Meet Radhe Ma, a self-styled godwoman from Punjab, now a spiritual beacon in Mumbai. Born as Sukhvinder Kaur in Dorangala village, Punjab, she has been living in Mumbai for the past two decades. In a candid conversation with Outlook’s Editor Chinki Sinha and Senior Editor Shweta Desai, Radhe Ma shares her journey, her philosophy of Shringar, and the symbolism of the trident (Trishul) she carries. She also addresses the patriarchal challenges she faces as a godwoman, providing a unique perspective on spirituality and faith. Join us as we delve into the life of this intriguing personality, shedding light on her experiences and beliefs. This video is a must-watch for those interested in understanding the nuances of spirituality in contemporary India.
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00:00My love for Him is so great that He has chosen me for Himself, so I adorn myself for Him.
00:08I had only one question with God, who am I? Why have I come? What is my purpose?
00:31I am Shweta Desai. I am in Mumbai.
00:34Today we have along with us very popular and famous spiritual leader from Mumbai, Radhe Ma.
00:42Thank you for joining us.
00:45You are from Punjab and Mumbai is a very different city from Punjab.
00:53How did you come here from there and tell us about your spiritual journey?
01:02I had a lot of love and attachment for God.
01:06I used to go to Kali Mata's temple and Gurudwara Sahib.
01:10I had only one question with God, who am I? Why have I come? What is my purpose?
01:17I used to be very sad. I used to worship God.
01:24Once my father asked me why I was so sad.
01:30I told him that I had no problems, I was attached to God and I wanted to know who I was.
01:38I was sad because I was attached to God and I wanted to attain Him.
01:43I had only one goal in life and that was to attain God.
01:47Then my father took me to a saint, Mahant Ramadhin Das, who was 130 years old.
01:57He told me that he had a fire inside him and I had to channelize it.
02:03He gave me a mantra.
02:07I sat in a small room, like an ashram.
02:14I meditated for nine days and chanted the Durga Mantra.
02:20When I came out after nine days, the saint came and everyone started shouting that I was meditating.
02:29Whatever I said and did, people started listening to me.
02:37Whatever I said and did, people started listening to me.
02:44He made me proud because my intentions were good.
02:50There is still a world of patriarchy.
02:55People ask you about your glamour.
02:59There are many controversies.
03:02There are no such things on male saints.
03:05Is it a lot of pressure to be a woman God woman?
03:10In the sense that being a woman, it is a male world.
03:15In the sense that being a woman, it is a male world.
03:20Is there a lot of doubt? How do you navigate?
03:24There is not much doubt on male saints.
03:27There is a lot of doubt on women.
03:31But I don't worry.
03:34I don't have any interest in building an ashram or a temple.
03:43This is the house of my children, where I live.
03:47In my life, I will not build an ashram or a temple.
03:54Then why should I sacrifice myself?
03:57My children love me very much.
04:01They don't want me to be simple.
04:04The burden of simplicity has been placed on women.
04:09The burden of simplicity has been placed on women.
04:16The burden of simplicity has been placed on women.
04:22For example, the controversy of the miniskirt.
04:26There is nothing wrong in it.
04:29If other people do it, it is fine.
04:32But when it comes to women, we also face it.
04:36How do you navigate it, especially in the world of mythology?
04:41Our God is male-oriented.
04:45How do you navigate it?
04:49We are learners.
04:51Sita is our mother.
04:55Our mother adorned us.
04:57Mother Parvati adorned us.
04:59Radhe Rani adorned us.
05:02Adornment is a woman's jewellery.
05:05Even ordinary women should do it.
05:07I tell all the women to adorn themselves.
05:10Make your beloved happy.
05:12Be ready for your beloved.
05:14My beloved has chosen me for himself.
05:18So I adorn myself for him.
05:21I will adorn myself.
05:23I don't have to make devotees.
05:25I don't have to gather a crowd.
05:27I am very satisfied with what I have.
05:31I am very satisfied with my God and my devotees.
05:35For example, this trident.
05:38Everything is very symbolic.
05:42What is the symbolism of this trident?
05:45Do you always have it with you?
05:47You can say that it is a symbol of Radhe Maa.
05:53Everyone has seen me in this trident from the beginning.
05:57Any woman can wear red clothes.
06:00But if it is a trident, then you will know that it is Radhe Maa.
06:03When did you start wearing this trident?
06:05How did you decide to wear this trident?
06:08What is the symbol of this trident?
06:11When I had to wear new clothes.
06:13When I came in front of the public.
06:16Then we went to the shrine of Mata Chintpurni to bow our heads.
06:21From there, a priest gave me this trident.
06:24After that, I did not leave this trident.
06:27Then I wore this trident.
06:29Do you always have this trident with you?
06:31Yes, I always have it with me.
06:33Wearing red clothes is a different thing.
06:36Why do you have this trident?
06:38It is very gold.
06:40I like it.
06:42We do not do any such thing.
06:45We do not go against the law.
06:47We do not ask anything from anyone.
06:49We do not have any wrong money.
06:54It is also said that you do miracles.
06:57In the sense, people do believe.
06:59Has there ever been a miracle?
07:03There is a lot of ambiguity in it.
07:05What do you call this Kripa?
07:08It is said that those who believe in God,
07:13or those who believe in the Guru,
07:15then somehow or the other,
07:18their powers go to that devotee.
07:21One or the other person goes to that devotee.
07:23And Kripa is given to that devotee.
07:25You have been in Mumbai for almost 15 to 20 years.
07:32Your devotees come from different areas.
07:39What is the reason for the devotion of Radhe Ma in Mumbai?
07:45Her work is done.
07:47It is a Kripa.
07:49At our place, there is a Mata Choki.
07:52On top of that, everyone worships me as Guru Ma.
07:57When we wear our clothes and give it to others,
08:02our positive energy burns.
08:05Similarly, God has given me special powers.
08:12Whoever worships me with devotion,
08:15and prays to me,
08:17that Radhe Ma, do this miracle for me,
08:19do this Kripa for me.
08:21When I do this Kripa,
08:23my followers increase.
08:25It is in all India and foreign countries as well.
08:28What is the philosophy of Radhe Ma?
08:31What is the message of Radhe Ma?
08:33When there is a Satsang,
08:35or when devotees come,
08:37what message do you give them?
08:39My first message is,
08:41first of all, serve your parents.
08:44I mean,
08:46serve your parents.
08:48Because,
08:50first of all, serving your parents is important.
08:53Secondly,
08:55truth can be troublesome,
08:58but it cannot be defeated.
09:00Thirdly, truth is not equal to penance.
09:03Falsehood is equal to sin.
09:05Truth is in the heart, so let it be in the heart.
09:08A true person,
09:10who is honest,
09:12who works in his goal,
09:14in his business,
09:16with loyalty,
09:18can never fail.
09:20It is God's grace.
09:22There is a lot of science,
09:24a lot of rational explanations,
09:26a lot of things.
09:28People have a doubt.
09:30Like we came here,
09:32we had a doubt.
09:34I know, I know.
09:36I wanted to ask you,
09:38how do you read minds?
09:40How do you read minds?
09:42I have
09:44a power,
09:46given by God,
09:48because of which I catch
09:50the devotees.
09:52Look, some people come
09:54to ask for grace,
09:56some come to see.
09:58Those who come to ask for grace,
10:00some come to test.
10:02But before testing me,
10:04does anyone test how I am?
10:06And
10:08how am I?
10:10What is inside me?
10:12How honest am I?
10:14Before testing Radhe Ma,
10:16a person should test himself.
10:18How am I?
10:20How do I work?
10:22How do I teach someone?
10:24Ma never teaches.
10:26Even Mata can never teach anyone.
10:28And those who have a doubt,
10:30don't care.
10:32I am happy with my devotees.
10:34I am not inviting anyone to come to me.
10:36I meet those who come naturally.
10:38Can anyone come here?
10:40Hindu, Muslim?
10:42Yes.
10:44Ram Rahim Te Maula Ki
10:46Samaj Ajay Te Raula Ki
10:48All are one.
10:50I don't say anything to anyone.
10:52All kinds of people come.
10:54One more question.
10:56Like we came.
10:58You gave us a red dupatta.
11:00You gave a yellow dupatta to my friend.
11:02I said, go in the colors of devotion.
11:04When you go to take a test,
11:06don't look at it as a doubt.
11:08Look at it as a color of devotion.
11:10That's why,
11:12when this color comes up,
11:14then when you
11:16take the interview of the other person
11:18with love,
11:20then you will progress a lot.
11:22So the red color
11:24that you gave me,
11:26what does it mean?
11:28The color of devotion.
11:30And his yellow color?
11:32There is a lack of love.
11:34There is no love in it.
11:36And what is lacking in me?
11:38Emotional.
11:40How can it be less?
11:42It can't be less.
11:44That's good.
11:46He doesn't get love quickly.
11:48You have put love in him.
11:50I know.
11:52And to him?
11:54To whom?
11:56You have given him for protection.
11:58Which one?
12:00The one below?
12:02Yes, the one below.
12:04He is very kind.
12:06He wants to help people.
12:10Am I right or wrong, dear?
12:14He is from your state.
12:16Punjab.
12:18Okay.
12:20He wants me to help people.
12:22And the one who is standing behind him,
12:24you had called him before.
12:26He is also very nice.
12:28He is huge.