BT & Sal are joined by David Wells who criticizes Joe Torre prompting a response from Brandon Tierney.
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00:00You still have the Babe Ruth hat, David?
00:02No, no, no. I got rid of that.
00:04Why?
00:05Like, 15, 16 years ago.
00:07Sold it?
00:08Because when I was in San Diego, yeah, we had a couple fires roaring through and we got evacuated and I didn't want a lot of my stuff to, you know, obviously perish in a fire.
00:17So I just said it's time to go. I kicked myself in the butt for letting it go now, but, you know, Babe Ruth's been very, very good to me.
00:24So it's alright.
00:27I mean, that was a moment that, how can anybody forget? You're wearing Babe Ruth's 15-year-old hat on the mountain.
00:32Okay, now let me ask you something here.
00:34Yeah.
00:35I got fined $2,500 for wearing that hat because Joe Torre didn't like it.
00:38Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
00:40You think that? And as big a fan as Joe was, where the Yankees, and knew a lot about history, why would he get so pissed off at me and fine me $2,500 for wearing Babe Ruth's hat?
00:52Yeah, I thought it was this guy.
00:55That's a great question, Dave, and I'm with you.
00:56I thought it was a little petty. I remember it well. I remember it well. I thought it was a little petty.
01:01But there is such a thing as, you know, conforming to the uniform there, Code.
01:04Dave, you know when you walk in a clubhouse, you got it on the wall what the uniform looks like. You didn't wear it.
01:10So, again, literally, you wore it.
01:12You know what?
01:13Joe's right.
01:14You would be a great manager for the Yankees right now, because you know what?
01:18What?
01:19You're a yes man.
01:20No, no, no, Dave.
01:23Dave, he's the opposite of me.
01:25I would flip that.
01:26No way.
01:27No, stop, Dave.
01:28Come on.
01:29I get on board all the time.
01:30You are a yes man.
01:31What?
01:32What?
01:33You're a yes man.
01:34Oh, come on.
01:35Listen.
01:36I mean, how am I going to shout?
01:37You say that.
01:38I'm just going to say that I'm not.
01:39I'm going to say that if you knew me, and by the way, your boy Cody knows me.
01:42Ask him.
01:43I was with him at a barbecue a couple of weeks.
01:45You can ask your boy Cody.
01:46We were talking about you.
01:47All good stuff.
01:48Ask Cody if I'm a yes man.
01:49I can promise you I'm not.
01:50Promise you.
01:51Okay.
01:52But you're going to criticize me earlier if I would have taken better care of myself,
01:55and you're defending Joe Torre, and now I just said that, and now you're flipping the
01:59switch here.
02:00No, no, I'm not.
02:01I got you.
02:02No, no, no, Dave.
02:03First of all, I'm not defending Joe Torre.
02:05I'm adding context, number one.
02:08Number two, I'm a fan.
02:11I just think, and that's what makes you such a fan favorite.
02:15You're very imperfect.
02:17I'm just illuminating some of the imperfections because we're having a good conversation.
02:20It's a good conversation.
02:21That's all.
02:22No, and I'm all for it.
02:23I think it's great because it is a good conversation.
02:26There you go.
02:27But to me, it's that I beat to my own drum, and it worked for me.
02:33I know it did.
02:34It doesn't work for everybody else, but it works for me.
02:36No doubt.
02:37So, I mean, why not go out your way?
02:39I mean, I'm going to play the game my way because as much as I got hammered in the minor
02:44leagues from Toronto, from Pat Gillick and all these guys, and getting just criticized
02:51and derailed by upper management and ownership and all that stuff, it puts a bad taste in
02:59your mouth.
03:00Yep.
03:01And so to me, it's like, I'm not going to take any of this crap.
03:03My mom told me three things when I was a little guy.
03:06She said, speak your mind, don't take any crap from anybody, and persevere.
03:10Well, you know what?
03:11I think I did three of those pretty well.