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00:00The Supreme Court's decision today is a clear one by the way, and it has an almost indictment against the Election Commission of Pakistan.
00:08So, with that in mind, things have changed a little, Mr. Barista.
00:11Yesterday, I was listening to you, you were very confident that you have the numbers.
00:16Let's ask this question again today.
00:18In light of this decision, will you have the numbers that you are thinking of bringing for this constitutional amendment?
00:25Thank you very much.
00:27As confident as I was yesterday, I am still very confident and in the same spirit of confidence.
00:34Even today, I say that the numbers are complete.
00:36How will they be complete? Please break it down.
00:38Did Mr. Maulana give you a commitment?
00:40I can't confirm or deny anything right now, but I saw it on the media today.
00:44I met him yesterday.
00:45His journalist brother also reported.
00:49With the Prime Minister?
00:50Yes, of course.
00:51I met him yesterday, and there is nothing wrong with that.
00:55Of course, all things are being looked at to develop consensus among other political parties.
01:03And of course, when this Charter of Democracy was passed in 2006,
01:08in the same spirit, all things are being looked at in this regard in 2024.
01:12And I think there is a need for time.
01:14And I am on record as saying that the Parliamentary Committee should have a meaningful and purposeful role in the appointment of all judges.
01:25We are stopping ourselves from using it as a rubber stamp, and we have to change all this.
01:31But with a broader consensus, all these legal reforms should be looked at, and they are being looked at.
01:39And the options that are in front of us right now…
01:44Is Mr. Maulana on board?
01:45Look, I can't confirm or deny this.
01:50Okay, if there is no objection, then we will consider it as a confirmation.
01:54But apart from that, your vote is not complete.
01:57You also need the votes of three free people, right?
02:00Whether they are of the Justice Movement or not, that is also a matter of interpretation between the Election Commission and the Supreme Court.
02:05But you need those three votes, right?
02:06Look, as of now, I stand by the statement I gave yesterday.
02:11Right now, as of now, and tomorrow, and beyond that, I think their status is still in the air.
02:21They are independents.
02:22And the Election Commission can tell you this, but the order that has come in light of this short order has created even more confusion.
02:34No, no.
02:40No, they have made it very clear.
02:42They have said that he is from the PTI.
02:44Mr. Gauhar is the chairman of that party.
02:46He is the 41st out of 41 people who have filed an appeal.
02:48They have made it very clear that this is the way of justice.
02:51No one should think that he is free.
02:52Look, the role of one institution cannot be assumed by another institution.
02:56This is the job of the Election Commission of Pakistan.
02:59And they are the regulators for anything pertaining to election matters.
03:03The Supreme Court cannot decide on its own whether to distribute party certificates or hand out party certificates.
03:10Or tell a political party or a candidate that you are from this party or that party.
03:15There should be an interpretation.
03:17Absolutely.
03:18There is no doubt about this.
03:19There is no doubt about this.
03:20But there is one thing for sure.
03:21When the regulator has asked for this,
03:24because there was a misunderstanding,
03:26now in the constitution and the law,
03:31it is clearly written for 3 days.
03:33And how will these 3 days be 15 days?
03:35First, there will be a detailed order.
03:37So, I think there will be an explanation on many things.
03:40How will this decision be justified with the constitutional provision?
03:46That is why after the short order,
03:48the detailed order that has come,
03:50of 4 pages,
03:51which was given by the Honourable Judge,
03:53there is more confusion on this decision.
03:56At present, I stand by it.
03:59These 41 are actually independent.
04:01And you will remember,
04:03in the Election Act of 2017,
04:06in the month of August,
04:08we brought the amendments last month.
04:10And in those amendments, we further clarified
04:12that when a person submits his certificate,
04:17and when the certificate is accepted,
04:20then you cannot compel them.
04:22You cannot, through a court order,
04:25tell them that you are not in this Jamaat,
04:27you are in that Jamaat.
04:28Because, according to our imaginative interpretation,
04:33you belong to a particular Jamaat.
04:35So, if I say that the Supreme Court's
04:37detailed decision today,
04:38you are disregarding it?
04:39Look, I believe that this order
04:41creates even more confusion.
04:44So, what will you do legally after that?
04:46Because the Supreme Court has given clarity