Former president and incumbent Pampanga 2nd district Rep. Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo expressed disapproval of her House colleagues' persistent questioning of Vice President Sara Duterte’s controversial spending of P125 million confidential funds during an 11-day period in 2022.
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00:00Madam Chair, maybe the first observation on the budget for 2024,
00:08the Vice President said, Madam Chair, that slow and low utilization.
00:15We saw that in the presentation.
00:18So the utilization is very low.
00:22But of course, I will just comment, it is faster in the confidential funds.
00:28100% in 11 days.
00:30Madam Chair, so according to the utilization of the confidential and intelligence funds
00:41submitted by the COA to us, we have here surveillance and monitoring.
00:50Madam Chair, the purchase of information out of 125 million confidential funds in 2022,
00:58purchase of information, 14 million, payment of reward, 10 million,
01:03rental and other incidental expenses relative to the maintenance of safe houses, 16 million,
01:09purchase of supplies, 35 million, provision of medical and food aid, 40 million,
01:16payment of incentives or traveling relative to confidential operations, 10 million.
01:24So a total of 125 million conducted surveillance in 132 areas in 11 days.
01:33So 100% utilization.
01:36Madam Chair, I still request for the rules of the budget hearings.
01:43Do you want me to answer, Ma'am?
01:46Yes, Madam.
01:47This is a hearing of the budget of 2025.
01:53Where are the confidential funds?
01:56The question is confidential funds.
01:58Where are they?
01:59Madam Chair, this is a continuing question.
02:08During the last budget, 125 million was not explained.
02:16We know that this is not in the budget of 2022.
02:20So Madam Chair, in our rule, all of these are being asked.
02:25So according to the budget, whether it is in the past, because we can see the utilization of the budgets.
02:32Even in the past years, we can discuss this.
02:37Am I right, Madam Chair?
02:39I will agree with you, Hon. France Castro.
02:43You may proceed, Madam Vice President.
02:45That is my answer, Ma'am.
02:46Where our topic here and what you submitted to us is the budget proposal of 2025.
02:56Where in the budget proposal of 2025 is the item confidential funds.
03:03In aid of legislation, it is in your rules, right?
03:09The discussion should be germane to the topic.
03:12The topic is the 2025 budget proposal.
03:17Madam Vice President, Hon. France Castro has already provided a sufficient explanation for why she asked the question.
03:26So please proceed with your answer.
03:28Madam Chair, why are we discussing the budget of 2023 and 2024?
03:34I believe that our former President, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, would like to interject.
03:43It is an observation made in relation to the point of order.
03:48Because in the beginning, it was settled that the issue would be the 2025 budget.
03:54And in all our hearings, to what I recall, when we want to question something about performance, we question the 2024 budget, not the 2023 budget.
04:08What is being questioned now is the 2023 budget, which was discussed very extensively last year.
04:16And that is the reason why the House removed the confidential funds.
04:20So that issue has already been, to my mind, for purposes of the budget hearing, laid to rest.
04:27So that's my observation, Madam Chair.
04:30We note that, Madam former President, but of course we know that the funding of 2023 can still be a continuing appropriation until 2024.
04:47So in the same way, 2022 can still be a continuing appropriation until 2023.
04:52We also know that last year, we passed the 2022 confidential funds.
05:00And in fact, we left a homework for the COA.
05:04We told them that they need to finish the audit by November, I believe mid-November of last year.
05:11And since then, we don't know what happened.
05:15So that's the reason for why we are discussing this.
05:20And it's a big amount of money.
05:23I believe we owe it to the people to understand what happened.
05:27Of course, we removed it in 2024.
05:30We want to know if what we did was right, because we might have made a mistake.
05:35So I think it's worth assessing what we did in 2024 in order to know what to do in 2025.