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00:00Mr. Malik, do you think Nawaz Sharif's visit to London is out of proportion or is it because of PTI, his social media and all?
00:08That's why it has become a big news out of proportion.
00:12Like Tassur-e-Banna, oh he ran away, oh he's getting backpacked, oh he's gone, oh beginning of end.
00:18Do you think this is the reason or is he just going for treatment and will come back?
00:21Or is there really some big news hidden in this regarding Nawaz Sharif's visit to London?
00:25Mr. Malik?
00:27No, I think Mr. Mian's last sentence was very striking.
00:32When he said that it's possible that everyone will speak and Mr. Mian will also speak.
00:36Yes.
00:37And the situation is going that way, he also said this.
00:39I think that Mr. Mian can sit like this and speak.
00:44And he's going there because he has the opportunity.
00:51I got the impression from what he said that maybe Mr. Mian thinks that a situation is going to arise
00:57that he might have to speak.
00:59He hasn't spoken for 6-8 months.
01:02Meaning he's going to take an anti-establishment stance when he goes there.
01:06Is that what it is?
01:11He came to a few places while eating chhandi and then the last time when there was such a big crisis.
01:16Mr. Malik, let's reconnect with you.
01:21Mr. Niyadi, you also tell us.
01:23This is the same question that Nawaz Sharif has for you.
01:25Do you see any big news in this or is it just a normal thing?
01:31I think Mr. Nawaz Sharif's problem right now is not that he has to go to London
01:37and for that he has to give a pretext or excuse.
01:41Because the problem is that the political movement that is going on right now
01:46has consumed the space of the Muslim youth.
01:51Mr. Nawaz Sharif doesn't have space in politics right now.
01:55Not only that, he doesn't even come to the party.
01:59He's in the government.
02:00But you can see that whenever there is a political event,
02:07Muslims are counted or discussed.
02:12Yes, that's right.
02:13So this is a strange situation.
02:16Because right now, as long as there is a talk of war between Imran Khan and the establishment,
02:25his camel doesn't sit anywhere.
02:27Until then, no other political party will come into discussion in this way.
02:34Neither will he be able to give any statement nor will his words reach people's ears in a positive way.
02:41Interesting.
02:42But at the same time, Mr. Kazmi, the issues of PTI, which seem to be increasing,
02:46no doubt some of our friends are giving dates that they are going in two months,
02:49the government is going, Mr. Khan is coming.
02:51I think the difficulties are increasing.
02:53So this is the lottery of the Noon League.
02:57One of the benefits of the Noon League is that they will want this matter to continue.
03:04Yes, absolutely.
03:05I think if there is any insurance policy of the Noon League at the moment,
03:09then it is Mr. Imran Khan.
03:11The politics that Imran Khan is doing, the Noon League is obviously benefiting from it.
03:15Now, how much benefit the Noon League can take from it politically is a separate issue.
03:21See, the position in which the Noon League is present,
03:24it is not because of its political thinking or political excellence,
03:29it is present there because of the statements of Imran Khan.
03:33Now, as Mr. Niazi said, there is less space for him.
03:38Although, if someone has political space in Pakistan at the moment,
03:43then he is with the Noon League.
03:45Mr. Niazi can hold a meeting, he can hold a procession, he can call his party meetings,
03:50but the people are not ready to give him space.
03:53He has all that administrative space,
03:56but the people on the ground are not ready to give him that relief or that space.
04:01And Mr. Niazi's going out of the country,
04:03now it is being said that he will go in October at the end of September.
04:07There is going to be a big change in October.
04:09Chief Justice is going, Qazi Faiz Issa will be the new Chief Justice.
04:13You will remember that when Shehbaz Sharif was the Prime Minister,
04:17Mr. Niazi did not return to Pakistan.
04:19Mr. Niazi returned when there was a change in the Supreme Court.
04:22After that, he returned to Pakistan.
04:24And now, before any change again, he has to go out again.
04:28And whenever Mr. Niazi speaks, as Mr. Javed Lateef was also saying,
04:33he sits across the seven seas and asks questions,
04:37asks for answers, he also talks about the state of the country.
04:41So I think it would be ideal for him, if he is sitting outside,
04:45then he will be able to speak openly.
04:47In terms of Adliya or in terms of establishment?
04:51This is his will, maybe he will speak openly in terms of you and me.
04:55This is Mr. Niazi's will.
04:57We cannot say anything.
04:59But the second thing is, I was talking to a senior leader of my party,
05:04he said that as long as Maryam Dibi is in power,
05:07don't expect that Mr. Niazi will go all guns blazing.
05:10And he will say something like,
05:12as long as the ministries are in power in Punjab, Mr. Niazi will be careful.
05:16Mr. Malik, my question was exactly the same.
05:18Your voice was cut off at that time.
05:20If you are saying that Mr. Niazi should go there and open a debate
05:23in terms of establishment,
05:25then like our friend is saying,
05:27that Mr. Niazi will not be allowed to go like this,
05:29as long as there are no guarantees outside.
05:31What is the guarantee?
05:32It is the daughter's government in Punjab.
05:34So if outside, Mr. Niazi has hit sixes and fours,
05:36then the government will go back and forth.
05:38The government is standing on three seats.
05:40So does Mr. Niazi have this position that he can hit sixes and fours?
05:45Look, if Imran Khan talks less,
05:48or if he talks less outside,
05:50then you can say that his force is silence.
05:53Mr. Niazi's compromise is silence.
05:57His daughter's government is in Punjab.
05:59That is why his statements are completely silent.
06:05Mr. Niazi, these two compromises are silent.
06:08I am sure he will be angry at many things.
06:12He has two angers.
06:14One is that he did not make me the Prime Minister.
06:16The second anger is that he did not make me the Prime Minister,
06:19so you have not even solved the issue of Imran Khan.
06:21And you have put me in a political wilderness.
06:25Look, one thing is that he has been the Prime Minister for 30-35 years.
06:31He has been in politics for almost 40 years.
06:33He formed a party and did everything.
06:35Where is he standing today?
06:37Can you ever think that Mr. Niazi will be so irrelevant in national politics?
06:40Especially when two of his orders become irrelevant.
06:46Some people think that maybe he has been made irrelevant by the institution over the years.
06:52Maybe they even realize that whether they want it or not, they have been made irrelevant.