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00:00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.

00:00:21Peace be upon you.

00:00:22Good morning to you all.

00:00:23I hope you all had a great start to the day.

00:00:27Just like you wait for our show with impatience, we get an idea from your feedback.

00:00:32Similarly, when I was coming today, the weather was beautiful.

00:00:36I thought it would rain today.

00:00:37Today is a bad day?

00:00:38Yes.

00:00:39By the way, I am Sadaf Ahmed Jabbar.

00:00:40By the way, it must be windy.

00:00:41Ashfaq Izzat Satti is present in front of you.

00:00:43I hope you all will be absolutely fine.

00:00:45As Sadaf has already confirmed your well-being.

00:00:47And the thing is that the weather is obvious.

00:00:50By the way, I am seeing that some cold winds are blowing.

00:00:53And because of that, this impression is lost.

00:00:55And the clouds.

00:00:56Yes, clouds.

00:00:57It means clouds.

00:00:58Yes.

00:00:59Earlier, it was said that the weather is bad because of you.

00:01:01Now, that term is used less.

00:01:03Secondly, the most important thing today is for the ARY family.

00:01:06You would like to announce that?

00:01:08Today is the birthday of the ARY family.

00:01:10It has been two decades.

00:01:13We are thankful to you for the relationship we have with you.

00:01:15We are thankful for the trust, love and affection we have received from you.

00:01:20And in all this time, our journey, whether it is a news platform,

00:01:24whether it is an entertainment platform,

00:01:26whether it is the month of Ramadan,

00:01:28whether it is Eid-ul-Fitr, Eid-ul-Adha,

00:01:30whatever the occasion,

00:01:32whether it is 14th August,

00:01:33we stay connected with you.

00:01:35And we try to put four moons in your happiness.

00:01:39And today, we are very happy.

00:01:42I am so proud of being part of this channel.

00:01:45Because the way this channel has made its name throughout Pakistan,

00:01:49its growth,

00:01:51we have seen it with our own eyes.

00:01:53And of course, the people who have been connected to it have also grown.

00:01:57Sadaf Abdul Jabbar is an example of this.

00:01:59Coming here, I also got a lot of fame and recognition.

00:02:03And there are many people who are part of the ARY family.

00:02:05Especially our team, if we talk about it,

00:02:07whether it is the news team, our show team, or overall.

00:02:10And the other thing you were mentioning, Sadaf,

00:02:13you forgot one thing.

00:02:14Pakistan's first edgy sports channel.

00:02:16Yes.

00:02:17You see that show,

00:02:19the shows that are done on that sports channel,

00:02:22in neighboring countries,

00:02:23wherever cricket is seen,

00:02:25its examples are given there.

00:02:26So that itself is an achievement.

00:02:29Despite all the difficulties,

00:02:30despite the difficulties.

00:02:31Despite the difficulties,

00:02:32the love we get from overseas Pakistanis,

00:02:35we cannot tell you.

00:02:37So there too, ARY News is highly appreciated.

00:02:40Thank you to them too.

00:02:41Not only the viewers in Pakistan,

00:02:43but also the viewers sitting outside,

00:02:45thank you both very much.

00:02:47Now let's come to the important updates of yesterday,

00:02:51Sadaf Abdul Jabbar.

00:02:52It was a big happening day.

00:02:54It was a big happening day.

00:02:55I got a good idea about it.

00:02:57So what happened was that

00:02:59yesterday,

00:03:00Sunday is a holiday,

00:03:02but our political leaders thought

00:03:04that since we normally spend this day on holidays,

00:03:08so why not do something this time?

00:03:12And do something so that the constitution is amended.

00:03:14One is legislation,

00:03:16and the other is the amendment of the constitution.

00:03:18And then some people kept saying

00:03:20that why is it happening in the dark of the night?

00:03:22Holiday day, then dark at night.

00:03:24But the problem was that

00:03:25the purpose could not be fulfilled.

00:03:27Okay, that draft,

00:03:28no one has seen it yet.

00:03:30It is a very unseen draft.

00:03:32I heard that it was shown to Maulana Sahib.

00:03:33Maulana Sahib,

00:03:34Maulana Sahib,

00:03:35Maulana Sahib,

00:03:36yesterday,

00:03:37everyone went to Maulana Sahib's residence

00:03:39to congratulate him.

00:03:41Then we saw that

00:03:42there was no discussion.

00:03:43Then we got the good news that

00:03:45Maulana Sahib is coming,

00:03:46and he is coming to participate in the committee.

00:03:49Maulana Sahib has three numbers,

00:03:51eight numbers.

00:03:52The total number of the present government

00:03:55is 214.

00:03:57And if you want a constitutional amendment,

00:03:59you need 224 numbers.

00:04:03Even then,

00:04:04three or four numbers are less.

00:04:05The situation is that

00:04:06when you have to make a constitutional amendment,

00:04:08you need two-thirds majority.

00:04:10If two or three numbers are less,

00:04:11then this number of 222 is being made.

00:04:13But if Maulana Sahib's eight numbers are added,

00:04:15then the rest can be independent

00:04:17and any other matter.

00:04:19But these eight numbers are very important.

00:04:21So yesterday,

00:04:22Bilawal Bhutto Zardari Sahib was also saying

00:04:24that congratulations on Democracy Day.

00:04:26So yesterday Democracy Day was in its place,

00:04:28but yesterday was Maulana Sahib's day.

00:04:30Basically,

00:04:31everyone's attention was focused on him.

00:04:34People were coming and going.

00:04:36From the morning,

00:04:37in fact,

00:04:38there was a series of meetings with him for two days.

00:04:40Once it happened that

00:04:41one delegation came,

00:04:42and the other delegation was already present in the meeting.

00:04:44So it was the time of the opposition,

00:04:46and he had to wait.

00:04:47Then you see that

00:04:48the members of the PTI

00:04:49also offered Maghrib prayer

00:04:51in Maulana Sahib's house.

00:04:53So I asked him,

00:04:55was the prayer after Maghrib prayer

00:04:57a good prayer?

00:04:59But of course,

00:05:00only Maulana Sahib could answer that.

00:05:02So now,

00:05:04Mashallah,

00:05:05this is the third time this has happened.

00:05:07I was told

00:05:08that this is not the first time,

00:05:09but the third time

00:05:10this prayer has been offered.

00:05:11It has been offered in Imamate.

00:05:12It has been offered in Imamate.

00:05:13Okay.

00:05:14So this is very interesting.

00:05:15Khawaja Asif also spoke,

00:05:17but let's give some updates about today.

00:05:19Now, what happened yesterday?

00:05:21The assembly meeting,

00:05:22which everyone was eagerly waiting for,

00:05:24started at night.

00:05:25Hardly,

00:05:26it lasted for nine minutes,

00:05:27a few seconds,

00:05:28and then it was adjourned for today.

00:05:30So today at 12.30,

00:05:31the National Assembly meeting will be held,

00:05:33and today itself,

00:05:34the Vifaqi Cabinet meeting will also be held.

00:05:36But Khawaja Asif,

00:05:37obviously,

00:05:38when he was leaving the assembly,

00:05:39everyone had to go home,

00:05:40so the journalists asked him

00:05:42the question,

00:05:43what was the matter?

00:05:44So let's see

00:05:45what Khawaja Asif has to say.

00:05:47I think it is because

00:05:49the numbers were not complete.

00:05:51Huzoor, what does Imam Sahib say?

00:05:53I don't know.

00:05:54I was in the assembly.

00:05:56I was in the assembly from morning.

00:05:58So I don't know the facts,

00:06:01what happened.

00:06:03But I think it is because

00:06:04the numbers were not complete.

00:06:06That's why it didn't happen today.

00:06:08Okay, Huzoor,

00:06:09Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Haidri Sahib,

00:06:11who is the leader of JUIFA,

00:06:12he said a very interesting thing,

00:06:14and that was the truth,

00:06:16that he didn't get a chance

00:06:17to read the Constitution.

00:06:19And then he also said

00:06:20that he didn't get a chance.

00:06:22How can you vote without reading it?

00:06:23And he said

00:06:24it will take a month to read the Constitution.

00:06:27A month.

00:06:28The government has said

00:06:30that you are in a hurry.

00:06:32We haven't received the draft yet.

00:06:34We haven't received the bill yet,

00:06:36which is your amendment bill.

00:06:38So when we don't see the bill,

00:06:40when we don't read it,

00:06:42when we don't get a chance,

00:06:44how can we vote?

00:06:46That's why you should delay it

00:06:48so that we can read it.

00:06:50And the other opposition parties

00:06:52should also read it.

00:06:53We will attend the meeting

00:06:55and we will keep our position

00:06:57in front of us.

00:06:59What was the need

00:07:01to be in such a hurry

00:07:03that you are doing this?

00:07:05If you are in a hurry,

00:07:07then we will not be in this position.

00:07:09We need at least a month.

00:07:11Until then,

00:07:13Qazi Faizul Sahib will retire.

00:07:15So let it be.

00:07:17What difference does it make?

00:07:19People come and go.

00:07:21The government has no rights.

00:07:23The government has no rights.

00:07:25When Maulana Faizul Rehman

00:07:27attended the committee meeting,

00:07:29he said that the draft

00:07:31should be shared with all the parties.

00:07:33He gave this suggestion

00:07:35so that everyone can read it and understand it.

00:07:37Today's time has come.

00:07:39The JUI and PTI

00:07:41have agreed on the amendment

00:07:43and Maulana is almost

00:07:45satisfied with the amendment.

00:07:47But how many amendments are there?

00:07:49Some say 20,

00:07:51some say 22, some say 54.

00:07:53So let's go.

00:07:55We have guests with us.

00:07:57The leader and member of the People's Party,

00:07:59Sharmila Farooqui has joined us.

00:08:01Sharmila, thank you so much.

00:08:03Until yesterday, it seemed that

00:08:05when Bilawal was coming out

00:08:07as a symbol of victory,

00:08:09Maulana Faizul Rehman

00:08:11had agreed and when he

00:08:13came to the committee,

00:08:15the process would start.

00:08:17What is the real problem?

00:08:19What is not being agreed upon?

00:08:23Thank you, Sadaf.

00:08:25Yesterday,

00:08:27when the Special Parliamentary Committee

00:08:29was convened,

00:08:31in which Bilawal Bhutto Jardari

00:08:33and Maulana Faizul Rehman

00:08:35participated,

00:08:37the draft legislation

00:08:39was discussed.

00:08:41There were good things discussed.

00:08:43In that committee,

00:08:45there were representatives

00:08:47of all parties, including the opposition.

00:08:49The People's Party's policy

00:08:51has always been

00:08:53consensus politics.

00:08:55We want to develop a consensus

00:08:57and legislate.

00:08:59Because this is the

00:09:01democracy that works

00:09:03in this way.

00:09:05And because the amendments

00:09:07that were coming,

00:09:09were not only for the

00:09:11betterment of other institutions,

00:09:13but also for the betterment

00:09:15of the people.

00:09:17And when you bring

00:09:19amendments,

00:09:21you bring them according

00:09:23to the situation.

00:09:25In March, there were more

00:09:27than 100 meetings.

00:09:29After that,

00:09:31there was consensus.

00:09:33Maulana Faizul Rehman wants

00:09:35this to be unanimous.

00:09:37We want it to be unanimous

00:09:39and no one should object.

00:09:41Even if there is a delay of one or two days,

00:09:43there is no limit.

00:09:45Because no one is in a hurry.

00:09:47This is a parliament.

00:09:49No one is in a hurry.

00:09:51But one thing is that

00:09:53the amendments that you are

00:09:55proposing,

00:09:57the media is saying

00:09:59what can possibly happen.

00:10:01No one got the constitution.

00:10:03No one read the constitution.

00:10:05The amendments were tried

00:10:07on Sunday.

00:10:09The amendments were tried on Sunday.

00:10:11But there is no government

00:10:13in Ujlat.

00:10:15There was no government in Ujlat.

00:10:17And the things that are

00:10:19going on in the media,

00:10:21there is no such

00:10:23amendment.

00:10:25There is not?

00:10:27For instance?

00:10:29There are a lot of speculations.

00:10:31This has to happen, that has to happen,

00:10:33this is happening, that is happening.

00:10:35These are speculations.

00:10:37So, Sharmila,

00:10:39is there no

00:10:41court or are the age of the judges

00:10:43not increasing for retirement?

00:10:45There will always be a

00:10:47court.

00:10:49And this is in our

00:10:51Charter of Democracy.

00:10:53Our MISA

00:10:55which was signed by

00:10:57Mrs. Benue Bhutto and Mr. Mian,

00:10:59there are a lot of things

00:11:01from 2006

00:11:03which are in the MISA

00:11:05which have not been implemented yet.

00:11:07We are trying to bring them under

00:11:09implementation and if

00:11:11there is a need for amendment,

00:11:13then we will definitely do it.

00:11:15We talked about this in Parliament

00:11:17that there are a lot of cases

00:11:19which are not being addressed.

00:11:21People's problems are not being solved.

00:11:23In constitutional cases, the courts

00:11:25I was talking about speculation

00:11:27because this person is not

00:11:29specific.

00:11:31This is being debated a lot in the media.

00:11:33There is nothing wrong

00:11:35in this.

00:11:37This is a very democratic way

00:11:39of handling the situation.

00:11:41But, Sharmila,

00:11:43you said that the things

00:11:45which are being debated in the media

00:11:47are not there.

00:11:49Can you tell us

00:11:51because we will be educated

00:11:53if you can tell us

00:11:55what has been suggested?

00:11:57To be very honest with you,

00:11:59the entire agreement

00:12:01has not been shared.

00:12:03So, I can only tell you

00:12:05what has been shared.

00:12:07But, there are a lot of things

00:12:09which are being discussed.

00:12:13We do not know about that.

00:12:15How can you be so sure

00:12:17that there is no speculation

00:12:19in this case?

00:12:21We are parliamentarians.

00:12:23When we sit in Eman for 10 hours,

00:12:25we discuss.

00:12:27We know something.

00:12:29We know whether this is

00:12:31necessary for democracy or not.

00:12:33We are told

00:12:35if there is such a thing or not.

00:12:37I think that

00:12:39there are some wild speculations

00:12:41which are not true.

00:12:43They are not true at all.

00:12:45When this constitutional amendment

00:12:47will eventually come,

00:12:49this party will definitely take care of it.

00:12:51One thing is that your party

00:12:53is a part of the government.

00:12:55You are saying that the constitutional amendment

00:12:57should have been presented

00:12:59for voting.

00:13:01You are a learned politician.

00:13:03You do not know

00:13:05what is there in the constitution

00:13:07which is necessary to read and understand.

00:13:09It is not an easy task.

00:13:11You should ask this question

00:13:13to your alliance.

00:13:15You should ask this question

00:13:17to the Prime Minister

00:13:19or whoever is hiding the constitution.

00:13:21It is not about hiding.

00:13:23We trust our leadership.

00:13:25I am speaking from the platform

00:13:27of the Super Party.

00:13:29We have full confidence in the chairman.

00:13:31He is the son of the late

00:13:33Benazir Bhutto.

00:13:35He has seen that his wife has

00:13:37sacrificed her life for democracy.

00:13:39The constitutional amendment will be

00:13:41for the betterment of the nation

00:13:43and the dignity of the parliament.

00:13:45We are party loyalists.

00:13:47We will vote where we are told to vote.

00:13:49But you are supposed to read it.

00:13:51Yes, we do.

00:13:53We read the constitution

00:13:55before it is presented to the people.

00:13:57Are you saying that

00:13:59Bilawal Bhutto knows

00:14:01all the details

00:14:03of the constitution?

00:14:05The party leadership

00:14:07definitely knows.

00:14:09He is sitting in the committee

00:14:11and discussing.

00:14:13Whether it is the chairman

00:14:15Bilawal Bhutto,

00:14:17Maulana Fazlur Rehman

00:14:19or other members of the party

00:14:21They know.

00:14:23They are discussing.

00:14:25The discussion is on the constitution.

00:14:27They don't know

00:14:29about the opposition.

00:14:31He knows.

00:14:33He is sitting in that meeting

00:14:35and they are discussing clause by clause.

00:14:37One more thing,

00:14:39to convince Maulana

00:14:41many methods

00:14:43are being used.

00:14:45It is being said that

00:14:47the government has everything to offer.

00:14:49I have heard that

00:14:51Bilawal has even

00:14:53put Kundi's resignation

00:14:55in front of Maulana.

00:14:57If he wants the governorship,

00:14:59he can get it.

00:15:01Is it true?

00:15:03No, it is not true.

00:15:05We are a democratic party.

00:15:07It is a give and take.

00:15:09If you want to do this,

00:15:11you will get it.

00:15:13It is a re-discussion.

00:15:15In Pakistani politics?

00:15:17Again,

00:15:19on behalf of my party,

00:15:21I can say that my party

00:15:23does not trade such things.

00:15:25It is not like you

00:15:27have put the constitution.

00:15:29The constitution is being discussed.

00:15:31Maulana

00:15:33participated yesterday.

00:15:35He got the constitution

00:15:37a day or two ago.

00:15:39Will he agree today?

00:15:41Today is a very important day.

00:15:43I don't know

00:15:45whether he will agree today or not.

00:15:47You can ask Maulana

00:15:49and his party.

00:15:51We will try

00:15:53to develop a consensus

00:15:55on all the issues.

00:15:57Maulana has his own

00:15:59observations.

00:16:01He will talk about what he thinks is better.

00:16:03Our job is

00:16:05to

00:16:07make the parliament active.

00:16:09We have to improve the status

00:16:11of the parliament.

00:16:13It will take time.

00:16:15It will take time.

00:16:17Yesterday,

00:16:19we thought Sunday

00:16:21was the only day to vote.

00:16:23Now, you are saying it will take time.

00:16:25Sadaf,

00:16:27when you sit with representatives

00:16:29of so many parties,

00:16:31everybody has a say.

00:16:33Everyone's opinion is important.

00:16:35Whether it is of the treasury benches

00:16:37or the opposition.

00:16:39It may take a day or two.

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00:19:01Maria was saying that

00:19:03this will not happen.

00:19:05It did not happen today.

00:19:07What are the chances today?

00:19:09Sharmila Sahiba was with us.

00:19:11Very interestingly, she said

00:19:13that she has also not seen

00:19:15Musawwida Nida.

00:19:17Who has seen Musawwida Nida?

00:19:19The world is based on hope.

00:19:21We should not give up hope.

00:19:23This is a very strange

00:19:25kind of event in

00:19:27the history of

00:19:29parliament.

00:19:31There is a lot of

00:19:33speculation on

00:19:35this event.

00:19:37No one has

00:19:39Musawwida Nida yet.

00:19:41Yesterday you saw

00:19:43that I also got

00:19:45Musawwida Nida.

00:19:47I don't know if they got it or not.

00:19:49There is a lot of debate

00:19:51on social media.

00:19:53This is a Musawwida

00:19:55that the government

00:19:57has prepared.

00:19:59If they are going to

00:20:01become a part of the

00:20:03constitution of Pakistan,

00:20:05then God knows.

00:20:07But tell me, Khawar,

00:20:09this is a Musawwida

00:20:11that the opposition

00:20:13members, government

00:20:15members, Arqan,

00:20:17leadership, and the

00:20:19legal fraternity

00:20:21do not know about.

00:20:23Where did this fire

00:20:25come from?

00:20:55No one knows

00:20:57what Musawwida is yet.

00:20:59Yesterday when it was asked

00:21:01to give it, it was said

00:21:03that until the constitution

00:21:05does not enforce it,

00:21:07the constitution does not

00:21:09endorse it formally,

00:21:11it cannot be made public.

00:21:13Again, it is very

00:21:15important for the government,

00:21:17for Pakistan, for the

00:21:19people of Pakistan, for civil society

00:21:21that whatever Musawwida

00:21:23wants to do, it should be

00:21:25shared with the people.

00:21:27Share it with the people

00:21:29through the media.

00:21:31Khawar, tell me one thing,

00:21:33yesterday everyone was very hopeful

00:21:35about Bilawal.

00:21:37His optics are very metal.

00:21:39The body language with which he was

00:21:41coming, that the numbers were full,

00:21:43he was saying in the beginning

00:21:45that the sign of victory was

00:21:47coming out of Maulana's residence.

00:21:49But later, Khawaja Asif,

00:21:51Maulana Sahib did not agree

00:21:53with the amendments.

00:21:55Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Haidri,

00:21:57when he was asked,

00:21:59it will take time, he said

00:22:01yes, it can take time.

00:22:03He said that after a month

00:22:05the Chief Justice will leave.

00:22:07He said that a new Chief Justice

00:22:09will come.

00:22:11So this matter,

00:22:13if it is solved even today,

00:22:15it is not visible,

00:22:17it means it will take time.

00:22:19The amendments that have been

00:22:21published on social media

00:22:23or you are seeing on

00:22:25television screens,

00:22:27on the basis of means,

00:22:29that this is the amendment,

00:22:31those are such amendments

00:22:33on which you need

00:22:35a lot of debate.

00:22:37It is not that you just

00:22:39shared it and then

00:22:41passed it.

00:22:43For example,

00:22:45one amendment is

00:22:47that Article 17 of the Constitution

00:22:49is about restricting a political party.

00:22:51And the change

00:22:53that has been suggested in it

00:22:55is that instead of the Supreme Court

00:22:57of Pakistan,

00:22:59the Federal Constitutional Court

00:23:01has been replaced.

00:23:03This means that a new

00:23:05Constitutional Court will be formed.

00:23:07Now how will the Chief Justice

00:23:09appoint the new Constitutional Court?

00:23:11The Prime Minister will nominate him.

00:23:13And then the Chief Justice

00:23:15first has to decide on a full court

00:23:17to ban a political party.

00:23:19Now this Constitutional Court

00:23:21...

00:23:23And you think that the name

00:23:25that the Prime Minister will appoint,

00:23:27that is, will the Prime Minister have the authority

00:23:29and it is also clear from the removal

00:23:31that there will be a way to manage it,

00:23:33then why will he be able to work freely?

00:23:35Then the question arises,

00:23:37will it be parallel?

00:23:39If a decision is made in that Constitutional Court,

00:23:41will it be able to go to the Supreme Court

00:23:43and if the Supreme Court sees this decision,

00:23:45then where will the inter-court appeal

00:23:47or appeal be made?

00:23:49There are so many questions that need to be answered.

00:23:51You have explained

00:23:53all this very intelligently.

00:23:55I have only told you about one section.

00:23:57You have raised so many questions

00:23:59on it.

00:24:01So in it,

00:24:03there are dozens of sections.

00:24:05I mean,

00:24:07there is a lot of

00:24:09things on social media.

00:24:11All this discussion

00:24:13will continue

00:24:15until the government

00:24:17officially

00:24:19with its stamp

00:24:21that the Prime Minister

00:24:23will not make a draft

00:24:25that this is the draft

00:24:27that we are taking to Parliament.

00:24:31Is there any specific reason

00:24:33for not making it public?

00:24:35Why?

00:24:37It is a matter of intention.

00:24:39The experts have told us

00:24:41that if your intention is clear,

00:24:43if you want to work with

00:24:45intention, then there is no

00:24:47problem in hiding it.

00:24:49Because everyone is saying

00:24:51that they should give us the draft

00:24:53and put it in front of us.

00:24:55So that we can tell you

00:24:57about it.

00:24:59So that we can share

00:25:01our opinion with you.

00:25:03Mr. Khawaja, one thing is very important.

00:25:05You see that

00:25:07this is a very important thing.

00:25:09Especially when we talk about

00:25:11the draft,

00:25:13only a few of them are

00:25:15on social media.

00:25:17Mr. Arshad Sharif used to say

00:25:19that the devil lies in the details.

00:25:21It is very important

00:25:23to see the details

00:25:25that are being passed on

00:25:27because that is very important.

00:25:29So this will also be

00:25:31a big thing to see.

00:25:33The high court judges

00:25:35will also be transferred

00:25:37within the high courts.

00:25:39Another very interesting

00:25:41suggestion is that

00:25:43only on the basis of a

00:25:45source report,

00:25:47a judge can be removed

00:25:49from the Supreme Court.

00:25:51Now who will make that source report?

00:25:53It will be on the

00:25:55level of vetting.

00:25:57Because first of all,

00:25:59Article 209 of the Supreme Judicial Council

00:26:01is very clear that

00:26:03when a person is accused of a crime,

00:26:05he gets a chance

00:26:07to defend himself

00:26:09through an independent lawyer.

00:26:11But here it is completely different.

00:26:13There are other cases

00:26:15where the right to bail

00:26:17is being terminated.

00:26:19According to the

00:26:21suggestions that we have

00:26:23received.

00:26:25And the most important question

00:26:27that you raised is that

00:26:29when you make two courts,

00:26:31the Supreme Court of Pakistan

00:26:33or the Chief Justice

00:26:35of Pakistan

00:26:37will be terminated.

00:26:39Because now all those things

00:26:41will go to the

00:26:43Federal Constitutional Court.

00:26:45So what will be the

00:26:47status of this Supreme Court?

00:26:49There are a lot of questions

00:26:51about that.

00:26:53Who will head the Law and Justice Commission?

00:26:55Who will look after the Supreme Judicial Council?

00:26:57There are so many things.

00:26:59It is said that

00:27:01the membership of the Supreme Judicial Council

00:27:03will be increased.

00:27:05So whatever it is,

00:27:07whatever the government

00:27:09wants to do,

00:27:11first put it on the table.

00:27:13Present it.

00:27:15Yes, present it.

00:27:17After that...

00:27:19We were seeing that even Waleed Iqbal

00:27:21is saying that he did not see the Constitution.

00:27:23The opposition also did not see it.

00:27:25Nobody saw it.

00:27:27Khawar Ghumman did not see it.

00:27:29We did not see it.

00:27:31So who is left?

00:27:33Thank you so much.

00:27:35Let's see what happens today.

00:27:37We will take a break.

00:27:39We will be back after the break.

00:27:47Welcome back once again.

00:27:49We were talking about

00:27:51the constitutional amendment.

00:27:53Nobody read the Constitution

00:27:55and nobody read the Constitution.

00:27:57You saw our conversation with Sharmila Faruqi.

00:27:59Many parties

00:28:01are saying that

00:28:03they do not know.

00:28:05The government is also involved.

00:28:07But there are a lot of news

00:28:09that Sharmila was saying

00:28:11that there is a lot of wild speculation.

00:28:13Let's talk to Pakistan's

00:28:15Senator Humayun Mohammad.

00:28:17Abid Zubairi is with us.

00:28:19Thank you so much.

00:28:21Humayun,

00:28:23to what extent

00:28:25does your party know

00:28:27what is in the Constitution?

00:28:29Obviously, your reservation is in front of us.

00:28:31But the development that took place last night

00:28:33in which it was said by Maulana

00:28:35to share it in the committee.

00:28:37Do you think the Constitution will be shared now?

00:28:41In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Ever Merciful.

00:28:43In reality,

00:28:45what is happening today

00:28:47reminds me of an idiom

00:28:49which is very popular these days.

00:28:51When we caught them stealing,

00:28:53we stopped them from stealing.

00:28:55Now they have come to steal.

00:28:57The Constitution

00:28:59that you are talking about,

00:29:01just think that

00:29:03the Deputy Prime Minister,

00:29:05the Leader of the House of the Senate,

00:29:07said the day before yesterday

00:29:09that he too

00:29:11did not see this Constitution.

00:29:13Deputy Prime Minister means

00:29:15Ishaq Dar Sahib?

00:29:17Yes.

00:29:19Deputy Prime Minister means

00:29:21Ishaq Dar Sahib.

00:29:23Either the government

00:29:25does not trust the Deputy Prime Minister

00:29:27or the Leader of the House of the Senate.

00:29:29They think that

00:29:31he will say something here and there

00:29:33and so on.

00:29:35Secondly,

00:29:37I know that

00:29:39other political parties

00:29:41do not even know about this.

00:29:43They have only been told

00:29:45that they have to say yes

00:29:47to whatever we send.

00:29:49Now they say that they will say yes.

00:29:53Just think for a second.

00:29:55Now,

00:29:57whatever is in it,

00:29:59this Constitution

00:30:01is a formula

00:30:03or a manual

00:30:05to run Pakistan.

00:30:07You are bringing major changes

00:30:09in it.

00:30:11And the troubleshooting

00:30:13which we call courts in other words,

00:30:15they are bringing major changes

00:30:17in that troubleshooting,

00:30:19but they are not telling anyone.

00:30:21In principle,

00:30:23both the Senate

00:30:25and the National Assembly

00:30:27should become a whole committee

00:30:29and all the members

00:30:31should discuss it.

00:30:33Ishaq Dar said the day before yesterday

00:30:35that

00:30:37when we made the Charter of Democracy,

00:30:39there was a four-year hard work

00:30:41where

00:30:43in between your two parties,

00:30:45the Charter of Democracy,

00:30:47which does not have 35 points in total,

00:30:49you spent four years

00:30:51in that.

00:30:53Now you have come here

00:30:55and you want to pass a bill

00:30:57which will run the whole country

00:30:59in 15 minutes.

00:31:01But there is one more thing.

00:31:03The Charter of Democracy

00:31:05was passed a long time ago,

00:31:07in 2007.

00:31:09But before that,

00:31:11there was a lot of deliberation

00:31:13and a very concrete document was made

00:31:15which everyone appreciates.

00:31:17Mr. Abid Zubair,

00:31:19regarding the legal fraternity,

00:31:21we were raising this question yesterday

00:31:23that have they been trusted?

00:31:25And secondly, you are objecting.

00:31:27Like Munir Malik's statement came

00:31:29that on 26th October,

00:31:31we will appoint Justice Mansoor Ali Shah

00:31:33as the Chief Justice of Pakistan

00:31:35and we are ready for the struggle.

00:31:37But have you seen the Constitution

00:31:39and are there any objections

00:31:41that this is going to happen

00:31:43because no one has seen the Constitution

00:31:45or you have seen it?

00:31:47In the name of Allah,

00:31:49we have received it this morning.

00:31:51Someone has sent it from somewhere

00:31:53and it has such a dangerous

00:31:55meaning that you will get scared.

00:31:57Look, the Constitution of Pakistan

00:31:59is a contract between the people

00:32:01and the whole country.

00:32:03It is a social contract.

00:32:05And your objective resolution

00:32:07which was passed in 1949

00:32:09has written that

00:32:11your case will be acquitted.

00:32:13That is now a part of Article 2A.

00:32:15Article 10 says that you will be acquitted.

00:32:17Now what is happening here is

00:32:19Supreme Court.

00:32:21Like Munir Bhai was saying

00:32:23that Justice Mansoor Ali Shah

00:32:25will become the Chief Justice of Pakistan

00:32:27because there will be no powers

00:32:29of the Chief Justice of Pakistan

00:32:31because Supreme Court and High Court

00:32:33have been terminated.

00:32:35Constitutional Court

00:32:37in which the appointment

00:32:39will be made by the President,

00:32:41Prime Minister and Parliament.

00:32:43I will stop you here for a second.

00:32:45Right now, you are the only person

00:32:47who has been able to get this

00:32:49resolution.

00:32:51If you can explain it to us

00:32:53one by one,

00:32:55we will be thankful to you.

00:32:57Look, the biggest thing in it

00:32:59is Article 175.

00:33:01The Judiciary

00:33:03Chapter is Chapter 7.

00:33:05It starts from Article 175.

00:33:07In Article 175A,

00:33:09there was a method

00:33:11on how judges will be made.

00:33:13In Article 176A,

00:33:15there will be a Federal Constitutional Court

00:33:17in which the President, Prime Minister

00:33:19and Parliamentary Committee will be appointed.

00:33:21The judge will be 68 years old.

00:33:23The tenure of the Chief Justice

00:33:25will be 3 years.

00:33:27If he resigns,

00:33:29he will be 65 years old.

00:33:31If he is 65 years old,

00:33:33he will be fired.

00:33:35He will not live for 3 years.

00:33:37This is my reading of it.

00:33:39The issue is that

00:33:41the Constitutional Court

00:33:43in Pakistan

00:33:45and the practice and procedure

00:33:47when the law is appointed,

00:33:49the Parliament has already interfered

00:33:51in the court.

00:33:53Any constitutional issue will be heard

00:33:55by 5 judges.

00:33:57One very important thing

00:33:59is that Article 190

00:34:01states that the orders of the Supreme Court

00:34:03will be binding on everyone.

00:34:05The word Supreme Court has been removed.

00:34:07There will be a Federal Constitutional Court.

00:34:09This is the status of the Supreme Court.

00:34:11The Supreme Court will be

00:34:13a civil court.

00:34:15The Chief Justice of Pakistan

00:34:17will be the Chief Justice

00:34:19of the Civil Court of Pakistan.

00:34:21There is one more thing.

00:34:23Any amendment

00:34:25should not be person-specific.

00:34:27Is it possible

00:34:29that if a 65-year-old

00:34:31retires from here,

00:34:33he will be accommodated there?

00:34:35He will be appointed there.

00:34:37The President and the Prime Minister

00:34:39will appoint the judges first.

00:34:41Among the three judges,

00:34:43the President will decide

00:34:45and he will be the Chief Justice

00:34:47of the Federal Constitutional Court.

00:34:49Sir, any amendment

00:34:51which is a basic feature

00:34:53or a salient feature

00:34:55can never harm

00:34:57the fundamental rights of the people.

00:34:59They do not have any power.

00:35:01But we do not have

00:35:03the power of the Haredi book.

00:35:05We have the power of the gun.

00:35:07This is our real power.

00:35:09Sir, how many amendments are there?

00:35:11I have seen

00:35:13that there are a lot of articles.

00:35:15There are a lot of them.

00:35:17I do not have the entire draft

00:35:19because the Judiciary has sent it.

00:35:21I received a copy from there.

00:35:23There are a lot of groups.

00:35:25There is wrong speculation

00:35:27in the media.

00:35:29Do you think that the graves

00:35:31that were coming from Zarae are okay?

00:35:33I have a draft.

00:35:35Mr. Zubairi?

00:35:37Yes.

00:35:39The amendment.

00:35:41If all the powers

00:35:43go to the Supreme Court,

00:35:45then what cases will be brought

00:35:47to the Supreme Court?

00:35:49The fundamental purpose

00:35:51of the amendment

00:35:53was to reduce the burden.

00:35:55Is the burden being reduced?

00:35:57Yes.

00:35:59The Supreme Court

00:36:01will only deal with

00:36:03criminal cases.

00:36:05Article 199 gives power

00:36:07to the High Court.

00:36:09There is a new clause

00:36:11that even the national security

00:36:13issue cannot be exercised

00:36:15by the High Court.

00:36:17Who will decide the national

00:36:19security issue?

00:36:21Mr. Zubairi,

00:36:23we were assuming

00:36:25that it will be a parallel court.

00:36:27If it is a parallel court,

00:36:29who will have the power

00:36:31to go to the Supreme Court?

00:36:33No.

00:36:35Who will head the Supreme Judicial

00:36:37Council?

00:36:39Who will be the boss

00:36:41of the Judiciary?

00:36:43The federal court

00:36:45will decide.

00:36:47There is an amendment in it.

00:36:49Mr. Zubairi and Mr. Humayun,

00:36:51please stay with us.

00:36:53We will share some updates.

00:36:55The news is that the PTI

00:36:57has filed a lawsuit

00:36:59against MNS

00:37:01in Tanah Sanjani.

00:37:03The court has approved

00:37:05the PTI MNS lawsuit

00:37:07after the arrest.

00:37:09Jahangir Aslam will tell us more.

00:37:11Yes,

00:37:13the PTI MNS

00:37:15has filed a lawsuit

00:37:17against MNS

00:37:19in Tanah Sanjani.

00:37:21The court has approved

00:37:23the PTI MNS lawsuit

00:37:25after the arrest.

00:37:27The court has approved

00:37:29the lawsuit

00:37:31in exchange for

00:37:33Rs. 30,000.

00:37:35The court has also issued

00:37:37an order to release

00:37:39MNS immediately.

00:37:41The court has also issued

00:37:43an order to release

00:37:45MNS immediately.

00:37:47The court has issued

00:37:49an order to release

00:37:51MNS immediately.

00:37:53The court has issued

00:37:55an order to release

00:37:57MNS immediately.

00:37:59The court has issued

00:38:01an order to release

00:38:03MNS immediately.

00:38:05The court has issued

00:38:07an order to release

00:38:09MNS immediately.

00:38:11The court has also issued

00:38:13an order to release

00:38:15MNS immediately.

00:38:17The court has issued

00:38:19an order to release

00:38:21MNS immediately.

00:38:25Back to our discussion

00:38:27Mr. Humayun

00:38:29Mr. Humayun

00:38:31Mr. Humayun

00:38:33Mr. Humayun

00:38:35Mr. Humayun

00:38:37Mr. Humayun

00:38:39So, what is the most striking thing for you at this time?

00:38:44Look, there are two things in this.

00:38:47I mean, all of them are wrong.

00:38:49But let me tell you in a simple way.

00:38:51Basically, what they are doing is,

00:38:53they are ending the independence of the Supreme Court.

00:38:57And they are giving control to the establishment indirectly

00:39:02or they are giving it to the political party, the government.

00:39:06So, executive.

00:39:07So, remember the segregation of powers, the trichotomy of powers

00:39:11in which legislators, executive and judiciary

00:39:17their powers were separated.

00:39:19They are bringing the judiciary under the executive.

00:39:23The way to do that is, as they said,

00:39:25now the judges, the names of five judges will come.

00:39:28In that, the worst judge will be called executive.

00:39:32That we will keep you, you have to do our work.

00:39:34In other words, now this will come under the law

00:39:38that you make a judge for yourself.

00:39:40So, when you make a judge of the Supreme Court.

00:39:42This is a little unfair.

00:39:43Obviously, if someone spends so much time in this field

00:39:46and reaches here, then he cannot be called an idiot.

00:39:48But obviously, there can be a choice.

00:39:50Pick and choose, you can say.

00:39:51Look, it happens like this.

00:39:52Look, let me tell you one thing.

00:39:54Idiot is a relative term.

00:39:56Okay.

00:39:57Idiot means that at this time, Mr. Zubairi will correct me.

00:40:02A senator from PMLN told me that

00:40:06at this time, Justice Mansoor Ali Shah is the only jurist of Pakistan

00:40:12who is international or of his level.

00:40:16Who knows everything outside.

00:40:19I don't know, but he said this.

00:40:21Anyway, beside the point.

00:40:23I will correct a little in that regard.

00:40:25The one who will be best at merit,

00:40:28you will bring the person whose tenure is ending

00:40:33or whom you can favor and take your decisions.

00:40:37Okay.

00:40:38Do that thing.

00:40:39Number two.

00:40:40One thing is done, number two.

00:40:42On the other hand, the teeth of these people

00:40:45because of which they could implement on people.

00:40:49As Mr. Zubairi said, you are killing them.

00:40:52When you are killing them,

00:40:54so basically you are further spoiling the justice system

00:40:58on which everything runs, the whole world runs.

00:41:01True.

00:41:02You are spoiling it further.

00:41:04So in this regard, if you look at it,

00:41:07I don't know how people will react.

00:41:10I don't know how our law people,

00:41:15like lawyers or party leaders, how will they react.

00:41:19Mr. Zubairi, tell me that

00:41:21these bars, associations,

00:41:23according to you, the conversations you have had with us

00:41:27regarding the draft, will it be acceptable for them?

00:41:31Not at all.

00:41:32See, what I am talking to you about,

00:41:34these are very dangerous things.

00:41:36Mr. Momin is sitting here,

00:41:37he may be related to PTI.

00:41:39An amendment has been made in Article 17

00:41:41that if any party is banned,

00:41:43Article 17.3 says that

00:41:45the order will not be implemented until

00:41:48the Supreme Court approves it.

00:41:52Now that matter has also come out.

00:41:54That has also been removed from the Supreme Court

00:41:56and given to the Federal Constitutional Court.

00:41:58Then Article 63,

00:41:59only one amendment is being made

00:42:00in which a person will be able to vote

00:42:04against his party,

00:42:06on a constitutional amendment or on anyone.

00:42:09And after that,

00:42:10there will be a disqualification procedure

00:42:12and the judgments of the High Court, Supreme Court,

00:42:14have been rejected by everyone.

00:42:15There are amendments to Article 48

00:42:17and there are amendments to Article 49.

00:42:19There is also a big amendment in the High Court

00:42:21that the Judicial Commission,

00:42:23now who will the Judicial Commission comprise of?

00:42:26It is written above that

00:42:28the Supreme Chief Justice of Pakistan

00:42:30is coming down everywhere.

00:42:31Now they have also written in it

00:42:33that the commission will be of the Constitutional Court,

00:42:41the Chief Justice and the judges.

00:42:43Mr. Zabari, this is an interesting thing.

00:42:45One more thing,

00:42:46the commission will evaluate the judge of the High Court every year.

00:42:51Is the judge doing the right thing or not?

00:42:53Mr. Zabari, one more thing,

00:42:55as far as I know,

00:42:57the real thing is that

00:42:58the Constitutional Court is being made

00:43:00and you are concerned about its transparency.

00:43:03Who will have the right to choose?

00:43:05If that right is transparent,

00:43:07then you will not have any objection.

00:43:08But that right is compromised.

00:43:09No, we have an objection

00:43:10that the Constitutional Court will not be made.

00:43:12The Supreme Court of Pakistan

00:43:13cannot be subservient

00:43:14to the Federal Constitutional Court.

00:43:16They are doing the Federal Constitutional Court.

00:43:18We are saying that

00:43:19you cannot finish the power of the Supreme Court.

00:43:21You cannot do the powers of the High Court.

00:43:23You have made the people of the Parliament

00:43:25sit in the Judges' Appointment Commission.

00:43:28That is, they will also choose the judges of the High Court.

00:43:31It was a good system

00:43:32that the Parliamentary Committee would go from there

00:43:33and they would give access.

00:43:34It was a very good system.

00:43:35We have to take a break.

00:43:37Thank you so much, Mr. Zabari.

00:43:38Mr. Mohamad, thank you for joining us.

00:43:40Let's take a break here

00:43:41and come back after the break.

00:43:43Thank you so much.

00:44:14In this, we will talk about the journey of the ARY network.

00:44:20It is the 24th anniversary.

00:44:23In fact, it has been completed for 24 years.

00:44:25And you think it is a long journey.

00:44:28It is a long journey

00:44:29and the way it started

00:44:31and where we have reached,

00:44:32if we look back at it,

00:44:34the words will be less for us.

00:44:36Because every day we learned

00:44:39and there were improvements.

00:44:41We saw that we entertained people a lot

00:44:43and at every opportunity,

00:44:45we kept people informed.

00:44:47So, how long have you been a part of this network?

00:44:50I have been part of ARY news since 2008.

00:44:53Wow!

00:44:54It's been a long journey.

00:44:56It's been a long journey.

00:44:57And I am quite proud of it.

00:44:58In the beginning, I used to think

00:45:00that news anchors are just 5 years.

00:45:03But no,

00:45:04after coming with ARY,

00:45:05I have a completely different experience.

00:45:07I got a lot of opportunities,

00:45:08I got a lot of platforms

00:45:09from where I got a chance to perform in different ways.

00:45:12And in the middle,

00:45:13you went here and there

00:45:14but you came back eventually.

00:45:15It was just for one year.

00:45:16One year.

00:45:17Yes.

00:45:18But my journey too,

00:45:19Mashallah,

00:45:20it's been like since 2017.

00:45:21Yes.

00:45:22So, now it's 2024,

00:45:23so 7 years.

00:45:25So, it's been a good journey.

00:45:26Mashallah.

00:45:27And all the people who are connected to ARY,

00:45:28many people have been with ARY from the beginning.

00:45:30Yes.

00:45:31And in very few channels,

00:45:32you get to see that

00:45:33people have been with you for a long time.

00:45:34If you have been with ARY for 24 years,

00:45:36then they have been connected to you for 24 years.

00:45:38So, hats off to them

00:45:39and hats off to the management

00:45:40who kept them connected.

00:45:43Absolutely.

00:45:44So, today,

00:45:45since it's the anniversary of ARY,

00:45:46it's been 24 years,

00:45:47there is a lot to share with you.

00:45:50But there are some updates

00:45:51that we will share with you.

00:45:53Please tell me.

00:45:54Okay, today is an important day.

00:45:56In light of what happened yesterday in the National Assembly,

00:45:59the National Assembly will be held at 12.30 pm.

00:46:02And a three-point agenda has been issued.

00:46:05The Minister of Internal Affairs, Mohsin Naqvi,

00:46:07will present a bill to amend the Taish-e-Shahriyat Act 1926.

00:46:13Senator Azam Nazeet Arar

00:46:15will express his gratitude

00:46:17to the two members of the President's Parliament.

00:46:20For the meeting,

00:46:21there are very strict security arrangements in the Parliament House.

00:46:25And due to security reasons,

00:46:27guests are not allowed in the meeting.

00:46:31Deputy Director General of Media,

00:46:32Respected Member of the National Assembly,

00:46:35has been requested not to bring guests in the National Assembly meeting.

00:46:43Okay.

00:46:44Now, let me tell you that

00:46:46Noor League's President Nawaz Sharif

00:46:47is present at his residence in Jati Umrah.

00:46:49And so far,

00:46:50there has been no schedule for the departure of Islamabad.

00:46:52This is a source of information.

00:46:54So, Ulfat Mughal will give more details.

00:46:56Please tell us.

00:46:58Absolutely.

00:46:59The President of Pakistan Muslim League,

00:47:01Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif,

00:47:02went to Lahore from Islamabad at night.

00:47:04And so far,

00:47:05he is present at his residence in Jati Umrah.

00:47:08I would like to say to the personal staff of Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif

00:47:12that so far,

00:47:13they have not received any schedule

00:47:15for the departure of Islamabad or any other place.

00:47:17Usually,

00:47:18whenever Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif travels somewhere,

00:47:20we are informed one night in advance

00:47:21or a few hours in advance.

00:47:23But so far,

00:47:24we have not received any kind of travel instructions.

00:47:28He came late at night.

00:47:29And so far,

00:47:30the staff is resting.

00:47:31And so far,

00:47:32there is no confirmation

00:47:33that Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif

00:47:34will go to Islamabad for the National Assembly.

00:47:38So far,

00:47:39Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif is present in Lahore.

00:47:41Okay.

00:47:42Thank you very much, Ulfat.

00:47:44Okay.

00:47:45So, let's talk about the AY network again.

00:47:48It has been 24 years.

00:47:49MashaAllah.

00:47:50Alhamdulillah.

00:47:51And

00:47:52from London,

00:47:53a channel has started.

00:47:57And at that time,

00:47:58it used to be a kind of hybrid channel.

00:48:00News,

00:48:01entertainment,

00:48:02and

00:48:03the foundation of a channel was laid here.

00:48:05And after that,

00:48:06we see that

00:48:07today,

00:48:08the AY network has become so big.

00:48:10So, this 24-year journey,

00:48:11if we say,

00:48:12how far we have come,

00:48:14if we look at it,

00:48:15there are many journeys,

00:48:17in which,

00:48:18especially,

00:48:19if we talk about journalism and news,

00:48:21we have seen many ups and downs.

00:48:23We have seen many difficulties.

00:48:25We have had to face many obstacles.

00:48:27But,

00:48:28Alhamdulillah,

00:48:29the AY network has kept moving forward.

00:48:31So, a report has been compiled on this.

00:48:33Please have a look.

00:48:35The journey of progress will continue.

00:48:37And why not?

00:48:38And now,

00:48:39we would like to know,

00:48:40especially,

00:48:41from those personalities,

00:48:42who,

00:48:43you can say,

00:48:44have worked from their platform.

00:48:47And, obviously,

00:48:48that fraternity,

00:48:49which has been associated,

00:48:50they say,

00:48:51drama,

00:48:52showbiz,

00:48:53their name is bigger than this.

00:48:54So, Mr. Javed Sheikh,

00:48:55is not dependent on any introduction.

00:48:57He is a great actor.

00:48:58He is a legendary figure.

00:48:59We will talk to him.

00:49:00Thank you so much,

00:49:01Mr. Javed Sheikh,

00:49:02for joining us.

00:49:03And,

00:49:04thank you very much.

00:49:05Today,

00:49:06you took out time for us,

00:49:07when we are celebrating

00:49:08the 24th anniversary of AY.

00:49:09You have also worked a lot with AY.

00:49:11And,

00:49:12we will be very thankful.

00:49:13Whenever,

00:49:14we contact you,

00:49:15you give us this honor,

00:49:17that you become a part of our show,

00:49:19or any part of our channel.

00:49:22So,

00:49:23what is your experience with AY?

00:49:25And,

00:49:26what would you like to say

00:49:27about AY today?

00:49:30In the name of Allah,

00:49:31the Most Gracious,

00:49:32the Most Merciful.

00:49:33First of all,

00:49:34I would like to congratulate

00:49:35the entire team of AY,

00:49:39and all the people

00:49:40associated with AY.

00:49:42I would like to congratulate all of them,

00:49:44because,

00:49:45with all their hard work,

00:49:48AY has spread all over the world today.

00:49:53I have been with AY

00:49:54since the beginning of its journey.

00:50:00As you said,

00:50:0124 years.

00:50:02So,

00:50:03I have been with AY

00:50:04since 24 years.

00:50:06How?

00:50:07When AY started,

00:50:10in England,

00:50:11in London,

00:50:12it had an office.

00:50:14And,

00:50:15I used to come and go there,

00:50:17with Salman.

00:50:19I used to get up and sit.

00:50:22And,

00:50:23at that time,

00:50:24I had planned a film,

00:50:2524 years ago,

00:50:26whose name was,

00:50:28Yeh Dil Aapka Hua.

00:50:29It was a beautiful film.

00:50:31I started that film in 2000,

00:50:34when this channel started.

00:50:36And,

00:50:37after that,

00:50:38on 19th July,

00:50:402002,

00:50:41that film

00:50:42spread all over Pakistan.

00:50:43And,

00:50:44after that,

00:50:45through AY,

00:50:49I did that film,

00:50:51in England.

00:50:54I did its premiere show.

00:50:56And,

00:50:57we did that film all over England.

00:50:59And,

00:51:00that's why,

00:51:01with AY,

00:51:02I have a very good experience.

00:51:05I have worked a lot.

00:51:07I have worked in many different places.

00:51:09As I told you,

00:51:1024 years ago,

00:51:12when I planned this film,

00:51:14Yeh Dil Aapka Hua,

00:51:15since then,

00:51:16we have been together.

00:51:18And,

00:51:19in spite of that,

00:51:20I have contributed a lot.

00:51:24For their sports channel,

00:51:26for their team,

00:51:27for their every work,

00:51:29we,

00:51:30always,

00:51:32I have been with them.

00:51:34And,

00:51:35it is Allah's grace,

00:51:37that AY is spread all over the world.

00:51:40Really,

00:51:41this is true.

00:51:42The plant,

00:51:43which was planted 24 years ago,

00:51:45today,

00:51:47has become a strong tree.

00:51:49And,

00:51:50it is a strong tree.

00:51:51And,

00:51:52in its shade,

00:51:53many people,

00:51:54are earning their livelihood.

00:51:56And,

00:51:57AY channel,

00:51:58is entertaining people.

00:52:00Mr. Sheikh,

00:52:01there is another factor in this.

00:52:03The movie you mentioned,

00:52:04without a doubt,

00:52:05that movie,

00:52:06was so great,

00:52:07that we still remember its songs.

00:52:09Normally,

00:52:10it is very difficult to remember,

00:52:12the voice,

00:52:13the voice of Kumar Sanu,

00:52:15the way you gave your input.

00:52:17Nowadays,

00:52:18it is the era of social media,

00:52:19the era of digital media.

00:52:20In that too,

00:52:21AY network,

00:52:22has maintained its individuality.

00:52:24And,

00:52:25has established itself,

00:52:26as a strong network.

00:52:27Although,

00:52:28it was not an easy task,

00:52:29without a doubt.

00:52:30What would you like to comment on this?

00:52:32No, no,

00:52:33I am saying that,

00:52:34any,

00:52:35social media,

00:52:36in social media,

00:52:38and,

00:52:39every,

00:52:40every,

00:52:41every media,

00:52:42AY has,

00:52:44crossed it,

00:52:45from other channels.

00:52:47And,

00:52:48at this time,

00:52:49I think that,

00:52:51AY entertainment,

00:52:53AY news,

00:52:54and,

00:52:55sports,

00:52:56and,

00:52:57music,

00:52:58all other,

00:52:59channels in Pakistan,

00:53:01are far ahead of them.

00:53:03Okay.

00:53:04So,

00:53:06Thank you so much.

00:53:07Thank you so much,

00:53:08Mr. Sheikh,

00:53:09for being with us.

00:53:10And,

00:53:11Thank you so much,

00:53:12for being with us.

00:53:1324 years,

00:53:14have been completed,

00:53:15of the AY network.

00:53:16And,

00:53:17obviously,

00:53:18it was not an easy journey.

00:53:19But,

00:53:20despite that,

00:53:21the AY network,

00:53:22despite all the difficulties,

00:53:23despite all the difficulties,

00:53:24remained at its feet.

00:53:25And,

00:53:26today,

00:53:2724 years,

00:53:28have been completed.

00:53:29Your thoughts on it,

00:53:30sir?

00:53:31In the name of Allah,

00:53:32the most gracious,

00:53:33the most merciful.

00:53:34First of all,

00:53:35I would like to thank,

00:53:36Mr. Iqbal,

00:53:37for being with us,

00:53:38and,

00:53:39and,

00:53:40I would like to congratulate,

00:53:41Mr. Iqbal,

00:53:42Salman Iqbal,

00:53:43and,

00:53:44the entire team's management,

00:53:45and,

00:53:46all your journalists,

00:53:47and,

00:53:48all your anchors,

00:53:49and,

00:53:50the entire team of AY,

00:53:51and,

00:53:52the entire Pakistan,

00:53:53on the first channel of Pakistan,

00:53:54on the first channel of Pakistan,

00:53:55AY News,

00:53:56AY News,

00:53:57which,

00:53:58which,

00:53:59during that time,

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Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar | 16th SEP 2024

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