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00:00Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf's Jalsa in Islamabad, which we have been hearing about for a long time
00:05and the leaders of Tariq-e-Insaf were saying with great enthusiasm that the Jalsa will take place
00:09but today we saw that the Jalsa did not take place.
00:12The Jalsa will take place, everyone will be there, no matter what the arrangements are.
00:17All these statements were given by the leaders of Tariq-e-Insaf.
00:20Please listen.
00:22On the 6th, Inshallah, there is going to be a big Jalsa in Islamabad for two reasons.
00:26One, Imran Khan's resignation.
00:28Second, inflation.
00:29Tomorrow, our Jalsa is taking place.
00:31We have to clear this confusion.
00:32All the brothers, as the plan had been told, should leave their areas with their people
00:37and Inshallah, reach the Jalsa Gah.
00:39Inshallah, there will be a complete Jalsa.
00:41Imam Sattar's court has given permission.
00:44And Islamabad's administration has a malefied intent.
00:48He knew that this is not a new thing.
00:50There are a few days left in the morrow.
00:52And there is no security issue because of which he is resigning.
00:56On this platform, I will announce that we will hold a Jalsa.
00:59Whether we can make a stage or not, whether we have lights or not,
01:02we will hold a Jalsa at any cost.
01:04We will arrest everyone.
01:05We will not back out.
01:06This is the beginning of the people's movement.
01:09And we will not let it end in any way.
01:12We will continue this and move forward.
01:15So, whether we get a permit for Jalsa or not, whether we get a stage or not,
01:19we will hold a Jalsa.
01:20And then, this morning, I saw that Minister Gaurav said that
01:23the political committee has contacted each other.
01:26We are postponing the Jalsa.
01:28And this will happen after Ashur.
01:30Today, in the political committee, we have made a unanimous decision.
01:34Because we have gone to the court.
01:36We got permission from the court.
01:38That is why, for the time being, we are postponing the Jalsa
01:42under the supervision of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
01:49What was the reason for postponing the Jalsa?
01:51Mr. Asad Qais said that Mr. Imran Khan himself said that
01:54if we do not get the NOC, the Jalsa will not take place.
01:57We are showing our patience because of our leader Imran Khan.
02:01He has said that you will not hold a Jalsa other than the NOC.
02:05We did not have any problem.
02:07Our KPK people have been mobilized.
02:10If we had brought them, no one would have stopped them.
02:14We have discussed this in the political committee.
02:16And we have made a unanimous decision.
02:18And we will take the advice of our leader, Mr. Banerjee,
02:22that if this time, they do not give the NOC,
02:26then we will not hold the Jalsa.
02:29Ms. Aleema Khan, who is Mr. Imran Khan's sister,
02:32tweeted that they will never get the NOC.
02:35Because they do not want people to come in such large numbers
02:38and register their protests.
02:40And this is against illegal imprisonment.
02:42Until we do not go out, there will be no protest,
02:44there will be no rally, so we should not expect
02:46that Mr. Imran Khan will come out of jail soon.
02:49So his sister has to say this.
02:51The government, of course, takes a very procedural defense.
02:55They said that this is an administrative matter.
02:57Because the police are busy, the area of Tarnol is not good.
03:00This is why the NOC was not issued.
03:03It is for the administration to decide.
03:06And it is an administrative matter.
03:08Especially during Muharram-ul-Haram,
03:10it will not be the first time that our arrangements are on high alert.
03:15I have heard their report,
03:17they said that the area of Tarnol is highly sensitive.
03:25Then I saw that the people of Dilbardaashta Tariq-e-Insaaf
03:28who were coming from all over the country with their caravans,
03:31Mr. Saddam Tareen was also disappointed.
03:33He also expressed his anger.
03:35Some caravans had left from KP.
03:37When they came here, they found out that the Jalsa was not taking place.
03:40So overall, in this situation,
03:42we will discuss the legal strategy of Tariq-e-Insaaf.
03:44Mr. Rauf Hassan is present in the program.
03:46Thank you very much for joining us, Mr. Rauf.
03:48It is a pleasure. Thank you.
03:49You said that whether we get the stage or not,
03:51whether we get the NOC or not, we will do the Jalsa.
03:53Ms. Aleema Khan is saying that you are not doing it.
03:55Without it, you will not come out.
03:57So, which political committee was it that decided
04:00and for what reasons was it decided?
04:03Thank you, Maria.
04:04As always, it is a pleasure.
04:06Look, there are a lot of issues on the site of Tarnol.
04:10We did not ask for the site of Tarnol.
04:12When we applied, we gave them an option in F9 Park
04:15and in the middle of the parade ground.
04:18We got Tarnol on the recommendation of the district administration.
04:22We had many reservations about it.
04:24It is actually not a site.
04:25There is an enclave in the middle of a residential area
04:27in which they said that it should be done.
04:29As it is, it was very small.
04:30And on the site, there were unfinished buildings
04:33from where the snipers could operate very easily.
04:36Despite that, since we wanted to do the Jalsa,
04:38we accepted it.
04:40And this NOC, as you know,
04:42we got it on the instructions of the court.
04:45Because the district administration has been denying us
04:48for the last 3-4 months that no Jalsa is being allowed anywhere.
04:51All our cases are in the courts.
04:53So, the day before yesterday, when they gave us the NOC final,
04:56we started working on it.
04:58And till yesterday evening, virtually 90% of the work was done.
05:01I went there myself.
05:02I stayed there for an hour.
05:03I saw the whole stage and everything.
05:05And then, all of a sudden,
05:07in the late evening, they said that we have done it.
05:10And immediately, the police came and took over the site.
05:13After that, we had a meeting in the late night
05:15which was made by the Jalsa Committee.
05:18And that meeting lasted for about 2 hours.
05:20In that, we discussed the pros and cons.
05:22There were two opinions.
05:23One was what you are saying,
05:25what Aleema Bibi has also said,
05:27that Jalsa should be held in all circumstances.
05:29And one was that since we have come through the court,
05:33and because of the court, we have got this permission,
05:35so it is better that we go back to the court.
05:37So, we decided last night
05:39that in the morning, our legal team will go to the court
05:42and will move their contempt of court.
05:45And will try to get it done today itself
05:47and the decision will be made today itself.
05:49And we penned this decision, the final decision, till the morning.
05:53So, our team went to Islamabad High Court at 9 in the morning
05:56with many MNAs.
05:58And they received it.
06:00They got the diary number too.
06:02But when we went to the judge on duty,
06:05he said that if Chief Justice of the High Court marks me,
06:08then I can hear it today.
06:10Otherwise, I can hear it on Monday itself.
06:13I don't have the powers to hear your petition on that day.
06:16So, this was postponed.
06:18That is, we did not get the judgment today.
06:21After that, our meeting today,
06:23in the afternoon of the Political Committee at 11 o'clock.
06:25These two opinions were present in that too, till that time.
06:27But most of the people opined that
06:30since this has happened through the court,
06:32and we want, this was an important thing,
06:34that these people who have violated the court's orders,
06:37who have condemned,
06:39they should be held accountable.
06:41That is why we are waiting.
06:43Sir, I have listened to your entire conversation.
06:45Your political, whatever it is,
06:47there are two aspects to it.
06:48One is political and the other is legal.
06:50You are telling me your legal strategy
06:52that we will go to the court and do this.
06:54What is your political strategy?
06:56This is what I am objecting to.
06:58I don't understand your political strategy.
07:00This is a legal strategy,
07:02that we will get them condemned.
07:04Politically, the government did not allow you to have a meeting today.
07:07What is the political answer to this?
07:09Our political strategy has been there for a long time.
07:11And now we have firmed it up more.
07:13That the government will not allow us to have a meeting.
07:17They will not allow our political movement to start.
07:20Consequently, this is the last time we are going by the court.
07:23Otherwise, wherever we want to have a meeting, we will do it.
07:27Sir, you have given a final ultimatum.
07:29Yes, we will fulfill the modalities.
07:33We will apply for everything.
07:35Whether we get permission or not,
07:37we will have a meeting wherever we want to.
07:39But you are in an alliance with Mr. Achak Zahid.
07:41The meeting was being held on his platform.
07:43So, is this your solo decision?
07:45This is a PTI decision.
07:47I think they will not disagree.
07:49But even if they disagree,
07:52we have our own platform.
07:54Sir, things are not assumed in an alliance.
07:56They are communicated.
07:58You were taking such a big decision.
08:00You communicated with Mr. Achak Zahid.
08:02Did he know or did he know from TV?
08:04No, we were communicating with him.
08:06We communicate with everyone.
08:08Did he advise you to cancel the Jalsa?
08:10What was his advice?
08:12This was a PTI decision.
08:14Since we had moved the Jalsa,
08:16this was a PTI decision.
08:18It was of the political committee.
08:21On that basis, we decided to hold the Jalsa
08:23immediately after Ashura.
08:25Did you inform Mr. Achak Zahid?
08:27Yes, it was a must.
08:29Did he say that your decision was his decision?
08:31I did not communicate with him after that.
08:33This is a delicate matter.
08:35In an alliance, all stakeholders
08:37have to work together.