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00:00Thanks Dr. Zakir Naik, you are a big help. I have one more question. I am a bit confused
00:05between the two verses in Quran. The first one is in Surah Baqarah 62, which says that
00:13if you believe in one God and believe in the last day and do good deeds, you shall have
00:19nothing to fear on the Day of Judgment and you will get your reward with your Lord. Mind
00:25it, in this Surah, it doesn't say that you have to believe in the Prophet Muhammad, peace
00:30be upon him, as the last messenger. And there is also another Surah which supports this,
00:35which is the 22, in chapter number 22 and verse number 17 I think, in which it says
00:40a similar thing, that those who do, who believe in one God, who believe in the last day and
00:44who do good deeds will be fine on the Day of Judgment. But then there is also one more
00:48verse in the Quran which says that whosoever amongst you comes to me without the religion
00:53of Islam, it shall not be accepted of him and he shall be among the losers. So, in that
00:59last verse, does Islam mean believing in one God and believing in Prophet Muhammad and
01:04believing in all the other rituals? Or, because Islam means submission, so whoever has submitted,
01:10yeah, is submitted. So, you know, what's the meaning of Islam in the last verse?
01:14That's a very good question. He's quoted the verse of the Quran of Surah Baqarah chapter
01:18two, verse number 62, that all those who believe in Allah and believe in the last day,
01:23irrespective of whether they are Jews or Christians or Sabians, they shall have no fear and inshallah
01:31they will have their reward. Similar thing is repeated in Surah Maida chapter number
01:35five. So, brother is asking that here the verse doesn't mention believing in Prophet.
01:41If you read the context of this revelation, brother, what happened, people came to the
01:44Prophet and said that we have been Jews, we have been Christians, we have been Sabians,
01:49can God forgive us? In that context, the reply was given, as long as you believe in Allah and
01:54the last day, irrespectively previously, whether you're a Christian or a Jew or a Sabian, you will
02:00get the reward. It does not mean today a person who says he's a Christian and who believes Jesus
02:05is God, he will go to Jannah. No, it does not mean that. Not Jesus is God, believes in one God.
02:10Believes in one God, but if they believe Jesus is God, then they won't go to Jannah.
02:13That is fine, but my point is, believes in one true God.
02:16Correct. So, he has to believe in one true God and if he believes in true God,
02:20he'll also follow the commandment of God. Simple.
02:22Yeah, but maybe he's confused with that. Yeah.
02:25So, that means he believes in a confused God.
02:26No, he believes in his creator, yeah, but he's not yet reached that level.
02:31So, then if you ask me the question, a person who truly believes in God and little bit confused
02:36from his heart and yet doesn't believe in Prophet Muhammad, will he go to heaven or hell?
02:40That's your question. My question is, he's clear that there is one God.
02:42Clear there's one God. He's confused in the Prophethood.
02:45He does not do idol worship. He does not do that.
02:47He believes in one God and does good deeds and believes in the last day.
02:50Can he go to Jannah is your question? Yes.
02:51Fine. This answer and I come to your last question also about that Islam is only way of life.
02:56Other verses talk about Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.
02:59Yeah. So, if you truly believe,
03:00you have to believe in Prophet Muhammad, but if you ask me no, suppose I believe in God and if I
03:04die today, yes, if you did good deeds, you believe in God.
03:09But I know I have two verses of the Quran supporting me that you believe in one God,
03:12you do good deeds and you believe in the last day.
03:14You shall have nothing to fear on that day.
03:16That's what I tell you. Yeah. Two verses.
03:18But the context of the verse is what? Yeah.
03:20The context of the verse is when people came to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
03:24and they wanted to accept Islam that previously we were Jews, we were Christians.
03:28Then the verses say the context is important.
03:31And coming back to your first question that Quran says in Surah Al-Imran chapter 3,
03:35verse number 19 in Nazina Indallah Al-Islam,
03:38the only religion acceptable in the sight of Allah is submitting our will to God.
03:42Submitting. Submitting your will to God.
03:44And Quran also says in Surah Al-Imran chapter 3, verse 85,
03:47if anyone desires any other religion besides Islam,
03:51it will never be acceptor of him and he shall be amongst the losers.
03:54Yes. So now submitting your will to God means first you have to find out which is the true God.
03:59Yes. And when you find out you have to come to Allah.
04:02Yes. You can't say I believe in true God but is Jesus.
04:05I believe in true God. No, I believe in Allah.
04:08So if you believe in Allah, you have to follow what is the commandment of Allah.
04:13Now when you believe in Allah and if you don't come to commandment of Allah,
04:17that means it is not the true Allah. I believe Allah is not created by anyone.
04:20He is not born of anyone. He doesn't have kids.
04:23He, you know. Correct.
04:24I believe in that. Yeah. But that's where my state is.
04:31That's right. Yeah. But now, now that's not complete Islam.
04:34That's part of Islam. Yeah. Part of Islam.
04:37Even believing in Prophet alone will not take you to Jannah.
04:40You may believe in one God, believe in Prophet but do bad deeds, you will not go to heaven.
04:44Fine? Yeah. So what you have to realize, if you believe that true God,
04:48when you know where you got those Kuluw Allah words, from where?
04:51From where you got these Kuluw Allah words? I got it from the Quran.
04:54From the Quran. Yes. So from the Quran, you also get Surah Muhammad.
04:59That, that part agrees with my brain. That part agrees with my brain.
05:02Yeah, the rest, I have questions. So… What question you have asked me, I will try and…
05:06Right. So on the Day of Judgment, I can tell you, I gave this brother,
05:09I tried to remove the misconception. Right. Okay, I'll take…
05:13Well, that's a little bit of a private question. I'll ask you through email.
05:15Okay, fine. No problem. One more question, the last question.
05:17So when you ask from email, when you get convinced,
05:19that time I'll ask you to believe in Prophet Muhammad also. Sure, sure.
05:22Fine? Yeah, my last question is, we see this, the style of the Kalima, yeah,
05:28that La ilaha illallah Muhammadur Rasulullah means there is no God but Allah
05:32and Muhammad is a messenger of God, yeah? Now Islam has this distinct style.
05:37I have not seen this style in Christianity or Judaism, that kind of Kalima.
05:41Do I don't know? I mean, was there the same kind of Kalima in those two religions as well?
05:45No. You know why? Yeah. Because it says there is no God but Allah.
05:49Yeah, it's similar, similar, similar in those lines. I'll tell you.
05:52And Prophet Muhammad is a messenger and servant.
05:55So no one should worship Prophet Muhammad, therefore it's mentioned there.
05:58Fine? Tomorrow people should not start worshipping Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.
06:01Yes, yes. We love him. We respect him. We revere him.
06:04We are ready to die for him, but we don't worship him. I understand.
06:07So maybe in Christianity, they could have something like there is only one God
06:10and Jesus, and Jesus peace be upon him. Christianity, Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
06:14No, but I'm talking about what Jesus told, not what Christians are telling today.
06:17At every time of the Prophet, it was la ilaha illallah, that time Isa and Rasulullah, no problem.
06:23It was that time? No, that is what people had to believe in.
06:26Not in Arabic, in the language they spoke.
06:28No, what I'm saying is from your study, have you found a Kalima like that in what Jesus would have said?
06:32No, not in Arabic. At every time, you had to believe in the Prophet to be a Muslim.
06:38Yeah. So at that time, you have to believe in one God
06:40and you had to believe Jesus was the Prophet of God.
06:42At the time of Moses, you had to believe that there is no God but Allah
06:46and Moses was the messenger of Allah. You had to believe in that.
06:48I understand, but did you see that reference?
06:50It is understood. There's no reference in the Quran.
06:52The Quran says they were messengers. It is understood.
06:55And if I don't believe in Jesus, now also I'm not a Muslim.
06:58Quran says you have to believe in each and every messenger today.
07:02So believing that time was a must.
07:04And today you have to believe in Musa a.s. and Isa a.s.
07:07You're asking the question, did you have to believe that time? Simple logic.
07:11I know you have to believe at that time as well.
07:13What I'm saying is, why don't I see any Kalima like that in today's Christianity or Judaism?
07:17Today's Christianity has changed Christianity.
07:19How about Judaism?
07:20It has changed, brother.
07:22So they removed the basic of the Kalima?
07:25Of course, of course. They have changed the messenger to God.
07:29It is mentioned in the Bible today also that Jesus is not God.
07:33He never claimed divinity. He's a messenger of God.
07:36That's what the teaching of the churches.
07:38Today's form is the changed form.
07:41How about Judaism? They still believe there is only one God.
07:43They don't regard Moses as God.
07:45So did you see a Kalima like there is only one God and Musa a.s.
07:49No, but they believe that Musa a.s. was a messenger of God.
07:52They believe in that.
07:53At the same time, they even believe that you are the imposter.
07:57Jesus Christ peace be upon him.
07:58So that's wrong.
07:59If you believe Jesus is an imposter, that is wrong.
08:02So you find some of the other mistakes here or there.
08:05Therefore Quran is the Furqan.
08:07Furqan means the criteria to judge right from wrong.
08:11So whatever matches with the Quran, we agree it is the word of God.
08:14What is against the Quran contradicts, we say is not the word of God.
08:17What doesn't contradict and doesn't match, ambiguous.
08:20Maybe right, maybe wrong.
08:21I understand your point, sir.
08:22What I'm saying is, did you see any reference in your study of Judaism?
08:25No.
08:25So even the Kalima is gone.
08:28I mean, they don't even have that.
08:29Maybe in Aramaic, maybe it will be in Aramaic.
08:31I don't know. I don't know of any such.
08:33Right, right, right.
08:34So they were still believing in this thing that you have to believe in Moses as messenger.
08:39Yes.
08:39But there is nothing concrete like la ilaha illallah or you know like.
08:42I don't know of any in the scripture.
08:44Right, right, okay, right.
08:46One of my last question is.
08:48Third last, fourth last.
08:49Just last.
08:50Last of the last.
08:51Just last.
08:51Last of the last.
08:52Last of the last, yes.
08:53Recently in India, it was in the news that same sex marriages got allowed.
08:58Yeah.
08:59And on reading upon it, yeah, I found out that they said
09:03that it is at the genetic level of people.
09:05Genetic, it's in the hormones, yeah, what they desire, what they don't desire.
09:09Now, I understand that Islam is completely against this.
09:12It doesn't allow this.
09:13But what I'm saying is if someone's got that at a genetic level, yeah, and it's his choice.
09:18Very good question.
09:18And he was born with that kind of tendency.
09:22And yet Islam chooses to punish him on something that he was born with.
09:28Agreed.
09:28So God should.
09:29It sounds illogical.
09:30Yeah, so God made him like that and God is punishing him for that as well.
09:34Brother asked a question that recently in India, homosexuality has been permitted.
09:41Not permitted, but the law says it's not a big crime that was there in the Indian Constitution.
09:46They have softened it.
09:47Not permitted yet.
09:48Yes.
09:48It is a court case that took place in Delhi.
09:50It's not a law yet.
09:50Yes.
09:51There's a who and cry yet.
09:52There are many organizations fighting against it.
09:54So no law.
09:54It's a law in Canada, in USA, in UK, not in India yet.
09:57Right, okay.
09:58And today, there are some scientific research that say that homosexuality is genetic.
10:05Yes, yes.
10:05So brother asked the question, if homosexuality is genetic, then who's to blame?
10:10How can you consider it to be a sin?
10:12Very good question.
10:12Yes.
10:13This research was done earlier, a few years back, and later on, what was found out?
10:18That this is totally false.
10:20And the person who propounded this himself was homosexual.
10:23Right, okay.
10:24So there's no scientific proof yet.
10:26It's an assumption.
10:27Right.
10:28Science doesn't testify yet that homosexuality is genetic.
10:31Right.
10:32In fact, Quran says in Surah Araf, chapter number 7, verse number 81, which says that,
10:37do you have lust for men more in preference to women?
10:41To homosexuality.
10:42Talking about Qaum-e-Lut.
10:44Yes.
10:44It is prohibited in the Bible, also talking about Lut, a.s.
10:46Yes.
10:47Also in the Quran, it is prohibited.
10:48Yes.
10:49Homosexuality is prohibited completely.
10:51Right.
10:51It is an assumption that it's genetic.
10:53It's not genetic at all.
10:54How does it happen?
10:56I'll tell you.
10:56Yeah.
10:56The psychology, they tell us that once you overdo a thing, you start losing the pleasure.
11:03Right.
11:03So what God has permitted the normal sexual way of life, you start overdoing it.
11:08You start doing unnatural things.
11:10Right.
11:11What God has permitted natural things, you do unnatural.
11:15You start doing from the reverse side.
11:16So once you get fed up of doing it so often, that's the reason scientific research says
11:21a person who has no extramarital affairs enjoys the sexual life with his wife and husband the maximum.
11:31Yeah, but this tendency is found in small children.
11:33I mean, you know.
11:34I'm telling you.
11:34Yeah.
11:35So, I mean, they have not got married yet.
11:38Let me complete.
11:38Yeah.
11:39We'll come to children later on.
11:40First, I'm talking about the adults.
11:41Yes.
11:45How it comes in children, I'll tell you in a bit.
11:47Okay.
11:49So what happens is that once you start overdoing it,
11:51you want to enjoy more.
11:53So that thing what is normal doesn't excite you any longer.
11:57Then you start doing unnatural things.
11:59It's not genetic.
12:00Talking about children, how it comes in children.
12:02It doesn't just come out from birth.
12:04It's not from birth because they watch pornographic movies.
12:08Right.
12:09They watch blue films.
12:10It's haram.
12:11The parents, the way they behave in front of the children, all this has a psychological impact on the child.
12:18Right.
12:18Don't tell a person who's born, then he starts becoming homosexual.
12:22It's not like that at all.
12:23It's a misconception.
12:24Right.
12:25Scientific research doesn't say that.
12:26Right, right, right.
12:27It is because of the overexposure.
12:29Now, children watch the blue films.
12:31Yeah.
12:32The channels.
12:33Free to air.
12:35You know, there are more pornographic channels than other channels.
12:38Yeah.
12:38Very good money.
12:39So because of the media, that's how when they see on the channel, they start emulating and that's how they divert.
12:47Who's to blame?
12:49Why didn't the parent allow them?
12:50Right, okay.
12:51So they will be responsible for that.
12:52Right, okay.
12:53Okay, that answers me.
12:54That's fine.
12:55One thing you said was that God has to be...
12:57Brother, last of the last question.
12:58Yeah, God has to be logical, you said, yeah?
13:00So why did he choose...
13:01Not God has to be logical.
13:02God is logical.
13:02God is logical.
13:03Okay, so why did he choose, taking into account Islam is a correct religion, why did he choose to bring you into this world in Islam and so many others in a different religion?
13:12So that means he's being partial from the birth.
13:15Very good.
13:15Very good question.
13:16Brother, the question that some people are born in Muslim family and a person born in Muslim family chances Muslim, born in non-Muslim family, non-Muslim.
13:27So why is God impartial?
13:29Maybe if you were born in a Muslim family, you would have been a Muslim, correct?
13:32Yes, yes.
13:33Very good question.
13:33That's how it usually goes.
13:34Very good question.
13:35The criteria to go to Jannah is not to be born in a Muslim family.
13:39Our beloved Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam said, every child is born in Deen-ul-Fitr.
13:43He's born as a Muslim.
13:44He submits his will to God.
13:45Later on, he's been influenced by his parents, by his elders, by his teachers.
13:50Then he starts doing idol worship, fire worship, he converts.
13:53Therefore, when a non-Muslim becomes a Muslim, the more appropriate word is revert rather than convert.
13:57He comes back to the original faith.
13:59Now, the criteria to go to Jannah is not to be born in a Muslim family.
14:03The criteria to go to Jannah is Surah Al-Asr, chapter number 103, verse number 1 to 3, which says,
14:15That by the token of time, man is very in a state of loss, except those who have faith, those who have righteous deeds,
14:21those who exhort people to truth, and those who exhort people to patience and perseverance.
14:25The criteria to go to Jannah is all four things.
14:27Iman, righteous deeds, exhorting people to truth, exhorting people to patience and perseverance.
14:31If a person is born in a Muslim family, the first criteria, the chances are more, not the remaining three.
14:37Fine? Now you, you may be born in a righteous family, but not having Iman. I don't know.
14:43Yeah, but I mean, why was he born in a Christian family or a Hindu family?
14:45You know, he should be born, I mean, it's more likely that he gets the other things easily.
14:49There are four things to go to Jannah.
14:51If a person is born in a Muslim family, but does not have righteous deeds, does not do dawah, he'll go to hell.
14:57Yeah, okay.
14:58He will not go to heaven.
15:00Only by having a name, Zakir, Muhammad, Abdullah, Sultan, will not take you to heaven.
15:07Even practice is important.
15:08You may be born in a family which has righteous deeds, but may not be having Iman.
15:13So everyone has different combinations.
15:15But Almighty God says in Surah Fusilat, chapter number 41, verse number 53,
15:21So we shall show them our signs in the furthest regions of the horizons and into their soul,
15:32until it is clear to them that this is the truth.
15:34So Allah takes it upon Himself that to every human being, He'll put in his heart directly that this is the truth.
15:41Like how God sent me to put it directly into your heart here.
15:44Correct? Now, now, wait, wait, wait.
15:47No, no, there are advantages and disadvantages.
15:49It's a big advantage.
15:50You got everything very easy.
15:51But for a person who's in a different religion, he doesn't even come to know about it.
15:55Brother, you got so easy.
15:56In three hours, you got it directly.
15:58Very easy.
15:59Right or wrong?
16:00You don't think it to be easy.
16:01See how you take it.
16:03I'm saying how lucky you are compared to the other non-Muslims.
16:06You attended my talk.
16:07Yes.
16:08Yet you're not accepting it.
16:09Who's to blame?
16:10You or God?
16:11Yes.
16:12You.
16:13Yeah, but there are things.
16:14Not me.
16:15There are a lot.
16:16Religion is a big thing.
16:17Not a big thing.
16:18You want to make it big, you make it big.
16:19You want to make it important, it is important.
16:21Yeah.
16:22The problem is that almighty God puts in every human being directly.
16:26Not always to Dr. Zakir Naik.
16:28Yeah.
16:29I'm only 0.00001%.
16:30Yeah.
16:31It's not me.
16:32Some through me, some through others, some directly.
16:34So on the day of judgment, you cannot complain to God.
16:37At least you cannot complain.
16:38You cannot go and tell God, I didn't know about Islam.
16:41Yeah, I cannot.
16:42You cannot.
16:43Yeah, I cannot.
16:44Because you know, you may be having more knowledge of Islam than many Muslims, more
16:47Muslim families.
16:48Yeah, I agree.
16:49Because the way you're quoting Quran, the way you're asking me questions, I'm sure.
16:53So now after reading so much about Islam, and yet if you don't accept, Allah will question
16:58you.
16:59You have no excuse whatsoever.
17:00The other non-Muslims will deal with them afterwards.
17:02Yeah.
17:03Let's talk about you first.
17:04Yes.
17:05You have no question at all.
17:06Yes.
17:07On the day of judgment.
17:08I have.
17:09I can say there were a few things which I was, I did not get the right answers to.
17:12No, there are many Muslims who are born in Muslim families, not few, have many questions
17:16which are not answered.
17:17Yes.
17:18You have few, they have many.
17:19So you're in a better position.
17:20You cannot complain to God.
17:21I would.
17:22You have few questions not answered.
17:23I would give God, I would give God that these are the basis, because they did not get answered,
17:28that's why I did not accept it.
17:29If I don't accept it, maybe I will later, I don't know.
17:31Which question you don't have, tell me now.
17:33Tell me now, come on.
17:35You can tell God.
17:36Dr. Zakir Naik asked you in front of 20, 30,000 people, what question you don't know about
17:40the Quran, come on.
17:41First of all, I, the answer that you gave, that it is because of media and blue films,
17:45I know, I know small, small kids who don't even have access to that and still they have
17:49those tendencies.
17:50Which kids?
17:51Name them.
17:52What nonsense you're talking.
17:53I'm a medical doctor.
17:54What do you know?
17:55Are you a medical doctor?
17:56I have seen it.
17:57Are you a medical doctor?
17:58Let me tell you.
17:59I have seen my…
18:00I'm asking, are you a medical doctor, yes or no?
18:01I'm not.
18:02I'm an engineer.
18:03Fine.
18:04I'm a medical doctor, fine?
18:05Okay.
18:06Now you are telling a doctor you have seen.
18:07If I tell you that I have seen a building made of paper, you know, come in Bombay, I have
18:10seen a building, the pillars were made of paper.
18:12Will you believe in it?
18:13I won't, I have not seen it.
18:14You are finished.
18:15See, this is the first Ahal-e-Zikri in Gundulat Talamud.
18:18As the person who knows.
18:19Now I have seen, you have seen, does it carry weight?
18:22Yeah.
18:23I have seen a building made of paper.
18:24Will you believe?
18:25No, but your point is that it's only because of media, but I know, I know…
18:29No point is, it is not genetic.
18:31There is no scientific proof at all it is genetic, I'm telling you.
18:34Right, right.
18:35What I'm telling you, it can be one of the reasons.
18:38Yeah.
18:39What is…
18:40There can be 20 other reasons.
18:41Right.
18:42One of the reasons can be media.
18:43Yeah.
18:44You tell me it can't be media, I'll disprove you.
18:45Right, right.
18:46One of the reasons can be media.
18:48Right.
18:49Fine?
18:50Yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:51Yeah, very good.
18:52Actually, I have to go through all the other questions.
18:53Very well, go through, but you can't.
18:54And I will need some time and then…
18:56Take your time.
18:57I will do it.
18:58But, but, hope it's not too late.
19:01I don't know how long I'm going to live.
19:02See, if I die in the state of getting more knowledge, yeah, then I can always tell God
19:06that I was just…
19:07No, no.
19:08I was just getting more and more knowledge.
19:09You cannot, you cannot.
19:10I'm telling you, you cannot, you cannot.
19:11I will give shahada on the day of judgment.
19:13I give you a chance.
19:14You cannot.
19:15See, I don't know if I'm going to live tomorrow or not.
19:16See, 90% of my questions are answered.
19:18Alhamdulillah.
19:19But I have to go through more things.
19:20People accept Islam with 10% acceptance.
19:22Saw that girl?
19:23According to me, you have more knowledge than all the people who accept Islam.
19:26Yeah, that's true.
19:27Maybe that's true.
19:28But my principle is, unless I'm 100% clear, I will not take such a big step.
19:32I will only take that big step if I'm 100% clear.
19:34Brother, many things you did in life without knowing 100%.
19:37Did you know how much you're going to earn in Dubai that you gave me 100%?
19:41See, that way I'm ready to say the thing.
19:43But the thing is, I've seen some Muslims who say that if you have an iota of doubt, then you're not a Muslim.
19:50Who said that? Who said that?
19:51They say if you have...
19:52Are you going to follow the Quran or are you going to say some Muslim?
19:55Forget about Muslims.
19:56You want to judge?
19:57You have to believe it 100% even if you have 99% faith.
20:00Who said that?
20:01Who said that?
20:02Does the Quran say that?
20:03It doesn't say that.
20:04You follow Quran, don't follow the other Muslims.
20:06Don't follow me also.
20:07Follow Quran.
20:08So if I tell you that I believe that Prophet Muhammad was a Prophet of God 90% and 10% I have doubts, am I a Muslim?
20:14No, do you believe in messenger or not a God?
20:18Other doubts are separate.
20:20I believe in one God and I believe in his messengers.
20:2290%
20:23I believe in his... Yes, 90%.
20:25Which 10% you don't believe? Tell me now, I'll clarify that.
20:28I can't recall those questions now.
20:29You can't recall?
20:30This is escapism.
20:32No, not really.
20:33I am not asking you to accept Islam.
20:37I am not asking you.
20:38I am only telling you.
20:39If God forbid something happens to you before you accept Islam, you will not be forgiven.
20:44I am only telling you an advice.
20:46I am not being prejudiced here.
20:48Take your time.
20:49Take your time.
20:50When you need me, you can call me on the email.
20:52Zakir at IRF.net.
20:53My pleasure to reply to you, brother.
20:54How do you spell IRF?
20:55IRF.net
20:58IRF.net
21:00It's a short form for Islamic Research Foundation.
21:02Right, okay.
21:03Yes, or you can watch me on Peace TV.
21:05Sure.
21:06Alright, okay.
21:07Thank you so much.
21:08See you next time.
21:09Inshallah.