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00:00Imran Khan can postpone it, but no one else can.
00:03We saw that his wife came and gave a video statement and said that this date cannot be returned.
00:10So, it seems that this time he will come to the front foot and be a little active politically as well.
00:19Is his wife going to lead this rally, this movement, this movement, Mr. Rahul?
00:26I have two questions for you. First, Mr. Khan showed a lot of flexibility.
00:31When Mr. Ali Ameen and Mr. Gohar told him that these discussions have started,
00:35he said, okay, you can talk to them. And he had set a deadline of 21st.
00:40This is now 21st, which was two days ago. It has passed. He said that whatever has to be done by 21st, do it.
00:46And there was some progress by 21st, but perhaps there was no substantive progress.
00:51One or two small issues were stalled. So, it could not move forward.
00:55That is why he reiterated that the protest of 21st will move forward. He will move it forward.
01:01Secondly, you have found out about Bushra Bibi.
01:03See, yesterday, Mr. Khan gave a statement again that no member of his family, including his wife, has any political role.
01:12And we have reiterated it again and again that she has no political role. She is not leading this movement.
01:17That is why we were surprised, Mr. Rahul, when that video came, because your party had a consistent position that she does not have a political role.
01:23She was playing her role behind the scenes. She was giving messages to the party.
01:28So, what was the need to come forward? I want to know this because she is apolitical according to your party.
01:33She had to give a message to Mr. Khan. According to her, she has given a message.
01:38But I will not consider this in the context of a political role.
01:41This was a statement that she had to convey. It was a message that she conveyed.
01:45Her sisters are also messaging. Her sisters are also giving statements.
01:48They come out and talk. Their political role is that they are present in every rally and protest.
01:55So, for both, the policy is the same that sisters cannot do political work, nor can wives.
02:00But there is a difference between the two. Sisters come to the forefront. Why is there a difference?
02:05See, I discussed this distinction yesterday as well.
02:10See, they do not have a political role. But as a wife and as a sister, it is their responsibility and their duty
02:18that they play a role for the freedom of their brother and husband.
02:23And in the history of this country, you know, Nusrat Butto Sahiba has played a role.
02:27In addition, Mrs. Nawaz Sharif has played a role. And there are other people like Benazir, etc.
02:33All these people have played a role. But they also played a political role.
02:37But the distinction here is that neither Begum Sahiba nor her sisters have a political role.
02:42But Rao sir, most probably, in all probability, tomorrow we will see her sisters in any protest.
02:48Will we see Bushra Sahiba too? Somewhere, in some form, physically protesting?
02:53No, the sisters have traditionally come. They have come to every protest.
02:57So, I can see them participating in the protest. But I am not seeing Bushra Sahiba participating in the protest today.
03:03Right. Somewhere, there is also guidance from Mr. Khan that he should not participate. Is this right?
03:08Yes, yesterday he gave a statement that my wife or my sisters have no political role.
03:13He has repeatedly given this statement.
03:15But unfortunately, it is visible that it is the sister's and the wife's conspiracy.
03:18They do not want to come forward. Okay.
03:20Is it true that the video that came out is being claimed from different sources
03:25that it is not the party's policy, it is their personal statement and the party does not associate with them?
03:32Is this correct? Can you confirm this?
03:35No, I mean, it was not the party's clearance in that statement.
03:39So, you can deduce the result from that.
03:42But it was a statement. He said that he wanted to deliver a message from Mr. Khan.
03:46And he gave that statement as a message from Mr. Khan.
03:49So, apart from him, no one else in the party had watched it?
03:53As it is, was it edited? Was it recorded and uploaded?
04:00It was not done according to my information.
04:02I am talking about my information. It was not done according to that.
04:06Okay, fine. But it has still been tweeted from different accounts of Tehreek-e-Insaf and it is still there.
04:11After that, there was a backlash. Now you call it a political backlash, whatever you call it.
04:15Do you think that the party benefited more from this message?
04:19Or would it have been different if this statement had not been made?
04:24I don't want to get into this debate.
04:26But the way it has been misinterpreted, it was a very shameful thing.
04:30It shouldn't have happened.
04:31Because Saudi Arabia's name was not mentioned in it at all.
04:34And it was about some other people.
04:37What was told to them, what was told to Mr. Khan, he just repeated it.
04:41Excuse me.
04:44Yes.
04:45That is why, as a secretary, I informed you.
04:47Because PTI's communication strategy is more vigilant than other parties.
04:53There is a vetting process and the way the message is spread.
04:57In that context, I was asking you a question about this video.
05:01Is it possible that your current protest can be converted into a Jalsa?
05:08The government has offered you for this.
05:10This is Mr. Khawaja's statement.
05:11He says that there is no harm in holding a Jalsa.
05:14Come and hold a Jalsa.
05:15And then you can go.
05:17Look, our date is starting on 24th.
05:21For this, there are many options on the table.
05:24And they are being discussed on a daily basis.
05:27And as time goes by, keeping the situation in view, those options will be exercised.
05:33We will do multiple things.
05:37Multiple events.
05:39We will adopt the methods of political protest.
05:45One may be different from the other.
05:48One may be different from the other.
05:49But we are keeping our options open.
05:51This date is starting on 24th.
05:53If you read the message that has been released by PTI.
05:56This morning, after the meeting of our political committee last night.
06:00This date is starting on 24th.
06:03And it will continue until our targets are achieved.
06:07So, it's not a one-day event.
06:09It is not being seen as a one-day event.
06:12What is the scale of success?
06:14Obviously, governments do not give up on such initiatives.
06:19So, what is the scale of success?
06:22What is your goal?
06:24At least we should achieve this.
06:26There are two scales.
06:27One scale is to meet our demands.
06:32You have said it in the beginning.
06:34You have said it during the discussion that it may not be possible.
06:38The second scale is to start serious negotiations.
06:44And if we can get a CBM in this regard.
06:47Then it will be very profitable.
06:50Then we can move forward.
06:52But this option.
06:54Let me tell you very clearly.
06:56This movement will not be bought.
06:59In any case.
07:00Even if negotiations start.
07:02It will not be bought.
07:03It will go on hold.
07:05It will not be bought.
07:07It will go on hold.
07:09But as a result of negotiations.
07:11There are CBMs on both sides.
07:12If you give face saving to the government.
07:15This is what happens mutually.
07:17You have all taken a maximum position politically.
07:20The government too.
07:21You too.
07:22They say they will not leave.
07:23You will say we will not leave.
07:24So, you have to find a way out of it.
07:26You can call off the negotiations face savingly.
07:30But the government more or less wants.
07:32That you accept this system and let it run.
07:35Even if Mr. Khan comes out.
07:37So, what do you have to give?
07:38Immediately.
07:39Apart from calling off the negotiations.
07:41What has this system given to the state of Pakistan?
07:44In the last 76 years.
07:45In addition to corruption.
07:46In addition to deprivation.
07:47In addition to hunger and poverty.
07:50What has this system given?
07:51Which we want to fight for this system.
07:53If some changes are brought in the system.
07:56It can be made people specific.
07:58It can be made state specific.
08:00What is wrong in that?
08:01They can sit.
08:02This cannot be done overnight.
08:04This is not a one-day job.
08:06This work should start.
08:07And in that regard, a consensus will be needed.
08:10The freedom fighters of the country.
08:11Have to sit down and talk.
08:12Have to move forward.
08:13Okay.
08:14What you are talking about.
08:15The thing to move forward.
08:16This is absolutely right.
08:17I have an agreement with this.
08:18I also talked about this at the beginning.
08:19Now let's come to the issue of Pada Chenar.
08:20Because the kind of state response.
08:22I have a lot of personal problems.
08:24The government should have called a meeting.
08:27All stakeholders should have been seated.
08:29They should have called the minister.
08:31The minister should have chaired him.
08:33This did not happen unfortunately.
08:35Because there is a lot of tension in the department.
08:38But the minister has not yet gone to Pada Chenar.
08:41He did not participate in the funerals.
08:43The kind of sense of urgency.
08:45On this issue.
08:46From the CM of that department.
08:48We did not see it symbolically.
08:51We did not see it in our people.
08:53It's been 48 hours today.
08:55In fact, the situation after that is also out of control.
08:58The CM has made a group of senior members of his cabinet.
09:04He has made a delegation and sent it to Pada Chenar.
09:06Which is currently negotiating.
09:09And I hope that soon.
09:11Why is the CM not leading?
09:13This is my problem.
09:14Because if there are about 100 people going there.
09:16Then why is the CM not leading?
09:18Why is he more focused on Islamabad?
09:20This is fine.
09:21You have a grievance.
09:22But there is also a matter of morning's governance.
09:25There is no focus.
09:26There is more focus in Islamabad.
09:28The CM is directly involved in this whole negotiation process.
09:33He is not only physically present.
09:34But that does not mean that he is not involved.
09:36His people are on ground and there.
09:38And there he is talking to all the people of Akhtab-e-Figar.
09:42And I am sure that soon you will hear.
09:45A peaceful solution to this problem.
09:47A good solution has been found.
09:51This is not today's problem.
09:52You know this is a very old problem.
09:54Unfortunately, like many other problems.
09:56This problem has never been tried to solve.
10:00But I hope that now.
10:02This problem can be effectively solved by our government.
10:06Sir, how will the people of Pada Chenar feel.
10:08That their CM is leading a movement in Islamabad.
10:11But could not come to them.
10:13Hypothetically speaking.
10:15The people of Pada Chenar are also supporting our movement.
10:19This is a sectarian crisis.
10:21You know what the reasons are.
10:24We are fully involved in this.
10:28And we are trying to end this matter on time.
10:33And then sit down and look for a long-term solution.
10:36This problem will not be solved in a day or two.
10:38It takes time.
10:39But I assure you.
10:41The people of Pada Chenar are also supporting our movement.
10:44And they will also support this movement.
10:48Thank you very much, Mr. Raufasan.
10:49I wish I could agree with you.
10:52Where there is an existential crisis.
10:53Your house, your property, your life.
10:55If it is a matter of wealth.
10:57At that time, will anyone prefer such a political movement.