• 2 months ago
Drama/Drama ‧ 1h 19m

Katja und Isabelle sind ein Paar und möchten ein Kind bekommen. Die rechtlichen und gesellschaftlichen Hürden, die dabei genommen werden müssen, bringen ihre Beziehung ins Wanken. Beide merken schnell, wie schwer es ist, als Homosexuelle ein Kind zu bekommen, denn eine Samenbank nach der anderen lehnt sie ab. Nach einer langen Suche finden sie einen Arzt, der auch für homosexuelle Frauen bereit ist, kostspielige Inseminationen durchzuführen. Auch dieser Plan geht schief und scheitert immer wieder. Da jeder Versuch einen hohen finanziellen Aufwand bedeutet, wollen die beiden Frauen sich den Samen privat beschaffen und selbst eine Befruchtung durchführen.

Der Film entstand als szenisch-dokumentarische Mischform, in welcher lediglich die beiden Hauptfiguren mit Schauspielern besetzt wurden. Alle anderen Charaktere sind Laiendarsteller, die sich selbst verkörpern.

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00:00:00You
00:00:30You
00:01:00Oh
00:01:30You
00:02:00You
00:02:12Oh
00:02:30Yeah
00:02:44Come on
00:03:00What do you think of Giuseppe or Vittorio?
00:03:12Or Giorgio?
00:03:15Herbert
00:03:18David, Paul
00:03:23Nuria
00:03:25What? Nuria
00:03:27Is that feminine?
00:03:30I don't think so, but
00:03:32It would be nice
00:03:35To have a girl?
00:03:37Yes
00:03:39I think we can have a girl
00:03:41Laughing
00:03:56Many
00:03:58Many, yes
00:04:00Sigh
00:04:02Be brave, my heart
00:04:04Try your luck
00:04:06Maria called your children
00:04:08Fin and Fine
00:04:10What?
00:04:12What?
00:04:14Fin and Fine
00:04:16Are they twins?
00:04:18No
00:04:20Stupid, right?
00:04:22There is Marienkäfer at the window
00:04:24Maria
00:04:26Ok
00:04:28Yes
00:04:40Children's voices
00:05:04What is Barbara?
00:05:06Do you know anything about Barbara?
00:05:08She has a child, doesn't she?
00:05:10He had a heterosexual relationship before
00:05:14Yes
00:05:16Yes
00:05:18He lives in Stuttgart
00:05:20Can you imagine a father?
00:05:24I don't know
00:05:28I would like to have a father, but no father
00:05:32Something between us, right?
00:05:36Something between us, right?
00:05:38Yes
00:05:40I like it
00:05:42I like it
00:05:44Let's do it
00:05:46Let's do it
00:05:48Let's do it
00:05:51Hello?
00:05:54Hello, my name is Isa
00:05:57I would like to know if I can get a sperm donation from you
00:06:06You are single, right?
00:06:08No, I am a lesbian
00:06:12Yes
00:06:14As far as I know, it is not allowed in Germany
00:06:20What? It is not allowed?
00:06:24I am thinking about it
00:06:26It is only allowed for couples in heterosexual partnerships
00:06:32Please wait
00:06:34Please wait
00:06:40In Baden-Württemberg it could be forbidden and in Brandenburg it is allowed
00:06:46Unfortunately, there are still no uniform legal grounds to regulate it
00:06:54That is why everything is still a bit gray
00:06:58I mean, if they were married in a heterosexual marriage, it would not be a problem
00:07:03But we are also married
00:07:05It is not the same
00:07:10Please wait
00:07:12You will not get the sperm from us, it is forbidden
00:07:15It has to be ordered from Denmark or America
00:07:19It is a drug
00:07:23A drug? What, the sperm?
00:07:26Yes, really
00:07:28Yes, hello, my name is Isa
00:07:31I wanted to ask, do you treat lesbian couples?
00:07:35No, unfortunately not
00:07:37Not at all, why not?
00:07:39Why not?
00:07:41Because according to the guidelines, according to paragraph 121 of the SGBV 5
00:07:52we have to take care of the patients and we can not help lesbian couples in Germany
00:08:01What exactly is the legal gap or what is the problem?
00:08:05You are not calling from Cologne, I think you have already called from somewhere else
00:08:10Exactly, and I just got so different information, I am so irritated
00:08:15That's why, please excuse my tone
00:08:18No, it's not a problem, but where is the problem now?
00:08:30Hello
00:08:43What's up?
00:08:54What's up?
00:08:57Do you have good news?
00:09:00We have appointments at two sperm banks
00:09:03Why do you get an appointment and I don't?
00:09:07Well, we have to go to the lawyers first
00:09:11What kind of lawyers?
00:09:12To the lawyers of the doctor, each
00:09:14But that's uncomplicated, right?
00:09:17Yes, I think so
00:09:19We write down what we earn and then give it to the doctor and then they say yes
00:09:24We just have to go to a lawyer and then we can go to the sperm bank
00:09:27Yes
00:09:37That's really true with the 120,000, how much was that?
00:09:41Somewhere I read that, how much you have to invest for a child
00:09:46120,000 for a child?
00:09:49Where was that again?
00:09:51In one of these advisors
00:09:54What does that mean?
00:09:56I don't know
00:09:57I don't have a feeling for money
00:10:00I never feel like it
00:10:02Yes, but there's a lot coming at you
00:10:06But I always feel like we have enough
00:10:09Lisa, we are two right now
00:10:11Yes, but we have a great apartment and we have a car
00:10:16I don't know, we have everything, we're going on vacation
00:10:19I never look at money
00:10:46Good day
00:10:54There are a lot of men
00:10:56Good day
00:10:58Mrs. Bürgeli and Mrs. Maisch
00:11:00Yes, Mrs. Maisch, Dr. Müller
00:11:02Without Dr. Müller
00:11:04Good day
00:11:05Come in
00:11:06Kicker
00:11:07That's what we call it
00:11:08Do you play regularly?
00:11:09Yes, sometimes to get something down
00:11:12From what?
00:11:13From clients who annoy me
00:11:15Yes
00:11:16Dr. Sokowski asked you to speak to me
00:11:20It's about clarifying your income
00:11:23so that we can then decide
00:11:26whether you are eligible for a donation
00:11:29Are you both employed?
00:11:31She works on a 400 euro basis
00:11:33and I'm a deputy branch manager in a video store
00:11:37How is your income?
00:11:38Very good
00:11:39I brought some documents
00:11:41Speak to me when I tell you
00:11:43These are 2, 2 gross
00:11:46and tax class 3
00:11:48That's about 1, 6, 1, 7 net
00:11:52Florist and video store owner
00:11:58It's important to see if we can afford it
00:12:02to have Kim
00:12:04Yes, it's very simple
00:12:08Dr. Sokowski has committed himself
00:12:11to not giving away his identity
00:12:14until the 18th year of his life
00:12:17Yes, that's true
00:12:19Now the question is
00:12:21what happens if you can't afford the child
00:12:24if you fall into an economic slump
00:12:27then the situation is that
00:12:29Dr. Sokowski is not eligible
00:12:32and he wants to avoid that
00:12:35You're right, you can avoid that
00:12:38That's why Dr. Sokowski only gives out donations
00:12:42to those who are economically very liquid
00:12:45and who are not to be expected
00:12:47I also have my parents
00:12:49and I also have an aunt
00:12:51from whom I will inherit something
00:12:53apart from that
00:12:55Inheriting is like lottery
00:12:57Your aunt can think about it differently
00:12:59I would stay at home for 3 years
00:13:02with the child
00:13:03and then I would start working again
00:13:05But you don't have a complete education
00:13:07You will hang around somewhere
00:13:09as a waitress or as a service florist
00:13:12For us, the guideline is
00:13:153-5 net per partner
00:13:193-5 net per partner
00:13:25But we are here with the lawyer
00:13:28Can't we do that in some way
00:13:31No
00:13:32Can't we do that in some way
00:13:35My husband can't help you
00:13:38under these circumstances
00:13:40But a heterosexual couple
00:13:41wouldn't have to do that, right?
00:13:43No
00:13:44I just asked her
00:13:46I don't understand
00:13:47Would it be enough
00:13:48if the man was 3,500 or 2,200?
00:13:50The woman doesn't ask us
00:13:52We're not here to discuss
00:13:54any kind of injustice
00:13:56But I feel like I'm being treated unfairly
00:13:58Yes, but I'm the wrong person
00:14:00You can turn to the legislature
00:14:02you can turn to the government
00:14:03you can turn to the family minister
00:14:04or whatever
00:14:06I'm not the right person for this
00:14:19Thank you
00:14:30Thank you
00:15:01Hello
00:15:12Welcome to the Saarbrücker Private Institute
00:15:15for Replantation Medicine
00:15:17Unfortunately, all employees are currently in a patient conversation
00:15:31Thank you for your patience
00:15:52Thank you
00:15:53Have a seat
00:15:54Have a seat
00:15:55Thank you
00:15:57You're welcome
00:16:00Thank you
00:16:07Have a seat
00:16:08The second act is coming up
00:16:11Who wants to get pregnant?
00:16:13Me
00:16:16I want to get pregnant
00:16:17Alright
00:16:18Do you want to be the partner?
00:16:20Please
00:16:21Yes
00:16:22How much does it cost?
00:16:24We'll talk about that later
00:16:25We'll start with what it costs
00:16:28How old were you when you had your first period?
00:16:30I think I was 14
00:16:3114
00:16:32Have you ever been pregnant?
00:16:33No
00:16:34Have you ever tried to get pregnant with a man?
00:16:36No
00:16:37Do you know your blood type?
00:16:38Zero
00:16:39Do you know your blood type?
00:16:41A, B, negative
00:16:43A, B, negative
00:16:44That's rare
00:16:45If you were a man, I could make you a donor
00:16:49It's like this
00:16:50The success rate is about 20-30% per cycle
00:16:54That means that 70-80% won't get pregnant
00:16:58You have to digest that
00:17:00You spend money on a treatment
00:17:02that harms your 70-80%
00:17:06Can we get treatment from you?
00:17:08Yes, of course
00:17:09Really?
00:17:10That's why you came
00:17:11Otherwise I wouldn't have given you an appointment
00:17:13It's coming up
00:17:15I've prepared it
00:17:19That's great
00:17:20I'm very happy
00:17:21I'll show you how we did it
00:17:24You can't imagine how many no's I've heard
00:17:28It's usually the case that there are very few doctors
00:17:32who help women and men
00:17:34That's why I think there are only 4 or 5 in our area
00:17:38Yes, I noticed that
00:17:40I'm the only one in the southwest
00:17:42There's no hook on us yet
00:17:44The only hook is
00:17:46when the women are around 25-30
00:17:49they all get pregnant
00:17:51I'm 37
00:17:52Then they need a bit of support
00:17:54Then they get a hormone injection
00:17:57and it can get a bit more expensive
00:17:59How much more expensive is it?
00:18:03What does it cost?
00:18:04We don't know the price yet
00:18:06I have to look up the cost
00:18:17Once they come
00:18:19and they get a standard treatment
00:18:21with a standard amount of semen
00:18:23they start at 500 euros
00:18:25You don't have to pay a basic fee
00:18:27What do we have here?
00:18:292750
00:18:30And if they get pregnant
00:18:32and want a second child
00:18:33they have to pay it again
00:18:36And now we have to pay something, right?
00:18:39Today?
00:18:40You'll get a bill in the mail
00:18:49I'm sorry
00:19:06The probability of a pregnancy
00:19:08is much higher when the woman is excited
00:19:11When she feels loved and protected
00:19:14at the moment of insemination
00:19:16As if nature had designed the body
00:19:23What are you doing there?
00:19:26What can you do there?
00:19:29Life is beautiful, isn't it?
00:19:31The doctor can go out
00:19:42How much is in there now?
00:19:4410 million
00:19:47Take mine
00:19:49Take it from the changing room
00:19:51behind the curtain
00:19:53Open the bottom
00:19:55and put it here
00:19:58Can I help you?
00:20:00Thank you
00:20:10When they come from the left
00:20:12don't stand in the way
00:20:14Thank you
00:20:28So, there's still room down here
00:20:30Like this
00:20:42So, lay down on your legs
00:20:44Exactly
00:20:48Like this
00:20:50And now
00:20:52You can go
00:20:54Thank you
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00:20:59It's a little cold
00:21:02It's taking a little while
00:21:05The catheter will be inserted here
00:21:08It will be injected
00:21:10Can you feel something?
00:21:12Yes
00:21:13That's good
00:21:14And that's it
00:21:16Yes?
00:21:17As you can see
00:21:18Lift the flap again
00:21:19and lie down
00:21:21And that's it
00:21:27Let's go
00:21:35Do you like it?
00:21:37Yes, thank you
00:21:57Do you feel good?
00:21:59Very good, thank you
00:22:01That's it
00:22:03Do you feel something?
00:22:05I do
00:22:07Let me see
00:22:13I feel something
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00:25:15My film is here
00:25:17Which film?
00:25:19The one I ordered
00:25:23Thank you
00:25:27I thought about opening my own video library
00:25:33A little art video library
00:25:35Can you give me the basket in there?
00:25:37Please
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00:28:59That's it. I'm going to wash my teeth now.
00:29:03You're welcome.
00:29:04Bye.
00:29:07Hello.
00:29:11I'm looking for something that...
00:29:13...that I can use to artificially inject sperm into my vagina.
00:29:20Okay, so a syringe, I guess.
00:29:23Yeah, I don't really know what you...
00:29:36I was thinking of a syringe, but then you'd have to dilute the semen a bit.
00:29:41It has to fit through the little opening up here.
00:29:44It's not good if you dilute it, is it?
00:29:47Of course not, but you have to dilute it, otherwise they'll eat it.
00:29:51They'll have a huge loss, and in the end it'll just stick to the sperm.
00:29:55I need something that really works well.
00:29:57Yeah.
00:29:58Something that really works.
00:30:00You probably don't have a lot of trial options.
00:30:03No, I don't.
00:30:05What I could think of, and I hope you don't get me wrong,
00:30:08I could think of a vet.
00:30:10They do that a lot.
00:30:12But they'd have to have a big animal in their head,
00:30:15maybe a bigger dog that weighs as much as them, Pascal.
00:30:21Doing it yourself is of course more romantic, but...
00:30:26We don't really want to go to the vet again.
00:30:30We'd really like to do it at home.
00:30:37Yeah, that's difficult.
00:30:39Or, I don't know, maybe you can find some kind of help on the Internet,
00:30:44that someone is building.
00:30:46But I'd be careful, because of course they don't know what they're doing.
00:30:50They don't know what they're doing.
00:30:52But I'd be careful, because of course they don't know what they're doing.
00:30:57They don't want to get hurt.
00:30:59So you have to be careful.
00:31:23Aunt Yvonne will lend us the 7,000 euros.
00:31:28We should never have come back.
00:31:32I just don't want you to work even more.
00:31:5232, that's not it either.
00:31:55But what should it be?
00:31:57Can it be 22?
00:31:59Is it okay if I just park here somewhere?
00:32:02Yeah, just park here.
00:32:0621, 23, 24.
00:32:08Then it should be the other way around, 22.
00:32:11I don't know.
00:32:13I don't know.
00:32:15I don't know.
00:32:17I don't know.
00:32:19Then it should be the other way around, 22.
00:32:2221, then it should be the other way around, 22.
00:32:2529.
00:32:27Where should the office be?
00:32:29Why don't we look over there again?
00:32:3136.
00:32:3332, not 21.
00:32:35Maybe we have to go the other way.
00:32:37Yeah.
00:32:44What's this?
00:32:47It's an apartment, isn't it?
00:32:49Yes.
00:32:51Hello, please come in.
00:32:53I'm curious, do you know each other?
00:32:55Yes, just like that.
00:32:57You can choose a place.
00:32:59Sofa or here.
00:33:01Here is also in the office.
00:33:03Can I offer you something to drink?
00:33:05Water, Fanta or Cola?
00:33:07Water.
00:33:09Do you also have water without carbon dioxide?
00:33:11Very good.
00:33:17What is this now?
00:33:27You're welcome.
00:33:33Yes, what can I do for you?
00:33:35Tell me.
00:33:37We now want this ...
00:33:39... insemination that we ...
00:33:41... have done with the doctor so far ...
00:33:43... like to do it yourself.
00:33:45Do you have a seed donor?
00:33:47A private one?
00:33:49No.
00:33:51How do you get sperm?
00:33:53We don't want a seed donor ...
00:33:55... from our circle of friends ...
00:33:57... and that's why we don't know yet.
00:33:59Okay.
00:34:01I sell the equipment ...
00:34:03... and I also sell seed donors.
00:34:05Oh, you do that too?
00:34:07Yes, these two things.
00:34:09How do you do that?
00:34:11It's an internet portal on spermaspender.de.
00:34:13Does that cost anything?
00:34:15I think 54 euros for a whole year.
00:34:17So compared to what you have paid ...
00:34:19... at the children's center ...
00:34:21... it's really a clear special offer.
00:34:27Yes.
00:34:29And ...
00:34:31... please.
00:34:33Yes, so that's a set.
00:34:35The set contains everything to do the insemination ...
00:34:37... with syringes or with an insemination cap.
00:34:39There are the syringes, the insemination cap ...
00:34:41... the urine cup and the thermometer.
00:34:43With two comma points ...
00:34:45... you inject the cup.
00:34:47And then you do it like this?
00:34:49Exactly.
00:34:51You can push it up like this.
00:34:53Just pull it in here.
00:34:55I want to explain this to you.
00:34:57It's similar to when I put you down there ...
00:34:59... on the street, in front of the door ...
00:35:01... and explain to you that you are now running ...
00:35:03... a 30-kilometer marathon.
00:35:05But if I go over there ...
00:35:07... and call you a taxi ...
00:35:09... and let you drive up to 500 meters ...
00:35:11... or up to a kilometer in front of the finish line ...
00:35:13... then you can easily make it over the finish line.
00:35:15Aha, and what is the taxi now?
00:35:17The taxi is the cap.
00:35:19The cap is the taxi.
00:35:21So, we are exactly on the subject.
00:35:23Well recognized.
00:35:25The sperm comes into this cap ...
00:35:27... insert it into the vagina ...
00:35:29... and simply push the cap ...
00:35:31... a little bit behind the uterus ...
00:35:33... in the direction of the spleen.
00:35:35And then you can fold up the uterus.
00:35:37I promise you ...
00:35:39... thousands of people have done this before you.
00:35:41You have to go very deep, right?
00:35:43You can insert it more easily ...
00:35:45... if you use a little bit of dressing gel.
00:35:47Do you have something like that?
00:35:49Yes, I can show you.
00:35:51It is recommended for this purpose ...
00:35:53... Presaid.
00:35:55The disadvantage of Presaid is ...
00:35:57... that it is relatively expensive.
00:35:59But that's also in the set, right?
00:36:01That's also in the set.
00:36:03I would also like to explain the advantage.
00:36:05Where do you have a toilet?
00:36:07Yes, please.
00:36:09Just think backwards.
00:36:11On the right side.
00:36:13The special thing about the cap is ...
00:36:15... once the shape, once the bend.
00:36:17This is specially made.
00:37:05With your index finger ...
00:37:07... you can push the sperm cap ...
00:37:09... slightly.
00:37:17The sperm cap can be removed ...
00:37:19... after 30 to 60 minutes.
00:37:27Katja, I'm trying to get pregnant.
00:37:29Yes.
00:37:31With your index finger ...
00:37:33... you can grab the sperm cap ...
00:37:35... and pull it in slightly.
00:37:37The sperm cap can be removed ...
00:37:39... with warm water.
00:37:59Go back to your profile ...
00:38:01... and show me your men again.
00:38:03Yes, I ...
00:38:05... I like everything about him.
00:38:07For example, I like ...
00:38:09... that he is so sporty.
00:38:11I like that he ...
00:38:13... that he ...
00:38:15... that he has a high IQ ...
00:38:17... because he studied.
00:38:19Yes.
00:38:21And the one down there?
00:38:23Why is he marked?
00:38:25He has such nice hobbies.
00:38:27Ah, okay.
00:38:29I just like it ...
00:38:31... because you can see ...
00:38:33... that he is well-groomed.
00:38:35If we were to get a boy ...
00:38:37... I think he would have ...
00:38:39... a sporty body.
00:38:41I suggest you make a list ...
00:38:43... and explain to me ...
00:38:45... who you like and who you don't.
00:38:47There are options.
00:38:49Yes, and then you limit your options.
00:38:51Studied.
00:38:53Student.
00:38:55Does he want money?
00:38:57No. Or does he?
00:38:59Oh, wait.
00:39:01No.
00:39:03No. He wants to help.
00:39:05Yes, it's very nice that he wants to help.
00:39:07Isn't that the worst?
00:39:09No, it's not bad.
00:39:11But I prefer it when they ...
00:39:13... have the money and then ...
00:39:15... that he doesn't want any contact.
00:39:17Why do you think they are gone ...
00:39:19... when they get the money?
00:39:21I don't understand.
00:39:23If I pay someone ...
00:39:25... for a service ...
00:39:27... it's a service.
00:39:29I don't think that's a criterion.
00:39:31What is a better criterion?
00:39:33That he is likeable.
00:39:35That I can ...
00:39:37... imagine it.
00:39:39That I find him pleasant ...
00:39:41... because of what he screams.
00:39:43I don't want to choose ...
00:39:45... if I want to be the father.
00:39:47Yes, I understand.
00:39:49But you don't have sperm.
00:39:51I'm sorry.
00:39:55Look, there's a bird nest.
00:39:57Don't we want to leave?
00:39:59Don't we want to take a half-year baby break?
00:40:01What did you say to the birds?
00:40:03How they do it.
00:40:05We could do an excursion.
00:40:07How do lesbian birds make their children?
00:40:09Lesbian birds don't have children.
00:40:11How do you know that?
00:40:13It's just the way it is.
00:40:15Because we could act like spiders.
00:40:17How do you know that lesbian birds don't have children?
00:40:19So no vacation, right?
00:40:23We could at least visit Sofia and Elli in Italy.
00:40:37I miss you.
00:40:39Look at the little one.
00:40:41Hi.
00:40:47Hello.
00:40:53Did you pick flowers?
00:40:55Yes.
00:41:03Wow, you can stand.
00:41:05How old are you?
00:41:07Five.
00:41:09Do you have siblings?
00:41:11Yes.
00:41:19Do you think I can't do this?
00:41:39No.
00:41:53Hello.
00:41:55I'm Rolf.
00:41:57I'm Pico.
00:41:59I'm Isa.
00:42:01I'm Katja.
00:42:03I'll get something to drink.
00:42:05The last one.
00:42:15Because I lived in South America for a long time.
00:42:17Are you fluent?
00:42:19Yes, very.
00:42:21Do you speak many languages?
00:42:23German, English, Spanish, a little French.
00:42:25And Portuguese.
00:42:27I can speak a little Portuguese.
00:42:29I'm very happy to be here with you.
00:42:31Me too.
00:42:37That's a good start.
00:42:43I can show you a photo of my daughter.
00:42:49I have everything with me.
00:42:51She's three months old.
00:42:53And here she is five.
00:42:55Paperwork, not unimportant.
00:42:59No HIV.
00:43:01No other major defects.
00:43:03I'm also a blood donor.
00:43:05If my blood wasn't clean,
00:43:07they wouldn't have taken it.
00:43:09And you don't cough?
00:43:11I don't cough.
00:43:13Excuse me.
00:43:15Do you have a pair of glasses?
00:43:21Let me think.
00:43:23My father has glasses.
00:43:25I'm getting old.
00:43:27It's short-sighted.
00:43:29I can't read the small print.
00:43:31Can you read it instead of socks?
00:43:33Yes, I can.
00:43:35The small one, the green one,
00:43:37I can't read it anymore.
00:43:39You can't read it anymore?
00:43:41She's my friend.
00:43:43It's normal in my age
00:43:45that you can't read the small print anymore.
00:43:47Okay, good.
00:43:49And the other kids?
00:43:51I know one and I don't know the others.
00:43:53If you were to have a child,
00:43:55you wouldn't want to have any contact?
00:43:57No, not really.
00:43:59If the child is old enough
00:44:01to find out
00:44:03where he's from...
00:44:05Are you ready to say,
00:44:07here's your father?
00:44:09Yes.
00:44:11Do you have to do it?
00:44:13I don't know.
00:44:15How do you do it?
00:44:17Do you want him to come to you
00:44:19and you do it beforehand?
00:44:21And you do it beforehand
00:44:23and then you pick him up?
00:44:25I don't like to do it.
00:44:27For me it's not an issue.
00:44:29So either
00:44:31naturally or not at all?
00:44:37There's no in-between.
00:44:39Would you want to do it naturally
00:44:41with one of us?
00:44:43I could imagine that.
00:44:45Even if we don't like men at all?
00:44:47I don't want to
00:44:49marry anyone of you.
00:44:53A woman is still a woman.
00:44:55I don't care about orientation.
00:44:57You don't care?
00:44:59I don't want to marry her.
00:45:03And you don't like sex?
00:45:07I would have to lie
00:45:09if I said I didn't care.
00:45:11It's not...
00:45:13Let's say it's a pleasant
00:45:15but it's not the main topic.
00:45:19But a little bit?
00:45:23You can think about it.
00:45:31The problem is
00:45:33if it was only once
00:45:35it wouldn't be so bad
00:45:37but you have to expect it to happen more often.
00:45:41Okay.
00:45:43Okay.
00:45:45We have to go.
00:45:47Sorry.
00:45:51Good luck.
00:45:53Thank you for your time.
00:46:05Can't you always say I'm sorry?
00:46:09What was that?
00:46:11I don't know. I thought...
00:46:17What?
00:46:19What did you think?
00:46:21I'm really sorry.
00:46:23I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
00:46:25It's always about you.
00:46:27And at some point
00:46:29you'll go to bed with some guy.
00:46:31Or you'll choose a guy
00:46:33and start a family with him.
00:46:35I left immediately.
00:46:37That's for sure.
00:46:39It's just...
00:46:41I'm really sorry, Katja.
00:46:43I know you're sorry.
00:46:45Just forget it.
00:46:51What's so bad about it?
00:46:53You're the mother, yes?
00:46:55And then there's a second one.
00:46:57That's the father.
00:46:59What am I then?
00:47:01Third wheel in the car, I mean.
00:47:05That's not true at all.
00:47:07He's the most important person
00:47:09in my life.
00:47:11Still.
00:47:13What do you mean, still?
00:47:15Look at you.
00:47:17Still.
00:47:19Look at you.
00:47:21Look at you.
00:47:23Please.
00:47:25It's unfair what you're doing.
00:47:27Do you realize that?
00:47:29I just want a child.
00:47:31Exactly.
00:47:33I just want a child.
00:47:35I know you want a child.
00:48:05I love you.
00:48:35Okay.
00:49:01Damn, we owe two bombs.
00:49:03The car.
00:49:13Kitty.
00:49:15Meow, meow.
00:49:17And this?
00:49:19A dog.
00:49:21Woof, woof, woof.
00:49:23Owl.
00:49:25Ashen poodle.
00:49:27And what's your name?
00:49:29Nikolaus.
00:49:31And what about me?
00:49:33Mama.
00:49:53Come here.
00:49:57Do you want to take your book?
00:50:01No.
00:50:31Wow.
00:50:51How old are you?
00:50:5334.
00:51:01How tall are you?
00:51:03Almost 2 meters.
00:51:05Is everyone in your family that tall?
00:51:07Yes.
00:51:11Yes.
00:51:13Make it beautiful.
00:51:15Yes, look how beautiful she is.
00:51:17Right?
00:51:19Yes, she's beautiful.
00:51:21And now you can let go.
00:51:23Why?
00:51:31Sorry.
00:51:55How big is that?
00:52:01I don't know.
00:52:05When I'm pregnant.
00:52:09In the third month is the best time to travel.
00:52:11Because then it's safe.
00:52:13There is not so often a departure.
00:52:17And then we could maybe
00:52:19look for a cheap little house
00:52:21somewhere on a lake.
00:52:23Or on the Baltic Sea.
00:52:25What do you think?
00:52:27You have to do a lot of good.
00:52:53We have a question.
00:52:55Just in general.
00:52:59So you definitely do it
00:53:01in the cup?
00:53:03Definitely.
00:53:05Other things are not up for debate.
00:53:07Not?
00:53:09No.
00:53:11That would be 100 euros, right?
00:53:15Or the donation and the trip.
00:53:17So that's actually 200 euros.
00:53:19Roughly.
00:53:21Can I ask you a personal question?
00:53:23Why do you do it?
00:53:25I do it for two reasons.
00:53:27First, to make money.
00:53:29I do it because I have
00:53:31had the experience
00:53:33that it is very difficult
00:53:35if you can't have children yourself.
00:53:37Do you feel that people
00:53:39influence you too much?
00:53:41The bureaucracy too much?
00:53:43So for the fact that
00:53:45everyone else can do it with every child.
00:53:47It's pretty high for that.
00:53:49Yes.
00:53:51When was the last time?
00:53:53Donation?
00:53:55That was Thursday and Friday.
00:53:57Early.
00:53:59The same cup.
00:54:01They were at the hotel in Munich.
00:54:03How long have you been doing this?
00:54:05I've been doing it for three years now.
00:54:07Three years regularly?
00:54:09More or less.
00:54:11And how many children do you have now?
00:54:1320.
00:54:15You have 20 children?
00:54:17In three years?
00:54:19Yes.
00:54:21That sounds good.
00:54:23I think it's very good.
00:54:25I don't question the feasibility.
00:54:27Exactly.
00:54:29Did you get more boys or girls?
00:54:31More girls.
00:54:33Oh, good.
00:54:49If we were so far now
00:54:51that we all three
00:54:53think it's great,
00:54:55could you join us?
00:54:57Because it's a little closer.
00:54:59You can join us now.
00:55:01Great.
00:55:03Well then.
00:55:05Yes, let's have another sip.
00:55:07Let's have another sip and then we'll talk.
00:55:09So then?
00:55:11Yes, let's have another sip.
00:55:13Let's have another sip and then we'll talk.
00:55:15Yes, let's have another sip and then we'll talk.
00:55:17So then?
00:55:25Do you want to ask us anything else?
00:55:29I would like to see the child every three months.
00:55:31For an hour or two.
00:55:35Whether it's over two weeks or not
00:55:37may not be quite so, but I would like to see it.
00:55:41That's good.
00:55:43Every three months.
00:55:45That has to be done first for 20 children.
00:55:47And there will be even more.
00:55:53It's okay.
00:56:15Okay.
00:56:37So there's the bathroom back there.
00:56:45Sorry.
00:56:51No, I don't need it, thank you.
00:56:53You don't need it at all?
00:56:55No.
00:56:57And then I have the cup.
00:56:59Wonderful.
00:57:15So.
00:57:45Okay.
00:58:15Water.
00:58:27You're welcome.
00:58:45It's also pretty slimy.
00:58:55I don't know if I'm moist enough.
00:58:57I'll take a look.
00:59:07Open it, please.
00:59:17Okay.
00:59:19Yes.
00:59:27Okay.
00:59:31Okay.
00:59:39You have a lot.
00:59:43A little more.
00:59:45A little more?
00:59:47Yes.
00:59:57Okay.
01:00:27Okay.
01:00:57You can't hold your fingers anymore.
01:01:03Do it a little faster.
01:01:19Too fast, too fast.
01:01:21No, no, no.
01:01:27Katja.
01:01:29Would you like to do it with your tongue?
01:01:35You don't have to say anything.
01:01:37It's okay.
01:01:43It's okay.
01:01:51It's okay.
01:02:15Do you want me to sit down?
01:02:21Yes.
01:02:51Oh.
01:02:53Oh.
01:03:09Oh.
01:03:11I think I want to use this weird tampon again.
01:03:13I'm running out of sperm.
01:03:15Oh.
01:03:17Do you have a handkerchief?
01:03:19Do you have a handkerchief?
01:03:21Why was the sauce in the pot with the noodles?
01:03:25What? Which sauce?
01:03:27The sauce last night.
01:03:29Why the what?
01:03:31Why the sauce in the pot with the noodles
01:03:33boiled for at least five hours
01:03:35so that the noodles are not edible at all.
01:03:39I don't know.
01:03:41Did you turn the stove on again?
01:03:43Was I working?
01:03:45You never said that.
01:03:47That's how I do it all the time.
01:03:49I rinse the pot
01:03:51and then I put it all together.
01:03:57I don't understand.
01:03:59You don't understand a lot.
01:04:01Do you hear it now?
01:04:05It wasn't just yesterday.
01:04:07Oh, so you've had it
01:04:09more often than it bothered you.
01:04:11Why didn't you say it then?
01:04:13Why are you saying it today?
01:04:15What's your problem? What's going on, Katja?
01:04:17Talk to me.
01:04:19Ah, there's finally something.
01:04:21Yes, talk to me.
01:04:23Yes, you know exactly what the problem is.
01:04:25No, I don't know what the problem is.
01:04:27I'm trying to get pregnant.
01:04:29Yes, you're trying to get pregnant.
01:04:31Is that your problem?
01:04:33Yes, you're trying to get pregnant.
01:04:35Yes, you're trying to get pregnant.
01:04:37I don't have a private contact with Flo.
01:04:39Oh no, you don't have a private contact with Flo.
01:04:41His name is no longer Go4Gold, his name is Flo.
01:04:43It was his conditions.
01:04:45You also agreed to take him.
01:04:47I forced myself to agree,
01:04:49but I didn't know
01:04:51that you call him every week
01:04:53and don't always say
01:04:55it has to be like this, it has to be like this.
01:04:57We slipped into something.
01:05:03You can't even cook for me in the evening.
01:05:05Baby, baby, baby, baby.
01:05:07Do you want me to end it with Flo?
01:05:09Would you?
01:05:11If you say you can't afford it
01:05:13and you don't want it, fine.
01:05:15Isa, I'm not talking about the money.