Kya Noor Alam Khan Bills Fazal ur Rehman Ki Marzi Say Larahy Hen?
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00:00Today, another bill has also come under discussion.
00:02The Parliament has not been heard in that way today.
00:04It has been postponed.
00:05But another bill that has been forwarded,
00:07in the private capacity of the government,
00:09but of course it is related to the Muslim nuns,
00:11he has presented it.
00:13Mr. Daniyal Chaudhary.
00:15Let's ask him, he is with us.
00:16Mr. Daniyal, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
00:17Assalam-o-Alaikum.
00:19Sir, thank you for your time.
00:20Please, you too,
00:21the bill has a very technical language,
00:23please tell us in simple and concise words,
00:25what is the main point of the bill that you have proposed?
00:30Thank you for having me on the show, Mr. Waseem.
00:32Look, Mr. Waseem,
00:34the most important thing about the bill is that
00:38today, in Pakistan,
00:40there is the biggest backlog
00:42in our country,
00:44especially in cases in the Supreme Court.
00:46And the situation that is going on today,
00:49there is social media,
00:51there is television,
00:53there are different laws,
00:55for which you need expert judges.
00:57And those expert judges
00:59who come from the corporate sector,
01:01they could be elevated.
01:03So today's bill is basically
01:05for that backlog,
01:07that your backlog in the Supreme Court,
01:11where it has been more than 10-12 years
01:15that the appeals are pending,
01:17to address that,
01:19that the quantity of judges
01:24should be increased to 20.
01:27So that the issues of your people
01:29can be addressed
01:31and your entire process
01:33can move forward smoothly.
01:35Because the very first law,
01:37the very first action that is taken,
01:39it says that justice delayed
01:41and justice denied.
01:43So you want that the number of judges
01:45should be increased from 17 to 20.
01:47And you didn't tell us the reason.
01:49In your bill, Mr. Daniyal,
01:51is there anything about the retirement
01:53of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court?
01:55There is nothing about that.
01:57There is nothing about that?
01:59No, there is nothing about that.
02:01Right now, this bill,
02:03this is only for the amount of judges
02:05that should be in the Supreme Court
02:07looking at the backlog.
02:09To address that,
02:11this has been made
02:13through a very thoughtful process.
02:15And to somehow support
02:17the Pakistani people.
02:19That is the only reason.
02:21So this means, Mr. Daniyal,
02:23we have asked Mr. Khawaja Asif yesterday,
02:25our brother, Mr. Mansoor Ali Khan,
02:27and he took a very bold stance
02:29in answering this question.
02:31If I ask you that question,
02:33you will give a straight answer,
02:35that the next Chief Justice of Pakistan
02:37will be Mr. Mansoor Ali Shah.
02:39Because you have presented the bill,
02:41there is nothing about the age.
02:43So this means that Mr. Faiz is retiring
02:45and Mr. Mansoor is coming.
02:47So in your name,
02:49Mr. Daniyal is saying
02:51that we will have to wait a little
02:53because this is a government operative.
02:55When you have to decide
02:57and when you have to announce,
02:59I think at the right time
03:01the government will announce.
03:03I think Mr. Faiz Isha
03:05got the notification
03:0770-80 days ago.
03:09Because Qayas was coming
03:11and the cycle was over.
03:13So the notification was issued
03:15on 21st June.
03:17The government operative
03:19should do it 10 days ago,
03:2115 days ago or 30 days ago.
03:23If something happened 10 days ago,
03:25it doesn't stop you
03:27from doing it 15 days ago.
03:29And if it happened 15 days ago,
03:31it doesn't stop you
03:33from doing it 5 days later.
03:35This is a government operative,
03:37a government space
03:39and I think the government
03:41will play or do or give decisions
03:43when the right time is there.
03:45And when the Law Ministry
03:47or the law department
03:49will approve it.
03:51So tell me,
03:53you are saying that
03:55it's only 2 months,
03:57what's the hurry?
03:59It's true,
04:01it's the right of the government.
04:03Your bill has not been discussed
04:05in the assembly yet,
04:07so it will be discussed
04:09either on Friday or Tuesday.
04:11So is it possible
04:13that this bill
04:15will be discussed in the assembly?
04:17The most important thing
04:19is that when the bill is discussed,
04:21it is the power of the parliament
04:23and the parliamentarians
04:25that if they agree with my bill,
04:27they will vote for it.
04:29And if they disagree with my bill,
04:31they will vote against it.
04:33There is no need
04:35to add or remove anything.
04:37There is no need to add
04:39or remove anything.
04:41As it is,
04:43there is a deadlock in Pakistan.
04:45And secondly,
04:47there should be judges
04:49who have expertise
04:51in different laws,
04:53especially in cyber,
04:55which is a social media thing
04:57and new things are evolving.
04:59So as a student of law,
05:01this is the only thing
05:03that is being addressed.
05:05And sir, as a student of law,
05:07do you think Noor Azam's bill
05:09should be supported?
05:11We agree with a few things
05:13of Noor Azam's bill.
05:15And I think that
05:17if a law is applied
05:19on me as a parliamentarian
05:21and a lawmaker,
05:23then the law
05:25that is enforced should be applied
05:27on them as well.
05:29And then the rights that they have
05:31should be applied on them as well.
05:33So I think that all the stakeholders
05:35should have equal rights.
05:37So you support Noor Azam's bill
05:39as a dual nationality?
05:41We support a lot of things,
05:43but when it comes to us,
05:45we are against it.