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PTI Jalsa Mansookh Kiyu Karwaya Gaya? Barriester Aqeel Malik's Analysis
PTI Jalsa Mansookh Kiyu Karwaya Gaya? Barriester Aqeel Malik's Analysis
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00:00Heavy, massive arrests have taken place.
00:06Is there any truth in this?
00:09Because this time it was 144.
00:11People still wanted to come.
00:13Some people wanted to come.
00:14Some people practiced restraint.
00:18Will this kind of heavy handedness
00:21lower the political temperature?
00:24Or do you want to take it further up?
00:27Anika, thank you very much.
00:28First of all, it is not in my knowledge
00:31that there have been heavy arrests.
00:36And if there have been any today,
00:38that's the first thing.
00:39The second thing,
00:40and he's talking about the Lahore area,
00:41so that obviously pertains to Punjab.
00:43As far as he talked,
00:45you also mentioned that this time it was 144.
00:48Obviously, it was 144 because
00:51here, at the moment,
00:53the NOC cancellation that took place,
00:55it was clearly stated
00:57and reasons were given.
00:58This is why your NOC is being cancelled.
01:00The team from Bangladesh,
01:01Pakistan has also come.
01:02Today, there was a cricket match.
01:04Secondly, the most important issue is
01:06that there was a very sensitive case in the Supreme Court.
01:09And you saw two days ago
01:11that a religious group
01:14that people had connections with,
01:16they came outside the Supreme Court
01:19and tried to protest.
01:21We are putting everybody's life at risk.
01:25Look at the sensitivity of the matter.
01:27And today, I did a presser
01:29on court reporting
01:31and I said that this is a very sensitive issue
01:34and while looking at the sensitive issue,
01:36while examining it,
01:37you have to report it very carefully.
01:39They understood this,
01:41but they say,
01:42why did you do it at 7.30?
01:44When the cancellation took place,
01:46you know that such a sensitive case
01:48has been filed in the Supreme Court.
01:50And there is no container for them.
01:53When did you get to know
01:54that there was going to be a case in the Supreme Court?
01:56Look, in the Supreme Court,
01:58two or three days ago,
01:59when the case was fixed.
02:00When did you get to know
02:01that the team from Bangladesh had come?
02:03The team from Bangladesh was already decided.
02:05When did you get to know
02:06that this case is sensitive?
02:07You already knew.
02:08No, the sensitivity of the case,
02:10when there was a protest,
02:12all the things,
02:13we also saw,
02:14when these things happened on the floor of the House,
02:16after that they went to the Committee of Justice
02:18and a unanimous decision came from there.
02:20So when did the protest happen?
02:22The protest happened first.
02:23The case was not released for hearing after that.
02:25My question is simple.
02:26You should have told them
02:27that this is the situation.
02:29You want to protest politically.
02:31With apologies.
02:33But you should not protest.
02:35There are a lot of sensitivities that day.
02:36We are telling you first.
02:37With apologies.
02:38Then they cannot complain
02:39that you told us on time.
02:40When the case was fixed,
02:41this is a one or two day happening.
02:42And this cannot happen.
02:44Mr. Bouchar himself knows very well
02:46what kind of sensitivity there is
02:47with this whole matter.
02:48And as far as this is concerned,
02:50on 22nd,
02:52the date given on 22nd,
02:54the local administration
02:56gave a statement in the court
02:58and gave a unanimous statement
03:00that we will give them permission.
03:02And we saw the court's record
03:04and gave them permission
03:06to act on the court's decision.
03:08Now you know the problem is not this.
03:09Anika, the problem is this.
03:11This is not the first time.
03:12How many times have they
03:13announced the Jalsa and denied it.
03:15The problem is that these people
03:17play with their emotions,
03:19bring them on the line
03:21and bring them out.
03:23This is the issue.
03:25This is a very good opportunity for you.
03:27This is the issue.
03:28You are exposing them.
03:29We have exposed them.
03:30You have given them NOC.
03:32If you do not cancel their NOC,
03:33they will not be able to bring people.
03:35You want their track record to be exposed.
03:37You are saying that people are not with them.
03:39If the situation becomes like this,
03:41if people from religious communities
03:43who had a sensitive case in the Supreme Court,
03:45you want us to give them permission.
03:47I don't want anyone from Pakistan to be exposed.
03:49It's like you said,
03:51it's a blessing in disguise for them.
03:53It's a blessing in disguise for them.
03:55That was a question for them.
03:57I am asking you,
03:59do you think their popularity has reduced?
04:01Or will people not come out in support like that?
04:03After the decision of Mansukhi,
04:05they have created an example.
04:07This is their modus operandi.
04:09Listen to this.
04:11What is the modus operandi?
04:13Getting people's attention,
04:15brainwashing people,
04:17putting their narrative in people's minds.
04:19After that,
04:21they charge people on the streets.
04:23If this was a Bakit-e-Jalsa,
04:25they would not have said
04:27to bring food items,
04:29charge mobile phones,
04:31bring clothes.
04:33In this hot weather,
04:35people are wearing sweaters.
04:37What are they trying to do?
04:39What are they trying to show?
04:41They actually came for a protest.
04:43They didn't come for a Jalsa.
04:45Tell us, was it a protest or a Jalsa?
04:47And where were they today?
04:49You have promised a lot for 8th.
04:51That there will be peace,
04:53there will be no riots.
04:55There will be no riots,
04:57there will be no problems,
04:59no harm will be done to the property,
05:01the law will not be taken in hand.
05:03Tell us about the earlier intention.
05:05Because the government seems to be
05:07burning milk and tea.
05:09They are in that situation.
05:11You are giving assurances.
05:13And the chaos in your preparations,
05:15how should the government
05:17translate that?
05:19I will answer one thing
05:21about Malik Sahib.
05:23If after the Jalsa,
05:25no one wants to come,
05:27then give us permission.
05:29We will know on a three-day notice
05:31whether someone comes or not.
05:33I talked about this in a program last night.
05:35Why do you cancel NOC?
05:37If there are no people,
05:39you will be exposed.
05:41There has to be one Jalsa
05:43where there are no people
05:45and things will be over.
05:47So stop it again and again
05:49and make events.
05:51There is a kind of mobilization,
05:53recharge.
05:55Politicians themselves know
05:57that in political parties,
05:59events are only recharged,
06:01people are mobilized.
06:03Political parties have events.
06:05We have given them time.
06:07If the case had been fixed
06:09three days ago,
06:11they would have told us.
06:13We had no intention
06:15of doing such an event
06:17where there was a direct clash
06:19or a religious community
06:21had reached there.
06:23If it could have happened
06:25at 7 in the morning,
06:27it could have happened
06:29two days earlier.
06:31When they saw this,
06:33we are also a political party.
06:35We know this.
06:37This is not our first time.
06:39They saw whether people
06:41came out or not.
06:43A lot of people came out of Punjab.
06:45If you see all the events
06:47of Sawabi Jalsa,
06:49you will find out.
06:51It is understood that
06:53there is a government there,
06:55but people also left Punjab
06:57because there is no truth
06:59for the Sawabi Jalsa.
07:01People left Punjab
07:03and reached there.
07:0540,000-50,000 people
07:07reached there.
07:09If you look at the roads,
07:11this Jalsa,
07:13I will tell you one more thing.
07:15Sir, you did 144
07:17yesterday.
07:19The people who were arrested
07:21the day before yesterday,
07:23the people who were raided
07:25the houses of the people
07:27in Punjab,
07:29the whole situation was like this.
07:31Sir, I have a simple question.
07:33I asked them
07:35that you should have told us
07:37three days earlier.
07:39If they had told us three days earlier,
07:41would you have stopped?
07:43We were a political party.
07:45We have done this on the basis
07:47of reports.
07:49God forbid,
07:51there could be an event
07:53where someone else is responsible
07:55and we are held responsible.
07:57This happens.
07:59Earlier, when they said
08:01about Muharram,
08:03we cancelled that Jalsa as well.
08:05But for us,
08:07politically,
08:09we have benefited a lot.
08:11So, Mr. Bakhtiar,
08:13you should be thankful.
08:15You should prostrate
08:17in front of God.
08:19Thank God,
08:21he has given you the benefit.
08:23You did not work hard for the Jalsa
08:25I was answering his question.
08:27He said that his people
08:29will not come after this
08:31but our people are still ready.
08:33You saw the videos.
08:35Tell me,
08:37will you do the same on 8th?
08:39No, it is not like that.
08:41We will see the situation
08:43at that time.
08:45What is the security situation?
08:47So, we will cancel?
08:49No, no.
08:51His people will come again.
08:53Look at the social media.
08:55People say that we have been humiliated.
08:57We have been disgraced.
08:59We did not want to do the Jalsa.
09:01They called us from far
09:03and said that there will be a Jalsa.
09:05They did not do the Jalsa.
09:07This is your question.
09:09Let me answer it.
09:11If you had told them three days ago,
09:13they would have said that
09:15there will be a Jalsa at any cost.
09:17They will do the Jalsa.
09:19What will they do?
09:21They made such accusations against us.
09:23They put such barriers.
09:25And after that,
09:27when nothing could be done,
09:29the state resources of 5,000 rupees
09:31from the money of the poor people
09:33gave 5,000 rupees to them
09:35because we had brought you on the money
09:37at the Jalsa.
09:39And they gave the money.
09:41KP Government's resources
09:43were used.
09:45They were used without any reason.
09:47And they tried to fill the people.