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00:00If dry bread pieces are all your fare, will salty or saltless taste really matter?
00:20If you are benumbed by slumber, can you wait for cushion or cover?
00:31Says Kabir, unique is the path of love.
00:35If you savour your head, why you shed a tear?
00:45So she is asking, does salty or saltless taste refer to one's suffering?
00:56Also when Kabir Sahab says savour your head, is he referring to one's suffering as well?
01:09The difference between the lover of truth and the pursuer of the world is stark.
01:35For the lover of truth, the world and all the worldly
01:54experiences are just one thing, one unit, one entity, one taste, one monolith.
02:18For the one besotted by the world, chasing the world, the world and the experiences it
02:38offers are a complete spectrum, a complete spectrum holding an infinite number of distinct
02:55possibilities, an infinite number of distinct tastes.
03:03To all these possibilities and tastes, the pursuer of the world assigns different names,
03:13different connotations.
03:19To all these names correspond different feelings.
03:31At the two ends of this spectrum are the two states that most excite him.
03:47There is happiness at one end and there is sadness at one end and in between there are
03:55various mixtures, combinations of happiness and sadness.
04:05You go to someone who is enamored by the world and ask him how are you feeling right now?
04:17He will have one description to offer to you.
04:21Note down that description.
04:26Go to him after a couple of hours and ask again the same question, how are you feeling
04:35now?
04:36He will have a separate word to offer you.
04:40I am assuming his vocabulary is rich enough to depict all his different experiential states
04:50in different and suitable words.
04:55He will offer you a different, distinct word.
04:59Go to him again when he is in a different situation, a different mood and repeat the
05:07same question.
05:09What is the question?
05:12How are you feeling?
05:14How are you experiencing?
05:16And he will offer you a third word.
05:24Go to him 400 times and I say that if his vocabulary is rich enough and if language
05:35has possibilities to precisely and sharply indicate each color of man's mood and mind,
05:52then he will have 400 different words to offer you.
06:02So he remains engaged.
06:03There are 400 different possibilities and it doesn't stop at 400.
06:10Between happiness and sadness, what is the number of points you can come to?
06:18Infinite.
06:21If I give you even this much, a length in space, in how many different parts can you
06:31divide it?
06:32Infinite.
06:33It's just that you need to have a razor sharp enough.
06:40If you can have a pencil sharp enough, then you can draw an infinite number of lines between
06:47these two points and these two points correspond to happiness and sadness.
06:55So man is always engaged.
06:57There is so much happening.
07:00There is so much to keep him busy and hopeful and infinite number of possibilities are there.
07:06If one thing doesn't satisfy you, you feel that there is something else on offer.
07:11Life doesn't stop ever.
07:14Are you getting it?
07:18But it doesn't matter what your current state is, the dimension is always linear.
07:31The dimension is between happiness and sadness.
07:39If it is required to point out your state, it can always be depicted as alpha H plus
07:48beta S where beta is equal to 1 minus alpha.
07:57You get this.
08:01It is so silly.
08:02It is so predictable.
08:03It is so unilinear, unidimensional.
08:14You would always be found somewhere between this and this.
08:19It's just that since there are infinite possibilities between this and this, so you keep feeling
08:25as if you have arrived at a new place.
08:30Whereas you never arrive at any new place, the mind keeps moving between these two poles.
08:43You know, if you dig a tunnel from the north pole of the earth to the south pole and you
08:50drop a ball in that tunnel, what would that ball do?
08:58The ball will keep performing simple harmonic motion in the tunnel.
09:04The north pole is happiness, the south pole is sadness.
09:08The ball is the mind and the mind takes it to be quite an adventure.
09:23For the mind, it is quite a thrill to be journeying in the tunnel.
09:31It's a long tunnel, you see.
09:33The mind never comes to realize that the tunnel is really its captivity, that the tunnel is
09:46really the prison that defines the mind.
10:01So the mind is never really bored.
10:05How many points are there between north pole and south pole?
10:08Well, if there are an infinite number of points between even these two fingers, then between
10:17north pole and south pole, obviously the number of points is just beyond any count.
10:32Mind keeps feeling thrilled.
10:34Mind keeps saying, well, something new is happening in life, you know, I just moved
10:37to a new point, a different point.
10:41What the mind doesn't realize is that it's the same axis, same dimension.
10:48So the worldly mind is always looking forward to the future in the hope of coming to a new point.
11:01In the mind of the worldly man, the world is a diverse place in which there are certain
11:10good things and there are certain bad things.
11:14The role of human life, the purpose of human life is to get more and more of the good things
11:24and avoid more and more of the bad things.
11:28You go to a common man and he will admit, if he is honest, that this is the purpose of his life.
11:36There are some good things, they are all found on the North Pole and there are some really
11:43evil things and they are all found towards the South Pole and then what is the purpose of life?
11:53Please stay closer to the North Pole.
11:56If possible, attain an equilibrium right on the North Pole.
12:03If possible, simply stick to the North Pole.
12:06That's the purpose of the ordinary man's life.
12:09What is the North Pole?
12:10The pole of happiness and therefore the purpose of the common life is happiness.
12:17Behind it is an assumption and a lot of ignorance.
12:23What is the ignorance about?
12:24The ignorance is about the laws of simple harmonic motion.
12:33If you go North, you will have to go South.
12:38Physics calls it SHM.
12:43Duality calls it the basic law of duality, basic duality.
12:54But the commoner thinks that it is possible to violate this law.
12:58The commoner lives in the constant hope that a day will come when the ball will ultimately
13:08stop at the North Pole and he dreads the opposite.
13:15He dreads a situation in which the ball has stopped at the South Pole.
13:22It doesn't matter whether you demand it or dread it, the ball will keep moving between
13:28the poles.
13:30That is your fate as a human being.
13:34Nevertheless, life is full of changes for the common man.
13:41This much must be evident.
13:43Things are changing.
13:45Now one is a student, now one is a husband, now one is a father, now one is an employee,
13:51now one has grey hair, now one's kids are going to the college, now one has to get his
13:57kids married, now one is a grandpa, now one is booking a slot for himself in the graveyard.
14:16Every moment there is something new that life offers you.
14:20Have you not heard this statement many a times?
14:23There are people who come to you and say, especially spiritual teachers, they would
14:27say life is new every moment.
14:33These so-called spiritual teachers keep you in a dastardly hope.
14:41They keep telling you every moment in life is new, you see.
14:45What is new?
14:49What is new?
14:51All the time you are just oscillating from the North Pole to the South Pole, from the
14:58South Pole to the North Pole and in this oscillation you are being tutored that the journey is
15:07new.
15:08Every day is a new day.
15:10What is new?
15:13Same old tendencies, same old thoughts, same old hopes, same old tendency to keep hoping
15:19same old fears.
15:25Even if the fears appear new, the tendency to remain afraid is very old.
15:31What is new?
15:35But be it shrewd advertisers or renowned spiritual teachers, all want to drill it deep into you
15:47that life is new every moment.
15:54What is new in life?
15:59Why?
16:01I just had a baby.
16:02Isn't that a new thing?
16:06Seriously?
16:07Are you so sold out to names and forms that you think that having a baby is a new thing?
16:17Look seriously into it and you will see that the tendency to have babies has always been
16:30there.
16:31The baby might have appeared in a physical form right now, but you have always been a
16:36mother and you have always been a father.
16:46The body itself is the mother and the body itself is the father.
16:50When have you not been a mother?
16:57Is it the first time that something is attracting?
16:59Is it the first time you are so excited about a new arrival?
17:04It has happened again and again and you are again demanding for the same thing, totally
17:10forgetting how you have been thoroughly and repeatedly disappointed by all such previous
17:16hopes.
17:22But you want to try once again.
17:24Have you no care or love for yourself?
17:29But anyway, that's the common average life to keep thinking that one day something new
17:40will happen.
17:41Wo sabaha kabhi toh aayegi.
17:46Waiting for that one great morning or if you are not waiting for that one great morning,
17:52if you say you have some worldly wisdom, then you will say no, you don't need to wait for
17:56one great morning.
17:58Every morning is new and that sounds so cute, so smart.
18:03One feels like buying into it, no?
18:07Every day is a new day.
18:14Not Kabir Saheb.
18:16See what he is saying.
18:17He is saying, if dry bread pieces are all your fare, will salty or saltless taste really
18:24matter to the saint?
18:26The world is just one experience.
18:33The entire expanse of the senses is just one experience.
18:45In this particular verse, Kabir Saheb says that the experience is of dry bread pieces.
18:57Dry bread pieces.
19:00That's how the world feels like to the knower or to the lover.
19:09It is the shared, common exclaim of both the realized one and the devoted one.
19:21The world is just dry bread pieces.
19:25Now, how does it matter whether the bread pieces are salty or saltless?
19:36The common man creates a great distinction.
19:41He says, you know, salty bread pieces are far more preferable to saltless bread pieces.
19:49Salty bread pieces he calls as happiness.
19:53Saltless bread pieces he calls as sadness.
20:01The saint says, how does it matter if those bread pieces have been salted?
20:07After all, fundamentally, they are just dry bread pieces and I do not agree with dry bread
20:19pieces.
20:22I just cannot bring myself to a state where I start delighting in dry bread pieces whether
20:29salty or saltless.
20:32The common man says no.
20:37It is great when bread pieces are salted.
20:42It is bad only when the bread pieces areтАж
20:47You get the difference in the positions of the saint and the common man.
20:54The common man is saying, it is possible to enjoy these dry bread pieces provided they
21:02are salted.
21:04The saint says, it doesn't matter whether they are salted or saltless.
21:10I cannot enjoy them.
21:14So to the saint, the world is not a spectrum.
21:21To the saint, the world is just one thing.
21:25What is that one thing?
21:27Dry bread pieces.
21:30Something that gives you no consolation, no comfort.
21:34Something to which you can really never agree.
21:40Therefore, the saint does not try to find satisfaction in the world.
21:47The saint has finally declared, declared with finality, what?
21:58The world is not where I am going to find contentment.
22:02The world is just dry bread pieces.
22:06It is just that some of those pieces are salted.
22:09Some are saltless.
22:11Some of those dry bread pieces are colored.
22:14Some are colorless.
22:16Some are aromatic.
22:22Some have no aroma.
22:25Some of them come in fancy packaging.
22:30Some of them do not even look good.
22:35Some are named very eloquently and some have a bad name.
22:46It doesn't matter what the names of the bread pieces are.
22:53It doesn't matter what their forms are.
22:57It doesn't matter what their descriptions are, what their social standings are.
23:07The saint says a bread piece is a bread piece and that to a dry one.
23:16I do not like dry bread pieces.
23:20The world is just one big dry bread piece.
23:26All the diversities that are found in the world are superficial.
23:33Those diversities cannot fool me.
23:36I have come to realize that the bread in the pizza is stale.
23:46Now will the topping change things?
23:55You have just come to see that the bread in the pizza is stale.
24:02Now would it help if the topping is fancy and eye-catching?
24:09Would it help?
24:11The common man is taken in by the topping.
24:23The saint looks at the dry bread piece.
24:28He says this pizza has dry stale bread.
24:33It doesn't matter whether you put a lot of salt or a lot of oregano or a lot of cheese
24:39or a lot of whatever.
24:51And especially if your bread is dry and stale, it becomes very important to top it well.
25:08Freshly baked bread you can have even without jam, cheese or butter.
25:21Stale bread, dry bread, you require salt, you require many other kinds of spices and
25:25additions.
25:34You know most people do not eat the pizza for the bread, they eat the pizza for the
25:39toppings.
25:40That's the common man.
25:43He forgets the base.
25:47Who is the saint who remembers the base?
25:56The common man looks at the topping and sees a lot of differences.
26:06And the chef with all his experience and wickedness is smiling.
26:14And the customer is acting very smart in his own eyes.
26:17He says, you know, a little bit of this and that and add that as well.
26:27What is the one thing that the customer is not talking of?
26:31The base.
26:32And the chef is smiling.
26:33And the chef is saying, the bugger doesn't even bother to inquire whether the base has
26:41any substance.
26:43The base is totally rotten and the customer is busy specifying the toppings to this customer.
27:00Pizza is bad if the topping is bad, but there is a great possibility that the pizza is good
27:07provided the topping is good.
27:09To the saint, the pizza is definitely bad because the base is just dry bread.
27:24That's what Kabir Sahab is talking of here.
27:31This is in front of a pizza shop in Varanasi in the 15th century.
27:42I tell you, seriously, what do you think, 15th century Kashi did not know of pizza?
27:54Here is the proof.
28:00Next, if you are benumbed by slumber, can you wait for cushion or cover?
28:13If you really are desperate for that final relaxation, will you attach conditions to
28:28your sleep?
28:31Sleep here stands for relaxation.
28:36Sleep here stands for a state of consciousness in which the world is no more.
28:52Kabir Sahab here is not talking of ordinary sleep.
28:57He is using ordinary sleep as a metaphor to point at the final sleep that each of us
29:10craves for and he says that if you are talking too much about beds, mattresses, pillows,
29:26cushions and covers, that only shows that you are still not sleepy enough.
29:36That only shows that you still have appetite left for the normal state of consciousness.
29:44That only shows that you still can be hanging around for another 30 minutes with your eyes
29:54opening into the world.
30:00You have not come to that point where you say enough is enough.
30:04I do not want the world to enter into me anymore through these eyes.
30:10These eyes must close.
30:13I want sleep right now, immediately.
30:16The world has to cease.
30:20And when you are so very sleepy, then you do get to sleep because then you drop all
30:30your conditions against sleep.
30:34It is not that sleep is not available.
30:42Man refuses to sleep for two reasons.
30:47One, he feels there is something important in the world that is waiting for him, pending.
30:55So he says how can I sleep?
30:57Something is yet to be done.
31:02Even in ordinary sleep that happens, does it not?
31:06If something important is pending, then you find that sleep is difficult to come.
31:15Similarly, the spiritual sleep cannot come to you if you keep thinking that some important
31:23matter in the world is still to be closed.
31:31And as far as we are concerned, the list of important items pending in the world just
31:40keeps forever increasing.
31:45We are never going to come to a point where we may say I am done with the world.
31:59All pendencies are cleared, nothing remains hanging or lingering.
32:05So I can now retire.
32:16That is one reason attaching importance to the world.
32:26And the second reason is attaching conditions to sleep.
32:34One says I will sleep when such and such conditions relating to sleep are met.
32:42What are those conditions?
32:43Well, you know, I am a man of high stature.
32:48How do I sleep on this ragtag mattress?
33:00Even my liberation has to be a special liberation because I am a special man, you see.
33:08Maybe there are several who get enlightenment, but mine should be enlightenment plus.
33:19Or do you want me to identify as a commoner?
33:28So there are conditions, you see.
33:34I want to sleep, but the linen has that spot in the bottom left corner.
33:48So unless you replace the linen, I am not going to sleep.
33:56Such are our conditions.
34:00I will come to liberation when, fill up the blank, and you will never be short of sentences
34:20to fill up the blank.
34:23You would never come to a point where you say nothing is remaining to fill the blank.
34:37I am done with everything.
34:39There would always be some condition standing against your liberation, against your union
34:51with the beloved.
34:54And you honor that condition.
34:59You are too full of respect towards the world.
35:05You do not look at the world as just a dry bread piece.
35:12To you, the world stands as something very appealing.
35:22Look at this.
35:31What is the attitude of the saint towards the world?
35:40For the saint, the world is not an end, but an opportunity.
35:47To the common man, the world itself is the end.
35:55The common man says the purpose of life is happiness and happiness comes from attainment
36:02in the world.
36:05That is the philosophy on which 99.99% of humanity works.
36:12People might say that they are not philosophers, but in fact everybody is a philosopher and
36:20what is the philosophy they subscribe to?
36:24It can be summed up in two sentences.
36:27One, the purpose of life is happiness.
36:30Happiness comes from worldly attainments.
36:35That is the common motivating philosophy of the world.
36:44What does the saint say?
36:46The saint says the world is an opportunity to gain liberation from the world.
36:56There is no option but to use the world as an opportunity because the bodied one is finding
37:02himself in the world.
37:05So there is no escape from the world and if there is no escape from some place, then that
37:11same place has to be used as an opportunity, where else is the opportunity?
37:17If the embodied being finds himself in the world, then the possibility of liberation
37:26from the world too must be where he is and where is he?
37:33In the world.
37:34Therefore, he uses the world as an opportunity, searches for opportunities.
37:38This is the world.
37:40In this world, where do I find that tunnel, that secret tunnel that takes me out of the
37:47prison?
37:49This is the world enclosing me.
37:53Where do I find the crack in the wall?
37:57The crack in the wall that I can exploit to break through.
38:04That is the attitude of the saint.
38:10He too looks carefully at the world, but not to get happiness, but to get liberation.
38:21The common man looks carefully at the world, searching for opportunities for happiness.
38:29The saint looks even more carefully at the world, searching for opportunities for liberation.
38:38That is the difference.
38:43The common man looks for happiness without realizing the dual nature of happiness, without
38:54realizing that the ball is performing a simple harmonic motion between happiness and sadness.
39:02The common man knows neither physics nor the metaphysical.
39:15He looks for happiness and gets a bit of it, no doubt.
39:20Sometimes the ball is indeed at the North Pole or close to the North Pole.
39:25Sometimes it is.
39:26Is it not?
39:27So, the common man looks for happiness and gets a bit of happiness, some crumbs of happiness.
39:34But along with the happiness that he gets, he gets an equal share of sadness and then
39:41he feels both puzzled and motivated.
39:45He feels puzzled because he had never bargained for sadness and he feels motivated saying
39:51that now that I have sadness, I will look for happiness with even more determination.
39:57After all, sadness is an unwanted state of mind and it has to be removed or balanced out.
40:14The common man faces defeat in what he wants.
40:19The saint succeeds in what he wants.
40:23The saint succeeds because he is wanting something that is fundamentally different from what
40:28the common man wants.
40:33You too can win this great war provided you look for the right kind of victory.
40:45The victory in this war is a world that begins with L not with H.
40:57The victory in the war called life is not happiness but liberation.
41:07Is it too tough to understand?
41:12Yes?
41:13kahe kabir prem ka maarag sir dena toh roh na kya rahe ho?
41:21Once you have offered your head, now why do you cry?
41:32This is the path.
41:39This is the war in which you are fighting against your own head.
41:44There is no enemy outside of you.
41:49It is a very peculiar kind of battle.
41:56In general, in common wars, your enemy stands outside of you and aims for your head and
42:10your role in the war is to protect your head.
42:17That's how a common war or battle proceeds.
42:20Is it not?
42:22The enemy is outside of you and he's gunning for your head and what are you trying to do?
42:31You're trying to protect your head.
42:35The real war called life proceeds, we said, a little peculiarly.
42:45How does it proceed?
42:47The enemy is not outside of you.
42:49You are the enemy.
42:51You are fighting against your own head.
42:54Your head is the enemy you are fighting against.
42:58To save itself, your head keeps on misguiding you by telling you that the enemy is outside
43:10of you.
43:14The head must save itself.
43:16So the head gives you fake information like one usually gives to the enemy.
43:27What kind of information do you give to your enemy?
43:30True, genuine, fake information.
43:33Now your head being your enemy, it gives you fake information.
43:38What does it tell you?
43:39It tells you the enemy is there.
43:4547.5 degrees to your right at a distance of 3.82 meters and if you are not careful enough,
43:56not discreet enough, then you will be fooled by your head and you will start aiming for
44:02the enemy, assuming that the enemy is outside of you and somebody here keeps shooting wherever
44:11you want to but you will never shoot at the real enemy.
44:14Who is the real enemy?
44:15The one you consider your friend.
44:18The one you consider not only your friend but are actually very closely identified with
44:24your head.
44:29Your head will not tell you who your real enemy is.
44:33Your head will never tell you who your real enemy is because your head itself is the real enemy.
44:39Now why do you rely on your head to determine your friends and foes?
44:46How wise is that?
44:52You are still trying to comprehend me through your head?
44:58Many of you are.
45:13It's like depending on your born enemy, sworn enemy to know where your welfare lies.
45:26Consulting your head to know how to win this war is like consulting your enemy on how to
45:34defeat him and not only consulting him but actually abiding by his advice, fighting the
45:44war on the principles suggested by your enemy.
45:52That's how intelligent we are.
46:01Kabir Saheb says, smaller battles can be fought later on.
46:10Let's slaughter the main enemy first.
46:15As you enter the war, sever your head.
46:32The commander-in-chief of the enemy forces has been killed.
46:37Now how long will the enemy hold on?
46:46Who was the commander-in-chief of the enemy forces?
46:49Your own head.
46:50He has been shot down.
46:53The enemy cannot stand his ground for long.
46:57The war is as good as won.
47:03For all the lovers of truth and peace, Kabir Saheb has just one simple advice.
47:14Kill the mole.
47:15There is a spy in your ranks.
47:31The commander-in-chief of the enemy forces is acting as a mole and has entered your camp
47:39and not only has he entered your camp, he has actually become the commander-in-chief
47:43of your forces and you are so hopeful.
48:01Love does not tolerate resistance.
48:14The lover becomes especially sensitive and discreet.
48:22There is one thing that he becomes very alert to.
48:28Who is impeding my progress?
48:33Who is preventing me directly or indirectly from reaching my target?
48:42Ordinarily, he might not come to know who is secretly blocking his path.
48:49But in love, he becomes so very particular about reaching his target that he comes to
48:58know with great sensitivity who is blocking his path.
49:23The lover doesn't stand him.
49:32The lover has no sympathy for him.
49:37The lover is not divided.
49:42The lover's devotion is totally concentrated on the one, on the beloved.
49:53So anybody who even obliquely or partially blocks, prevents, resists, impedes the lover's
50:07movement is bound to be slaughtered.
50:17And if the one blocking the lover's movement towards the beloved is the lover's own head,
50:27then too bad for the head.
50:43But such things can happen only in love.
50:49And you will know no love if you are happy with dry bread pieces.
51:02Next time, do bother to check the pizza base.
51:14The eyes usually fail to see a few things.
51:18Others deceive.
51:19Don't they?
51:20No.