Tomislav Mix
Tomislav Mix
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00:00:00Forty feet, going down at three.
00:00:03Standby.
00:00:06Twenty-five.
00:00:30One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen.
00:00:51From an unknown girl from Brčko, Fahreta Jahić, later known as Lepa Brenna,
00:00:56she became a big star in Yugoslavia at the beginning of the 1980s.
00:01:01Making fun of Brenna's song Čačak,
00:01:04which she released in her show, then popular leader Minimax,
00:01:07she made a big step in Brenna's promotion.
00:01:10After that, nothing could stop her.
00:01:13Čačak, Mile Voli Disko and Jugoslavenka were just some of her hits,
00:01:17not only in the former state, but also in Romania and Bulgaria.
00:01:27Since then, Brenna's long-time friend, SaÅ”a Popović,
00:01:30who played in Slatko Greho,
00:01:32and today the first name of a popular TV show in Serbia, Zvijezde GranŔoa.
00:01:35I met her in Brčko in 1979.
00:01:39In 1980 she came to the Slatko Greho ensemble.
00:01:45And in a year, a year and a half, she progressed so much
00:01:50from an amateur singer to a great professional,
00:01:53that it is the fastest transformation I have ever seen in my life.
00:02:00Brenna's obsession led to the fact
00:02:02that the concerts were sold out in just a few hours.
00:02:05Albums were sold in millions of copies.
00:02:08Many people listened to her songs
00:02:10rather than the stabilization programs of the then authorities.
00:02:13Brenna is a phenomenon, as I said at the beginning of the 20th century,
00:02:16for the simple reason that she is the only one in the former Yugoslavia
00:02:20who held more than 2,500 concerts in front of 5,000 people and more.
00:02:25Brenna set standards in the 1980s.
00:02:30In a way, she was a Balkan star.
00:02:33She was an absolute Balkan star.
00:02:36Those who did not listen to her at home
00:02:41went to see what Brenna had done.
00:02:44The newly composed folk music was not enough for her.
00:02:47Her star status was confirmed by her appearance in several commercial films.
00:02:53Mitrovic, Mitrovic, right now!
00:02:58Come here, Brenna.
00:03:00Schultz is looking for Milla Volidis.
00:03:03She already sang that last night.
00:03:05So what?
00:03:06She won't sing one song twice a night.
00:03:10I have business partners.
00:03:12I want to put fans in their coffers.
00:03:14What fans?
00:03:16Just go and say,
00:03:18Schultz is looking for Milla Volidis.
00:03:20And bring the bill.
00:03:21And who will pay for all that?
00:03:24The company.
00:03:26I don't listen to it for myself, I listen to it for the company.
00:03:29How can I write music?
00:03:32Write under Ordevor.
00:03:34Pretty Brenna for 4.8.
00:03:36Critic Petar Janjatovic, author of Ex You, Rock Encyclopedia,
00:03:39thinks that the career of Pretty Brenna should be viewed from several angles.
00:03:44She was among the first to recognize what serious work is
00:03:48from the so-called newly composed folk music.
00:03:52In the 80s, she started using everything that is rock'n'roll production.
00:03:57Rock'n'roll guitars,
00:03:59music videos,
00:04:01movies,
00:04:03she did the best that rock'n'roll business offered
00:04:07to present her music,
00:04:09which today, when we look at those hits,
00:04:11they are kitsch, there is no dilemma.
00:04:13However, they were obviously very seductive,
00:04:16and it is no wonder that she made such a kind of name
00:04:19and popularity during all these years.
00:04:22At the same time, today, when we look at what Bjelo Dugme did,
00:04:26as a rock'n'roll band,
00:04:28coquettish with folk elements,
00:04:30in one part of that palette was Pretty Brenna
00:04:35with her seductive, sweet, sugary songs
00:04:40from newly composed folk music.
00:04:43On the other hand, Goran Bregovic and Bjelo Dugme.
00:04:46Today, Bregovic plays folk music,
00:04:49and Brenna is much more pop than ever.
00:05:01Brenna is at the top of Slava Uda's list
00:05:03for the tennis player Slobodan Živojinović.
00:05:05He was the first, in the true sense of the word,
00:05:07showbiz star in the country at the time.
00:05:09With the bloody fall of the country,
00:05:11Brenna lost her stage presence.
00:05:13In wartime, there are many strong stories
00:05:15that she repeatedly demonstrated.
00:05:17One of those stories that filled the newspapers
00:05:19is that she sang during the war in Brčko for the Serbian army.
00:05:22When the war started,
00:05:24I was in Brčko,
00:05:27and the first ones to fall apart
00:05:29were Pretty Brenna and Sweet Sins.
00:05:31We were an orchestra,
00:05:33and she was a singer
00:05:35that both Serbs and Croats,
00:05:37Slovenes, Macedonians, Montenegrins, etc.
00:05:40loved.
00:05:42She had one of the hardest times on her back,
00:05:45and that was...
00:05:47She was a Bosnian, a Muslim,
00:05:49married to a Serb,
00:05:51she stayed in Belgrade, in Novi Prostor,
00:05:54and she constructed her own story.
00:05:56In Bosnia, she constructed a story
00:05:58that suited them,
00:06:00in Serbia, she constructed a story
00:06:02that suited the Serbs, etc.
00:06:04All of that led to a great confusion,
00:06:06however,
00:06:08Brenna stood up for it,
00:06:10and I have to give her a lot of credit,
00:06:13that she didn't succumb
00:06:15to those calls,
00:06:17those insinuations,
00:06:19those...
00:06:21those big attacks.
00:06:23She remained dignified
00:06:25in all of those moments.
00:06:27Of course, there's nothing to it,
00:06:29Brenna simply didn't stand
00:06:31on any side.
00:06:33For years, apart from music,
00:06:35Brenna has shown that she can
00:06:37successfully swim in business waters.
00:06:39The publishing house, TV production,
00:06:41were part of her success.
00:06:43But not everything was easy.
00:06:45Almost ten years ago,
00:06:47her son Stefan was a father.
00:06:50With the normalization of relations
00:06:52between the former republics,
00:06:54Brenna again has ambitious plans.
00:06:56The plans include a spectacular tour,
00:06:58not only in the former Yugoslavia,
00:07:00but also in Bulgaria, Romania, etc.
00:07:02One concert is especially important to her.
00:07:06Look, Zagreb is literally
00:07:08one of the two or three
00:07:10most important concerts
00:07:12that can happen in the Balkans.
00:07:14So anyone who starts,
00:07:16for example,
00:07:19with the idea of having a concert
00:07:21in Zagreb,
00:07:23has to put in a lot of work,
00:07:25a lot of taste,
00:07:27a lot of people,
00:07:29and I'm doing it right now.
00:07:31So, a concert is being made
00:07:33that will simply be
00:07:35like a musical holiday.
00:07:37From Brenna's team, they say
00:07:39that they think there won't be
00:07:41any resistance for the concert
00:07:43in Croatia, because they claim
00:07:45there's no reason for it.
00:07:48As far as I know, she sang well,
00:07:50she looked good,
00:07:52and she was the most popular
00:07:54in the former Yugoslavia.
00:07:56Well, I don't think
00:07:58she's the best yet.
00:08:00It's not time yet
00:08:02for her to get her way.
00:08:04It was a hard time,
00:08:06and it hurts.
00:08:08It would be better
00:08:10a little later.
00:08:12I would go to her concerts
00:08:14when she was there.
00:08:17Colleagues from Estrada,
00:08:19like rocker Goran Bara
00:08:21and Alka Vujica,
00:08:23welcomed her.
00:08:25People love to listen to her.
00:08:27She's one of the most
00:08:29respected singers
00:08:31in this area.
00:08:33People who have never
00:08:35listened to Narodnjaka
00:08:37listen to her.
00:08:39I know that for a fact.
00:08:41She's a great singer.
00:08:43She's a great singer.
00:08:45I know that for a fact.
00:08:47Today, I have friends
00:08:49who are totally different.
00:08:51Have you heard her new album?
00:08:53Whether she liked it or not,
00:08:55she made a career
00:08:57that the next generation
00:08:59will only dream of.
00:09:01The good thing is
00:09:03that she's a very
00:09:05hard-working woman
00:09:07and very open to influence.
00:09:09In the end, she made
00:09:11the entire empire
00:09:13of music production.
00:09:15The bad thing is
00:09:17that a solid number
00:09:19of her hits are completely
00:09:21irrelevant and almost
00:09:23a parody of
00:09:25pop folk music.
00:09:36Good day, dear viewers.
00:09:38Of course, you know
00:09:40that the guest of today's show
00:09:42is Fakrita Živojinović,
00:09:44beautiful Brenna.
00:09:46Good day, welcome.
00:09:48Good day.
00:09:50People have often asked me
00:09:52whether she will come
00:09:54to the show,
00:09:56whether it will be
00:09:58live.
00:10:00Seriously.
00:10:02She will come to Zagreb,
00:10:04so she will come.
00:10:06How do you feel in Zagreb?
00:10:08I always feel phenomenal in Zagreb
00:10:10because we come to Zagreb
00:10:12very often.
00:10:14We travel through Croatia
00:10:16and we have a lot of friends there.
00:10:18I even have a family here in Zagreb,
00:10:20so we are often guests.
00:10:22You didn't invite us to the show,
00:10:24otherwise they would have seen us.
00:10:26What memories do you have of Croatia?
00:10:28I really have wonderful memories
00:10:30of Croatia.
00:10:32First of all, my beautiful concerts
00:10:34that I had all over Croatia
00:10:36and the entire Croatian suburb.
00:10:38I always have fantastic memories
00:10:40of all that time
00:10:42and all that period
00:10:44where we knew, for example,
00:10:46some summer time, we start slowly
00:10:48from the Montenegrin coast,
00:10:50then we do the whole Croatian coast
00:10:52and in the end we do, for example,
00:10:54a concert in Zagreb,
00:10:56that was our finale.
00:10:58And what I liked the most
00:11:00was to go to Splanada
00:11:02and eat strukle there
00:11:04and then go home nicely,
00:11:06and then,
00:11:08when I started dating Bob,
00:11:10we often knew
00:11:12to go to Cavtat
00:11:14and spend there
00:11:16some free time
00:11:18that we had,
00:11:20where Bob had his favorite cook,
00:11:22so we crossed the Croatian coast
00:11:24and that's where my
00:11:26most beautiful
00:11:28friendship with Bob began,
00:11:30in fact, on the Croatian coast.
00:11:32When you mention those gastro specialties,
00:11:34he is more of an amateur
00:11:36than I've heard,
00:11:38or has that changed?
00:11:40Well, Bob is a great hedonist
00:11:42and I have to admit
00:11:44that I didn't know
00:11:46so much about life
00:11:48until I met him.
00:11:50However, when I met him,
00:11:52I said to myself,
00:11:54now I'm going to try everything,
00:11:56finally, because I didn't have
00:11:58so much free time
00:12:00to learn all that,
00:12:02I'm going to devote myself
00:12:04a lot of attention,
00:12:06because I started,
00:12:08I'm actually directly from
00:12:10high school,
00:12:12I finished high school,
00:12:14high school,
00:12:16classical in Brčko,
00:12:18then I enrolled in
00:12:20Tourism at the Faculty of Natural and Mathematics,
00:12:22and because of my financial situation,
00:12:24where we simply didn't have,
00:12:26my family didn't have
00:12:28anything to live on,
00:12:30I started to work,
00:12:32which was really
00:12:34catastrophic for my parents,
00:12:36because they were afraid
00:12:38that I wouldn't finish college,
00:12:40and that's how I started to sing.
00:12:42We'll talk about your biography,
00:12:44but let's talk about
00:12:46your concert in Zagreb.
00:12:48Last year you released an album,
00:12:50you announced the concert in Pula,
00:12:52and now it's being announced in Zagreb.
00:12:54How is it?
00:12:56In which phase is it?
00:12:58In terms of final agreements,
00:13:00regarding the concert in Zagreb,
00:13:02I don't know about the other concerts,
00:13:04I don't have any information,
00:13:06and I wouldn't like
00:13:08this to be this public
00:13:10and official,
00:13:12and in a very short period
00:13:14we'll have information
00:13:16and we'll announce to all the media
00:13:18in Croatia that the concert is definitely
00:13:20in Zagreb.
00:13:22It should be somewhere in May,
00:13:24at the end of May,
00:13:26but I'll come to Zagreb
00:13:28and officially announce
00:13:30the exact date and time.
00:13:32Do you think you can gather
00:13:3415-20 thousand people
00:13:36if it's in the game arena?
00:13:38I think so.
00:13:40You're optimistic about that.
00:13:42I'm very optimistic.
00:13:44Is there any discomfort
00:13:46before the concert in Zagreb?
00:13:48Why am I asking this?
00:13:50Are you afraid of the reception
00:13:52in Zagreb?
00:13:54I've met some people
00:13:56who say,
00:13:58yes, yes, we remember
00:14:00what she said about Croatia.
00:14:02One of the things
00:14:04that for some people
00:14:06in Croatia,
00:14:08I repeat, some people in Croatia
00:14:10think that you did something
00:14:12impolite, and that 93rd
00:14:14is actually controversial.
00:14:16When you were photographed
00:14:18in Brčko,
00:14:20it's mentioned that you were singing
00:14:22in front of the Serbian army.
00:14:24Why were you there?
00:14:26You've said that several times,
00:14:28but the audience in Croatia
00:14:30doesn't know that.
00:14:32I think the point of this story
00:14:34is that people believe
00:14:36what is easiest for them to believe.
00:14:38They believe their beliefs,
00:14:40but the truth is
00:14:42that I went to Brčko
00:14:44for my father.
00:14:46You were born in Brčko.
00:14:48I was born in Tuzlanka,
00:14:50I lived in Brčko
00:14:52until I was 19,
00:14:54and then I started this job.
00:14:56That year,
00:14:58I went to Brčko
00:15:00for my father,
00:15:02who couldn't leave,
00:15:04because my sister
00:15:06was in shock.
00:15:08No one could believe what was happening.
00:15:10My sister and I went to Brčko
00:15:12to take him.
00:15:14After that, my whole family
00:15:16went to their side.
00:15:18The stories are really strange
00:15:20and fascinating.
00:15:22It's incredible how...
00:15:24No, they got overrated.
00:15:26You later
00:15:28sang some stories about Arkan.
00:15:30I mean, there were
00:15:32all kinds of stories.
00:15:34I mean, it's not true
00:15:36that people really
00:15:38like to invent
00:15:40and make scripts for films
00:15:42that simply don't exist.
00:15:44Where did that mask uniform come from?
00:15:46There was a photo of it.
00:15:48It's a uniform
00:15:50from the movie
00:15:52Let's love each other from Kenya.
00:15:54When I was shooting the movie,
00:15:56it was that uniform.
00:15:58You couldn't wear something
00:16:00that was simple.
00:16:02You couldn't even
00:16:04wear a miniskirt.
00:16:06You couldn't even dress
00:16:08like a normal person.
00:16:10We had to go through
00:16:12what we had to go through.
00:16:14We barely found my father.
00:16:16I had to go
00:16:18after my father.
00:16:20I think he would do anything
00:16:22to save his family.
00:16:24And that was it.
00:16:26We went to Brčko,
00:16:28found him, took him
00:16:30and came back.
00:16:32Some houses were also
00:16:34demolished, if I'm not mistaken.
00:16:36Yes, it wasn't a demolished house.
00:16:38But you know,
00:16:40all the houses were...
00:16:42My sister had a breakdown.
00:16:44I was also desperate
00:16:46because it all happened
00:16:48and I had to go
00:16:50to save my father.
00:16:52Everything that existed
00:16:54was destroyed.
00:16:56It didn't matter if it was
00:16:58on this side or that side.
00:17:00And I was sorry
00:17:02because I got some signals
00:17:04that I shouldn't come to Brčko.
00:17:06It was my protest,
00:17:08and I went
00:17:10and took my father
00:17:12and went to the city center
00:17:14and said hello to everyone
00:17:16who was there.
00:17:18Did your father come back to Brčko?
00:17:20Yes, my parents still live there.
00:17:22After that, they came back.
00:17:24They didn't want to go
00:17:26to a new house
00:17:28or anything else.
00:17:30They were afraid it would be someone else's.
00:17:32They didn't want to go back
00:17:34to the apartment where I spent
00:17:36all my childhood
00:17:38and where I still live today.
00:17:40Did you try to explain
00:17:42why you were trying to go to war?
00:17:44In that way.
00:17:46I think that...
00:17:48Yes, yes.
00:17:50I think that there is no man,
00:17:52regardless of his profession,
00:17:56where people didn't try
00:17:58to expose him.
00:18:00Do you think he is a public figure?
00:18:02I don't think he is a public figure.
00:18:04It doesn't matter if he is a teacher,
00:18:06a public figure or a politician.
00:18:08It was very important
00:18:10to add those
00:18:12fabricated stories
00:18:14that will be ugly,
00:18:16that will simply
00:18:18haunt people.
00:18:20Some stories were ugly.
00:18:22Some stories were,
00:18:24but I don't think there is a man
00:18:26who can come up with evidence
00:18:28to say that it was me.
00:18:30I don't think it's about you.
00:18:32No, no, not at all.
00:18:34Either you keep your dignity
00:18:36in all those stories
00:18:38or you don't.
00:18:40I know for sure that
00:18:42none of my family
00:18:44did anything
00:18:46dishonorable
00:18:48for the whole of our century,
00:18:50for the whole of our life.
00:18:52I stand behind that.
00:18:54I interrupted you here
00:18:56when you were talking
00:18:58about the beginning of your career.
00:19:00You said that you started singing
00:19:02when you left Brčko.
00:19:06We also saw
00:19:08that your status
00:19:10as a star
00:19:12came overnight.
00:19:14It was a big boom in a year.
00:19:16You see,
00:19:18I was literally hungry
00:19:20when I was in college.
00:19:22I started singing
00:19:24in Brčko in 1906.
00:19:26I sang with an orchestra
00:19:28called Judex
00:19:30based on the index of Sarajevo.
00:19:32I had my honors
00:19:34and we lived quite decently.
00:19:36However,
00:19:38when I went to college,
00:19:40since the first big
00:19:42economic crisis was announced,
00:19:44of course,
00:19:46we didn't have enough money.
00:19:48Neither my parents,
00:19:50nor my family,
00:19:52nor I had enough money.
00:19:54So those six months
00:19:56were simply a scientific fantasy
00:19:58about the reality of life,
00:20:00where you don't have
00:20:02your mom cooking for you,
00:20:04where I realized
00:20:06that I had to take life
00:20:08into my own hands.
00:20:10Since I didn't have
00:20:12rich or influential parents,
00:20:14I had to start thinking
00:20:16about my destiny
00:20:18and deal with life.
00:20:20Since I knew how to sing,
00:20:22since I believed in myself,
00:20:24I decided to start singing
00:20:26and to persevere,
00:20:28because it was impossible.
00:20:30I only had enough money
00:20:32for one meal.
00:20:34I had to pay for college,
00:20:36I had to pay for the bus ticket
00:20:38where all the students
00:20:40used to go.
00:20:42Sometimes you pay,
00:20:44sometimes you hide.
00:20:46I always wondered
00:20:48if someone would catch me
00:20:50on the bus
00:20:52and if there would be a punishment.
00:20:54The bus station in Belgrade
00:20:56was not one of those
00:20:58big squares
00:21:00where it didn't rain,
00:21:02but you just stood there.
00:21:04I had an old jacket on me,
00:21:06I had a raincoat,
00:21:08and when it started to rain,
00:21:10there was a small house
00:21:12next to me,
00:21:14and we started to run together.
00:21:16I decided
00:21:18that I would totally
00:21:20change my life
00:21:22and that I wouldn't allow
00:21:24others to do the same.
00:21:26Did you ever think
00:21:28that you would succeed
00:21:30so quickly and in such quantity?
00:21:32No, no.
00:21:34Maybe when I was
00:21:36about 14 or 15 years old,
00:21:38a man came to our house
00:21:40and knocked on the door
00:21:42and asked us
00:21:44to give him a glass of water.
00:21:46My mother,
00:21:48my neighbor and I
00:21:50gave him a cup of coffee.
00:21:52When he had some rest,
00:21:54he looked at me
00:21:56and said
00:21:58that he would travel
00:22:00as much as a bird
00:22:02can spread its wings
00:22:04and fly,
00:22:06and that he would earn
00:22:08so much money
00:22:10that he would be able
00:22:12to leave his wallet
00:22:14under every step
00:22:16so that I wouldn't follow him.
00:22:18When you are
00:22:2014 years old,
00:22:22in puberty,
00:22:24and you live
00:22:26in an apartment
00:22:28of 65 or 75 square meters
00:22:30where your father only works,
00:22:32and your mother was
00:22:34a professional tailor,
00:22:36it sounds like a fairy tale.
00:22:38He told me
00:22:40that I would be so popular
00:22:42and that everyone would know me
00:22:44and that everyone
00:22:46would recognize me
00:22:48on the street.
00:22:50Of course, it sounded like a fairy tale to me.
00:22:52It was normal that someone
00:22:54with my brain and so much rationality
00:22:56as I still held in my head,
00:22:58I didn't believe it.
00:23:00He told me then
00:23:02that it would happen very soon,
00:23:04but then I thought like this.
00:23:06I told him,
00:23:08he is an old gentleman,
00:23:10he probably
00:23:12wants to thank me
00:23:14in some way.
00:23:18I am not that beautiful,
00:23:20I am not that smart,
00:23:22I am not that successful,
00:23:24I don't have rich and influential parents,
00:23:26I don't have any special money,
00:23:28I don't have a special high opinion
00:23:30about myself,
00:23:32so it can't happen to me.
00:23:34I definitely won't judge,
00:23:36because I have never been
00:23:38the type of woman who would judge.
00:23:40What do you know about being 14 years old?
00:23:42No, no, no.
00:23:44I was a child
00:23:46who always struggled.
00:23:48I was bothered by
00:23:50male-female chauvinism.
00:23:52I was bothered by the attitude
00:23:54that people generally had
00:23:56towards rich children
00:23:58and towards children from working families
00:24:00like I was.
00:24:02Rich children were always privileged.
00:24:04I also felt that at the faculty.
00:24:06It always bothered me.
00:24:08Will your children be privileged?
00:24:10My children...
00:24:12Boban and I are trying
00:24:14to get our children
00:24:16to choose their own name.
00:24:18They got their first name
00:24:20by birth.
00:24:22We give them
00:24:24a lot of parental support,
00:24:26but they will have to
00:24:28finish school abroad
00:24:30in order not to feel
00:24:32all the privileges they have.
00:24:34Are you strict?
00:24:36I think I am.
00:24:38We give them a lot of love,
00:24:40but we also expect
00:24:42very good results.
00:24:44We expect positive results.
00:24:46Children should be given
00:24:48love and support
00:24:50in life,
00:24:52when they need to
00:24:54expand their wings
00:24:56and conquer their territory.
00:24:58I think that by the end of high school
00:25:00it is the ideal time
00:25:02for children to leave their parents
00:25:04and finish school.
00:25:06They should leave their home.
00:25:08I think that the golden rule
00:25:10that I see everywhere
00:25:12in the world,
00:25:14not only in Serbia,
00:25:16but also in other countries,
00:25:18is that children should
00:25:20leave their parents
00:25:22in order to
00:25:24love them,
00:25:26respect them
00:25:28and know what it means
00:25:30to be a parent.
00:25:32Let's talk about your career.
00:25:34I read somewhere
00:25:36that you said
00:25:38that in your first
00:25:40or second year of your career
00:25:42you earned so much
00:25:44that you could buy 10 apartments
00:25:46and 10 cars.
00:25:48I want to ask you
00:25:50how such fame does not
00:25:52hit you in the head
00:25:54from a poor girl
00:25:56who was freezing
00:25:58on the parking lot
00:26:00to having 10 cars
00:26:02I have to admit
00:26:04that it is funny
00:26:06when I see
00:26:08our examples
00:26:10where someone records
00:26:12one album and goes crazy.
00:26:14Fame is something
00:26:16that is imaginary.
00:26:18It is not tangible.
00:26:20I think that we are famous
00:26:22only when we are on stage
00:26:24and when we exchange
00:26:26that energy.
00:26:28When you leave the stage
00:26:30you have to deal
00:26:32with everyday problems.
00:26:34I work with my children
00:26:36on homework,
00:26:38I teach them history,
00:26:40I help them with math,
00:26:42geography.
00:26:44When I leave the stage
00:26:46I am an ordinary woman
00:26:48who has to buy
00:26:50clothes for her children.
00:26:52I take care of the problems
00:26:54in the house,
00:26:56I take care of my parents,
00:26:58we share common problems.
00:27:00I really cannot understand
00:27:02why someone who is famous
00:27:04in this field can go crazy.
00:27:06I can understand
00:27:08that someone who is famous
00:27:10all over the world,
00:27:12like Michael Jackson,
00:27:14maybe he had a reason
00:27:16to go crazy.
00:27:18But I think
00:27:20that people
00:27:22with my
00:27:24rationalization
00:27:26are the biggest problem
00:27:28in my life.
00:27:30I am too normal.
00:27:32My rationalization
00:27:34does not allow me
00:27:36to get rid of
00:27:38too many problems.
00:27:40I think
00:27:42that my biggest success
00:27:44is that
00:27:46I forget
00:27:48those normal problems
00:27:50when I leave the stage.
00:27:52I can cry,
00:27:54I can play,
00:27:56I can sing,
00:27:58I can do everything
00:28:00that is important to me.
00:28:02I can hang out with the audience
00:28:04and that is the biggest magic
00:28:06that I have.
00:28:08I feel like a fish
00:28:10in the water.
00:28:12I read somewhere
00:28:14that you do not like
00:28:16the name Nadim Brenn.
00:28:18It was a strange name
00:28:20from the first day.
00:28:22Maybe...
00:28:26I am not saying
00:28:28that I am not a fighter
00:28:30in my life.
00:28:32But,
00:28:34considering my real name,
00:28:36I am Nadim.
00:28:38Everyone called me
00:28:40Fahret in Brčko.
00:28:42I got that name
00:28:44when I was playing basketball
00:28:46and my coach Vladimir
00:28:48told me...
00:28:50We had short names.
00:28:52Kata, Mira, Cile, Cana...
00:28:54He said
00:28:56that it is complicated for me
00:28:58to call you Fahret.
00:29:00He said that you will be called Brenn.
00:29:02I said that it does not matter.
00:29:04However,
00:29:06Brenn started to stay
00:29:08in the matches.
00:29:10When I started to sing,
00:29:12playing, of course,
00:29:14they started to call me
00:29:16Brenn, Fahret, Brenn, Fahret
00:29:18and Max.
00:29:20He totally
00:29:22changed my name.
00:29:24After that,
00:29:26no one could change it.
00:29:28I have to admit that
00:29:30I suffered a bit because of that name.
00:29:32I remember
00:29:36the great world stars.
00:29:38Claudia Cardinale,
00:29:40Raquel Belch,
00:29:42Sofia Loren,
00:29:44Clark Gable...
00:29:46All those names...
00:29:48I am not saying that I should
00:29:50be called like that.
00:29:52If I had to choose,
00:29:54I would call myself
00:29:56Sofia or something like that.
00:29:58Did you have to make up with it?
00:30:00I made up with it.
00:30:02I decided that
00:30:04from that beautiful Brenn
00:30:06I will show that she is a serious,
00:30:08rational and normal woman.
00:30:10Where did your popularity
00:30:12in Bulgaria and Romania come from?
00:30:14Let's talk about Bulgaria,
00:30:16as if they understood that language.
00:30:18Where did it come from in Romania?
00:30:20It was very strange for me.
00:30:22I can tell you that in 1987
00:30:24when my late manager,
00:30:26a man who I think
00:30:28is the most deserving
00:30:30for all my beginnings,
00:30:32told me that he would host me in Romania,
00:30:34it was shocking for me.
00:30:36I could not believe it.
00:30:38However, from that concert
00:30:40I have phenomenal memories.
00:30:42There is something else
00:30:44that was very special for that time.
00:30:46It was 1986.
00:30:50We were all the way
00:30:52from our border to TemiŔvar.
00:30:54People were throwing flowers
00:30:58on our cars.
00:31:02At that concert
00:31:04I was singing,
00:31:06because the stadium was full,
00:31:08there were about 60-70 thousand people.
00:31:10I was singing
00:31:12a lot of songs.
00:31:14When I climbed
00:31:16on a crane,
00:31:18usually we take
00:31:20a big fire extinguisher,
00:31:22where I climb into the box,
00:31:24then I move a little bit
00:31:26to get closer to the audience,
00:31:28because I cannot come to everyone.
00:31:30I noticed that when I climbed up,
00:31:32I looked over the stadium,
00:31:34there were tanks all around us.
00:31:36I thought
00:31:38it was normal.
00:31:40I thought it was probably
00:31:42from the year of 1945,
00:31:44now it is 1986,
00:31:46what are those tanks
00:31:48for, why were they put up?
00:31:50Of course, the concert was over
00:31:52and we went home,
00:31:54I asked
00:31:56why were those tanks put up.
00:31:58In case
00:32:00if it was the then president
00:32:02of the state ČovÅ”esko
00:32:04I don't want to overestimate myself, but I thought we were in a good relationship, but it was something specific, and after that it was forbidden for me to go to Romania.
00:32:24After that I heard that I had a love affair with the son of Ceausescu, that I spent an unforgettable night there, that they mistreated me, that there was everything and everything.
00:32:37You know, what people like to hear, or what the newspapers sell, you will get.
00:32:43And this year you have a concert in Sofia, if I'm not mistaken.
00:32:47Yes, we have a concert in Sofia in the plan, we had that big concert in Sofia in 1989, it was really crazy, then I was in the helicopter.
00:33:00Yes, that's what we saw at the beginning.
00:33:02Yes, yes, the ex-president Todor Živkov, they let me down, they told me that there were a few empty stadiums, I was happy to say that there is no concert, it doesn't matter, in the evening I will be in Sofia, it will be nice and that will be it.
00:33:17However, when we started to go down to that stadium, Levski, I thought there was some kind of a big game, that they probably played, I don't know, some world teams, a football game, and then the pilot told me to go down there,
00:33:36and that they would let me down three centimeters from the podium, and it really was like that, it's something that a person remembers.
00:33:44Those are the most impressive concerts in my life, and those are the concerts that a person really remembers, it's such a exchange of positive energy, where you understand why you do the job you do.
00:33:58Or, what you were singing then, is it kitsch today, when you look at it? Here, in the trailer, we also had notices that these are more or less happy jumpers, but they don't have any artistic value, I mean, art, how do you look at it?
00:34:12No, I don't care about all of that, you know how it is, these are stories where you simply have to allow the media to comment in various ways.
00:34:25The fact is that they have been dealing with me since 1981, 1982, that they have been dealing with me in all kinds of fields, as I would call them, psychologists, sociologists, musicologists, I don't know, everyone has been dealing with me,
00:34:42and, simply, from my perspective, what they talked about, some had an idea of what I was doing, and some really had little to do with it.
00:34:50Let me formulate the question, were you satisfied that you could have played your career in some other musical direction?
00:34:56No, I liked it.
00:34:57I read that you listened to Cepelina...
00:34:59No, I liked, and look, what I grew up on, it was the World Music Council, in the 60s, 70s, 80s, what we all listen to, what it used to be before.
00:35:12So, everything we used to listen to, we still listen to today, and it remained as evergreen, but we used to listen to Sevdah, we used to listen to Croatian pop music, we used to listen to Serbian pop music, we used to listen to...
00:35:28Everything we used to listen to, everything that was good, it remained today.
00:35:32I have to admit that there was some hesitation in some of my music, but what I am satisfied with, I am satisfied with the fact that, in the whole story, I started with a completely new musical direction, which was pop music with elements of folk.
00:35:51We mixed it a bit with folk music.
00:35:54The fact is that many critics didn't like it, because they liked the radical division into, you know, pop music, rock music, serious music, Sevdah, classical music, you know.
00:36:08Everyone liked it, no one liked to mix it, to make some kind of change, to move forward.
00:36:15Why would Pavarotti, a man who was involved in serious and classical music, you know, that he recorded and made concerts, not only with Carreros and Placido Domingo, but he worked with all the famous world rock singers and singers.
00:36:32And now, they have denied him those public performances, that it is no longer an opera.
00:36:35However, now, from this perspective, with which I am happy and satisfied, I am satisfied because it has become a musical direction, which is changing, shaping, creating, and now it comes out into something that I really like now, something that I really like.
00:36:51And what we are doing now, I want to present to the audience, which has been with me all these years, a brand that has matured, a brand that will, all that music, together with, my producer Aleksandar Milić-Milić said it a while ago, who made all these last nine songs,
00:37:14where we will rearrange all that music that has been created from the 80s up to now and play with a big band, it will be a band of 40 people on stage, where you will hear how that Balkan music sounds in new arrangements, that is, for some 21st century.
00:37:31One of the things that cannot be avoided in the show, so now we are talking about your career, how it was in the 80s, so I cannot avoid your personal tragedy, which ended happily, and it is about your nephew's son.
00:37:46Did your life change then, when it happened, when you remember that breakup now? It wasn't that long ago.
00:37:56No, it was, I will tell you the exact date, November 23rd, 2027, 2000. So that is something that represents for me, for God and for our family, represents the biggest break in our life, where I decided more, I have always chosen that optimism will be my life direction.
00:38:22However, it was a very big break, where you fight to come to the air, to simply survive. I would not go into the details of all this now, the fact is that God, me and of course Stefan, that one part of us irrevocably, one part of you simply dies, one part of you disappears.
00:38:49However, considering that, because it seems to me that everyone in this country survives, everyone has their own personal tragedy, I would not let this show go into some negative story, we all have our bad stories, my luck, our luck that the whole story ended the way it did.
00:39:10I want that part of my life, that story, I can not forget, I can not push anywhere, but I try not to talk about it, because whenever I talk, I lose my air, my breath and my strength.
00:39:25But we all survived, I say, some difficult moments and what I want is to continue to live, to continue to work, to continue to have a positive attitude towards people, towards my family in general, to cure everything that hurt me the most in my life through my music in some way.
00:39:47I wanted to ask you that.
00:39:49I succeeded in that.
00:39:50I wanted to ask you to never sing again.
00:39:54I did not think that I would never sing again in my life, because I am simply a woman who loves to sing when I am happy.
00:40:02And in general, that meeting with the audience for me is, I do not know, you know how, everyone has their own drug, someone smokes, someone drinks, someone falls in love, someone does sports too much, you know, someone collects brands, everyone has their own little hobby that they are obsessed with.
00:40:22If I can say what I am obsessed with, what I love to do the most in life, and that is to do my job, because that job for me is simply a cure for my soul.
00:40:34I have to admit that my husband and I, Bobo and I, we are quite private in various jobs and my return to the stage is not a financial return, but ...
00:40:49You do not need it?
00:40:51No, I do not need it and I am very happy because I do not have to sing in order to sustain my family.
00:40:58I live simply with a man who is extremely capable and valuable, so it does not matter to us if ...
00:41:04You mention him a lot.
00:41:06Well, because he is my life partner, he represents an integral part of my life and we have had a lot of difficult moments.
00:41:14Do you get divorced in the media?
00:41:17Not only do they divorce us, but I hear everything and they ask me everything.
00:41:21Do they beat you regularly?
00:41:23Two to three times a week.
00:41:25Yes, you know, when you get up and get a shower, they ask you why?
00:41:29Just to be good.
00:41:31In fact, you know what?
00:41:33No one really knows the truth.
00:41:35I am like that, I am aggressive.
00:41:37He is afraid, he fights with me, that's it.
00:41:39You mentioned here that you are financially independent, probably partly because of that.
00:41:45Well, you have made a lot of money in your career, when it went best for you when it comes to singing.
00:41:50However, you are doing well now when it comes to grant production.
00:41:54I would like to ask you something.
00:41:56There was a story here last year that you will come to the Croatian market.
00:42:00And my question is, would you come to the Croatian market with the grant production?
00:42:07Would it mean anything for the Croatian national identity?
00:42:14Everyone brought it up as yes.
00:42:16They bring us a car from Belgrade.
00:42:19Now we will be overshadowed by Turbofolk.
00:42:22What is it about? What was your idea?
00:42:24I will cut the question short.
00:42:26Did you think about developing talents here in Croatia who would sing pop or something?
00:42:30Of course not.
00:42:32You see, we are doing this job, I have been doing it since I was 21, 22 years old.
00:42:39Surely we would adapt to the market we would come to.
00:42:44And what we do, I don't know if you watched it well,
00:42:48we just show people what people just like to see.
00:42:53But to make the show a bit more interesting,
00:42:56let me show you what people just don't like to see,
00:42:59so they can see some faces and resemblances of some music in our country.
00:43:04The goal of grant production is to find new talents
00:43:10and to provide these new talents in a dignified way,
00:43:15in a way that should simply succeed, and for the audience to choose you.
00:43:20So, what grant production does,
00:43:23is that we do auditions all over Serbia,
00:43:26we choose young talents that we think are good and talented,
00:43:32and then through the show, through SMS messages,
00:43:36and of course through our shows,
00:43:42we allow the audience to choose their idols,
00:43:45the audience simply dictates what they would like to hear
00:43:50these young stars sing.
00:43:52At the same time, these young children,
00:43:54they are 16 years old,
00:43:56all these children come with their parents' permission,
00:43:59they continue to go to their schools every day.
00:44:02So, we have a tribal way,
00:44:07how to provide young people,
00:44:10so that they don't have to go to various producers,
00:44:12to offer them some opportunities,
00:44:16that I don't know how, you know, to become stars.
00:44:20There are those who will say that Pink is a delusion of people,
00:44:24because it forces music 24 hours a day,
00:44:28and gives people what they want to hear,
00:44:31but does not educate them,
00:44:33does not warn them that life is not what it looks like,
00:44:37that life is not what it looks like,
00:44:40and with a lot of slurs, as you can see in the songs,
00:44:43which are constantly served to them.
00:44:45Please, I mean, what you just said,
00:44:49every smart and normal man, a rational man,
00:44:53realizes that we are on TV,
00:44:56chubby, beautiful, well-dressed, well-dressed.
00:44:59At that moment, when you leave the stage,
00:45:01you have to take off all your clothes
00:45:03and enter a completely normal and ordinary life.
00:45:05That's what I said at the beginning.
00:45:07However, show business,
00:45:10that is, television, movies,
00:45:14shows,
00:45:16they have to create a small illusion of happiness.
00:45:20You can't come now and sing in a working model,
00:45:23I don't know, dirty, fat, not made up, not touched.
00:45:27So, television has to provide that beauty,
00:45:32that little illusion,
00:45:33that little illusion of happiness.
00:45:35It is normal that it is,
00:45:37but what is with us,
00:45:39it is certain,
00:45:41it is that we allow young talents
00:45:45to be seen by the media,
00:45:48to be seen by the whole public,
00:45:50and that the public simply directs them to criticism,
00:45:53to realize that there is criticism,
00:45:55that there is that beautiful side
00:45:57and that there is that bad side.
00:45:59And for TV Pink,
00:46:01I'll just tell you one thing.
00:46:03TV Pink is a great television.
00:46:11You have a lot of televisions,
00:46:13both others and others.
00:46:15You have RTS1, you have RTS2,
00:46:17you have Studio B, you have B92,
00:46:20you have TV Kosava, you have TV Alba.
00:46:23Okay, so you want to say that every viewer
00:46:26is self-aware of what the next person will watch.
00:46:28In any case, you have programs
00:46:30that you can have remote control,
00:46:31you can change channels,
00:46:33you can simply choose whatever you want.
00:46:35What I asked you,
00:46:37do you think that you will continue
00:46:39to expand this business in Croatia?
00:46:41Last year there was a story,
00:46:43but in the end, Pink did not manage
00:46:45to come to the Croatian market.
00:46:47Is there still that desire?
00:46:49I don't know what to tell you.
00:46:51You will have to ask Željko Mitrović,
00:46:53the owner of the television.
00:46:55I think that's it.
00:46:57I think he should be one of your next guests
00:46:59so that you can talk.
00:47:01You said that you are a strict mother.
00:47:03Do you influence the musical taste of your children?
00:47:05Do you suggest them to listen to,
00:47:07I don't know, seka or keba,
00:47:09or do you direct them to listen to something else?
00:47:13You see, in our family,
00:47:15children are taught what is good and what is bad.
00:47:19What is legal, what is illegal,
00:47:22what is ethical, what is unethical,
00:47:24what is moral, what is immoral.
00:47:26Children should see everything,
00:47:29they should hear everything,
00:47:31they should learn a lot,
00:47:33and they should get education,
00:47:35of course, in school,
00:47:37they should have home education,
00:47:39but it is best for children and people
00:47:41what is forbidden.
00:47:43I think that people should never
00:47:45forbid anything excessively,
00:47:47because what is forbidden
00:47:49intrigues them the most.
00:47:51People should see everything
00:47:53and choose from it what it is.
00:47:55His lifestyle, style and way of life,
00:47:57what builds his personality,
00:47:58in the end, you will see it in his life.
00:48:01So, we don't forbid them anything.
00:48:04There are things that are forbidden
00:48:06in our family.
00:48:08I think every parent will forbid it.
00:48:10It is drugs, it is alcohol,
00:48:12it is everything that is immoral,
00:48:16it is inhuman.
00:48:18Every mother, every parent
00:48:20has it, and it is the same everywhere,
00:48:22in every country.
00:48:24And children are like children.
00:48:26You know how children love to listen
00:48:28to their mother,
00:48:30they have their own taste,
00:48:32they have their own choice.
00:48:34Have you ever said that
00:48:36they don't recognize you
00:48:38when they see you on old videos?
00:48:40Why? What is it about?
00:48:42No, they just don't believe me.
00:48:44When I show them all those videos,
00:48:46when they see me,
00:48:48how I come and where I come from,
00:48:50they say, no, mom,
00:48:52that is not you,
00:48:54that is some other woman.
00:48:56You know why?
00:48:58Because you are a sex symbol.
00:49:00Because, there is no doubt
00:49:02that you played the sex appel.
00:49:04So, on the card, short skirts,
00:49:06and at that time you were,
00:49:08and you said it yourself,
00:49:10singers with longer skirts.
00:49:12I think it is a little wrong
00:49:14to judge at that time.
00:49:16I forced it on purpose
00:49:18because I was bothered
00:49:20by that double standard,
00:49:22that false ethics.
00:49:24You know what happened to me?
00:49:27In 1982,
00:49:29when we were recording
00:49:31Čačak Čačak,
00:49:33my mother and I
00:49:35sewed,
00:49:37because I didn't have a skirt,
00:49:39we sewed bermuda
00:49:41and a blouse in the top
00:49:43that I had tied.
00:49:45I sewed all those
00:49:47Svarovski shirts
00:49:49that were on me.
00:49:51And, of course,
00:49:53we sang Čačak Čačak
00:49:54and, of course,
00:49:56I had my stylists,
00:49:58my hairdryer.
00:50:00I didn't have any of that.
00:50:02I didn't have any money
00:50:04to buy a luxurious wardrobe.
00:50:06I sang Čačak Čačak
00:50:08and the audience was delighted
00:50:10with everything.
00:50:12With everything, ok.
00:50:14I don't want to go into details.
00:50:16I realized that I got
00:50:18what I needed
00:50:20and what is most important to me
00:50:22because I know
00:50:24that I can't
00:50:26bring up that false
00:50:28double standard
00:50:30where everyone was looking at me
00:50:32to see what I was wearing
00:50:34and how I was wearing.
00:50:36And that recording
00:50:38was taken and cut
00:50:40by Jovan Ristić
00:50:42on that tape
00:50:44and they transferred it
00:50:46to another tape.
00:50:48They threw me out
00:50:50of that whole story,
00:50:52that hit parade.
00:50:54So, he gave it to Mića Minimax
00:50:56and said,
00:50:58I have a recording
00:51:00with which you can have fun.
00:51:02Mića Minimax took that recording
00:51:04and played it
00:51:06on Sunday afternoon
00:51:08when I was in Zrenjanina
00:51:10with Slatko Greho.
00:51:12And I was just having lunch
00:51:14when that recording started
00:51:16where Milovan Ilić Minimax,
00:51:18of course he is dead now,
00:51:20but he is a wonderful conductor,
00:51:22a wonderful colleague of mine,
00:51:24said,
00:51:26now you are going to see
00:51:28how the building breaks
00:51:30when Lepa Brena sings to you.
00:51:32But Lepa Brena said
00:51:34that I didn't really look
00:51:36like Lepa Brena to him.
00:51:38He said it a bit sarcastically,
00:51:40a bit ironically.
00:51:42I was shocked
00:51:44when I appeared on TV
00:51:46but that was the beginning
00:51:48when no one else
00:51:50could change
00:51:52my pseudonym.
00:51:54They wanted to call me Fahret
00:51:56and everyone called me that.
00:51:58My question was,
00:52:00is it possible to play
00:52:02on the Sex Appeal?
00:52:04It's not for you,
00:52:06because you were smart enough
00:52:08to direct your career
00:52:10through all these years.
00:52:12But if you play on the Sex Appeal,
00:52:14after 10 years, 15,
00:52:16younger people come,
00:52:18prettier,
00:52:20ok, with longer legs,
00:52:22but younger generations
00:52:24come.
00:52:26That was the story
00:52:28behind my back.
00:52:30When I appeared on TV
00:52:32and everyone called me,
00:52:34I heard a conversation
00:52:36where they asked me
00:52:38whose flesh am I?
00:52:40For me,
00:52:42that was my initial capital
00:52:44that I will never
00:52:46in my life,
00:52:48because my brain is
00:52:50constructed that way,
00:52:52I will never be
00:52:54able to express myself
00:52:56with my own quality.
00:52:58And the way I look,
00:53:00the way I look,
00:53:02I can't cut it off,
00:53:04I can't eliminate it.
00:53:06I decided to express myself
00:53:08with my work,
00:53:10not only that I am not flesh,
00:53:12but that I have a lot to show
00:53:14and I will say it
00:53:16and it will be something
00:53:18that will always have
00:53:20some weight and meaning.
00:53:22Would it be too intimate
00:53:24for you?
00:53:26No, plastic surgery is something
00:53:28that, thank God,
00:53:30has entered every housewife's
00:53:32little door,
00:53:34so when the time comes,
00:53:36I will start.
00:53:38For now, nothing?
00:53:40I will start in general.
00:53:42Where from?
00:53:44I hope they will put a screw
00:53:46up here,
00:53:48so that it all slowly
00:53:50goes up.
00:53:52For now, nothing?
00:53:54I don't have any problems
00:53:56with myself.
00:53:58I think that
00:54:01what is very important
00:54:03is that,
00:54:05you see,
00:54:07what many girls
00:54:09are trying to do
00:54:11is to be ideal.
00:54:13The thing is not
00:54:15to be ideal,
00:54:17you have to become someone.
00:54:19And not to do it
00:54:21with your physical attributes.
00:54:22You can correct
00:54:24some enormous corrections
00:54:26if something is really
00:54:28catastrophic for you,
00:54:30but I am against
00:54:32those huge breasts,
00:54:34against those big puffed
00:54:36moustaches,
00:54:38that bothers me a little.
00:54:40When we talk about complexes,
00:54:42I recently read,
00:54:44I think this week,
00:54:46that Jennifer Aniston
00:54:48burst into tears
00:54:50when she discovered
00:54:52that her husband
00:54:54is gay.
00:54:56I am 48 years old,
00:54:58we celebrated
00:55:00my birthday,
00:55:02because my children
00:55:04always insist
00:55:06on celebrating it.
00:55:08I am very satisfied
00:55:10with my life,
00:55:12and considering
00:55:14what it was,
00:55:16how it was,
00:55:18I think I have a reason
00:55:20to be happy and satisfied.
00:55:22Of course,
00:55:24like everyone else,
00:55:26with ups and downs,
00:55:28it is not as fairy-tale
00:55:30as public figures
00:55:32like to show.
00:55:34I lost weight
00:55:36when I was 14 years old.
00:55:38I had a gray change
00:55:40on my head
00:55:42from about 13 gray hairs.
00:55:44That was my famous
00:55:46change of luck.
00:55:48And when our children
00:55:50left us,
00:55:52we were completely white.
00:55:54And now,
00:55:56when we left Belgrade,
00:55:58when we landed in America,
00:56:00when we landed in Florida,
00:56:02when we looked at each other
00:56:04after 10-15 days,
00:56:06when we looked at each other,
00:56:08I think that
00:56:10I had gray hair
00:56:12and I was about
00:56:14200 years older.
00:56:16I could not recognize
00:56:18myself at all.
00:56:20I always think
00:56:22that there is a way
00:56:24to act on yourself
00:56:26and to work on yourself.
00:56:28I have to admit
00:56:30that what I do
00:56:32helped me a lot.
00:56:34I am very busy
00:56:36and sport helps me.
00:56:38Are you afraid of illness?
00:56:40A few years ago,
00:56:42you had a heart attack.
00:56:44Yes.
00:56:46It made me pay
00:56:48more attention to myself
00:56:50and my diet.
00:56:52I do not know
00:56:54how it happened to me.
00:56:56It is probably a result
00:56:58of genetics.
00:57:00It is a little funny
00:57:02when all the world stars
00:57:04who come to our country
00:57:06always publish
00:57:08in the newspapers
00:57:10what they ordered
00:57:12for the pre-concert.
00:57:14They must have
00:57:16a special shirt.
00:57:18Yes, yes.
00:57:20They must have
00:57:22something bizarre.
00:57:24These are things
00:57:26that your teams
00:57:28and PRs
00:57:30think about.
00:57:32We are too normal people
00:57:34and we cannot get out
00:57:36of this normality.
00:57:38I think it is a little late
00:57:40for us to change this year.
00:57:42How many normal people
00:57:44in the world
00:57:46have houses?
00:57:48Let's see how far
00:57:50this normality goes.
00:57:52We invest
00:57:54in everything
00:57:56we do.
00:57:58No, let's
00:58:00at least
00:58:02enjoy the fact
00:58:04that someone can buy
00:58:06houses all over the world.
00:58:08How many do you have?
00:58:10I have two.
00:58:12Where are they?
00:58:14One is in Florida
00:58:16and the other
00:58:18is somewhere else.
00:58:19You mentioned
00:58:21the Mediterranean.
00:58:23Do you want to buy a house
00:58:25somewhere in the Mediterranean?
00:58:27We love Croatia.
00:58:29We love to come here.
00:58:31We come here every year.
00:58:33We have a lot of friends here.
00:58:35His sports memories
00:58:37are connected to this.
00:58:39I don't know if he has
00:58:41any other memories.
00:58:43Ok, ok.
00:58:45I don't want to upset him.
00:58:47I also have
00:58:49a wonderful friendship
00:58:51with my Croatian cousin.
00:58:53Would you like to buy a house
00:58:55somewhere here?
00:58:57Of course.
00:58:59Where do you see yourself
00:59:01in 10 years?
00:59:03In 10 years I think
00:59:05I will stay a little longer
00:59:07in Florida.
00:59:09I will devote more time
00:59:11to my children
00:59:13because I think
00:59:15they will need
00:59:17a little support.
00:59:19How many children
00:59:21do you have?
00:59:23We have
00:59:2511 children.
00:59:27We don't have time
00:59:29for crisis years
00:59:31because every year
00:59:33there is always
00:59:35a crisis.
00:59:37If it's not our crisis
00:59:39then it's a world crisis.
00:59:41You mentioned
00:59:43one of the first
00:59:45Bobins.
00:59:47Yes, yes.
00:59:49He was born in
00:59:51the year 2000.
00:59:53We go to Houston
00:59:55to get our
00:59:57diplomas.
00:59:59Next year
01:00:01we have
01:00:03another son.
01:00:05We don't have
01:00:07enough time
01:00:09for a break.
01:00:11I wanted to ask
01:00:13if you ever
01:00:15sang in front of
01:00:17an empty hall?
01:00:19No, no.
01:00:21We never sang.
01:00:23It can only happen
01:00:25I don't know.
01:00:27I can't remember.
01:00:29I can't remember.
01:00:31The time has passed.
01:00:33Is it possible?
01:00:35I don't know.
01:00:37Either I talk too much
01:00:39or it is.
01:00:41I don't know.
01:00:43Thank you for coming.
01:00:45Good luck in your career.
01:00:49That's all for today.
01:00:51See you in a week.
01:00:53Bye.
01:01:19Bye.