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00:00This programme contains strong language and adult humour.
00:05APPLAUSE
00:31Good afternoon and welcome to the Countdown Studio.
00:34On the very day that 160 years ago,
00:37the wonderful Hallé Orchestra performed for the first time
00:41at the Free Trade Hall here in Manchester.
00:43It had, in fact, been formed the year before by Charles Hallé,
00:46but it was on 30th January 1858 that the first concert was performed.
00:53Now recognised as one of Britain's great bands,
00:56the second oldest, in fact, because apparently the Royal Philharmonic
01:00is just slightly older, but it's a great orchestra
01:05playing down the road at the Bridgewater Hall.
01:09I began to think, well, where have I been recently for classical music?
01:12And it's actually... I do love classical music,
01:15and I love the cinema too. I never get to either, it seems.
01:18But last year, last July, I was taken as a guest to a concert hall.
01:23I was on holiday as guest in France,
01:25and we went to a wonderful concert at Aix-en-Provence.
01:29They've got a fantastic hall there.
01:31And onto the stage, Rachel, strode a 27-year-old nipper
01:38called Duncan Ward. He's an Englishman.
01:41And we were transfixed, the four of us,
01:45the four of us were transfixed by the way that he related to the orchestra.
01:49It was just a great joy.
01:51Helped by the fact that we were in the second row,
01:53so we could sort of see what he was doing
01:55and how he was smiling and encouraging the orchestra.
01:58Just a brilliant, brilliant thing.
02:00And he conducted Schubert and Stravinsky and Beethoven's Fourth,
02:04and we left all in love with this young man who is English,
02:08and that's the great thing about it.
02:10And he was picked up by Simon Rattle
02:12when Rattle was at the Berlin Philharmonic.
02:14And it's wonderful to see somebody
02:17who's just going to be a world-famous conductor
02:21in the not-too-distant future.
02:23So any chance, I know that he's just finished conducting in Bremen,
02:26and I think in a couple of weeks' time he's in Dublin,
02:28so any Irish listeners, get down to the RTE National Concert
02:33and witness Duncan Ward. He's fantastic. Fantastic.
02:38Do you go to the concerts much, or are you like me, too busy and whatever?
02:43I went to the BBC Proms for the first time last year.
02:45No, I don't get too often. We did go to Versailles, though, over the summer,
02:48and they actually have, in the Hall of Mirrors,
02:51they have people dressed up in the kind of Baroque clothing
02:54playing classical music in the right setting.
02:56Yeah, good fun. Lovely, lovely.
02:58Great. Now, let's see what happens today
03:01with our contestant, Chris Thorne, Rachel,
03:03who's got seven under his belt.
03:05Well done. You've played brilliantly.
03:08Now, you're joined by Ryan Peterana,
03:10a journalism and politics student at Stirling,
03:13originally from the Isle of South Uist.
03:16Tell us a little bit about that.
03:18It rings a lot of bells, but I've never been there,
03:20and I'm not altogether sure where it is.
03:22Well, it's a kind of remote area in the north-west of Scotland,
03:26around about where Mull and Iona and all these islands are,
03:32but a bit further to the north.
03:34So you find islands like Lewis and Harris, which are famous for the Tweed,
03:38and further down, the South Uist, the bit I'm from,
03:42which is famous for rocket rangers and otters crossing the road, apparently.
03:47Special place, I guess.
03:48Yeah, it's very special to me.
03:50I bet it is. All right. Well, this is a special place,
03:52and we wish you both great good fortune today.
03:55Big round of applause for Ryan and Chris.
04:03And over in the corner, Susie, of course,
04:05and a big welcome back to historian, writer, broadcaster,
04:09Susanna Lipscomb. Welcome back, Susanna.
04:11Thank you.
04:15Now, Chris Thorne, off we go.
04:18Afternoon, Rachel. Afternoon, Chris. Start the consonant, please.
04:20Thank you. Start today with D.
04:23And another.
04:25V.
04:26And another.
04:28R.
04:29One more.
04:31M.
04:33Vowel.
04:35U.
04:36Another.
04:38E.
04:39Another.
04:41I.
04:43One more.
04:45E.
04:47Consonant, please.
04:48And lastly, G.
04:50And here comes the Countdown Clock.
05:10CLOCK TICKS
05:23Yes, Chris?
05:24Seven.
05:25Ryan?
05:26Six.
05:27And that six?
05:28Verged.
05:29Now, then.
05:30Grieved.
05:31Grieved.
05:32Yeah. Excellent.
05:33Good word.
05:34Now, in the corner, Susanna and Susie.
05:36Well, we had grieved as well.
05:38Grieved as well, Nick.
05:39Demerge.
05:40D-E-M-I-U-R-G-E.
05:42A person responsible for the creation of the universe.
05:45And in the philosophy of Plato, it was the maker or creator of the world.
05:49Well, well, well.
05:51So, Chris on seven.
05:52Ryan yet to score.
05:54Now's your chance. Ryan?
05:56Good afternoon, Rachel.
05:57Afternoon, Ryan.
05:58Consonant, please.
05:59Thank you. Start with M.
06:01A consonant.
06:03S.
06:05Consonant.
06:07P.
06:08Vowel.
06:10I.
06:12Vowel.
06:13A.
06:15Vowel.
06:17E.
06:19Consonant.
06:21W.
06:22Consonant.
06:24R.
06:26And a consonant, please.
06:27And lastly, V.
06:29Stand by.
06:37CLOCK TICKS
07:02Yes, Ryan?
07:03Six.
07:04A six and...?
07:05Eight.
07:06And an eight. Right, Ryan?
07:08Praise.
07:09Thank you. Vampires?
07:11Excellent. Very good.
07:12Vampires.
07:13APPLAUSE
07:16Vampires. Now, Susanna, Susie?
07:19That's what we got as well.
07:20That's it?
07:21Vampires, yes.
07:22Delicious.
07:23All right, 15 points now.
07:25Chris, your numbers game.
07:27A six small, please, Rachel.
07:28You can indeed. Thank you very much, Chris.
07:30Six little ones to kick us off.
07:32And the first one of the day is...
07:34Two.
07:35Three.
07:36One.
07:37Three.
07:38Seven.
07:40And ten.
07:41And the target...
07:43940.
07:45940.
08:05CLOCK TICKS
08:18Yes, Chris?
08:19Nothing.
08:20Ryan?
08:21No, too far away.
08:22Rachel, is that really, truly tricky?
08:24I can get you to five away, but that's impossible.
08:27Impossible.
08:28Too many little numbers.
08:29Well done, Rachel. All right, five away will do.
08:3115 points to Chris.
08:32And with those scores, we turn to our first Tea Time teaser,
08:35which is As Erected.
08:37And the clue...
08:38As soon as the monument was erected,
08:40people would come and disrespect it.
08:42As soon as the monument was erected,
08:45people would come and disrespect it.
08:55APPLAUSE
08:58APPLAUSE
09:00Welcome back, welcome back. I left with the clue...
09:03As soon as the monument was erected,
09:05people would come and disrespect it.
09:08They would, in fact, desecrate it.
09:11Desecrate.
09:13Now, Ryan, your letters again.
09:15Consonant, please, Rachel.
09:17Thank you, Ryan. N.
09:19And another.
09:21N.
09:23And another.
09:25N.
09:27Vowel.
09:29U.
09:31Vowel.
09:32A.
09:34A vowel.
09:36O.
09:38Another vowel.
09:40U.
09:42Consonant.
09:43D.
09:45And another consonant, please.
09:47And lastly, T.
09:49Stand by.
09:55CLOCK TICKS
10:21Yes, Ryan?
10:22Six.
10:23Six now, then.
10:24Yeah, six for six.
10:26Ryan?
10:27Amount.
10:28And?
10:29Amount.
10:30The same amount. Susanna?
10:32Yes, and we've got outman, a six,
10:35or unmount, for seven.
10:37Yes.
10:38Unmount or dismount?
10:40Not the same as dismounting from a horse.
10:42This is to remove something from a mount.
10:45So it's more dismantling than getting off a horse.
10:48Oh, I see. Yeah.
10:49OK, thank you.
10:50Ryan plays six, and Chris, your letters game.
10:53Consonant, please.
10:54Thank you, Chris. S.
10:56And another.
10:58D.
10:59One more.
11:01T.
11:02Vowel.
11:04I.
11:05And another.
11:07O.
11:09One more.
11:11A.
11:13Consonant.
11:14N.
11:16Consonant.
11:18D.
11:20And a final consonant, please.
11:23And a final B.
11:25Stand by.
11:49MUSIC STOPS
11:57Yes, Chris?
11:58Seven.
11:59Ryan?
12:00Seven.
12:01And?
12:02Bastion.
12:03Ryan.
12:05Ah, we're in a groove here.
12:07Susanna?
12:08Yes, we liked Bastion as well.
12:10And banditos.
12:11Bandits.
12:12Bandits, yeah.
12:13Yes.
12:14Mexican bandits specifically, especially in films and popular culture.
12:1728 pays 13.
12:19Ryan, try this numbers game.
12:22Can I have one from the top row and five from the bottom row, please?
12:25You can indeed. Thank you, Ryan.
12:27One large and five little.
12:29And for the second time today,
12:31your numbers are one, nine, four, six, six,
12:36and the large one, 75.
12:38And this target, 290.
12:41290.
12:47MUSIC STOPS
13:13Ryan?
13:14290.
13:15And?
13:16Yes, 290.
13:17Ryan?
13:1875 times four is 300.
13:21Yep.
13:22And take away the nine and the one.
13:24Lovely, 290.
13:25Same way?
13:26APPLAUSE
13:27Yeah.
13:28Well done.
13:32Well done. All right.
13:33So, 38 to 23 sees Chris still in the lead,
13:37but Ryan's there, well in touch,
13:40as we turn to Susanna now.
13:42Teach us something interesting.
13:44Susanna.
13:45I thought I'd talk to you about witches.
13:47In Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code,
13:49he says that the church burnt at the stake
13:52an astounding five million women,
13:54and it indeed would be astounding if it were true.
13:56But it's wrong on several counts.
13:58For a start, the numbers.
14:00So, in the 16th and 17th century,
14:02somewhere around 90,000 people were prosecuted for witchcraft
14:06and around half of them, 45,000, were executed,
14:09and they weren't all women.
14:11And then there's the idea that it's the church,
14:13and the actually astonishing thing is that witchcraft was a crime,
14:17and it was a crime under law,
14:19so it was normally prosecuted by secular courts.
14:22And so, in an Act of Parliament in 1542,
14:26it became a capital offence to commit black magic.
14:30And then there's the idea that people were burnt at the stake,
14:34and people often think they were burnt alive.
14:36In Scotland, actually, witches were burnt,
14:38but after being strangled or grotted.
14:40So, hundreds of years ago this month, in January 1618,
14:43a woman called Margaret Barkley
14:45was executed by strangling and burning in Scotland.
14:48But in England, witches were hanged.
14:51And in New England, in Salem as well.
14:54And then finally, that whole chestnut about witches being ducked on stools,
14:59that was the punishment for scolds.
15:01Women got quite a rough deal this time.
15:03But witches could be put to the swimming ordeal,
15:06so that was when they were stripped and tied with ropes,
15:09and sunk in a river or a pond.
15:11And if they were innocent, they would sink,
15:13although, contrary to popular opinion,
15:15they generally weren't allowed to drown.
15:17But if they were guilty, they were thought to float
15:19because the waters rejected them.
15:21And in fact, the King of Scotland, James VI,
15:24later King of England, recommended this as a trial for witches
15:27in his book Demonology,
15:29in which he tried to prove the reality of witches and fairies and werewolves.
15:34So, the only book written about witchcraft by a reigning monarch that I know of.
15:38Well, well, well.
15:44When would he have written that, I wonder?
15:46It was published in 1597.
15:48But when he became King of England,
15:50it was republished many times in England as well.
15:53And there were presumably tests to prove that you're a witch or not.
15:57Yes, and the swimming one was the chief one he used
16:00because, of course, the problem with witchcraft is it's a hidden crime
16:03and the devil conceals it, he said.
16:05It's even harder to find out, so you've got to find these ways of testing.
16:08Well, thank you very much. I feel quite breathless after all that.
16:1138 plays 23. Chris on 38.
16:13Now then, Chris, letters game.
16:15Consonant, please. Thank you, Chris.
16:17L And another.
16:20S One more.
16:23R Vowel.
16:26O And another.
16:28A And another.
16:32E
16:34F
16:36S
16:38Consonant.
16:40T
16:42And a final consonant, please.
16:44And a final G.
16:46Stand by.
17:04B
17:16Yes, Chris?
17:18Eight.
17:20Ryan? Eight.
17:22Now then.
17:24Glotas. And Ryan?
17:26Same word.
17:30Well done. Ryan's certainly in the groove now.
17:33We didn't have anything to beat them.
17:35Glotas is the best, but large S you could spell with two S's.
17:39Yes, you can leave the second E off if you want to. That will give you a seven.
17:42Thank you.
17:44Now, Ryan.
17:46Start with a vowel, please. Thank you, Ryan.
17:48A And another.
17:51I And another.
17:54E A consonant, please.
17:57W And another.
18:00N And another.
18:03H
18:05And another.
18:07X
18:09And another.
18:12L
18:14And another consonant, please.
18:16And lastly, S.
18:18Go, go.
18:33B
18:51Ryan? Six.
18:53Chris? Seven.
18:55So, Ryan? Wales.
18:57Now, Chris. Inhales.
18:59Very good. Well done.
19:01Susie and Susannah?
19:03Yes, we've matched them on with that. Inhales.
19:05And also, surely.
19:07Yes. Surely.
19:09Surely, yes. Slightly different spelling.
19:11Yes, as in wearing a shawl.
19:13Yeah. Poor working-class women
19:15traditionally depicted as wearing a shawl.
19:18Scottish, Irish and Northern English.
19:20It's quite old, that one.
19:22Is that a sort of symbol of poverty, is it, the shawl?
19:24Shawls, yes, definitely, in London.
19:26Really? Quite a few words around that.
19:28The whole sort of Billingsgate women idea.
19:30They're hugely fashionable and very expensive.
19:32Kashminas.
19:34Yeah, well, they are on Bond Street.
19:3653 to 31. Chris on 53.
19:38Chris, numbers again.
19:40Try a better selection of six more, please.
19:42Try for a possible one this time. Thank you, Chris.
19:44Right, this time we have six,
19:46three, nine,
19:48another six,
19:50one and three
19:52and the target,
19:54945.
19:56945.
20:00MUSIC PLAYS
20:26Chris?
20:28I've got 945.
20:30And Ryan? Nowhere near, sorry.
20:32Chris, we rely on you.
20:34Six times three is 18.
20:36Yep. Times by six...
20:38Times by six is...
20:40108.
20:42Minus the other three. Yep.
20:44105. And then times by nine.
20:46Perfect. Well done. 945.
20:48Well done.
20:50Well done, Chris. Well done.
20:5263 plays 31 as we turn to our second tea time teaser,
20:56which is Lived City.
20:58And the clue, he lived in the city
21:00at the bottom of a very big hill.
21:02He lived in the city
21:04at the bottom of a very big hill.
21:06MUSIC PLAYS
21:14CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
21:22Welcome back. I left with the clue,
21:24he lived in the city at the bottom of a very big hill.
21:26And the answer to that one,
21:28Susie Dent,
21:30is declivity.
21:32Declivity? Decline?
21:34It's a literary term, a formal term, yes.
21:36A downward slope. Yeah.
21:38It has the same D-E, meaning down,
21:40as decline,
21:42but decline is from plenare to bend
21:44and this is from clivus, which is a slope.
21:46Thank you very much. 63 to 31.
21:48Chris on 63. Ryan, your letters game.
21:50Consonant, please, Rachel.
21:52Thank you, Ryan. R.
21:54Vowel.
21:56I.
21:58Consonant.
22:00T.
22:02Vowel.
22:04E.
22:06Consonant.
22:08J.
22:10Vowel.
22:12I.
22:14Consonant.
22:16T.
22:18Consonant.
22:20Another consonant, please.
22:22And lastly, M.
22:24Stand by.
22:50MUSIC STOPS
22:56Ryan. Six.
22:58Chris?
23:00Six.
23:02Now, then. Jitter.
23:04Jitter and permit.
23:06And permit
23:08or permage? Doesn't matter.
23:10Turns out it's a noun or a verb. Yeah.
23:12Susanna? That's what we've got as well,
23:14I'm afraid. We haven't beaten you.
23:16No. Pitier for six
23:18and couldn't have it with a double T.
23:20But that was it. Six was the best. Thank you.
23:22Well done. Now, Chris.
23:24Letters game. Consonant, please.
23:26Thank you, Chris. H.
23:28And another.
23:30R. One more.
23:32P.
23:34Vowel.
23:36A. And another.
23:38E.
23:40One more.
23:42A.
23:44Consonant.
23:46And another.
23:48R.
23:50And a final consonant, please.
23:52And a final G.
23:54Stand by.
23:56MUSIC PLAYS
24:16MUSIC STOPS
24:26Yes, Chris? Six.
24:28Ryan? Six.
24:30Chris? Harped.
24:32No. Say it again. Harped.
24:34Well done. And in the corner?
24:36Parader.
24:38Yes, drapery.
24:40Couple of sevens.
24:42That's it? Yes. It'll do.
24:44Thank you very much.
24:4675-43. Chris on 75.
24:48And it's Susie we now turn to
24:50for her wonderful origins of words.
24:52And today, Susie?
24:54Well, I thought I'd talk a little bit
24:56in the next few shows about irregularities
24:58of English, because
25:00even native speakers know
25:02just how thorny and tricky
25:04English spelling is, pronunciation,
25:06plurals. There are just so many things
25:08for us to learn, and
25:10always pity children, except
25:12that's what makes English what
25:14it is, because it is the result of this vast
25:16melting pot of different influences that have come
25:18to bear over the course of various
25:20centuries. And one
25:22thing, one plural that often comes up,
25:24believe it or not, is that of
25:26octopus. What
25:28is the correct plural of octopus? And in
25:30many ways, this small story illustrates
25:32just how difficult English
25:34is to learn. So what do you
25:36call more than one eight-legged
25:38cephalopod? Is it octopuses or is
25:40it octopi? Well, it
25:42first showed up in English in the mid-1700s,
25:44and it was given the standard English
25:46plural, ES, because that's what we used
25:48to do with nouns. So far, so
25:50good, except there was a movement afoot
25:52at the time who wanted to bring English
25:54more into line with classical
25:56languages, because they were thought to be not just
25:58refined and sophisticated, but also more predictable
26:00and smoother
26:02in many ways. So
26:04grammarians at the time took a whole group
26:06of English words and gave them
26:08Latin endings.
26:10It made sense. So aquarius became
26:12aquariar, and
26:14syllabuses became syllabi.
26:16Criterion, which was Greek, became
26:18criteriar, etc. And many of them
26:20we still keep today.
26:22And this is what happened with octopuses as well.
26:24They gave it the Latin ending octopi.
26:26So that sort of makes sense,
26:28except there's only one problem, because yes, it did come
26:30to English via Latin, but ultimately
26:32it goes back to ancient Greek.
26:34And when the smarter grammarians worked this out,
26:36they gave it the correct Greek plural,
26:38which is octopodes,
26:40believe it or not. So it's P-O-D-E-S
26:42at the end. So the picture became
26:44even more difficult. But
26:46eventually the tide of resistance became too
26:48strong. Most English speakers accepted
26:50that, you know, if it's going to be English, we're going to put the
26:52E-S ending on, and that's what they did.
26:54So most people today will say
26:56octopuses rather than octopi or
26:58octopodes, but you do have
27:00a choice. If you consult
27:02lots of dictionaries that will tell you that in formal
27:04occasions, you can get away with the Latin ending.
27:06But no-one going into a guitar shop
27:08as I did once and asking for a couple of
27:10plectra instead of plectrums
27:12and practically being laughed out
27:14of the shop would do that, I think.
27:16Just stick to the English ending. I think
27:18pedants will say, no, you know, it's got to be
27:20Latin. It's fine in formal context, but
27:22otherwise the English is absolutely fine.
27:24Brilliant. Well done.
27:26APPLAUSE
27:2875
27:30plus 43. Chris on 75,
27:32and it's Ryan's letters game.
27:34A consonant, please, Rachel. Thank you, Ryan.
27:36L
27:38And another?
27:40P
27:42And another?
27:44R
27:46And a vowel?
27:48I And another?
27:50U
27:52Another vowel?
27:54O
27:56And another vowel, please?
27:58E
28:00L
28:02And a final consonant, please?
28:04And a final F.
28:06Stand by.
28:30MUSIC PLAYS
28:38Ryan? Six.
28:40A six and? Six.
28:42Ryan? Fuller.
28:44Chris? Filler.
28:46In the corner, Susanna and Susie.
28:48We have a seven, which is
28:50rouille, which is a Provencal sauce
28:52added to bouillabaisse.
28:54So it's R-O-U-I-L-L-E.
28:57Made from pounded red chillies, garlic, breadcrumbs
28:59Yeah, lovely.
29:01That sounds delicious.
29:03Floated on top, yeah.
29:05Rouille, excellent.
29:0781 to 49.
29:09Chris, final letters game.
29:11Consonant, please. Thank you, Chris.
29:13C
29:15And another?
29:17L
29:19One more?
29:21T
29:23Vowel?
29:25A
29:27O
29:29Consonant?
29:31S
29:33And another?
29:35R
29:37And final vowel, please?
29:39And a final E.
29:41Stand by.
29:43MUSIC PLAYS
29:57MUSIC STOPS
30:13Chris? Nine.
30:15Thank you. Ryan? Eight.
30:17And your eight?
30:19Treacles.
30:21Now, then. Relocates?
30:23Excellent. Well done.
30:25APPLAUSE
30:31Well done.
30:33Any more nines?
30:35No, I think he's cleaned up there.
30:37That will do. That's it.
30:39Yeah, you can have cotis for seven.
30:41Short coats worn by infants.
30:43Yeah.
30:45Treacles, not sure about. It's a mass noun, really.
30:47I don't know if you can get different types of treacles.
30:49Arguably, you could ask for more than one in a restaurant.
30:51But relocates is excellent.
30:53Well done. 99.
30:55You're pretty much there.
30:5799-49 as we turn to Ryan's final numbers game.
30:59Yes, Ryan?
31:01Can I have one from the top and five from anywhere else, please?
31:03You can, indeed. Thank you, Ryan.
31:05One large, five little to finish the day.
31:07And this last selection
31:09is five, eight,
31:11four, three,
31:13one, and the big one,
31:1550.
31:17And this target, 991.
31:19Nine, nine, one.
31:21Here we go.
31:51Yes, Ryan?
31:53991.
31:55991, Chris?
31:57991.
31:59Now, Ryan?
32:01Four times five times 50 is 1,000.
32:031,000.
32:05And take away the eight and the one.
32:07Lovely. 991. Straightforward.
32:09And, Chris?
32:11Same way?
32:13Yeah.
32:15APPLAUSE
32:17So, well done.
32:19Conundrum time, gentlemen.
32:21Fingers on buzzers.
32:23Let's roll today's countdown conundrum.
32:29BELL RINGS
32:31Yes, Chris? Processed.
32:33Let's see whether you're right.
32:35Well done.
32:37119.
32:39APPLAUSE
32:43Mr OctoChamp Chris Thorne, well done.
32:45119, but I'll come to you in a minute.
32:47You know, Ryan, you had a slow start,
32:49but then you were absolutely in the groove,
32:51and then he came in with a nine,
32:53and that killed it off for you.
32:55But I think, had you, you know,
32:57perhaps been a bit more relaxed at the start,
32:59you'd have given him a run for his money.
33:01Oh, no, fair play to Chris. He did a fantastic job.
33:03No, he did absolutely... Listen, he's been doing it all the time.
33:05So now he's an OctoChamp.
33:07What I'm saying to you is,
33:09I think you're a great player too.
33:11But a nine is such a sort of devastating blow
33:13to any player.
33:15So take this goodie bag back to Stirling with you.
33:17Good luck with the journalism and politics course.
33:19What will you do when you graduate, do you think?
33:21I hope to make a positive difference in the world,
33:23whatever form that may take.
33:25All right. Do you think you'll go into politics?
33:27Possibly. We'll wait and see.
33:29I couldn't possibly comment.
33:31Oh. All right.
33:33Thank you very much, Ryan.
33:35Well, good luck to you, anyway, whatever you do.
33:37And we shall see you, Mr OctoChamp.
33:39What a player you were.
33:41That was fantastic. 119 points.
33:43So, you have a quiet time now,
33:45and we'll see you in June.
33:47Excellent.
33:49We'll see you in June. Congratulations.
33:51Cricket round again.
33:53What a wonderful player.
33:55Anyway, we'll see him in June, but we shall see you tomorrow.
33:57That's right.
33:59Susanna. And Susie too, of course.
34:01Wonderful.
34:03Wasn't he great with the conundrums?
34:05Just brilliant all round.
34:07And June feels like a long time away,
34:09but you need to keep practising, Chris.
34:11Join us then, two new players,
34:13same time, same place, you'll be very sure of it.
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