Operation Azm-e-Istehkam... DG ISPR Ki Breifing Ke Bad PTI Ka Kya Muaqqaf Hai? Jaaniye
Operation Azm-e-Istehkam... DG ISPR Ki Breifing Ke Bad PTI Ka Kya Muaqqaf Hai? Jaaniye
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00:00Ali, first of all, tell me, the court committee has just ended, so you tell me, today Afwad-e-Pakistan
00:06publicly defined what we mean by Azwa-e-Istehkam.
00:11This is not a Zarb-e-Azab type of operation. I won't repeat it.
00:15I have explained all those things in detail and run it as well.
00:17So, you tell me, the stance they have given today,
00:20has it given you some clarification?
00:23Some reservations have been lessened regarding your Azwa-e-Istehkam,
00:26that okay, sir, this is good, they have clarified it, and we know that this is good.
00:29Or, are the PTI's reservations about the Azwa-e-Istehkam better?
00:33First of all, you tell me.
00:35Thank you very much. In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
00:37Allahumma salli wa sallim wa barik ala Sayyidina Muhammad wa ala Ali Muhammad.
00:41In my opinion, DGISPR has made a clear-cut statement on Azwa-e-Istehkam today.
00:48If this had been done earlier, it would have been better.
00:51And more important than that was that when it came to Azwa-e-Istehkam,
00:56Defence Minister Khawaja Asif Sahib,
00:59when he comes to the Assembly, I don't know, people keep arguing,
01:02statements are made,
01:05if he had given a statement that this is not a full-fledged operation,
01:10this is an intelligence-based operation that is already going on in the whole country,
01:14and if the Defence Minister had told us that
01:19this would not be specifically Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
01:22it would be in the whole country,
01:23then I would have understood that there would not have been so much of a blowback.
01:25But I will also agree with my General Secretary, Umar Ayub Sahib,
01:31that this is a failure of the government.
01:33There are some things that the Defence Minister,
01:36the Information Minister and the Interior Minister of the government have to do,
01:40so that the Pak Army can be saved from unnecessary criticism.
01:44Okay, but Ali Sahib, the interesting thing about this is that DGISPR
01:47did not say anything new today,
01:49in fact, they themselves kept saying that I am not saying anything new.
01:52Look at this, they said on July 1st, maybe 24th or 26th or 22nd or 24th,
01:56that look at this, the first declaration was made by DGISPR,
01:58look at this, the second one, and they said that I am reading it again.
02:01And tell me, why is anyone taking an impression from this
02:04that this is a blowback operation?
02:07I remember very well, when it came to DGISPR,
02:11we called our Prime Minister, Ali Amin Khan,
02:14I am telling you in detail and calmly so that everyone understands it clearly.
02:18Ali Amin Khan was called to Islamabad by the parliamentary party,
02:23that you come and give a briefing to the parliamentary party of DGISPR.
02:28And in that, Barrister Gohar, the chairman, chaired it.
02:32Obviously, Khan Sahib, if Khan Sahib is not there, then Barrister Gohar does it.
02:35In that, Umar Ayyub Sahib was there,
02:36the former Speaker Asad Qaiser was there, and all of us were MNAs.
02:39In that, Ali Amin Khan said that I did not approve of any operation.
02:43I did not hear anything about a new operation, a large-scale military operation.
02:49Ali Amin Khan clarified this.
02:52We repeatedly raised this issue in the National Assembly,
02:56that you come here, the Defence Minister, or the Interior Minister,
03:00and you give a policy statement.
03:03And trust the National Assembly about what you are going to do.
03:06When they did not do it, it created a lot of confusion,
03:08and there was a reaction.
03:09Today, that confusion is over after the statement of DGISPR.
03:40If these things were discussed there, if the issues of the nation were discussed,
03:45if the government did its duty, if the government did its duty on time,
03:48I say that today DGISPR would not have to come and talk.
03:51But I would like to say one thing.
03:53DG Sahib, if you are listening to me,
03:55the army that you are a translator of,
03:57you are only a translator of it,
03:59it is our army.
04:01No one should have this misconception that in Pakistan,
04:06or any political party is against its institution.
04:08Yes.
04:09In Pakistan's politics, the role of an establishment,
04:12we are all concerned about that.
04:13We have always been.
04:14We are today.
04:15As long as we have that role, we will have it.
04:17But our nation is behind the army.
04:19Khan Sahib has also always said this.
04:21So this thing that has come from him,
04:23I am very surprised
04:25that a Pakistani citizen of Pakistan
04:27can terrorize his own army or his own country.
04:30Yes.
04:31The difference of opinion cannot be called terrorism now.
04:33No one has the right to call anyone a traitor.
04:36That is from the court,
04:37as long as the case is not heard.
04:39That is why I am saying,
04:40don't mix the difference of opinion with terrorism.
04:44DG Sahib, you are also against terrorism.
04:47Imran Khan is also against it.
04:48Ali is also there.
04:49Badami is also there.
04:50But the difference of opinion,
04:51millions of young people are against it.
04:53Ali Bhai, I completely agree with you.
04:55Now that you have played the Ghazal,
04:57I would like to add one thing to this.
04:59I want to ask that
05:00when the leadership of PML-N used to criticize like this,
05:03and the statements of DG-ISPR used to come from there,
05:06against Noon League,
05:07something like this,
05:08less strict or more strict,
05:09then Imran Khan Sahib is on record.
05:11He used to say that
05:12the army is not a democratic party
05:15in which there is no election.
05:16If you are talking against the army chief
05:18or against his opinion,
05:19then you are talking against the army
05:20and you are a traitor.
05:21What is wrong with this?
05:22What is going on in this?
05:23So you have to refute that opinion
05:25because you are saying that
05:26no party is against its army.
05:27It is just a difference of opinion.
05:29Because till yesterday,
05:30you used to interpret this as treachery.
05:34Look, there should be a completely stated position.
05:37And I think Mr. Khan also has it.
05:39I have always had it.
05:40You and all the people in the media,
05:43or I think,
05:44I have always seen one opinion,
05:46for the past 12 years or 11 years,
05:48since I have been in Parliament,
05:50that always this thing,
05:52most people,
05:53most people say,
05:54except I am not talking about Mashallah,
05:56that people should not be called traitors and disbelievers.
05:58Absolutely.
05:59People should not be called traitors.
06:00It is a difference of opinion.
06:03But I have a question here,
06:05and this is from the government of the time.
06:07The question from the government of the time is that,
06:09look,
06:10state organs are used.
06:12When you are silent,
06:15there is a question on the FIA,
06:17there is a question on the army,
06:18there is a question on the inter-services.
06:19Although the job of the government is
06:21that it owns its decisions
06:22so that it does not go to the institutions.
06:24You remain silent.
06:25What happened today,
06:26today,
06:27Rauf Hassan has been arrested.
06:29Our office,
06:30that is a separate thing,
06:31we will talk about that too.
06:32But someone tell me,
06:34Mr. Badami,
06:35someone tell me,
06:36at this time,
06:38there are lessons of the night.
06:39Women came to our office,
06:41they came from all over Pakistan,
06:43they came from Karachi,
06:45there is an issue of reserve seats,
06:46there is a center office,
06:48poor women also come,
06:50middle class also come,
06:51and with that,
06:52our minorities came from Karachi,
06:54from all over Pakistan,
06:55they were collecting their documents,
06:56you also picked them up.
06:58At 11.15,
06:59tell me this,
07:00the person who picked up these women,
07:02his mother and sister are safe,
07:04are these your mother and sister?
07:05No.