Kashif Abbasi ka Tariq Fazal Chaudhry say Sawal,Jawab Sun kar Zartaj Gul bhi Hans Parin

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Kashif Abbasi ka Tariq Fazal Chaudhry say Sawal,Jawab Sun kar Zartaj Gul bhi Hans Parin
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00:00Doctor, the special sessions that are going to be held to get justice for Tariq Tariq,
00:04today you have brought it into law that if a party is with another party,
00:08then if it goes to another party, then it cannot get a seat.
00:15What are you doing? Why don't you want to give them seats?
00:17Now, you have lost the legal battle, you didn't like the decision,
00:21but there is some morality in it. Let them have those seats.
00:24Of course, there is.
00:28One thing, just by saying a sentence, the report that Patan has given,
00:32that I have fought 4-5 elections for the National Assembly,
00:35the fact that the turnover was less here and more there,
00:39on this basis, the decision of the judiciary is never made.
00:42The rest of the questions, if there are any,
00:44If there is a 102% turnout, then it happens.
00:47No, the 102% turnout is not justified, but the 102% turnover,
00:52what is the reason for it, what are the facts behind it,
00:54all the documents, all the records have come to the Election Commission,
00:57it all comes to the forefront, it will come.
00:59The poor thing, the ROA of this year was sick,
01:03the new ROA has come, if you ask the old one,
01:05maybe he will tell you what happened.
01:06No, no, it's here, the old one is here, the new one is here,
01:08I don't know, I don't know if the new one has come or the old one has come,
01:11but whoever is here, the Election Commission is here, the record is here,
01:14it will all come to the forefront.
01:16The record has come to the forefront, the real problem is the record,
01:19people don't come to the forefront.
01:20No, no, people have also come.
01:21You change the law and say that the tribunal judge will not sit,
01:24the ex-judge will sit, let him run, let the milk and water flow.
01:29Brother, do you know that this clause that the judge will be a Hazard Service,
01:33he will retire, this was already present in the Election Act 2017.
01:37You put it in.
01:38I didn't put it in yet.
01:40You put it in before the last election of 2024.
01:43I put it out first.
01:44You put it out that there will be no retired judges,
01:46only Hazard Service judges will be there.
01:47Now you are saying that there will be no retired judges.
01:48This was already present in the Election Act 2017 for 3, 4 or 5 years.
01:52Why?
01:53It was present in the Election Act 2017.
01:54Why did you put it out?
01:55Because you saw that a retired judge does not make a decision,
01:57he has been sitting for 5 years,
01:59you said that there will be no retired judges, only sitting judges will be there.
02:01I am telling you that either we said it or someone else said it.
02:04But you didn't realize that there are 80,000 of them.
02:06You are not understanding what I am saying.
02:08I understand sir, you are not understanding what I am saying.
02:10You are just talking nonsense.
02:12No, I am just saying that we have restored it in its original state.
02:14We have not opened a new pot there.
02:16Now it is fine.
02:18We have restored the Act in its original state.
02:20This is one thing.
02:22The second thing is what you just said.
02:24So, you put on his clothes first and then you took off his clothes.
02:26No problem, let's go ahead.
02:28There is morality, there is morality,
02:30it should be there in politics,
02:32we are completely convinced of it.
02:34But,
02:36there are some laws of the Election Act,
02:38there are some laws of that too, right?
02:40Will you leave those and only make decisions on morality?
02:42Combine both and do it.
02:44Now, this article of yours,
02:46about the National Assembly,
02:48Article 51 of the Constitution,
02:50and about the Subahi Assembly, Article 106,
02:52it clearly says that if Azad wins an election,
02:54he will join the party in three days.
02:56Now, tell me, how can he do it in 15 days?
02:58And then,
03:00after joining the party,
03:02let me tell you one thing,
03:04no one sits in my mind
03:06because I don't know what will happen
03:08in the name of complete justice.
03:10Today, someone is happy,
03:12tomorrow someone else will be upset,
03:14I am saying this from my point of view.
03:16I agree with you.
03:18But,
03:20see, whether I like it or not,
03:22you criticize,
03:24I also think that in this decision,
03:26I have understood some minority decisions more.
03:28But,
03:30in the decision of the Chief Justice of Pakistan,
03:32it is also said that
03:34the Election Commission of Pakistan
03:36misinterpreted the Supreme Court's decision,
03:38misinterpreted it,
03:40a symbol was taken from the political party,
03:42but the political party was not terminated.
03:44Because it was not a political party,
03:46and the proceedings that are going on,
03:48the case that is going on,
03:50it is a continuation of the election process,
03:52that is why we can go that far.
03:54They have also given evidence,
03:56by the decision of Justice Mandokhil,
03:58Justice Qazi Faiz has agreed,
04:00they have also given evidence that
04:02we can see it completely.
04:04I think it would have been much better
04:06if the two articles that I have put in front of you,
04:08if you had asked the Parliament
04:10to make an amendment to it.
04:12It was possible,
04:14it could have been taken out.
04:16In that case, Mr. Tehreekian would have also been with us,
04:18together with the two-thirds majority,
04:20we could have made an amendment.
04:22Because without him,
04:24there could have been no amendment.
04:26Let alone any respect for the law,
04:28the Supreme Court can clarify
04:30their articles,
04:32but it cannot rewrite them.
04:34This is our position.
04:36Let's move ahead.
04:38You say that we will make amendments,
04:40tomorrow you will close the Supreme Court.
04:42No, no, we are not closing the Supreme Court.
04:44We have respected the decisions of the Supreme Court,
04:46we have accepted them,
04:48but we just say that
04:50whatever is written in the Constitution,
04:52it should be upheld.
04:54We are not saying that those seats are ours.
04:56But we are saying that if we are giving them,
04:58then under which law?
05:00We can ask the Parliament to make an amendment.
05:02But you cannot violate the Constitution.
05:04The Election Commission has done wrong.
05:06Look, the Election Commission,
05:08Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf,
05:10as a Jamaat,
05:12I am the President of my Jamaat,
05:14every year,
05:16we keep our accounts,
05:18if they are not kept,
05:20our registration is cancelled.
05:22Today, after five years,
05:24there is an election in our party,
05:26if it is not held,
05:28our registration is cancelled.
05:30This election cannot be held.
05:32Registration cancelling means that
05:34as a political party,
05:36you are not registered in the Election Commission.
05:38And the symbol is given to the one
05:40who is registered as a political party.
05:42This is why the Tehreek-e-Insaf
05:44did not get the symbol.
05:46Whether it was right or wrong,
05:48politically, that is a different interpretation.
05:50But technically,
05:52this is the reality.
05:54Sir, but they know that they have lost.
05:56No, we have not held them.
05:58I am telling you that our seats are not there.
06:00They will not let us take our seats.
06:02The thing is,
06:04we are not taking our seats,
06:06neither do we want them,
06:08nor do we say that they are our seats.
06:10But they have to give them,
06:12or they have to keep them vacant,
06:14these are the two options.
06:16If they have to give them,
06:18then they have to do it according to the law.
06:20Now the Supreme Court has said that
06:22the law has to decide whether you like it or not.
06:24You are equipping the Speaker,
06:26who has a sword in his hand,
06:28to clarify this decision.
06:30They have notified 49,
06:32and asked for a clarification of 41.
06:34They have asked for 41,
06:36but they have not clarified it.
06:38But the reason for that is,
06:40they say, what is the party structure?
06:42But when you write a letter,
06:44you write a letter to Barrister Gaur.

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