Kya Bani PTI Ke 190 Million Pound Case Par Asar Pare Ga ...

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00:00I am Mary Ameem and today's topic is Naftar Ameem is wrong but we have seen that Tariq Insaaf has also filed a complaint under the same law

00:08Apart from this, we will ask questions about his Jalsa and many other political questions.

00:12Rauf Hassan will be with us in the first part of the program.

00:15After that, the game of negotiations, meetings and politics has entered an interesting phase.

00:20Government allies and the opposition all say that talks should take place.

00:25We have seen that Chaudhary Shujaat has also become active in this regard.

00:27We will talk about this in the second part of the program.

00:29Underground water is becoming dangerous.

00:31By 2040, drinking water will be very less for the common people in Pakistan.

00:36The state will have to work on the basis of chaos.

00:39We will talk about this in the last part of the program.

00:41Let's start.

00:42Yesterday, a detailed decision of the Supreme Court was issued regarding Naftar Ameem.

00:45And as a result of that decision, we saw that Tariq Insaaf declared it as his moral victory.

00:49Although he said that legally he could not win his case.

00:54But he has won this case morally.

00:56Many leaders of Tariq Insaaf have also declared it as NRO 2.

01:02After this decision, the first reaction of Tariq Insaaf was NRO 2.

01:09Let's listen to it.

01:10Today's decision is basically NRO 2.

01:14When the PDM government came, they first changed it to NAB laws.

01:18The Supreme Court asked Mr. Khan, why are you against Naftar Ameem?

01:22If it is allowed, you will benefit.

01:24Mr. Khan said that he does not want a personal benefit.

01:27He wants the benefit of the whole nation.

01:30Today, we saw that Bani PTI has filed a complaint in the case of Naftar Ameem for £190 million.

01:38The complaint has been filed under the new law.

01:41During the hearing in Adiala Jail, the lawyer filed a copy of the Supreme Court decision on Naftar Ameem.

01:47The lawyer of Bani PTI said that a case of £190 million is not possible after the Supreme Court decision on Naftar Ameem.

01:55In Naftar Ameem, all the decisions of the Cabinet are secured.

01:59Bani PTI and Bushra Bibi were presented in the Court of Appeal.

02:02However, the Court issued a notice to the parties on the request.

02:05The case was closed on 10th December.

02:11Mr. Rao Fasan is with us in the first part of the program.

02:14He is the Secretary-General of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf.

02:16Thank you, Mr. Rao Fasan.

02:17First of all, let's start with Naftar Ameem.

02:20Today, you have asked for a bail.

02:22That is, after the decision was made, you said that since the decision has been made, this case is not possible.

02:30Till yesterday, you were claiming a moral victory.

02:33Then why did you request for a bail today?

02:36As Mr. Gaur said, it is a very relevant discussion.

02:42When we moved this petition against the new amendments, we had a contention.

02:48Even today, we have the same contention on the moral ground.

02:51People asked Mr. Khan, when you are getting a direct benefit from this, why are you opposing it?

02:57He replied, this is not a question of my personality.

03:00This is a question of the state.

03:01This is a question of the people.

03:02If you do not hold some people accountable for their corruption, then you should not hold the common people accountable.

03:10Leave them alone.

03:11Despite our efforts, the amendment has been reversed.

03:18Finally, the Supreme Court has done it.

03:20So, it has become a law.

03:22When it has become a law, then it is necessary that every citizen can use it.

03:27Is there NRO 2 or not?

03:29There was NRO 2.

03:30The people who wanted to take advantage of it, are taking advantage of it.

03:33Now, you are also taking advantage of this law.

03:36So, do you support NRO 2 or not?

03:39This NRO 2, in our context, we opposed it.

03:41What is the context?

03:42You opposed it.

03:43You said, this will not benefit my personality.

03:45But now that your personality is benefiting, you are supporting it.

03:48So, what is the difference?

03:49Because now, it has become the law of the country.

03:51After the Supreme Court decision, it has become the law of the country.

03:56Sir, moral victory is only when you say that the law has become the law.

03:59But still, because we do not believe in it, we do not want to take its help.

04:03You have a point.

04:05I completely concede.

04:06But now that the law has become the law, as much as there has been discussion on it,

04:09it is that the law of the country should be acceptable to everyone.

04:13Everyone should honour it.

04:14So, in its context, I think this decision has been taken that we should also gain its benefit.

04:18So, how do you define this decision?

04:22Is it a moral victory?

04:24Is it a legal defeat?

04:25We could not convince the Supreme Court on our point of view.

04:29So, you could not win legally.

04:30So, the last thing is that legally, we are not…

04:32And morally?

04:33So, because there is a law on morality, there is no morality in it.

04:36The law that has become the law of the country, it applies to everyone.

04:40It applies to me, it applies to you, it applies to everyone.

04:43Frankly, this is a little confusing for me.

04:45Because according to you, if this should not benefit your personality,

04:49then you should not…

04:51Let law take its course.

04:54You yourself are saying that because the law has been passed,

04:57then we should try in this case under its umbrella.

05:00That is very specific.

05:01It is like you are actually the beneficiary of this law now.

05:05Look, take another context.

05:08All these cases, our contention has been from the first day that these are fake and privileged cases.

05:13And this Toshakhana 2 and this case of 190 million pounds,

05:17these are also fake and privileged cases.

05:19Now, because a law has been made, right or wrong,

05:21if you ask me till now, frankly, this law should not be made in this way.

05:24It is a wrong law.

05:25I disagree with this.

05:27But because a law has been made,

05:29and if we get it,

05:31and Mr. Khan is completely illegally and unconstitutionally incarcerated.

05:36So, if we get it, and that is why we immediately said that we should get the benefit.

05:40So, it is a wrong law, but since it is being used politically, then it is fine.

05:44Not politically, but legally.

05:46Sir, it is legal and also political.

05:48If Mr. Khan gets rid of it, then it will also affect politics.

05:51It will affect politics, but it is not in a political context, it is in a legal context.

05:55Only in this context, it is legal.

05:57So, if under this law, for example, the People's Party, PMLN,

06:00or any other party related people ask for relief,

06:03that will also be fine.

06:04Now, a law has been made.

06:05So, it will be fine.

06:06Now, every common man will also…

06:09So, now it will not come in the same way in the NRO's sphere.

06:12When this law was made in the beginning, when they moved it, it was NRO, it was self-focused.

06:16The People's Party and PMLN got the most relief out of it.

06:20So, your initial complaint was that all this should be taken advantage of.

06:24It should not be done.

06:25So, don't make this law.

06:26Don't make this law.

06:27Don't reverse it.

06:28Reverse your amendments.

06:30That's why we fought and tried our best.

06:32Our lawyers tried their best.

06:33And now, incidentally, you are also a beneficiary of this law.

06:35If there is a law, there is a country, and we feel that it can give us benefit,

06:40then every lawmaker will do this.

06:42He will use every law so that he can get benefit for his client.

06:46So, this is the decision of our legal team.

06:47They have moved it.

06:48Okay.

06:49Let's move ahead a little.

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