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Kamran Murtaza's once Again Denied Bilawal Bhutto's Statement
Kamran Murtaza's once Again Denied Bilawal Bhutto's Statement
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00:00Bilawal Bhutto Zardari said that there was no compulsion or fear.
00:06In your statement, Bilawal Bhutto Zardari said that when he saw Article 8, he said that yes, there is a compulsion.
00:15He said that there was no compulsion, there was no fear.
00:18He had got Article 8 removed before you came.
00:22Will you give clarification, Mr. Kamran?
00:25Yes, he is right.
00:27I am standing on my point, my point is correct.
00:30He insisted on this and he said that there is a compulsion.
00:35He said it in the sense that there is a compulsion.
00:39What is this People's Party? How is this?
00:41His gestures or his words, their meaning is that there is a compulsion.
00:48Did he directly say that there is a compulsion or gesture?
00:53Yes, he was having a direct conversation with me at that time.
00:57So, Pakistan People's Party was trying to change the constitution in such a way under compulsion, according to you, which is against the spirit of the constitution.
01:09Yes, it is like that. I had insisted that this should not be done.
01:14This is destruction.
01:17And you don't like this at all.
01:22Mr. Kamran, he said that he had got Article 8 removed before you came.
01:28No, he is not correct.
01:30On the second day, when there was a special committee meeting, he said that he had removed it.
01:42So, the meeting took place one night before Maulana Sahib, around 3 o'clock.
01:48And he came to convince Maulana on this.
01:51After that, I met him at 2 o'clock in the afternoon, the next day.
01:56He did not say this in that too.
01:58In that too, I kept insisting that this should be removed.
02:02How can we vote on this?
02:05We will not be able to face people.
02:08He did not say at that time.
02:09At least 10 hours passed after that.
02:11He did not inform after that either.
02:13There will also be a recording of the committee meeting.
02:19There will be a recording of my speech and his speech.
02:24Remove it and make it public.
02:26He said it for the first time at that time.
02:28The date will also be known.
02:29So, he came one night before that.
02:31Very interesting.
02:32Mr. Kamran, he also complained to you.
02:34I will ask him live.
02:35He says that you are coming on TV programs.
02:37But Mr. Murtaza Wahab is calling you.
02:39If he had picked up the call, then everything would have been clear.
02:42Are you really not picking up Mr. Murtaza Wahab's call?
02:44No, it is not like that.
02:46I got a call once.
02:47My apologies for that.
02:48At that time, I was driving the car.
02:50I was going to the office.
02:51I was driving myself.
02:52At that time, I could not pick it up.
02:54When I went to the office, there was a crowd of clients.
02:57Then the TV people started.
03:00So, it was late at night.
03:02He did not call again.
03:04Then I did not find it appropriate to bother him again.
03:08If he complains, then I am ready to call him 10 times.
03:12Mr. Murtaza is my younger brother.
03:14But the factual position is what I am saying.
03:18By the way, Mr. Murtaza Wahab is available on the phone.
03:21I can tell you this myself.
03:23Will you contact Mr. Murtaza Wahab after the program?
03:27I will call him.
03:29I do not have any problem.
03:31Or he calls.
03:32I will receive his call.
03:33This will be more appropriate.
03:35Because at this time, he is showing his anger.
03:37And he is also showing that I am right.
03:41He also said that you asked for two days.
03:44And the two-day time was about to end.
03:46What is the matter now?
03:48No, no, no.
03:49This is completely wrong.
03:50It is not like that.
03:51When he came the next day.
03:53He proposed that we and JUI.
03:57Together make a draft of a new contract.
04:02And make it votable.
04:04So I told him.
04:05You do this.
04:07You make your own contract.
04:09We will make our own.
04:10You have to share it with me.
04:11And in return, I will share it with you.
04:13There was no contract from their side.
04:15This is the factual position.
04:17So the delay is not from your side.
04:18The delay is from the People's Party.
04:20Yes, it is from the People's Party.
04:22There is no contract from our side until then.
04:25Because we do not have a problem.
04:27We do not have to get an amendment.
04:29We are people sitting in the treasury.
04:31The people sitting in the treasury or indirectly.
04:34They have to get an amendment.
04:36You have to get an amendment.
04:38Yes, they have to get an amendment.
04:40Both the treasury and the opposition.
04:43Whether you have to get it or not.
04:45It is up to you.
04:47Maybe that is why they are waiting.
04:49That you send your proposal first.
04:51Is the proposal ready?
04:53No, no.
04:54Why should I give it?
04:55We do not have any problem.
04:57When they give it.
04:58I will give their account.
05:00That it should not be like this.
05:02It should be like this.
05:04We will give it.
05:06And then they will say.
05:08That they themselves said.
05:10That this is such a problem.
05:12So it will not be like this.
05:14I just want to confirm, Mr. Kamran.
05:16You did not prepare any problem.
05:18The problem that will come from the People's Party or the government.
05:22The problem that will come from the BMLN.
05:24You will make corrections in it.
05:25Am I correct?
05:26No, no.
05:27It is not a matter of correction.
05:28I will give my proposal in that form.
05:30When it will come from them.
05:32I will make a proposal.
05:34Because the treasury has to bring these amendments.
05:38Government bill has to come.
05:40To bring the government bill.
05:42Why should I prepare a proposal for it?
05:44They will prepare the proposal.
05:46I will give my version.
05:48I will prepare a proposal in it.
05:50That it should not be like this.
05:52But in that form.
05:54That they will share with me.
05:56I had told Mr. Murtaza.
05:58To WhatsApp me.
06:00This will be on Sunday or Monday.
06:02It will be on Monday.
06:04When Bilawal and Mr. Murtaza came.
06:08There was Mr. Khurshid Shah in it.
06:10There was Mr. Naveed Qamar in it.
06:12He has not sent me any document yet.
06:14The WhatsApp that he had to do.
06:16He said that we will do WhatsApp.
06:18He also said that some things are with Mr. Farooq Naik.
06:22He is in Karachi.
06:24He has not sent anything yet.
06:26He has not sent anything yet.
06:28He has come to me.