Harga tiket tranportasi udara alias pesawat di Indonesia dinilai banyak pihak sudah terlalu mahal. Bahkan, jika dibandingkan dengan negara-negara di wilayah ASEAN dan negara berpenduduk tinggi, harga tiket penerbangan di Tanah Air tercatat menempat posisi kedua termahal setelah Brasil.
Menyikapi hal tersebut, Menteri Koordinator Bidang Kemaritiman dan Investasi Luhut Binsar Pandjaitan seperti dikutip dalam laman media sosial menyebutkan, Pemerintah tengah menyiapkan sejumlah langkah untuk mengefisiensikan operasional penerbangan dan menurunkan harga tiket pesawat. Salah satunya, dengan melakukan evaluasi operasi biaya pesawat, dimana Cost Per Block Hour (CBH) yang merupakan komponen biaya operasi pesawat terbesar perlu diidentifikasi rincian pembentukannya.
Pemerintah juga berencana untuk mengakselerasi pembebasan bea masuk dan pembukaan lartas barang impor tertentu, terkait perawatan pesawat. Kemudian, mekanisme perhitungan tarif perlu disesuaikan berdasarkan biaya operasional maskapai per jam, di mana pengenaan tarif berdasarkan sektor rute berdampak terhadap dua kali tarif PPN, iuran wajib Jasa Raharja, dan passenger service charge bagi penumpang yang melakukan pergantian pesawat.
Oleh sebab itu, Pemerintah akan membentuk Satuan Tugas atau Satgas Penurunan Harga Tiket Pesawat, untuk menciptakan harga tiket pesawat yang lebih efesien dan terjangkau di Indonesia.
Menyikapi hal tersebut, Menteri Koordinator Bidang Kemaritiman dan Investasi Luhut Binsar Pandjaitan seperti dikutip dalam laman media sosial menyebutkan, Pemerintah tengah menyiapkan sejumlah langkah untuk mengefisiensikan operasional penerbangan dan menurunkan harga tiket pesawat. Salah satunya, dengan melakukan evaluasi operasi biaya pesawat, dimana Cost Per Block Hour (CBH) yang merupakan komponen biaya operasi pesawat terbesar perlu diidentifikasi rincian pembentukannya.
Pemerintah juga berencana untuk mengakselerasi pembebasan bea masuk dan pembukaan lartas barang impor tertentu, terkait perawatan pesawat. Kemudian, mekanisme perhitungan tarif perlu disesuaikan berdasarkan biaya operasional maskapai per jam, di mana pengenaan tarif berdasarkan sektor rute berdampak terhadap dua kali tarif PPN, iuran wajib Jasa Raharja, dan passenger service charge bagi penumpang yang melakukan pergantian pesawat.
Oleh sebab itu, Pemerintah akan membentuk Satuan Tugas atau Satgas Penurunan Harga Tiket Pesawat, untuk menciptakan harga tiket pesawat yang lebih efesien dan terjangkau di Indonesia.
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00:00Indonesia's Economic Development
00:02The Indonesian Government
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00:06The Indonesian Government
00:08The Indonesian Government
00:10The Indonesian Government
00:12The Indonesian Government
00:14The Indonesian Government
00:16Hello viewers, how are you today?
00:18Back again with me, Prasetya Wibowo
00:20in the Market Review program
00:22which will address the issues of Indonesia's economic development
00:24and this time we will discuss the air transportation sector
00:26especially where the government
00:28is planning to create an air ticket price reduction fund
00:31and how effective it is
00:33and what impact it will have on air travel
00:35Let's start the Market Review
00:48The government is planning to create a task force
00:50or an air ticket price reduction fund
00:53in order to create a more efficient and affordable air ticket price
00:57in Indonesia
01:03The air ticket price
01:05or air passenger ticket price in Indonesia
01:07is considered to be too expensive
01:09Even compared to other countries
01:11in the ASEAN region
01:13and countries with high population
01:15the air ticket price in Indonesia
01:17ranks second most expensive
01:19after Brazil
01:22Regarding this issue, the Minister of Maritime Affairs
01:25and Investment Lihut Bin Sarpanjaita
01:27as quoted in a social media ad
01:29says
01:31the government is preparing a number of steps
01:33to make air travel operational more efficient
01:35and reduce the price of air ticket
01:39One of them is to evaluate
01:41the cost of air travel
01:43where the cost per block hour
01:45or CBH
01:47which is the largest component of air travel
01:49needs to be carefully identified
01:51its formation
01:53In addition, the government
01:55is also planning to accelerate
01:57free entry
01:59and opening of certain imported goods
02:01related to aircraft maintenance
02:03Then the tariff calculation mechanism
02:05needs to be adjusted
02:07based on the operational cost
02:09per hour
02:11where the tariff calculation based on the route sector
02:13has an impact on two times the PPM tariff
02:15EUR tax
02:17and passenger service charge
02:19for passengers who do
02:21aircraft replacement
02:23Next, the government
02:25is studying the provision of tax incentives
02:27added value in the government's burden
02:29or PPMDTP
02:31for several priority destinations
02:33Therefore, the government
02:35will also form a task force
02:37or aircraft ticket price reduction
02:39to create
02:41a more efficient and affordable
02:43air ticket price in Indonesia
02:47How far is the effectiveness of the
02:49aircraft ticket price reduction tax?
02:51Let's see the complete discussion
02:53from Jakarta
02:55IDX Jakarta coverage team
03:01Ladies and gentlemen, let's discuss our interesting topic this time
03:03How effective is the aircraft ticket price reduction tax?
03:05We have been connected by Zoom
03:07together with Mr. Irfan Setiaputra,
03:09the Chief Director of PT Garuda Indonesia Perseverance Tbk
03:11Good morning, Mr. Irfan
03:13Good morning, Mr. Irfan
03:23Let's welcome Mr. Bayu Sutanto
03:25He is the Secretary-General of Indonesia National Air Carrier Association
03:27or INACA
03:29Good morning, Mr. Bayu
03:31Good morning, sir
03:33Good morning, Mr. Bayu
03:35Thank you for your time
03:37while we wait for Mr. Irfan Setiaputra
03:39the Chief Director of PT Garuda Indonesia
03:41Mr. Bayu, we will review first
03:43about the aviation industry
03:45How far is it?
03:47In the middle, the issue that is quite
03:49interesting lately is related to the price
03:51of air ticket, please
03:53So, indeed
03:55the aviation industry
03:57since last year
03:59has begun the process
04:01or recovery stage
04:03after COVID-19
04:05But
04:07there is an issue
04:09we know that
04:11two variable components
04:13for the price of air ticket
04:15especially the US dollar
04:17and the actual price
04:19which is very high
04:21compared to the value
04:23or the assumption set
04:25in 2019
04:29there is a regulation
04:31related to TBA
04:33and until now it has not been revised
04:35so the increase is quite sharp
04:37in 2019
04:39based on the assumption
04:41the price of air ticket
04:43is around Rp10,200
04:45and the US dollar
04:47is still
04:49Rp14,100
04:53while we know that
04:57the price of air ticket
04:59the component is
05:01around 40-45%
05:03of the operating cost
05:05and also
05:07the US dollar
05:09is quite high
05:11the operating cost
05:13is around
05:1570-80% of the US dollar
05:17so it doesn't match
05:19the assumption used
05:21for the TBA
05:23Okay, so it is related to the basics
05:25if Mr. Bayus is not reviewing
05:27related to the aviation industry
05:29and the movement of the price of air ticket
05:31and we will talk to Mr. Irfan Setia Putra
05:33Good morning, Mr. Irfan
05:35Good morning, Mr. Setia Putra, Mr. Bayus
05:37Good morning, Mr. Irfan
05:39Good morning
05:41Good morning, Mr. Irfan
05:43Thank you for your time
05:45It is interesting if we review
05:47from the review of Garuda Indonesia
05:49what are the challenges
05:51that are being faced by
05:53the aviation operators at the moment
05:55if Mr. Bayus has already mentioned
05:57the challenges
05:59there is the US dollar
06:01so if you ask
06:03the challenges, actually there are no challenges
06:05if we can sell freely
06:07the price of the ticket and be handed over to the market
06:09but what is now
06:11an interesting issue is
06:13the discussion about
06:15the effort to reduce the rate
06:17or the price of the ticket
06:19and
06:21I
06:23who is usually the target
06:25of the netizens
06:27actually very
06:29calm and happy
06:31finally this is an issue
06:33that Mr. Luhut
06:35has raised
06:37and will try to solve
06:39through Satgas
06:41when we talk about the price of the ticket
06:43when we talk about the price of the product
06:45when we talk about the price of anything
06:47that becomes a problem
06:49that is debated
06:51we must return to the foundation
06:53why the price of the ticket is there
06:55so I mean
06:57this is an opportunity
06:59for us together to see
07:01the financial structure
07:03that is
07:05in the price of the ticket
07:07in a nutshell
07:09I want to say
07:11there are two
07:13financial structures
07:15in the price of the ticket
07:17the first is the upper limit rate
07:19or the limit rate set
07:21by the government in regulation
07:23which is basically
07:25operational
07:27flight costs
07:29multiplied by
07:31flight distance
07:33it is in the
07:35government regulation
07:37after
07:39ground handling
07:41cost
07:43landing fee
07:45navigation fee, plane rent
07:47and also overhead
07:49and then multiplied by flight distance
07:51which unfortunately is
07:53if we fly
07:55Mr. Bayu knows that we can't fly straight
07:57and sometimes we have to turn
07:59while flying
08:01that's a big group
08:03which was said by Mr. Bayu
08:05for five years we have never
08:07increased
08:09even though many components
08:11increased, so there is a dollar
08:13there is a component
08:15after, but what people also like to forget
08:17is that there is an inflation component
08:19because I have to raise the employee's salary
08:21I have to raise the salary
08:23because everything is inflated
08:25now the second group
08:27above
08:29the limit rate is
08:31PGP2U
08:33PGP2U
08:35if people used to call it
08:37ecotex, so our salary
08:39which is paid to the airport
08:41then taxes
08:43well
08:45then also tax
08:47service
08:49insurance
08:51well, I can say
08:53like this
08:55when it's done
08:57TBI is already
08:59five years no increase
09:01while PGP2U
09:03or ecotex
09:05every two years can increase
09:07I just want to take an example
09:09for example
09:11flight to
09:13Jogja from Cengkareng
09:15Jogja to Cengkareng
09:17Cengkareng is 1.2
09:19the most expensive
09:21it must be cut
09:23with ecotex or PGP2U
09:25in Jakarta
09:27Rp170,000 Terminal 3
09:29while
09:31Terminal 2 Rp120,000
09:33Rp50,000
09:35small, but if compared to 1.2
09:37it's also big
09:39then cut Rp5,000
09:41insurance
09:43after that, the component
09:45after being cut is included
09:47PGP2U 11%
09:49this year, the number has increased by 12%
09:51well from 1.2
09:53which actually entered Maskapai
09:55in Garuda, it's only Rp900
09:57so Rp300
09:59is not for Maskapai
10:01so if you ask for a ticket to go up, don't
10:03Maskapai also be angry
10:05because there are others, we only go up Rp900
10:07well Rp900 is what Mr. Bayu said
10:09inside
10:11there is Aftur
10:13there are components
10:15various
10:17various components
10:19one of them
10:21what I want to share
10:23is that when we buy
10:25spare parts to fix the plane
10:27the spare parts are taxed
10:29the spare parts
10:31are used by our business
10:33to fix the plane
10:35our business is charging the cost
10:37including the spare parts
10:39taxed again
10:41so there are several times taxed
10:43I don't want to say please remove it
10:45I also don't want if we fly
10:47don't give tax continuation to the government
10:49to the country
10:51but by
10:53discussing the price reduction of this ticket
10:55I am very happy because this is
10:57our opportunity together as a stakeholder
10:59to see
11:01what is the structure of the cost
11:03and if it is said
11:05that the airline is not effective, it will go
11:07not efficient, it will go
11:09but there are costs
11:11why is it good?
11:13why is it so big?
11:15and if you ask
11:17what is the cost, that's it
11:19Mr. Irfan, this is interesting
11:21because we also know that one of the next efforts
11:23is to accelerate the release of
11:25tickets and also the opening of
11:27certain imported goods related to
11:29plane maintenance, we will see later
11:31what is the need
11:33on the ground, how big is the
11:35initiative that must be given, we will discuss later
11:37Mr. Irfan and Mr. Bayu, we will stop for a while
11:39and Mr. Mirsa, make sure you are still with us
11:59yes, thank you for still joining us
12:01in the next market review
12:03we provide data related to components
12:05from the cost of plane tickets
12:07I take an example from the route from Cengkareng to Surabaya
12:09by using Airbus 320
12:11full service
12:13yes, you can see the complete data on your television screen
12:15there are several items
12:17or components, first of all
12:19plane insurance premium is around
12:216.93%, then
12:23technician's salary is 14.7%
12:25there is a plane maintenance salary
12:271.79%, training
12:290.68%, then
12:31afturnya 35.76%
12:33passenger 0.34%,
12:35aircraft fare 2.24%
12:37and next
12:39there is overhaul
12:41and improvement, this also occupies a position
12:43which is quite high after the aftur
12:45this is 16.19%
12:47flying fee
12:49ground handling
12:51catering, general costs and
12:53organization, then ordering, sales
12:55and promotion agent, then there is
12:57profit margin
12:59there are several components like that
13:01we will continue the discussion with Mr. Irfan Setia Putra
13:03Director of PT Garuda Indonesia
13:05Persero TBK and also
13:07Mr. Bayu Sutanto, Sec Gen Inaka
13:09we will present some data
13:11let's go to Mr. Bayu first
13:13how is it, if you see
13:15Mr. Bayu's own Inaka
13:17the government will also form Satgas
13:19then this has been received
13:21positively by Garuda Indonesia
13:23so that the output is expected
13:25there is also a solution
13:27that can make everyone happy
13:29please Mr. Bayu
13:31yes, first
13:33of course, the structure
13:35Mr. Irfan said earlier
13:37the operating cost structure
13:39we base it on
13:41on-block-off
13:43or post-block-hour
13:45but in the rules
13:47of the PT Garuda Indonesia
13:49according to the route counter
13:51it is based on the area
13:53while we know for some tight airports
13:55or they
13:57don't have taxiway
13:59it makes the distance
14:01what is it
14:03not right, so the calculation
14:05must be from the flight time
14:07or the on-block-off
14:09another example for short-distance flights
14:11if based on the distance
14:13it means like
14:15from Denpasar to Lombok
14:17or
14:19Jengkareng to Lampung
14:21it's short, the flight is only 20 minutes
14:23if only based on the distance
14:25it is calculated
14:27one hour
14:29how much is the distance, then the short-distance
14:31up to the hour
14:33which becomes an incentive for the cost
14:35to be lower
14:37for the short-distance
14:39the maintenance cost is higher
14:41because there is a cycle
14:43so what should be the cycle
14:45one by one is one hour
14:47one cycle
14:49or more efficient
14:51if you fly for two hours
14:53the cycle
14:55for two hours
14:57so one by one
14:59but with this distance calculation
15:01method
15:03it is not suitable
15:05with the real cost
15:07based on the on-block-off
15:09that's the first
15:11then the second
15:13it must be changed again
15:15in our opinion
15:17I agree with Mr. Irfan
15:19we are actually the same
15:21there is no more drawback
15:23just leave it to the market mechanism
15:25because the price of the plane
15:27wherever
15:29in the world
15:31and other worlds
15:33always dynamic
15:35not always
15:37one price for 365 days
15:39every time
15:41so it depends on the season
15:43depends on the day
15:45depends on the demand
15:47and so on
15:49that's what should be done
15:51by the customer
15:53not just based on the cost
15:55it means
15:57the balance of supply and demand
15:59must be maintained
16:01balance of supply and demand
16:03Mr. Irfan, then how about
16:05some components
16:07if we look at the route from Cengkaring to Surabaya
16:09indeed the biggest
16:11there is aftur, then overhaul and improvement
16:13while one of the government's efforts
16:15there was an acceleration of free entry
16:17then LARTAS
16:19also for components
16:21maybe airplane maintenance
16:23how do you see it?
16:25so back again
16:27I don't comment first
16:29about the structure that was mentioned earlier
16:31because we have to
16:33discuss this together
16:35and agree
16:37what is the right structure
16:39so
16:41that's the first
16:43the second
16:45about Jakarta-Surabaya flight
16:47we also have to talk about
16:49Jakarta-Surabaya, because at that time
16:51we have to go back to Jakarta-Surabaya
16:53I like to take
16:55Bali as an example
16:57on Sunday, Jakarta-Bali
16:59is quiet
17:01but
17:03Bali-Jakarta, all of our flights
17:05how many times we fly
17:07up to 10 flights during the long weekend
17:09the passengers are confused
17:11the waiting list is high
17:13so
17:15this is what was mentioned by
17:17Mas Bayu, how do we balance
17:19because we have to
17:21see the flight
17:23back and forth
17:25not just going
17:27and no one goes back and forth with the same flight
17:29if he stays for 2-3 days
17:31so sometimes for long weekend or vacation
17:33it's like we fly
17:35jamah haji
17:37full flight, empty flight, empty flight, full flight
17:39so back again
17:41I want to try to invite all parties
17:43to open their eyes
17:45that there is a cost structure
17:47in the price of the ticket
17:49the first question is
17:51where is the cost structure that correlates
17:53directly to Mas Kapai
17:55which is asked for us to be more efficient
17:57okay
17:59second, where is the cost structure
18:01that goes to the country
18:03in this case the tax
18:05whether the tax must be applied once
18:07or repeatedly
18:09so don't be complicated
18:11where the rules
18:13that we can waive
18:15or we can break
18:17that does not violate the rules
18:19because I don't want to
18:21then Mas Kapai does not contribute
18:23to the country's income
18:25the third, where actually
18:27it doesn't have to go through the price of the ticket
18:29okay
18:31it's a bit of a report
18:33if I park my car
18:35my car parking fee is added to the price of the ticket
18:37this is a new idea
18:39tourism
18:41added to the price of the ticket
18:43because the public always blames
18:45the one who issues the price of the ticket
18:47is Mas Kapai
18:49when he goes up, the one who is blamed is Mas Kapai
18:51in the majority, as I said
18:53to Jogja 1.2 million, only 900
18:55300 is just passed
18:57Mas Pras
18:59300 just passed
19:01and most of it
19:03passed to the airport
19:05and when the airport
19:07every two years, we keep going up
19:09two years, the airport just passed
19:11I just let the funds pass
19:13so we
19:15once talked in Inaka
19:17Mr. Bayu
19:19if this PGP2U
19:21back to the old days
19:23so that there are no airlines
19:25so if you check in
19:27Mr. Pras, you pay
19:29if you don't fly, you don't have to pay
19:31if they
19:33who ordered the ticket, paid everything
19:35and didn't fly
19:37it's a waste of money
19:39the PGP2U money, because you didn't fly
19:41I give one more information
19:43in this budget structure
19:45Mr. Pras
19:47who is always asked
19:49why is it cheaper abroad
19:51expensive abroad
19:53compared to Jakarta-Singapur
19:55Jakarta-Singapur and Jakarta-Sorong
19:57it's easy to answer
19:59the distance is also far
20:01but a lot of people don't know
20:03that Aftur
20:05in the country
20:07if we use domestic flights
20:09it hits the PGP2U
20:11Aftur abroad doesn't hit
20:15so the Aftur we bought
20:17for Jakarta-Surabaya
20:19flight
20:21the Aftur hits the PGP2U
20:23while Jakarta-Singapur
20:25doesn't hit the PGP2U
20:27the number of Aftur used may be the same
20:29the second
20:31Jakarta-Surabaya ticket
20:33hits the PGP2U
20:35Aftur hits the PGP2U
20:37there is 11% PGP2U
20:39it hits the PGP2U
20:41if abroad, the ticket doesn't hit the PGP2U
20:45so
20:47it's easy to answer
20:49why the price of domestic tickets
20:51may be a bit more expensive
20:53compared to international
20:55but even worse, domestic
20:57if you go to Garuda, the international
20:59uses Jetstar
21:01even worse
21:03even if you go to Surabaya
21:05if you go to Singapore
21:07you have to pay
21:09so my point is
21:11we don't have to
21:13oppose the airline
21:15government
21:17finance
21:19with our consumers
21:21but let's sit down
21:23and I'm very open
21:25if you want to
21:27I'll give you the details
21:29you can see later
21:31this is what you get
21:33this is what you get
21:35so how much do you get in Garuda
21:37I'm very happy
21:39I keep waiting
21:41at the Satgas law to talk about this
21:43and I will talk about the cost
21:45from there we can see
21:47don't cut it
21:49cut the reserve
21:51but not the others
21:53the tax is also affected
21:55but is it removed
21:57and make the 1.2 become 800
21:59no
22:01okay Mr. Irfan
22:03it's a lot
22:05and sometimes I see
22:07something that shouldn't be left to the customer
22:09this information
22:11we have to spread
22:13to the public
22:15that this is a component of the price requirement
22:17maybe Mr. Irfan said
22:19we have to sit together
22:21and invite other stakeholders
22:23in the aviation industry
22:25we will continue
22:27what is the hope with the presence of
22:29the price decrease
22:31in the next segment
22:33Mr. Irfan and Mr. Bayu
22:35we will be back in a moment
22:37and Mr. Mirsa
22:39make sure you are still with us
22:52our discussion is getting more interesting
22:54related to the Satgas that will be formed by the government
22:56related to the price of plane tickets
22:58we go to Mr. Irfan first
23:00how is it Mr. Irfan
23:02if the hope is that this Satgas
23:04can be a solution
23:06become a thing that is expected
23:08so really
23:10what should be the cost
23:12by the airline
23:14especially Garuda Indonesia
23:16who will enter the country
23:18then what should not be included in the price of the ticket
23:20what is your hope with the presence of Satgas
23:22yes, so
23:24again, I want to say
23:261000% support to Satgas
23:28and ready to be called
23:30to provide input
23:32but again, when we talk about price
23:34we want to decrease
23:36what we see is
23:38cost
23:40I am happy
23:42I will open
23:44this is the cost
23:46this is our margin
23:48hopefully later
23:50friends in Satgas can
23:52nod their heads
23:54Garuda can still benefit
23:56what I mean is
23:58let's open
24:00which should be burdened
24:02to the price of the ticket
24:04and become a duty and responsibility
24:06of the passenger
24:08which is not
24:10because of course with
24:12Satgas, in addition to the price of the ticket
24:14which benefits
24:16the passengers
24:18but the ecosystem is also healthier
24:20I want to give
24:22another example
24:24BJP 2U at Terminal 3
24:26is Rp 50,000 more expensive
24:28than Terminal 2
24:30okay
24:32now
24:34the question is
24:36can I land in Pener Cabe
24:38which may be cheaper
24:40okay
24:42the question is simple
24:44so let's
24:46discuss in a room
24:48where there is no obstacle
24:50discuss for the benefit of the nation
24:52together
24:54then determine, it can be the decision
24:56can't be, it must be BJP 2U
24:58at Terminal 3
25:00because we
25:02big investment, it should be Rp 500,000
25:04the price today is Rp 170,000
25:06where do we succeed? In Mongolia
25:08but let's open it to the passengers
25:10yes
25:12okay
25:14Mr. Bayu, what do you think?
25:16it looks like
25:18we have to sit together
25:20we are looking for a solution
25:22how the components of the price
25:24can be separated one by one
25:26but what do you want
25:28to underline
25:30with the output that is produced
25:32with the presence of Satgas, Mr. Bayu
25:34yes, of course, I agree with Mr. Erfan
25:36I agree, Satgas is
25:38in the form of Satgas, it is a moment
25:40of change
25:42the example just mentioned, Mr. Erfan
25:44PEC at Sukarno Rata
25:461, 2, 3, it's different
25:48while a few years ago
25:50coincidentally, we visited
25:52and made a comparison
25:54with ASEAN
25:56at Changi
25:58Terminal 1, 2, 3, 4
26:00the PEC is the same
26:02because the one that determines the price
26:04is not Changi Airport
26:06but by the Economic Development Board
26:08of Singapore
26:10so they won't
26:12calculate
26:14if the new building has a high price
26:16then it is amortized
26:18for a few years
26:20so the PEC is the same
26:22so in other countries
26:24it's almost the same, the PEC
26:26is determined not only by the airport
26:28but also
26:30by
26:32not only the ministry
26:34or the MOT
26:36but also by the Economic Development Board
26:38of Singapore
26:40for example, there is
26:42an umbrella
26:44that determines
26:46the aviation industry
26:50Okay, so we will wait
26:52for the process
26:54and work
26:56done by Satgas while waiting
26:58for the operators
27:00of our aviation
27:02then maybe the airport manager
27:04will sit with the government
27:06so that there will be
27:08a discussion
27:10that can be a solution
27:12that can give a significant impact
27:14related to Mr. Kapai's work, income
27:16and other things
27:18and the country can also get
27:20maximum results. Mr. Irfan, thank you very much
27:22for sharing
27:24you're welcome
27:26I just want to remind you
27:28first, we don't determine Mr. Kapai
27:30as a passenger
27:32because we are the number one passenger
27:34so if you want to raise the price
27:36if you have to pay, you have to pay
27:38but the passenger is number one
27:40so please don't be formed in the process
27:42second, as a fellow citizen
27:44we control Satgas with good intentions
27:46so I suggest
27:48maybe there will be regular discussions
27:50like this
27:52because this is also part of education to the public
27:54about the price of a
27:56service
27:58so that we can continue to get it
28:00I would like to tell my friends
28:02in Garuda
28:04I am very open to suggestions
28:06like, Mr. Irfan, this area
28:08should be like this
28:10which we may have missed
28:12we will be very grateful
28:14but what we want
28:16is a healthy ecosystem
28:18and
28:20passengers have to pay
28:22expensive or not
28:24but the last thing
28:26I also hope
28:28not only hearing
28:30that this is expensive, but let's do proper research
28:32about
28:34which price is actually appropriate
28:36in the eyes of their perception of flying
28:38because
28:40there is an association
28:42of flight users
28:44this flight service is doing research
28:46led by
28:48Mr. Alvin Lee to those
28:50who have a boarding pass
28:5277% of those
28:54who are being researched say the price is fair
28:56very true
28:58the second
29:00this is our effort
29:02crazy
29:04discussing like this to find the price
29:06of plane tickets with the hope
29:08that the tourism industry will increase
29:10the fact
29:12that was checked at the time
29:14by Mr. Alvin Lee and his friends
29:16only 12% of them work for tourism
29:18from them
29:207,000 boarding pass holders
29:22we agree with Mr. Alvin
29:24there must be more research
29:26more comprehensive
29:28just like
29:30quick count
29:32which is actually close to 0.1%
29:34so
29:36we as players in
29:38this ecosystem
29:40the government as a regulator
29:42can take a very right position
29:44according to the needs
29:46in the eyes of the public
29:48Thank you, Mr. Irfan
29:50and hopefully later
29:52we look forward to the results
29:54from the price drop
29:56everybody happy
29:58with the development of a healthier system
30:00for the Indonesian aviation industry
30:02thank you for your time
30:04Mr. Irfan and Mr. Bayu
30:06good health
30:08thank you
30:10Mr. Bayu, good health
30:12thank you
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