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00:00You know it, I know it, Mr. Radha also knows it,
00:03that at this time, the talks or somehow the other,
00:06fix on any one point that
00:08there will be no politics on these things, on these issues,
00:11there will be matters of security,
00:13there will be matters of country's peace,
00:15there will be matters of economy,
00:16there will be politics for the sake of politics
00:18and for the sake of betterment of people,
00:20but there will be no politics for the sake of destruction.
00:23If this thing is decided,
00:24then at least find a way out.
00:26The government is saying that we have no way.
00:28They don't see a way out,
00:30that how to talk to you.
00:31They don't see a way,
00:32that if they try to talk to you,
00:34then how will the talk be sustained in future,
00:36if Mr. Khan doesn't veto it.
00:38So this situation has come to a standstill.
00:40I wish maths was as simple as you said,
00:43that you draw lines,
00:45we won't talk about securities,
00:47we won't talk about foreign policy,
00:49we won't do this and that.
00:51So can these lines be drawn for someone else
00:53that they won't come into politics,
00:55they won't interfere,
00:56they won't make governments,
00:57these red lines should be drawn for everyone.
00:59It shouldn't be just for political parties.
01:01It shouldn't be just for banning Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
01:04This has to be a total document for everybody to follow.
01:07Every power circle that exists in Pakistan,
01:10its own TORs should be defined.
01:13This is your TOR,
01:14this is your TOR.
01:15It's not possible that our TORs are defined
01:17and then someone else's TOR is not defined.
01:19Forget it, let's move ahead.
01:21You said a great thing, Mr. Rana.
01:23I want to ask a question.
01:25When the Prime Minister was saying
01:27that let's talk about security,
01:29didn't he remember what you were doing
01:31with the leader of this party?
01:33He was getting out of the Tosha Khana case
01:35and was going to Saifar
01:37and after that he was going to the Iddah case.
01:39So you are doing this with the leader
01:41of that political party
01:43and you are sitting and talking.
01:45The kind of attitude in Adyala
01:47with Bushra and Khan,
01:49do you really think we can talk to him?
01:51We have 102 people in the military.
01:54It's been a year
01:56and we are still waiting
01:58for the military cases
02:00and the military trials of civilians.
02:02There is no time to make a decision.
02:04The families of 102 people
02:06are still sitting at home
02:08and waiting for a decision.
02:10The people's punishments have been fulfilled.
02:12They could have gone for an appeal.
02:14He wants to talk to us about Mohshab.
02:16Our entire leadership is in Jinnah House.
02:18The bailout is being cancelled.
02:20What do you really expect?
02:22Do you want to ban the party?
02:24Yes, let's ban it.
02:26Let's put Article 6 on Mr. Imran Khan
02:28and RFLB on Qasim Suri.
02:30This is confidence building.
02:32You should give me a guarantee
02:34that if he doesn't take such steps
02:36then you will talk
02:38and you will stay silent.
02:40There is no guarantee for this.
02:42I will say this very clearly.
02:44There is no case on him right now.
02:46We all know that there is no case on Mr. Khan
02:48except for the Khanda 9 case
02:50which was filed a year ago.
02:52Today, we are putting a ban on it.
02:54You should release Bushra on confidence building.
02:56There is no case on her.
02:58She is a free citizen.
03:00But you have put a hold on her
03:02so that Mr. Khan doesn't get pressurized.
03:04Leave her.
03:06You should at least start giving a gesture.
03:08You should end our military trials.
03:10If there are cases, if there are no punishments,
03:12you should release them.
03:14You should give some space to our leaders.
03:16Just because you have that power behind you
03:18You should promise me
03:20on behalf of PTI
03:22that you will not go astray
03:24and you will not stand in front of that gate
03:26to give us government.
03:28Forever.
03:30The biggest pressure on a person
03:32is the ethical pressure.
03:34Today, he will take a step forward
03:36and we will also take a step forward.
03:38The people will force us.
03:40We have other issues.
03:42This is the issue of the people.
03:44We will also think that the government is doing something
03:46and we will talk about it.
03:48For now, everyone is doing their own thing.
03:50Let's wait and see.
03:52Today, I was looking at
03:54Mr. Mariam Nawaz and Mr. Nawaz's statement.
03:56The Supreme Court's decisions cannot be like this.
03:58This is exactly the same tenor
04:00that was in Gujranwala.
04:02I am sorry, I am cutting you short.
04:04It is not right to talk like this
04:06about the Supreme Court.
04:08But when the judges' decisions
04:10come against you,
04:12they come from your side.
04:14When all the political parties
04:16are in the same situation,
04:18they behave in the same way.
04:20Mr. Rajan, they are saying
04:22that we should have a way out
04:24and build confidence.
04:26They are asking for prior actions.
04:28They are following the letter
04:30that the IMF writes.
04:32When we are inviting you
04:34to sit,
04:36if nothing comes out of it,
04:38then you can say that
04:40they did not do the right thing.
04:42They rejected the offer.
04:44The problem is that
04:46Khan does not have the capacity
04:48to talk.
04:50I would like to respond to this.
04:52He talked about foreign policy
04:54and that lines should be drawn.
04:56Who knows better than him
04:58how foreign policy is destroyed.
05:00He ruined the relationship with China.
05:02He says that if someone else runs foreign policy,
05:04then Mr. Khan ruined relations with
05:06the US, China, and Saudi Arabia.
05:08He should have drawn this line
05:10when he was inaugurated in 2018
05:12on the shoulders of the
05:14establishment and judiciary.
05:16But Mr. Rajan, they did wrong.
05:18They came as a hybrid government.
05:20They believe in their own people.
05:22How did you come?
05:24Tell me that.
05:26Will we keep going in this vicious circle?
05:28If they came like this,
05:30then we are justified.
05:32There is a fundamental difference.
05:34The fundamental difference is that
05:36when we were in opposition,
05:38we did not say this.
05:40When we were in opposition,
05:42you were brought in with a fake mandate.
05:44We were saying, let's sit together.
05:46Now what?
05:48Even today, Mr. Khan is saying that
05:50he does not want to talk to us.
05:52Who is saying this?
05:54Mr. Khan is saying that
05:56we have to talk to them.
05:58The problem is that
06:00they do not want to talk.
06:02I gave you the example of the Prime Minister.
06:04The problem is in them.
06:06They give abuses.
06:08They put slogans of corruption.
06:10They were the most corrupt government.
06:12They do not want to sit with them.
06:14The issue is not with us.
06:16I gave you the fundamental difference.
06:18I understand your point.
06:20The issue is from there.
06:22If the conversation starts from there,
06:24then you will talk.
06:26Tell me, how far has the ban issue reached?
06:28The ban on Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf.
06:30The meeting with the People's Party.
06:32Are they ready to ban the PGI?
06:35You have to do it in the court.
06:37You have to send a case to the Supreme Court.
06:39Then the Supreme Court has to decide
06:41whether to ban it or not.
06:43We understand that
06:45this is a party
06:47which has done a dangerous job
06:49with regards to 9th May.
06:51They have done planning and abetment.
06:53They have displayed it in front of the people
06:55that we can attack 10 military institutions.
06:57They have played with ciphers.
06:59Foreign funding.
07:01This is our point.
07:03Agreed.
07:05But the issue is
07:07that we have a coalition government.
07:09We have to share with them.
07:11If there is an agreement
07:13then the case is ready
07:15from our side
07:17that if we want to send it to the Supreme Court
07:19but with our coalition partners
07:21like the Deputy Prime Minister said
07:23that further discussion is required
07:25and if they agree,
07:27then we will ban it.
07:29But till now, it is easy.
07:31We believe
07:33that there are 100% evidence
07:35that this party
07:37can be banned.
07:39Next question.
07:41If you have so much evidence
07:43regarding 9th May,
07:45then why are you not in court?
07:47You have seen the evidence.
07:49You have seen the videos.
07:51It is a very simple thing.
07:53You have heard the audio
07:55that we have to play with ciphers.
07:57The whole nation has heard it.
07:59It is very difficult
08:01whether it is real or fake.
08:03If it is forensic,
08:05then it is an open and shut case.
08:07If the court does not want
08:09that it is a matter of national security
08:11and the court has to do something
08:13about it,
08:15then we will twist everything.
08:17If these things happen in London...
08:19According to you,
08:21the courts did not like it.
08:23In my opinion,
08:25an open and shut case
08:27ends the story
08:29that you have to play with ciphers.
08:31If you keep twisting things,
08:33then you can do it.