日曜日の初耳学 2024年9月8日 三谷作品の作り方「俳優のこれが見たい!」&カリスマ脚本家の苦悩・仕事術

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日曜日の初耳学 2024年9月8日 三谷作品の作り方「俳優のこれが見たい!」&カリスマ脚本家の苦悩・仕事術
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00:00This is the interview with Osamu Hayashi.
00:07He made the most popular Taiga drama in history.
00:11He is so charismatic.
00:18Hello.
00:19Nice to meet you.
00:20He is a comedian.
00:23Thank you for having me.
00:24I remember this feeling.
00:28Do you remember this feeling?
00:29Yes, I do.
00:30It doesn't look like a TV program.
00:32It's good to be rough.
00:36He appeared in many dramas.
00:43For example, Furuhata Ninzaburou.
00:48He made many great works.
00:51He is a comedy writer.
00:53He is Koki Mitani.
00:55He is not only good at comedy.
00:57He is also good at Taiga drama.
01:01He won the first place and the second place in his favorite Taiga drama.
01:06He is a charismatic writer.
01:10Tonight.
01:13Is he your friend?
01:14Yes, he is.
01:17His best friend, Masami Nagasawa.
01:19He looks like him.
01:22Is he your best friend?
01:23In addition.
01:24He is a remote broadcaster with Mitani.
01:29Nice to meet you.
01:33He is a comedian.
01:34It's going to be fun.
01:36He is cool.
01:37She is my ideal woman.
01:38Ideal woman?
01:39Ideal woman?
01:40What should I do?
01:41What is your ideal woman?
01:45I can't tell you.
01:46I can tell you.
01:47I'll tell you more.
01:49Do you know this?
01:51Remi, there is something you can't say.
01:54Please think about it.
01:57Charismatic writer, Ideal woman, Remi Hirano.
02:00Charismatic writer, Ideal woman, Remi Hirano.
02:04It's been three and a half years since I started this program.
02:07I've met various actors.
02:10When I listen to their stories,
02:12I feel that Mitani is loved by many actors.
02:15I feel that Mitani is loved by many actors.
02:18Many people are looking forward to Mitani's story.
02:23I like Mitani.
02:27I want to find her good points as soon as possible.
02:34I want to tell everyone about her good points.
02:39That's my mission.
02:42I can hear the voice of Mitani.
02:47But I can also hear the voice of Mitani's prank.
02:51I can hear the voice of Mitani's prank.
02:53I can hear the voice of Mitani's prank.
02:55Mitani Kouki's prank on actors during the play.
03:02The famous actor, Yo Izumi.
03:05When I opened the door, I saw Kazuyuki Asano.
03:08I saw Kazuyuki Asano.
03:10I saw Kazuyuki Asano.
03:12He was looking at me.
03:18He was looking at me.
03:19I was surprised and bit him.
03:23Yuki Amami wants to drink coffee from Mitani's sleeve.
03:30I want to leave an episode like this.
03:32In the play where Yoshida Yo appeared, Mitani, who is not an actor, is an actress.
03:39You can do whatever you want.
03:44Please look back and explain your intention.
03:49This is all about the play.
03:53There is a time when the play becomes stagnant.
03:59If I work on the same script for two or three weeks, the excitement of the play becomes weak.
04:10At that time, I want to add a detonator.
04:16It's a detonator, isn't it?
04:17That's right.
04:18I want to add a detonator to the play.
04:26Yo Izumi said that the play was stagnant.
04:30That's his fault.
04:33He is being tested.
04:35I'm disappointed.
04:37I'm doing this play because I trust it.
04:42I see.
04:43I only do it for actors who think the play will never collapse.
04:47For example, I don't tease people who are nervous on the first stage.
04:53I don't do it because it doesn't make sense if the play collapses.
04:58I know that the play will never collapse.
05:01I'm playing a prank on him.
05:03But Yo Izumi said that the play was stagnant.
05:06He betrayed my trust.
05:08I can't believe it.
05:10That's Yo Izumi's fault.
05:12I don't want to work with him again.
05:15I warned him.
05:16You warned him?
05:17I told him not to do it again.
05:20Which one?
05:22In addition, this is a common scene in Mitani's work.
05:25Kiichi Nakai witnessed this kind of prank.
05:30It was when Yasufumi Terawaki was eating an apple with his skin on the stage.
05:37Thank you very much.
05:40He witnessed this kind of prank.
05:43He was replaced by a banana.
05:48This is Terawaki's scene.
05:51He was a Go-Gyan.
05:55He was a famous painter.
05:58He was drawing a picture with a fruit on the stage.
06:02He was supposed to draw an apple.
06:05One day, I replaced the apple with a banana.
06:10Why did you do that?
06:12Terawaki was about to eat the apple.
06:18I wondered what he would do if it was a banana.
06:21I wondered if he would peel it off or not.
06:25But he had a good timing.
06:27I trusted him.
06:28I thought Terawaki would do something.
06:30As usual, Terawaki grabbed a banana and peeled it off.
06:40He is a good man.
06:45Actually, Mitani brought something from home to show Hayashi Osamu.
06:53This is the topic they discussed last time.
06:58This is a book about the history of the Sengoku period.
07:01I was reading it.
07:03But I couldn't get it because it was in my parents' house.
07:05I still have it.
07:06I have it in my house.
07:09I've never had such a good time.
07:11This book and the Sengoku period are like the Bible.
07:15There is also a book about the Sengoku period.
07:18I have 15 books about the Sengoku period.
07:21This book is a book about the history of the Sengoku period.
07:27I want to show you this.
07:29I brought this.
07:31When I came here last time, you brought 100 Meiji Shins.
07:36I love it, too.
07:37You may have talked about it at that time.
07:39The first time I bought it was when I was 12 years old.
07:44To be honest, I feel like I lost.
07:51Do you have it?
07:52I have it.
07:54You said it was the second book of the Sengoku period.
07:57I brought the 100 Meiji Shins of the Sengoku period.
08:00Then I have a stronger card.
08:05You lost.
08:07I love it.
08:08This is good.
08:09This is good.
08:12This is TAKENAKA HANBEI.
08:14I have it.
08:15Wait a minute.
08:17Can I have some time?
08:20This is an interview.
08:25You use this well.
08:29I miss this.
08:33He is going to a different place.
08:36I couldn't read it.
08:40I lost.
08:42I wanted to bring it.
08:46You brought it.
08:47That's right.
08:48You brought it.
08:50This is me.
08:51This is the second book of the Sengoku period.
08:54I said this during the interview.
08:56I won with this.
09:01If I brought this out, I would have won.
09:04I don't care about the sun.
09:10MITANI has been cosplaying as his favorite historical figure since elementary school.
09:16He even played with the photos.
09:19This is interesting.
09:21I want to imitate him immediately when I watch a movie or a drama.
09:25There is a movie called SUBWAY PANIC.
09:28It's a story about hijacking a subway in New York in the 1970s.
09:34The next day I saw it, I didn't want to imitate it.
09:39There are four criminals.
09:41They all wear the same clothes.
09:44They wear a hat, glasses, a mustache, and a coat.
09:48They are waiting at each station of the subway.
09:53They get on the train one by one.
09:56Finally, the four of them get together and the hijacking begins.
10:00I really wanted to do it.
10:02I asked my classmate.
10:04He is a junior high school student.
10:06He gave me a hat, glasses, and a mustache.
10:08It was a K-1 match.
10:10Did you really do it?
10:12Yes, I did.
10:14I got on the train one by one.
10:17Other than me, no one has ever seen that movie.
10:21Why do we have to do this?
10:25I was excited and fun.
10:29The number of people is increasing.
10:31When everyone gathers, the movie ends.
10:34He is a kind friend.
10:36When he thinks it's interesting, he tries it himself.
10:41Now he is a screenwriter.
10:44He expresses what he thinks is interesting and what he wants to see as a work.
10:54For example, his best friend Koichi Sato.
10:58When I saw Sato's movement and his existence as an actor,
11:05I wondered what kind of movement he would never do.
11:09I thought it was an up-and-down movement.
11:13I've never seen it.
11:15I thought about how to make it an up-and-down movement.
11:19I came up with a trampoline.
11:21I wondered what kind of situation Koichi Sato would get on and off the trampoline.
11:29I thought about the story before and after that.
11:33Finally, I came up with the story of The Magic Hour.
11:36Did you start with an up-and-down movement?
11:39Yes, I did.
11:40Did you start with that?
11:43Koichi Sato wants to make an up-and-down movement.
11:47With that thought in mind, he made The Magic Hour.
11:53He actually sent the movie to the world.
11:59I sent it to you.
12:03I'm so happy.
12:07Koichi Sato is working on a new production.
12:15In this program, we ask Mr. Masayoshi Akai to design the plants according to the image of the guests.
12:24This time, it's a plant called New Cyran.
12:27It's a plant that can be shaped by rolling leaves.
12:31I think this is perfect for your image of adding various hands to each work and creating various expressions.
12:38Thank you very much.
12:40When I think of Mr. Mitani, I get the impression that he makes the actors play very interesting roles.
12:47Mr. Nishida's The Magic Hour is an image of Mr. Eri Fukatsu sleeping in a hotel.
12:55There was a night when I couldn't sleep.
12:58When I woke up, I saw Mr. Nishida's carriage in front of me.
13:04And his breath was smelly.
13:08That scene came to my mind at once.
13:11Did you come up with that scene at once?
13:15It came to my mind as an image.
13:17I remember the moment it came to my mind.
13:19It was when I was walking my dog in a park near Shimoma.
13:23That's very specific.
13:25It just came to my mind.
13:27This is the video that actually captured such an idea.
13:32But it would be terrible if it really came to my mind.
13:37It's smelly.
13:54I didn't know what kind of scene it was.
13:56It was a scene from a movie that I had never seen before.
13:59So I thought, what kind of story would it be?
14:02Then I came up with a wonderful story.
14:06Did you come up with such a story?
14:08That's right.
14:09There are many stories like that.
14:11It's like that.
14:12First of all, it's the story of an actor.
14:14I see.
14:15How did you come up with the idea of tap dancing?
14:24When I met Mr. Abe and talked to him,
14:31I wanted to make him dance.
14:34He has long limbs and a big body.
14:39So I thought he would dance dynamically.
14:44He is not a very skillful person.
14:47So I thought it would be interesting to see him dancing dynamically.
14:54Also, this is a court drama.
14:57Mr. Abe is a lawyer.
14:59I was wondering what the most inappropriate movement in court would be.
15:05I thought it would be tap dancing.
15:08Mr. Abe's tap dance, which he really wanted to see,
15:12was realized as a scene where a lawyer makes time in court.
15:16Here it is.
15:18Before we start the interrogation,
15:20could you give me a little time?
15:23What do you mean?
15:32The smile of the rain.
15:34Making time.
15:35Great.
15:38The smile of the rain.
15:45The smile of the rain.
15:51Great.
15:53Your tap dance has nothing to do with the case.
15:58What?
15:59Is that so?
16:04The same goes for Ayase.
16:06Ayase and Masami Nagasawa are very close.
16:10Mr. Nagasawa asked me to show him Ayase eating a hamburger.
16:16He said,
16:19there is no human being who eats a hamburger so deliciously.
16:25So I wanted to show the moment when Ayase eats a hamburger.
16:32What kind of story do you want to hear?
16:35It's amazing.
16:36I could see the whole story.
16:38Is that so?
16:39Do you feel like you're eating a hamburger?
16:43No, I don't.
16:44I feel like I'm eating like a rabbit.
16:47I see.
16:48I feel like I'm eating like a rabbit.
16:51Ayase Haruka eats a hamburger happily.
16:56That's also in one scene of the movie.
17:03It's small.
17:04It's small.
17:05It's small.
17:08Ayase Haruka eats a hamburger while smiling for more than 12 seconds.
17:13Her strong desire to see this is the starting point of the creation of Mitani.
17:20From there, she creates a story setting and expands the story.
17:26The only Mitani work is completed.
17:29The only Mitani work is completed.
17:35What is the most exciting moment for Mitani Kouki?
17:43When I ate a meal with my old friends.
17:47Ren, there are some things you can't say.
17:50Please think about it.
17:52Ninja Bro.
17:54You can't say Ninja Bro.
17:57For example, in a movie,
18:00there is a long process of writing a script,
18:04gathering actors,
18:05cranking in,
18:07cranking up,
18:09editing,
18:10advertising,
18:12and publishing.
18:14It takes about two years.
18:16When I'm asked what the most exciting moment is,
18:21it's when I'm casting.
18:24I'm so excited.
18:26In this book,
18:28there is a story about Nobuto Okamoto,
18:31who was casted as Chiba Tsumetane.
18:37In Kamakura,
18:39there are many elderly people.
18:43Especially at the beginning.
18:45They all wear armor and go to war.
18:49If you're really old,
18:52you're worried if you can hold it until the end.
18:55So I looked for an actor who looked old,
18:57but was surprisingly energetic.
19:01I looked for him with the staff.
19:04I was wondering if anyone was there.
19:06On Sunday night,
19:08I happened to see a play by Downtown.
19:12There was a grass baseball game.
19:15Nobuto Okamoto was very active.
19:20I was like,
19:21there he is.
19:22So the next day,
19:24I asked the staff to cast Nobuto Okamoto.
19:35People in the world were like,
19:37what do you know about Nobuto Okamoto?
19:40I wanted to say that.
19:42Recently, he was famous for eating weeds.
19:47He's not that kind of person.
19:51Yamamoto Chihiro,
19:53who played the role of the assassin Toyaku
19:56in the 13th Kamakura play.
20:00It's a common story in Mitani's works.
20:04I met him by chance.
20:06It was a strange encounter.
20:08He was in the same train as me when I just started acting.
20:14I thought there were many people watching.
20:17I wasn't an actress yet.
20:21When I first saw his play,
20:24I had an audition.
20:26It was four years later.
20:28I met him on the train.
20:29Do you remember?
20:33Mitani?
20:34Yes.
20:35Mitani, do you remember?
20:36What's that?
20:37Do you remember?
20:38I said,
20:39yes, I do.
20:41But I don't remember.
20:42You don't remember.
20:44But,
20:45it's a fate.
20:47He was cast by chance.
20:50I see.
20:51I often hear that.
20:53Mitani's focus is not only acting and casting,
20:58but also narration.
21:02I talked to Mitani,
21:04who appeared in many of his plays.
21:08Hello, Mitani.
21:09I'm Masami Nagasawa.
21:12Masami Nagasawa,
21:13an actress who narrated the 13th Kamakura play in 2022.
21:21At that time,
21:31Masami Nagasawa's narration
21:36This is Masami Nagasawa's whispering narration.
21:41As an order,
21:43I peeked out of the next room.
21:48I watched what was happening.
21:51I watched the people who lived there
21:55from the same perspective as the viewers.
22:00I tried to express it in a whispering voice.
22:07I think that's one of the things.
22:11Mitani's directing is to give me a keyword
22:15to decide how to act.
22:17I see.
22:18Mitani and Nagasawa get along well even in private.
22:23What are you talking about?
22:25We get along well.
22:27Their conversation in private has changed a little.
22:34Next week,
22:35the most popular artist,
22:37Mrs. Green Apple,
22:39She's fast.
22:40She's fast.
22:41has a series of hit songs.
22:43She's going to be behind the music production.
22:46I can't read or write.
22:49Listen with your ears and copy.
22:52It's a good band.
22:56Next Week
22:59Mitani and Nagasawa get along well even in private.
23:05What are you talking about?
23:07We get along well.
23:09When I had a meal with Mitani and my friend,
23:14Mitani and her friend
23:16talked about the time it takes to boil an egg.
23:19They talked about living together.
23:22For me,
23:24I sometimes have a hard time,
23:27so I do it for about 11 minutes.
23:29That's too long.
23:31Mitani and her friend were both science majors.
23:35The two science majors said 7 minutes was the best.
23:38I thought,
23:39cooking is science after all.
23:43In fact,
23:44she uses her science brain for directing.
23:48She says this in her book.
23:51I make 99% with a rhythm.
23:55That's to make the 1% break charming.
23:59Because I've been doing it with a rhythm,
24:02the broken scene shines.
24:06The more unexpected ideas you have,
24:09the more fun you can convey
24:11by thinking and calculating with a rhythm.
24:16This is the essence of Mitani Kouki,
24:20an entertainer who entertains many people.
24:25The turning point of his life
24:29is that
24:32his eldest son was born when he was 53 years old in 2014.
24:39Because of this,
24:41he made a big change in his style.
24:46Next,
24:47Mitani Kouki's father,
24:49Hayashi Osamu, approaches him.
24:53What kind of father do you think you are?
24:57I think Mitani is a fun father.
24:59For me,
25:01when I look back,
25:03I had a lot of uncles
25:06when I was young.
25:08They are my mother's brothers.
25:13Uncles are very interesting.
25:16They teach me
25:19all the bad things in the world,
25:22dangerous things,
25:24and bad things in Yokoshima.
25:27Uncles are like that.
25:30They give me a lot of love,
25:33but they are irresponsible,
25:35so I have a lot of freedom.
25:37They teach you irresponsible and bad things.
25:41Yes.
25:42I feel that kind of presence.
25:45They have always been by my side.
25:48Of course, they are my father,
25:51but he doesn't have an uncle.
25:54I think I should take the position of an uncle.
26:02He is like a father and an uncle.
26:05That's how I see him.
26:10This time,
26:11we have a remote broadcast with a person
26:14who has seen his father, Mitani Kouki, closely.
26:18I have a deep relationship with Mitani,
26:21and Mitani said she was a woman of his taste.
26:24A woman of his taste?
26:25Yes.
26:26We have a remote broadcast.
26:29Are you sure?
26:33I'm sorry.
26:34You said you were a woman of his taste.
26:36No, I'm not a woman of his taste.
26:38I'm an ideal woman.
26:39An ideal woman?
26:40Excuse me.
26:41That's great.
26:42An ideal woman?
26:43What should I do?
26:44What is your ideal woman?
26:46I want to know.
26:47I can't tell you.
26:49I can tell you,
26:50but when I read the essay of Mr. Wadamakoto,
26:56he wrote about his wife.
26:58He said his wife loved cooking,
27:00was cheerful,
27:01and enjoyed spending time with her.
27:03His illustration of his wife
27:05was very cute,
27:07like Julie Andrews.
27:11I thought I wanted to marry her
27:14when I was in junior high school.
27:17In junior high school?
27:19You look a little different in person.
27:21Do I?
27:22A little?
27:23A little.
27:25Remi Hirano's husband,
27:27illustrator and film director,
27:29Mr. Wadamakoto,
27:31is a man Kouki Mitani
27:33has admired since he was a child.
27:36He asked him to draw the cover of his book.
27:40Really?
27:41They've been dating for about 30 years.
27:46That's gorgeous.
27:48Remi,
27:49there's something you can't say.
27:51Think about it.
27:54Mr. Mitani said,
27:55I can't say this, I can't say that.
27:57My two sons said,
27:59Mom, you can't talk today.
28:02Mr. Mitani will tell you all the fun stories.
28:05Mom, listen to him all the time.
28:07So I won't talk today.
28:09You're his little sister.
28:12Remi,
28:13I'd like you to introduce
28:15Mr. Mitani's private life.
28:17I don't care about Minari at all.
28:20I don't care at all.
28:22Is that what you think?
28:24When I go shopping at the supermarket,
28:26I look sloppy, right?
28:28I don't have my hair done
28:30like today.
28:33How do you usually do it?
28:35Sloppy.
28:37I don't know.
28:39Remi,
28:40haven't you seen Mr. Mitani's works?
28:43Ninja Bro, Ninja Bro.
28:45I haven't seen Ninja Bro.
28:47Full heart.
28:49Ninja Bro.
28:51It's like a friend.
28:53It was very interesting.
28:55Mr. Mitani is a wonderful person.
29:00My two sons said,
29:01Mom, you can't talk today.
29:03Mr. Mitani is a wonderful person.
29:06Listen to him all the time.
29:08I heard that earlier.
29:11It's funny.
29:13Remi,
29:14don't you think about casting
29:16for Mr. Mitani's works?
29:19Mr. Mitani is not interested in acting.
29:23Mr. Mitani, listen to me.
29:25I'm in trouble.
29:26A long time ago,
29:28Mr. Juzo Idemi and Mr. Akira Kurosawa
29:31asked me to cast for their works.
29:34I said no.
29:37But Mr. Mitani said no.
29:40Wait a minute.
29:42Why did Mr. Akira Kurosawa
29:44ask you to cast for his works?
29:46I don't know.
29:47I said it was a joke.
29:49I said I wouldn't do it.
29:51Will you be cast?
29:53Will you be cast if I cast you?
29:55Mr. Remi.
29:57I won't do it.
29:59You won't do it, right?
30:01Remi Hirano
30:03knows well about
30:05Mr. Mitani's son who was born 10 years ago.
30:08I have a better story.
30:10Do you know this?
30:12You gave birth to a boy, didn't you?
30:14I didn't give birth to him.
30:16Your wife did.
30:18He was so cute.
30:20When I was at the police station,
30:23I was handing out coins.
30:25Everyone was angry.
30:27I thought it was a big deal.
30:29So I crouched down and took
30:311 yen and 10 yen coins one by one.
30:33Then,
30:35he peeped at my face
30:37and said,
30:39Mr. Remi.
30:41He was so cute.
30:43When I was at the police station,
30:45he came and took the coins.
30:47He grew up.
30:49Recently,
30:51I said,
30:53boy, hello.
30:55He said,
30:57who are you?
30:59I said I'm sorry.
31:01He said,
31:03I'm sorry,
31:05but I forgot.
31:07He was so polite.
31:09He said,
31:11I'm sorry, but I forgot.
31:13That was a few months ago.
31:15Really? I didn't know that.
31:17What kind of father
31:19was Mr. Mitani in front of Mr. Remi?
31:21Then,
31:25on Halloween,
31:27he wore a cardboard box.
31:29He wore a cardboard box.
31:31Was his name Thomas?
31:33He wore a cardboard box.
31:35Then,
31:37he came to my house
31:39and showed me his cardboard box.
31:41At that time,
31:43I wondered
31:45how kind father Mr. Mitani was.
31:47I can understand
31:49how kind father Mr. Mitani was.
31:51He was so good at it.
31:53His face was Thomas.
31:55And,
31:57his body was Thomas.
31:59He did it
32:01with no shame.
32:03No shame.
32:05It was Halloween.
32:07Thank you very much, Reimi-san.
32:09Thank you very much.
32:10See you again.
32:12Thank you very much.
32:13See you again.
32:14I feel like I've been sucked in by the guests.
32:18And on Halloween, I played Thomas the Tank Engine.
32:21Yes, you did.
32:23Don't you think your son would be very happy with that?
32:26Well, my son was born when I was 53.
32:33I never imagined that I could have a child.
32:40My father passed away early,
32:44so I didn't have much of an image of him as a parent.
32:50But now that he's a father,
32:54he's very cute, and it's like a different culture.
32:59He's like a child.
33:00I've had a lot of experiences with him.
33:03It says here that you taught him to read and write.
33:07Mr. Toritori.
33:08Well, I don't know if I should call it English education,
33:15but I try to do everything I can for him.
33:21When I was a kid, I taught him things that impressed me,
33:26things that I thought were interesting.
33:30I don't know if he finds them interesting,
33:34but I've been reading to him stories like Moomin,
33:38Mr. Toritori, and Takarajima.
33:43I started reading to him when I couldn't read at all.
33:46I'm still reading to him.
33:49Kouki Mitani
33:51Until he became a father in 2014,
33:55Kouki Mitani had hardly ever portrayed the relationship between father and son in his works.
34:04But in 2016's Taiga Drama Sanadamaru,
34:10Kouki Mitani portrays the relationship between father and son,
34:16as well as the relationship between father and son,
34:19as well as the relationship between father and son,
34:24and expands the range of his works.
34:32Mr. Yamamoto, do you get along with Mr. Mitani in private?
34:35I let him come over to my house.
34:38I'm sorry, but I was really shocked when I saw the video.
34:43There was an episode where Remi Hirano said,
34:46she was similar to Julie Andrews.
34:52About a month ago, I said,
34:54Mr. Chihiro has been similar to Julie Andrews for a long time.
35:00This is used by everyone.
35:02I'm so nervous.
35:04That's a great phrase.
35:06I'm envious of the fact that such an episode was born.
35:15Kouki Mitani's entertainment life began
35:19when he was 22 years old,
35:21when he was a student at the Department of Arts at the University of Japan.
35:25Tokyo Sunshine Boys
35:29Masahiko Nishimura, Zen Kajihara, Kazuyuki Aijima, Takashi Kobayashi,
35:35and many other actors and actresses who are now active as famous players.
35:42Next, Osamu Hayashi approaches Kouki Mitani's thoughts on the stage.
35:50In fact, this time,
35:52Kouki Mitani's precious video was obtained.
35:59It was when Mitani was 25 years old in 1987.
36:06It was when he appeared on a TV show
36:10introducing the stage of a popular theater on TBS.
36:16At that time, it had been five years since Tokyo Sunshine Boys was formed.
36:22It was the heyday of the theater,
36:25and the number of audience members was growing.
36:28In the middle of that,
36:30in the corner introducing the theater at the beginning of the program,
36:34please take a look at Kouki Mitani,
36:38who is struggling to convey the charm of our theater.
36:42Kouki Mitani
36:45It is said that Tokyo Sunshine Boys has strong actors,
36:49regardless of their good acting skills.
36:52It's embarrassing.
36:54It's terrible.
36:56Kouki Mitani
37:00Here is Kouki Mitani,
37:04who is struggling to convey the charm of the theater.
37:09Kouki Mitani
37:11It is said that Tokyo Sunshine Boys has strong actors,
37:15regardless of their good acting skills.
37:18It's embarrassing.
37:20It's terrible.
37:22Kouki Mitani
37:24It is said that Tokyo Sunshine Boys has strong actors,
37:28regardless of their good acting skills.
37:31It's terrible.
37:33Kouki Mitani
37:35Of course, there is a certain standard.
37:38For example, we do not approve of the sexual intercourse between actors.
37:42Kouki Mitani
37:44We do not allow any unruly person to be late for rehearsal.
37:48Kouki Mitani
37:50I'm sorry I'm late.
37:52Kouki Mitani
37:54I think that
37:56Kouki Mitani
37:59Kouki Mitani
38:02I'm sorry.
38:04Kouki Mitani
38:06I'm sorry.
38:08Kouki Mitani
38:10I'm sorry.
38:12Kouki Mitani
38:15This scene is a live broadcast from the opening.
38:19Kouki Mitani
38:21It's embarrassing to see it again.
38:23It's terrible.
38:25It's terrible, isn't it?
38:27The moment I was blown away and disappeared from the screen was a little funny.
38:33I thought it was a cute play.
38:36Next year, the theater will be re-established for the first time in 30 years.
38:42I think everyone has been working hard as an actor so far.
38:48It's not like there's a big star,
38:50but I think it's a theater where people who have been working hard have come together.
39:01The other day, we all got together and did something like an award ceremony.
39:08He grew up on stage and has loved the actors on stage.
39:12The love for the stage appeared like that.
39:18Let's talk about Suomi, starring Masami Nagasawa.
39:24In fact, this work is a movie, but it was made to create a stage.
39:30I wanted to make a movie that was like a stage.
39:35In fact, the actor practiced like a stage for almost a month and made a play.
39:41At this moment, I wanted to make a movie where Masami Nagasawa was the brightest.
39:57The main character, Masami Nagasawa, plays Suomi, a woman who married five men.
40:05Suomi is a woman who has a different impression depending on the person.
40:14Depending on who you deal with, she looks like a different woman.
40:19The setting is that the character changes in front of the five husbands.
40:25In fact, it was based on Mitani's real experience.
40:31I think this is a common experience for everyone.
40:36In the family, there is a character called personality.
40:41Sometimes I call myself dad, and sometimes I call myself me.
40:47But when I meet my co-workers, I make a different character.
40:56One day, my family and my co-workers appeared in front of me at the same time.
41:02At that time, I was wondering which character I should play.
41:07I'm sure you've had that experience.
41:10At that time, I was wondering which character I should play.
41:14In the end, I ended up being the third character.
41:19At that time, I thought this was interesting.
41:22Suomi has been married five times.
41:25She has been playing different characters in front of each husband.
41:30What would happen if she had to appear in front of five husbands?
41:36That's how I made the story.
41:40Oh, that's interesting.
41:43Kouki Mitani, who has created many masterpieces while feeling interesting at ordinary moments in her daily life.
41:53I think I told you at the time that I was almost 60 years old.
41:57I'm almost 60 years old, but while I'm alive,
42:01I'm in a hurry when I think about how many works I want to write.
42:08I think I'm overflowing with things I want to write from one to the next.
42:14However, Kouki Mitani also had a hard time creating.
42:22The hardest moment was when I was writing the script for the film.
42:28Even though I had an ideal casting, I had to make a finished script.
42:35I had to write a book that everyone would be satisfied with.
42:42And I had to do it alone without anyone's help.
42:47It was a really hard time.
42:53I couldn't get used to it yet.
42:56Until I started writing, I had a bad feeling.
43:01I started writing while thinking,
43:05I don't want to repeat that feeling again.
43:08Even though you knew there was joy ahead of you?
43:10I know, but I still feel that way.
43:15Nevertheless, Kouki Mitani continues to challenge herself to create something new.
43:24What is it that moves him so much?
43:29There was a passionate feeling that even Hayasho-san could feel.
43:40I felt the dark side of him.
43:42That's fast.
43:44That's fast.
43:45It feels good.
43:47When I see it, I feel happy.
43:52What is the driving force behind Kouki Mitani's creation?
43:58I'm doing what I want to do.
44:05But at the same time, it's a job that I'm ordered to do.
44:10I always feel that I have to live up to that expectation.
44:17It's related to being a producer.
44:20The actors and actresses trusted me and accepted this job.
44:26I have to live up to their expectations.
44:28If I don't, I won't be able to create something good.
44:31I think that's my motivation.
44:36Is it your driving force to live up to their expectations?
44:40It's all about that.
44:42I'm happy that Hayasho-san invited me.
44:45I wouldn't be able to finish the show if I didn't get excited.
44:49I'm sad and frustrated.
44:53I'm glad that he invited me again.
44:55I'm sure he'll come back.
44:57I'll be waiting.
44:59You said you'd make the show exciting.
45:01You brought 1,500 people.
45:03I'm sure I'll lose today.
45:06Last night, I saw 1,500 people at the bookshelf.
45:11The moment I saw them, I knew I'd win.
45:16Work is full of pain and suffering.
45:21But there's nothing happier than feeling that people are happy and that you're needed.
45:29That's the driving force of the screenwriter, Kouki Mitani.
45:38I don't know what I'm going to do for the third time.
45:41You said you'd come back for the third time.
45:43But I can't lose.
45:45There's a battle that I can't lose.
45:47That's the winning and losing.
45:49Don't you know the outcome?
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