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00:00Merry Christmas.
00:01ALL TAKE TO THE STREET
00:04MUSIC PLAYS
00:13Ah. B.I.G Man, is he in show with Keegan?
00:17Not hate-wise, I'm talking...
00:19Tell him, you know. I wish he'd get his dominoes fixed.
00:21They'll take Queen Jack down this month.
00:24He's good, but it was so long for a million-pound man
00:26we could get ourself a proper team.
00:28It's the only chance we've got of staying in the First Division, I'm telling you.
00:31Who've had that?
00:32I don't know, Mr. Patterson.
00:34You're a good shot, aren't you?
00:36I'll just have a pint, Arthur, will you?
00:37Yeah, I'll get it, I'll get it.
00:38I'll come and show up to watch the telly.
00:40I'll do that indoors while I'm giving my daughter some.
00:43No, I want to watch this programme about AIDS.
00:47AIDS.
00:48AIDS, AIDS and yet more AIDS.
00:51I'm sick and dead of hearing about AIDS.
00:53Death, that's what we're talking about.
00:55Look, man, I've just finished this course called AIDS at Work.
00:59What, with your experience in international construction,
01:01you've been on an AIDS course?
01:03Oh, dear.
01:04You should be told you're ruining the globe, man.
01:07Building hooses and bonking birds.
01:09Have trouble, will trouble.
01:11Look, man, I've got to convince 70 bricklayers tomorrow
01:14they've got to watch out, watch what they're doing.
01:17Watch what?
01:18Them get the shirtlifters on the building site, man.
01:21Union wouldn't allow it.
01:22They get the drug addicts.
01:23Look, man, it's not just...
01:25It's not just homosexuals and drug addicts.
01:28AIDS affects everybody, right?
01:30Everybody.
01:31Who has sex.
01:33Babies in America, but not on Tyneside, man.
01:36They're not getting anywhere.
01:38I mean, they just recently got another blood death in Bakerman.
01:40Hey, people like you, you frighten me.
01:43How's that?
01:44Because you didn't listen to nobody.
01:46What are you talking about on there?
01:47I listen to what they do on there.
01:49What do you get on there?
01:50Doctors arguing against each other all the time.
01:52I mean, they don't even know where it comes from, do they?
01:55Let's just watch the telly, right?
01:56You might learn something.
01:58And then come over and give them a dodge.
01:59The strict answer is we don't know.
02:01We suspect.
02:02And we suspect that it came from a green monkey in central Africa
02:07that somehow the virus that we know is very likely AIDS virus,
02:10it's not exactly the same,
02:12transformed itself from a green monkey and got into mankind.
02:17From Africa, it's anybody's guess how it got into America, Haiti,
02:21North and South America.
02:23All we do know is that this is a new disease in the Western world,
02:26and the earliest specimen that we have as a positive looking backwards
02:31is the late 1950s from central Africa.
02:34That's the clue as to where it came from,
02:37plus this different virus in the green monkey.
02:39You have quite an interesting analogy about the spread of AIDS
02:43and the jumbo jet.
02:44Perhaps you'd like to elaborate on that.
02:46I think that if you look at the curves which are going up all the time
02:51for the number of people who have AIDS,
02:53it's rather like watching a jumbo jet taking off.
02:56Now, with the gay population who were hit first with this disease,
03:00the jumbo jet's well airborne.
03:02With the intravenous drug abusers,
03:04the jumbo jet has just taken off in this country,
03:07and with the heterosexual spread, it's still on the runway,
03:10but it's moving.
03:11We want to stop it before it takes off.
03:13That's the reason for the education campaign.
03:1750 years ago, we would have had no idea that we'd be sitting down here.
03:21But that's really hardly hypothetical figures, is it?
03:23I mean, don't forget, you know,
03:25we live in a place where there's 60 million punters in the UK.
03:28It's spreading. It's spreading. That's the point, right?
03:30And there's no cure.
03:32But what is it exactly? What is it?
03:34Because I don't even know what it is.
03:35I mean, are we talking about a germ or some sort of creepy crawly thing
03:39or a little bug or what is it?
03:41It's a bug, aye. It's a bug, right?
03:43AIDS stands for Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome, right?
03:47Well, that's got to mean a lot to the lads in the Gallagher there, doesn't it?
03:50It's not what it's called, man. It's what it does.
03:53It stops your body from fighting the other little bugs,
03:55and that's what normally kills you.
03:57Right.
03:58Just watch this, man.
04:00It's a remarkably simple and clever virus
04:03because it's so fragile outside the body and so easily destroyed,
04:08but once it gets into the body, once it's injected into the body,
04:11the difficulty is that it goes, it homes in on just the sort of cells
04:16which normally protect you against diseases,
04:18and it destroys those cells.
04:21And in doing so, it lets in other diseases.
04:23These are diseases which take the opportunity of the defence system being laid low.
04:28And once that happens, of course, we can treat some of those diseases,
04:32but we can't go on treating them time after time,
04:35and eventually the patient gets weaker and weaker and dies.
04:38See what I mean, eh? It's wicked, man.
04:40And there's no cure?
04:41Well, I haven't found one yet.
04:43Well, I'm half a little girl, man.
04:45There's nothing I can do about it.
04:46Well, of course there is.
04:47What? Well, what can I do about it?
04:49Make sure you don't get it.
04:51Well, how can I get it? I don't have anybody who's got it.
04:54So how can I get it?
04:55Look, that's the point, man. Nobody knows who's got it.
04:57So you've got to be dead careful.
04:59Well, I am. I'm very careful about things like that.
05:01He'll tell you about it.
05:02But I insist that's washed every time I get a refill.
05:04No, no, that's got nothing to do with it, man.
05:06You've got to be careful about sex, right?
05:09It doesn't matter if you're a man or if you're a woman, right?
05:12If you don't know what your partner's been up to,
05:14you're at risk.
05:16Well, you're not suggesting I go up to some tart in a bar
05:18with a fancy tapping up, do you?
05:20I'll be up and say, good evening, have you got any heads?
05:22And then you say no, and then you buy them a drink.
05:24I mean, that's going to scare them off quicker
05:26than wood halitosis would, man.
05:28You know what I mean, right?
05:29Just take sensible precautions, man.
05:31Oh, look, if everybody listened to the likes of you,
05:33man, the monasteries would be chocker.
05:35And I've never liked that mead.
05:36Oh, a sweet moment.
05:37Oh, wait, bollocks, then, bollocks, you know.
05:39I don't care.
05:40No, but look, I mean, what you're saying, what you're saying,
05:42I go into the bar, and I see a bird, what I fancy.
05:45So I kind of go up there and put the lips on her,
05:47because that's dodgy.
05:48I stand back 10 yards, because in case she breathes on us,
05:51because that may be dodgy.
05:52God knows what else is dodgy.
05:54I mean, we're not exactly tarting romance here, are we?
05:56Look, man, it's not like catching a cold, man, right?
05:59You kind of get it like that, right?
06:01It's hard to get.
06:02It's hard to get, right?
06:04You can only get it from body fluids, right?
06:07Like blood and semen.
06:09We have to get them fluids into your body to get AIDS.
06:13Just watch the telly, man.
06:14Complicated, innit?
06:16With diseases like AIDS, I mean, we don't.
06:19The majority of the population is completely safe.
06:22And I think that's important,
06:24because there's overwhelming evidence
06:27that there's no casual spread of this disease,
06:30either amongst households or institutions or schools,
06:33or amongst people working with animals,
06:35for instance, veterinary surgeons and people like this.
06:39There just isn't any spread,
06:41unless there's a very good reason for it.
06:43For instance, people who have accidentally inoculated themselves
06:48with a good dose of the particular virus.
06:52So things like swimming pools and public libraries and pubs
06:57and schools and workplaces, the food industry.
07:01Absolutely safe.
07:02Even if somebody working in them has got AIDS, it's safe.
07:05You can't spread the disease. It's got to be injected.
07:07Well, let's get down to the specifics.
07:09How can someone contract AIDS?
07:11Terribly easily.
07:12If they sleep with somebody who is infected in the first place
07:18and they don't protect intercourse.
07:20That's number one in our society at the moment.
07:23And it doesn't matter whether that person is straight or is gay.
07:27It can be transmitted from male to female,
07:30from female to male, or from male to male.
07:33If a female gets it, as we've said, the baby will get AIDS as well.
07:38That's number one.
07:39Secondly, if you fool around with needles in drug abuse,
07:44you share needles or you share mixing bowls or other equipment with somebody,
07:49then you will transmit the infection into them if you are already infected yourself.
07:55And the third way is the babies who are born to mums who are already infected.
08:00And that, perhaps, is the most tragic group of all.
08:04The dangers from things like blood transfusion are very, very remote indeed.
08:10And I think we have to stress that very forcefully
08:13because all blood, every donation is now screened
08:17for the antibody to the AIDS virus.
08:19And, of course, if it's positive, then the blood is rejected.
08:23One other fear which people may have is heavy petting or kissing.
08:27Can you contract AIDS that way?
08:30At my age, I have to think back to what heavy petting actually meant.
08:33But the kissing thing is something which comes out time and time again at public meetings.
08:39It's the number one question, I think.
08:41And we can say that there is no evidence at all that kissing transmits AIDS.
08:46And we've looked at families, at normal households.
08:49We've looked at institutions.
08:52We've looked at whole populations of people
08:55where we know that AIDS is only transmitted either through sexual intercourse or sharing of needles.
09:00You see, the virus has to be in a good concentration to be injected into somebody else's body.
09:08And that isn't true of saliva.
09:10The virus is present in all body fluids.
09:12And it's been estimated that you actually have to swap about half a pint of saliva,
09:18infected saliva, with somebody in order to infect them.
09:22Half a pint?
09:23People watch it.
09:24Even footballers don't knock a lot, would you?
09:27Tell you what, let's put it this way, right?
09:29Just supposing you had AIDS, right?
09:31Me?
09:32Just supposing you had AIDS.
09:33I'm not going to give it.
09:34If you did, I could kiss you, right?
09:36Could you?
09:37I could kiss you.
09:38I could use your knife and fork.
09:41I could sleep in the same bed.
09:43Sounds like Dusseldorf, lads.
09:45Right then, supposing one of the lads in the hut had got AIDS, right?
09:48It would have been Moxie, wouldn't it, because he was always there.
09:50Well, yeah, Moxie. Supposing Moxie had AIDS, right?
09:53Right.
09:54Now, we would all be all right.
09:55As long as we didn't use his razor.
09:57As long as we didn't use his... I'm lost here. Why?
10:00Well, look, man, it might have blood on it, right?
10:04All right, so I've got you.
10:06So if I had his shave and he had blood on his razor and then cut me and went into my...
10:10That's right, the blood.
10:11I've got it.
10:12Right.
10:13Talking of which, Claret,
10:15I had one of my infrequent visits to the dentist the other week.
10:18Oh, you been doing that lately?
10:19No.
10:20Should have seen the tackle he had on.
10:22Butcher's apron.
10:23Lone Ranger mask.
10:24Well, that's what I'm saying.
10:25Big rubber gloves.
10:26That's what I'm talking about, man.
10:27He's just being careful, isn't he?
10:29Because there's blood involved.
10:31What, that was all the tackle was on?
10:33Aye, the blood.
10:34Oh.
10:35I see.
10:36If it's that hard to catch, like what you said is,
10:39what are they making all the big fuss about if it's so hard to catch?
10:42Listen, man, I've told you, man, because it's spreading, right?
10:45And if we don't do something about it, millions of people will die.
10:48Millions?
10:49Millions of people are gonna die, right?
10:51They've got no cure, right?
10:53All they can do is try and stop it spreading.
10:56Aye, well, you should be telling them what's spreading it, shouldn't you?
10:59Aye, but look, man, the people who are spreading it didn't know they've got it, right?
11:04That's what I'm talking about.
11:06Well, only now you've got it.
11:08If you didn't know you've got it, when you've got it,
11:10only you'll find out whether you've got it or not.
11:12Blood test. You have to have a blood test.
11:15Look, he's talking about it there, isn't he?
11:18People watching this might suspect they have AIDS.
11:21What can they do to put their minds at rest?
11:24Well, the first thing to say is that most of the symptoms
11:27which occur in people who are developing AIDS
11:29are the sort of symptoms that occur with a cold or flu or anything else,
11:33what I feel like after outpatients,
11:35or you feel like after a particularly arduous newscast.
11:38So the message from that is very simple indeed.
11:40Go and get your doctor to sort it out.
11:42And the first port, of course, should be your family doctor.
11:45Now, if for some reason you find it difficult to go to talk to him,
11:48if, for instance, you live in a small community
11:50and you don't want people around the surgery to know,
11:53then the sexually transmitted disease clinics are geared up to counsel people
11:58and to talk to them.
12:00If they want this particular AIDS test, they can tell them what it means.
12:04And it's terribly important you don't just go along and have a blood test,
12:07because that's all the AIDS test is, taking blood out of the arm,
12:10and then a few days later you get the result.
12:12It means so much to know that you're positive
12:15because it will affect your whole future life.
12:17You know you're infectious to other people.
12:20You know that you will not get life insurance.
12:23You know that you won't get mortgage endowment.
12:25There are so many things.
12:27But above all, you know that you have an incurable infection
12:32for which there is yet no answer.
12:34And the question about whether or not you'll get AIDS is a big question.
12:38To know you're negative, the converse of the coin, of course, is marvellous to know.
12:43And it's because we know so many people who work in the health care industry
12:48are negative that we know there's no casual spread of the disease.
12:52So if you're worried, family doctor, sexually transmitted disease, clinics.
12:56If you don't want to go to them, then there are lots of voluntary organisations.
13:00And the main one in this country is the Terence Higgins Trust,
13:03which operates from London.
13:05And of course there are various health lines that have been set up
13:08in the different regions of the country.
13:10There's a wealth of care waiting there to help people.
13:14And if they're worried, they should go and seek it.
13:18If, for example, someone believes they may be carrying AIDS
13:22but they would be too embarrassed to go to a clinic and say,
13:25I think I've got AIDS.
13:27If they went along and said, I think I may have a sexually transmitted disease,
13:30would a routine check, if there is such a thing, for a sexually transmitted disease
13:34reveal that that person is carrying the AIDS virus?
13:36No. No doctor in the country would do the particular AIDS test just like that
13:41without counselling the patient first.
13:44Because the result, if it's positive, is so devastating to that person,
13:48whether it's male or female, that they must understand
13:51what they're getting into to have the test in the first place.
13:54So nobody's going to do that test as a one-off without informing them.
13:59The second thing to say is that for heaven's sake,
14:02if you're worried that you might be infected,
14:04don't turn up at the local blood transfusion service
14:06and think that you'll get the test and be screened out.
14:09That's a very dangerous thing to do indeed.
14:11You must go elsewhere to get the test done.
14:1450 years ago, we would have had no idea that we'd be sitting down here
14:18talking like this about such a worrying, massively frightening problem.
14:22How do we know that in 50 years' time a journalist won't be interviewing a doctor
14:27and we're talking about people wearing masks because AIDS can spread like the flu virus?
14:32How do we know that won't happen?
14:34Viruses don't change like that.
14:36Just think of your own experience.
14:38You've been up through lots of other diseases.
14:40Poliomyelitis, for instance.
14:42AIDS is nothing like that disease at all.
14:45It doesn't spread through droplets.
14:47We've got all the evidence.
14:49We've got more evidence than any other disease in the history
14:52in a short period of time to say that AIDS doesn't spread like that.
14:56There's no fear of it at all.
14:58If we thought there was worry, then we'd be wearing masks all the time.
15:02In fact, we wear masks in hospital when we're looking after AIDS patients,
15:05not because we're frightened that we'll pick up AIDS or another disease from them,
15:09but to protect them from the sort of diseases, the coughs and colds,
15:12and things that we carry around.
15:14So we're very confident indeed,
15:16and there's overwhelming evidence that AIDS does not spread in that way.
15:22You see, people got the wrong idea to start with.
15:25That'll be your gut to press, that.
15:27We've got a lot to answer for you now.
15:29Fair enough, right, but it was drug addicts and homosexuals
15:32that were first affected, right?
15:34But they know all about it now.
15:36I mean, they have blood tests.
15:38It's up to us to catch them up.
15:41Aye, but, I mean, from what you're saying, it's obviously pretty hard.
15:44You've got to be pretty unlucky to cop it, haven't you?
15:46And, I mean, it's not that I'm a bonk in every knee, you know.
15:49I mean, you've got to have the odd knee up to get pissed.
15:51It takes once, right, just once, one encounter,
15:54for a man or a woman, and you can catch it.
15:56Then you can spread it yourself, eh?
15:59When was the last time you were away from home?
16:02Huh? Er...
16:04Oh, by the time the youngs are going, I've been on the Nat King Court.
16:07Well, canny well.
16:09Oh, which reminds me, I'm going to London next week with a job.
16:12So, fingers crossed.
16:14Right, supposing, like, next week, right, you're in London,
16:16supposing you're in a bar, and you get fixed up with this tart at the bar, right?
16:20Aye, now, you kind of help yourself, can't you, right?
16:22No, but I've always been very choosy.
16:24Well, choosy, man, that's not the point.
16:26She might be a prostitute with AIDS.
16:29I mean, even if she's not, even if she's not on the game,
16:31she could still have AIDS.
16:33I mean, you know, she might be daft as you are.
16:35She might not care.
16:37I mean, how come she doesn't know that you might have AIDS?
16:40Oh, thank you very much indeed.
16:42It's true, though, isn't it, man? It's true.
16:45Look, you heard that story about the bloke who woke up in the morning
16:48and written on the mirror was,
16:50Welcome to the AIDS club.
16:52Yeah.
16:55It's Dr Jones, isn't it?
16:57It's Dr Jones. He's the one who took me course.
16:59He's straightened you out.
17:01He's straightened you out, man.
17:03He can remember a pain. I don't want to be straightened out.
17:05Excuse me, Dr Jones.
17:07I thought you were on the course with him.
17:09Excuse me, this is my friend Oz.
17:11This is Dr Jones.
17:13Hello, Doctor.
17:15He's been watching your programme,
17:17but I still can't persuade him that he's got to watch what he's doing.
17:19No, look, man, look, it's not...
17:21Look, you've come in, actually.
17:23You've come in halfway through a conversation, Doctor,
17:25but I'll just quickly tell you.
17:27He's given me the whole nine yards about this AIDS business, right,
17:30which I'm not going to get.
17:32No, and I'm saying to him, I'm going to London next week
17:34about a job concerning work,
17:36and he's saying to me, you've got to be careful what you do
17:38or else you may catch AIDS, which I'm not going to catch.
17:41Yes, and you may bring it back and give it to your lass.
17:44And that's how it spreads.
17:46I'll get me own bottle of milk, man, eh?
17:48Oh, just shut up, man, will you?
17:50Just shut up, man, will you?
17:52Will you just try and be sensible for once and listen to the doctor?
17:54Well, I'm not...
17:56Can you explain any better than what he can?
17:58Cos I can't make any deal of this.
18:00What's your problem? Can I help you?
18:02Well, there's one thing I kind of puzzled out.
18:05Well, from what he's been saying, just a matter of interest.
18:08Er...
18:10You were saying before that you can only get it through blood and semen,
18:13body fluids, which is what you said, wasn't it?
18:15Yep. Right.
18:17Well, I think I can take that in.
18:19A bloke could give it to a woman in the obvious way.
18:22I can understand how a bloke could give it to another bloke in the...
18:25Well, we're all men of the world here, I think.
18:27Not that I'd be up to that at all, but I can understand it.
18:30And I can understand the way you can get it through jabbing a needle in your arm
18:33because there's blood, you know, going into your bloodstream again.
18:37But I can't quite...
18:39I don't even consider myself particularly thick in this respect,
18:42but I can't quite see... Thank you.
18:44I can't quite see how a woman can give it to a man
18:48because... I don't know what the technical term is,
18:51but it's one way of traffic when you're in there, isn't it?
18:54There's no other way, is there?
18:56If you think about it, when you're having sex,
18:58everything's engorged with blood, isn't it?
19:00You're dealing with delicate tissue,
19:02so it's perfect for bugs to go either way.
19:04It's not one-way traffic, it's two-way traffic.
19:07So...
19:09What, like, when you're gun-hammering tongs,
19:12it can just seep both ways?
19:14All you've got to remember is wear a condom, right?
19:17Wear a what?
19:19A sheath, right? A johnny, you know?
19:22A blob! A blob, great guy!
19:24A blob! Just put a blob on!
19:26That's what I've got to tell the lads at Wortham, isn't it, man?
19:29I kind of wear one of them.
19:31Have you ever worn one? Have you ever...
19:33No, well, you haven't worn one, obviously,
19:35but take it from me, they're pretty monkeys.
19:37I mean, that's why I had to snip originally, you know,
19:40cos of them, I couldn't get away with them.
19:42I mean, poor, crusty man.
19:44I mean, you're not suggesting...
19:46If I'm looking up to score some nice-looking tart next week
19:49and I get on the pit and the moment the truth comes,
19:52I'll turn around and say,
19:54"'Scuse me, love, just one second.
19:56"'I'm just going to lob over
19:58"'and pull this dirty, stinking rubber thing on
20:00"'and just whistle a couple of bars of bird news
20:02"'and then I'll be right with you, you know."
20:04OK, well...
20:06Listen, if she's got any sense,
20:08she'll make you wear a condom.
20:10She'll make me wear a condom?
20:12That'll be the deal.
20:14A snip doesn't protect you.
20:16Does not? Nah.
20:18And if she's on the pill, that'll not protect her.
20:20The only thing that'll protect you,
20:22if you've got to have sex with somebody you don't know and trust,
20:26is a condom.
20:28So, what you're saying there is,
20:30wear a condom and you can keep on trucking, yeah?
20:33That's simple.
20:35Look, Bart, you've just got to remember, right,
20:37just practise safe sex, man.
20:39Just listen, you know.
20:41If you don't have sex, and if you don't know the person, right,
20:44give and have sex with them.
20:46Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
20:48You're so like the Pope, man!
20:50Give and have sex with...
20:52I'm super, man, I'm only a man.
20:54Well, look, man, just think back, right,
20:56just think back to when you were a teenager, right,
20:58you know, behind the bike sheds and all that,
21:00you know, just touchies and all that.
21:02What, touchies but naïve all the way?
21:04Yeah, you know what I mean.
21:06Right, so a GR, then, that sort of thing's all right.
21:09Yeah, but some forms of foreplay could be dangerous, couldn't it?
21:14It's very simple.
21:16You can touch and you can hug and you can feel.
21:19Yeah.
21:20You can kiss people, that's all safe.
21:22All you've got to remember is that blood and semen are infectious.
21:27So if you introduce blood or semen from somebody infected into your body,
21:33or if you're infected and you inject blood or semen
21:37into somebody else's body,
21:39that's the way that AIDS spreads.
21:41Remember it. Injection, infection.
21:44Injected means infected.
21:46Injected means infected, that's...
21:48You just dash that one off the centre, Norman Fowler, and...
21:51Listen, man, look, man, just...
21:53Injected means infected.
21:54Just listen to the doctor, will you, man?
21:56I mean, if I can't persuade you now, right,
21:58what chance have I got with 70 bricklayers tomorrow?
22:01I'm listening, aren't I?
22:02I'm trying to ask pertinent questions, aren't I?
22:05I mean, er...
22:07Well, er...
22:09How do you die from it, for instance, doctor?
22:12Well, you can get cancer.
22:14Cancer can kill you.
22:15You can get cancer from it?
22:16Yes, you can.
22:18And it can infect the brain.
22:20Can it?
22:21Yeah.
22:22If it infects the brain, you...
22:24You get dementia.
22:26You see young people starting to grow old very early.
22:29What, like senile dementia?
22:31So you get, like, doolally really quickly?
22:33Just like senile dementia, yeah.
22:35But only young?
22:36Yeah.
22:37And you get the big cyst, so it's obviously, er...
22:40quite painful.
22:41I mean, I was of a mind that there wasn't any pain involved.
22:44I thought you just snuffed it, and that was that.
22:46It can be painful.
22:47Not just for you, but for your family, obviously,
22:50and your friends.
22:52Yes, but you...
22:53All right, all right.
22:54Well...
22:55Well, how long does it...
22:56How long can it lie inside you
22:58before it sort of manifests itself, so to speak?
23:01Well, once you've got it in there, it's in there for life.
23:04And at the moment, we know at least 14 years
23:07between getting infected and actually getting AIDS.
23:10Might be longer than that, though.
23:12You can get AIDS in three months, five years, 14 years.
23:15But what you've got to remember is that all that time
23:18you're infectious to other people,
23:20even though you might feel completely and absolutely well
23:23and look well.
23:251981.
23:26So you could have a jump in 1981, theoretically,
23:29and it could be 1995 when it comes to a head, is it?
23:35Or else sooner.
23:37Right.
23:38Take a time bomb, you know, when it's going to go off.
23:41But you can't pass it only to your kids, I know, can you?
23:44Well, look, there's only three ways in which you can catch AIDS.
23:47Yeah.
23:48Sexually, with somebody who's infected.
23:51Sharing needles with somebody who's infected.
23:54Or if a lass is infected and she gets pregnant,
23:58then her band is likely to get infected as well.
24:02Very likely to get AIDS and die.
24:06So they're kicked and die.
24:08That's bloody awful.
24:11I think I'm ready for a drink.
24:13Do you want a drink?
24:15You ain't insured us from it, is it?
24:17Not bloody likely. I'll have a pint of bitter, please.
24:20A pint of bitter, right.
24:22Backstop.
24:24Too long on a bitter.
24:27And give us some change of that with that machine you've got in the bog.
24:30I'm sorry, Osler, but I think you'll find it's empty.
24:33It's been in great demand, you know.
24:35You'll just have to tie a knot in it, won't you?
24:37No, man.
24:38This is a matter of life and death.
25:26THE END