War Thunder International Tank Tech Tree - Australia! - video Dailymotion

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In this episode I take a look at Australian vehicles that I think could be added into War Thunder as part of an International, Commonwealth or British tank tech tree.  Vehicles in this episode: Introduction: 00:00 Australian armoured history: 00:36 AC1/AC2 Sentinel Tank: 02:05 AC3 Sentinel Tank: 03:54 AC 4 “Thunderbolt": 04:30 Yeramba: 08:28 Rhino Heavy Armoured Car: 10:33 Australian events: 12:18 Conclusion: 10:32  International Tank Tech Tree series Argentinian Tanks: https://youtu.be/Z6p0kXANlrI Austrian Tanks: https://youtu.be/cha99aucLPY Australian Tanks: https://youtu.be/Z-P0xkdHQZQ Belgian Tanks: https://youtu.be/IPUmZ1TFaIs Canadian Tanks: https://youtu.be/dlkyfIcukqs Czechoslovakian Tanks: https://youtu.be/OgGtRi07OIM Egyptian Tanks: https://youtu.be/TXeQki7i854 Finnish Tanks: https://youtu.be/1SzQl9kRQiE  Sources: Weapons of World War II  Hoggs, I.V. and Weeks, J. (1980) The Illustrated Encyclopaedia of Military Vehicles. London, Quarto Publishing Limited, Page 45  Haskew.M.E. (2008) Artillery: Compared and Contrasted. 1st ed. London: Amber Books LTD. Page 121  Social Media ⬇️ Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/toreno.bsky.social Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/Toreno4 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/toreno170 Mastodon: Toreno17@mastodon.social Threads: https://www.threads.net/@toreno170 Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Toreno17 Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/toreno5/videos   Game: War Thunder  ⬅️  #warthunder #australia #australian #sentinel #yeramba #rhino #tank #toreno

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00:00Hello everybody, Tereno here, and welcome back to another episode of my International Tank Tech Tree series.

00:05In the last episode we dealt with Argentina. Since then I've done a bit of a reworking of the tech tree.

00:13Only a few minor changes and one extra vehicle. Today we're looking at Australia.

00:18Some of you who may have watched my British Tank Tech Tree series will probably realise I've already looked at Australia.

00:24But I think Australia could also go in the International Tank Tech Tree as well.

00:29I'll leave a link to the original episode where I dealt with Australia in the British Tank Tech Tree series.

00:35Now just to give a little background of Australia during World War 2.

00:39Quoting from one of my books, World War 2 the Directory of Weapons.

00:43In 1939 Australia's armed forces had virtually no modern tanks and lacked almost any form of heavy engineering background to produce them.

00:51Even an automobile industry was lacking. So not exactly the obvious choice for building tanks.

00:57But there are a few tanks and armoured vehicles on here.

01:01And Australia did come up with some very good designs during the war.

01:05Australia of course was on the side of the Allies during World War 2.

01:09And after the war they were generally aligned with the Western nations.

01:14During the war they fought in all of the theatres. European, North African, Pacific.

01:20But when it came to the Pacific they did have to rely on themselves a little bit.

01:24Because obviously America had just been involved in Pearl Harbour.

01:28And it was going to take a while for America to come to Australia's aid.

01:32Britain was across the other side of the world and tied down with the Germans.

01:36So they had to rely on their own designs a little bit.

01:39And they did come up with some very good designs.

01:44One other thing I should just really quickly mention.

01:48You may notice my voice changing a little bit in the video. Or the audio quality.

01:52Basically I started recording this yesterday when I was a bit under the weather.

01:56It shouldn't affect the video but just if my voice changes halfway through the video that's why.

02:01But without any further ado let's get straight into the episode.

02:05Now the first Australian tank we're looking at is the cruiser tank Sentinel.

02:09Which came in a few different variants. The AC1, 3 and 4.

02:13I'll explain in a minute why there isn't an AC2.

02:16Basically Japan needed to get lots of modern equipment. They didn't have any modern tanks.

02:21And again quoting from my book.

02:23As there was no local expertise on the subject of tanks.

02:26One engineer was sent to the United States.

02:28And an experienced engineer was obtained from the United Kingdom.

02:31So with just two engineers, not much in the way of industry capable of even producing the tanks.

02:36Australia went to design a tank.

02:39And it actually turned out very well.

02:41The AC1, Australia cruiser 1, had a 2 pounder gun.

02:45Two 7.7mm Sheen guns.

02:48All cast hull.

02:49Which was pretty impressive. I think that was actually quite rare back then.

02:52The armour was something like 25-65mm.

02:55And it had three Cadillac car engines joined together.

02:59Which gave it a maximum speed of 30 miles an hour.

03:02Which is pretty good.

03:04It only took 22 months to produce.

03:07From paperwork to actually prototypes.

03:10Which was even more impressive because again quoting from my book.

03:14All the facilities to build the tank had to be developed even as the tanks were being built.

03:18So they were developing the factories and the tanks at the same time.

03:21And it was a pretty good tank for 1942.

03:24Maybe a little bit behind on the gun.

03:27But for a first attempt it's very good.

03:29Now around this time another model was proposed.

03:33The AC2.

03:34But by late 1941 Japan was starting to get quite aggressive.

03:38Pearl Harbour happened.

03:39So Australia decided to just focus on one tank.

03:42Because there was a real fear that Australia could be invaded.

03:45Things were quite desperate back then.

03:48So they had to get some sort of tank produced very very quick.

03:51So they just focused on the AC1.

03:53Once the AC1 was produced they did realise it wasn't going to be all that good for long.

03:58It was going to become obsolete quite quickly.

04:00So they decided to produce another model.

04:03The AC3.

04:04Which had a 25 pounder gun in the turret.

04:07The 25 pounder gun is actually an artillery gun if I'm correct.

04:1187.6mm field gun.

04:14I'm not sure what the anti-armour effect of it is.

04:18But I'm assuming that must be pretty big.

04:20I mean it's the same calibre as the German anti-aircraft gun.

04:23It must have a decent high explosive projectile.

04:27Or armour piercing projectile.

04:29But after this they did realise it wasn't going to be that good against armour.

04:33Obviously they hadn't seen the armour of Japanese tanks.

04:36So they produced the Sentinel AC4.

04:38Which was a prototype fitted with the 17 pounder.

04:41This was mid 1943.

04:43So I think it was the first Allied tank to get a 17 pounder gun.

04:47But apparently at first they didn't have a 17 pounder gun to put on the tank.

04:52To see if it could take the 17 pounder gun.

04:54So they strapped two 25 pound guns onto the turret.

04:57And fired them to see how the recoil would be.

05:00Apparently this exceeded the recoil of the 17 pounder.

05:02Presumably it was successful because they went and fitted a prototype with the 17 pounder.

05:06And you know it was a very good tank.

05:08I think it would have been an excellent tank.

05:10Especially in mid 1943.

05:12With the decent armour and the 17 pounder gun.

05:15It was probably better than all the other Allied tanks around at the time.

05:18Maybe a bit hyperbole.

05:20But you know it was a very good tank.

05:22But by this point Shermans were being produced in massive numbers.

05:25So there was enough to equip Australia and all the other Allies with Sherman tanks.

05:29So the industry was needed for other more important stuff.

05:34And so the Sentinel projects were shelved more or less.

05:37You know they were used as training tanks and prop tanks in a movie.

05:41I think it was Rats of Tobruk or something.

05:43It's a shame the Sentinel tanks weren't produced in large numbers.

05:46I think they should have really been produced in Britain.

05:49A quote from one of my other books.

05:51The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Military Vehicles.

05:53Which in return is quoting from a 1946 report of the Select Committee for National Expenditure in Britain.

06:01No tank produced in 1943 was worthy of action.

06:04While those manufactured earlier were inferior both technically and tactically to German tanks.

06:09That's describing British tanks.

06:11So I think this would have been a very good tank if produced in Britain.

06:14You know with a production license or something like that.

06:18But you know they were still very good tanks.

06:21I think they'd be very good in War Thunder.

06:23Now where would I actually put the Sentinel tanks in War Thunder?

06:27Tiering wise I'd put the Sentinel AC-1 in the light tank line at tier 2.

06:32The AC-3 and 4 I'd put in the medium heavy tank line.

06:36The AC-3 at tier 3 and the AC-4 at tier 4.

06:40The AC-3 probably could go in the self propelled gun line.

06:43But it seems more like a tank than a self propelled gun if I'm honest.

06:47Battle rating wise.

06:49The Sentinel AC-1 I'd probably put 2.3 to 2.7.

06:55Because it's got very good armour.

06:57But the gun isn't all that great if I'm honest.

06:59So you know that's going to bring it down quite a bit.

07:02For the AC-3 with the 25 pounder.

07:04I couldn't really find many penetration figures for it.

07:07The only figures I could find were something like 17mm at 400 yards.

07:11Which is about 400 metres.

07:13Which is similar to the KV-1 with the CIS-5 gun.

07:17Which is battle rating 4.7.

07:20So probably about 4.7.

07:23Somewhere between 4.3 to 5 really.

07:264.7 being the middle point.

07:29Although without better statistics or figures.

07:33It's a bit hard to get a reliable battle rating.

07:36Thankfully the AC-4 is a bit easier to deal with.

07:39Because one of my books.

07:41Artillery compared and contrasted.

07:43Has some figures for the 17 pounder.

07:45Apparently it can penetrate 130mm at 915 metres or 1000 yards.

07:51Doesn't say what ammunition that's with.

07:53And I'm pretty sure there's one type of ammunition.

07:55That can penetrate like 200mm at that range.

07:58But with the stock ammunition or the figures given in the book.

08:02That would probably put it around tier 4.

08:05Like I've listed it in the tech tree.

08:08And probably about rating 5.7 to 6 around there.

08:12I think that's a fair place for it to be added.

08:14On the tech tree.

08:15And I hope these can be added into the game.

08:17They're very good tanks.

08:19And hopefully we will see them in the international tech tree.

08:21Or British tech tree.

08:23Depending on how Gaijin wants to do things.

08:25But I think they should definitely be added.

08:27Now the next vehicle on our list.

08:29Is an Australian self-propelled gun.

08:31The Yeramba.

08:33I do apologise if I've mispronounced it.

08:35Basically the Australians took an M3 Grunt.

08:39And converted it to a self-propelled gun.

08:42Which had a 25 pounder gun mounted on it.

08:45But this was done in 1950.

08:48Which is why we've got one of those weird situations again.

08:51Because it's got the 25 pounder gun.

08:53Which isn't exactly tier 5 material.

08:55So I've put it at tier 3.

08:57Which helps to fill out tier 3.

08:59Thankfully for me.

09:01I've bolded and underlined it.

09:03Because I'm not sure whether it should go there.

09:05Or if it should even be added.

09:07Let's look at the stats first.

09:09It's got the 25 pounder gun.

09:11Which again I've only got some figures for.

09:13Something like 70mm penetration at 400m.

09:16That's the only figure I can find online.

09:19And on my books list any figures.

09:21There was also two 7.7mm Bren machine guns.

09:25It had something like 38mm of armour.

09:28Which, you know, is ok.

09:31But not great.

09:33And it could do about 25mph.

09:35And it had 6 crew.

09:37A commander, driver and 4 gun crew.

09:39Like I mentioned it was put into service in 1950.

09:42Which is where the difficulties come from.

09:44Because like I said it's not really tier 5 material.

09:47But it's a post war tank.

09:49But I think the best place to put it would be tier 3.

09:52And battle rating wise.

09:54It should be able to do with most of the early Panzer IV's.

09:57But it will struggle against the Panthers and Tigers.

10:00So probably around 4.7 to 5 battle rating.

10:03That's really the fairest place I can think of it.

10:06At the moment.

10:08And like I said I bolded and underlined it.

10:10Because it may not even be a good fit for the game in general.

10:13But, you know, it would be nice to see it added.

10:16You know, one more Australian vehicle into the international tech tree.

10:20Or British tech tree again.

10:22Depending on how Gaijin does it.

10:24You know, I thought it would be nice to at least let you know it existed.

10:27So it would be nice if it could be added.

10:29But I can understand why Gaijin might decide not to add it.

10:32Now the next and last vehicle on that list.

10:35I wasn't sure whether to add at all.

10:37It's the Rhino Heavy Armoured Car.

10:39Now I've put it as a premium.

10:41Though it could theoretically go in the armoured car line up.

10:45But the reason I put it in premium is because it was a prototype.

10:48Only one or two were actually built.

10:50Basically it's an armoured car.

10:52Which is armed with a two pounder gun.

10:54The 40mm gun.

10:56It's got 30mm of armour.

10:58I'm not really sure what the speed is.

11:00I can't really find any information on it online.

11:03None of my books have it listed.

11:05Apparently it had four crew.

11:07A commander, driver, gunner and loader.

11:09So where would this go in War Thunder?

11:11Like I've said already, I've put it in the premium line up.

11:14Though it could go in the armoured cars line up.

11:16I've put it at tier 2.

11:18Battle rating wise, well it's got the two pounder gun.

11:21Which according to my book, World War 2 the Directory of Weapons.

11:24It has armour penetration of 53mm at 450m.

11:29Now this is about the same as the Panzer III J.

11:33The early model.

11:35It's slightly better than the T-50 I believe.

11:38And slightly inferior to the M5A1 Stuart.

11:43Though only by a little bit.

11:45So they're all about 2.3 to 2.7.

11:48So I think that would be the best place for the Rhino heavy armoured car.

11:52About 2.3 to 2.7.

11:54You know, it's got decent armour for an armoured car.

11:57It's got a good gun.

11:59And well, I think it would be a nice little armoured car to have in the game.

12:02Like I said, I've put it in the premium line up.

12:04Because it was a prototype that was only built in one or two numbers.

12:07But I think it would be nice to have in the game.

12:10Or you know, in International Tank Tech Tree.

12:12Or British Tech Tree.

12:14Depending how good I can do it.

12:16But you know, it would be nice to see it in the game.

12:18So now that we've looked at the potential vehicles Australia could bring to the International Tank Tech Tree.

12:24Where would Australia fit into the game itself?

12:26With regards to events and realistic and simulated battles.

12:29The most obvious event I could think of is Japan actually invading Australia.

12:34And Australia having to fight back and defend itself with possible allied support.

12:39That would give an excuse to have the tanks into the game.

12:42Because obviously with Japan invading they would actually start producing them.

12:46You could also do maybe events like the Sentinel actually being put into mass production.

12:52Or some of the other vehicles put into mass production.

12:54Maybe being involved in the invasion of Japan.

12:58I suppose another event you could do is all the Western aligned nations against all the communist nations.

13:03And a Cold War gone hot type situation.

13:06Or maybe even a resurgent China rising up and invading all its neighbours.

13:10I know some of these ideas are a little bit far-fetched.

13:13But we have got some far-fetched ideas already.

13:16You know, Britain and America versus Russia in the Crimea for example.

13:20But you know, Australia could be a good fit for the realistic and simulated battle events.

13:26And there are some good alternate reality events that could be added into the game with Australia.

13:31So that's it for today's episode. I hope you enjoyed it.

13:35I will be a little bit busy for the next month or so because of exams coming up.

13:39But I will be trying to get some of these out at least once or twice a week.

13:43These sorts of episodes.

13:45They'll probably be a bit shorter than my usual videos.

13:48But I'll try and get something out there.

13:50But as usual, leave likes and subscribe.

13:53Leave feedback. Could always do with more feedback.

13:56Whether about the video or the tech tree.

13:59Thanks for watching. Hope you enjoyed the video.

14:01And I'll see you next time.

War Thunder International Tank Tech Tree - Australia!

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