The Reporters | Khawar Ghumman & Chaudhry Ghulam Hussain | ARY News | 19th September 2024
The Reporters | Khawar Ghumman & Chaudhry Ghulam Hussain | ARY News | 19th September 2024
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, dear viewers, welcome to the program.
00:20Dear viewers, once again we will talk about the story that took place in Lebanon yesterday,
00:28a day ago, and now the news is coming that the people of Hamas are using walkie-talkie,
00:33that has also started to explode.
00:35There is a lot of commentary on this on an international level.
00:39Now what is behind this, what story is being made, we will talk in detail.
00:43Kamran Murtaza Sahib has said that when we spoke to Respected Bilawal Bhutto Azardari Sahib,
00:50he expressed some of his compulsion.
00:53Now this detail is coming in front of you.
00:56You will remember those meetings that took place a day before the assembly session.
01:00Very interesting developments are taking place.
01:03Now who is wrong, who is right, we will talk about this also in the program.
01:08But today our first story, dear viewers, is that it seems that the number game that was not being completed earlier,
01:16the government is going to complete that number game.
01:19How will that number game be completed?
01:21They are going to complete the number game like this.
01:23Today, on behalf of the leaders of Pakistan Muslim League Noon, MNAs and MPAs, a petition has been filed.
01:31In the election commission, they have been told that seats are vacant, reserved seats, special seats,
01:38we have to complete them.
01:40Since the house is vacant, the house should be completed.
01:43And this is the fundamental responsibility of the Election Commission of Pakistan.
01:47The Supreme Court has issued a decision.
01:49Whatever decision you have to make, make it.
01:52Along with this, two more letters have come forward today.
01:56One letter has been written by the Speaker of the National Assembly, Respected Ayaz Sadiq Sahib.
02:01And the second letter has been written from Punjab by Respected Malik Ahmed Sahib.
02:08And these two letters have been addressed by the Election Commission of Pakistan.
02:13Viewers, these three letters have come from different places.
02:17They have the same purpose.
02:20The argument presented in them is in front of you.
02:25The argument has been presented that the Supreme Court of Pakistan decides on 12th July.
02:31The Supreme Court of Pakistan decides that those who were free are also members of PTI.
02:36Those who were of PTI, who had submitted the affidavit at the time of election, they were of PTI.
02:42Therefore, all these people should be included in PTI.
02:45And those who are eligible for special seats, they should be notified.
02:52After that, the Election Commission takes that decision.
02:59They are worried that it is a direct decision of the Supreme Court.
03:03Then there is a legislation in the National Assembly.
03:07There are two points in the Legislation of the National Assembly.
03:14It is very clear in the Election Act 2017 that if a candidate does not have a party symbol at the time of election,
03:23does not have an affiliation ticket with any party,
03:27he takes part in the election as a free member.
03:32And the second point is that when the election is over,
03:35within three days, the party he joins, that is full and final,
03:42after that he cannot be changed.
03:44This is an amendment.
03:46Fundamentally, these points of the Election Act 2017 are re-asserted.
03:51And one thing is put in it that the amendment that we have made again,
03:57it is a decision of the Supreme Court in front of it,
04:00it is a decision of the High Court in front of it, it will not stand.
04:03Today, the respected Speaker of the National Assembly and the respected Speaker of the Punjab Assembly have reiterated the same point again.
04:12They said that this decision of the Supreme Court does not make any sense at all.
04:18It cannot be implemented at all.
04:22You should follow the law that we have made, which we have changed in the Election Act 2017.
04:29These are the letters to the audience today.
04:31Let's talk about this first.
04:33Mr. Zahid Mishwani, Election Commission of Pakistan,
04:36because for the past three to four days, there has been a meeting in the Election Commission,
04:41regarding the decision of the Supreme Court,
04:43because you know from the eight-member bench, there was also a clarification,
04:47the clarification asked by the Election Commission,
04:49that what we have to do.
04:51So, the Supreme Court has told you again that what you have to do.
04:54It has told you that all these people belong to PTI,
04:57and you should give their seats to PTI.
05:00Mr. Zahid Mishwani, now these two letters have come in front of us,
05:04from the National Assembly and from their Speaker and the Speaker of the Punjab Assembly.
05:08It is written very clearly in it that you should follow the law that we have passed.
05:16What is the Election Commission doing now?
05:19Whatever has been agreed upon, it has to be agreed upon.
05:21It has to be agreed upon by the Supreme Court.
05:23It has to be agreed upon by the Supreme Court.
05:24If the law passed by the National Assembly has to be agreed upon, it has to be agreed upon.
05:28Why are you sitting?
05:30Actually, the past decisions of the Election Commission have become a headache for them.
05:36Today is the third day.
05:37The Election Commission sits daily on this decision and order of the Supreme Court,
05:42and the Arrakeen Chief Election Commissioner,
05:45their law and the experts of the law, all sit together.
05:49But the decision is made that there is no result.
05:52We will talk about this again tomorrow.
05:54Even today, the Election Commission had a meeting on this issue.
05:58And in that meeting, the officers of the law wing,
06:03the experts of the law and the law,
06:05they formally briefed the Commission.
06:09They also briefed the Commission on the law, the amendment,
06:13and the decision of the Supreme Court.
06:16And it was said that the PTI, which does not collect the list of special sessions,
06:21is not eligible,
06:23and that the PTI is not organized until the Inter-Party Elections are accepted.
06:28So, the things that are inside come out like this.
06:32But the Election Commission's own issue,
06:35or their own opinion on this issue,
06:38has not come forward yet.
06:40It has been defended on this issue,
06:42or it has been suggested that more attention will be paid to this issue.
06:46But the letter that has just started,
06:49and in which the Speaker, Ayat Sadiq,
06:52has clearly demanded that special sessions not be held under the amended Act,
06:58this has added to that.
07:01And now, it is possible that the letters that have come from the Iraqis,
07:07it is possible that they will not only consult on this issue,
07:11but further action will be taken on this issue.
07:14And if necessary, then they will be formally called and heard by the Commission.
07:20But since the decisions of the past have been so controversial and so one-sided,
07:28that when the Supreme Court's decision came to them,
07:32they had to act upon it.
07:35And now that a solution has come forward,
07:38they are working on it.
07:40Let's see how the Election Commission of Pakistan acts on this issue.
07:43Thank you very much, Mr. Mishwani.
07:45I wanted to ask a question.
07:47Okay, sorry, you can go.
07:49You can ask a question.
07:51Mr. Chaudhary will answer you first.
07:53You can ask a question, Mr. Chaudhary.
07:55Mr. Mishwani is present with us.
07:57Mr. Chaudhary, I feel that the Election Commission was holding a meeting every day
08:01and they were waiting for these letters.
08:04Mr. Chaudhary, please forgive me.
08:07This is a very unique kind of thing.
08:12But this can be a fact.
08:16But it is a fact that the decisions of the Election Commission in the past
08:21have now become a headache for them.
08:24They accepted the decision of the Supreme Court
08:29and then filed an appeal in the Supreme Court for guidance.
08:32Now that these things have come forward,
08:34another decision of the Supreme Court has come forward
08:36and along with that, the law and the amendment has also come forward.
08:39So now the amendment and the law...
08:42Mr. Mishwani, thank you very much for giving us time.
08:45Mr. Hassan, you had already told us that a petition like this was coming.
08:48And it came to the Election Commission from the PM's side.
08:52Now these two letters have also come forward.
08:54This question is being raised on this.
08:56If the law passed by the National Assembly was a precedent,
09:02then it should have been implemented a long time ago.
09:05There is a constitutional amendment.
09:07You saw the drama that took place in the City Council regarding the constitutional amendment.
09:10Now after that, Mr. Maulana said yesterday that
09:13we completely reject this petition.
09:17Now in the City Council, it is a hot topic
09:20that the designated seats will go back to the same status
09:24on which they were before the Supreme Court's decision.
09:29This means that the PTI that was going to get it,
09:32will get it back to the PDM communities.
09:35Yes, Hassan, what is your information?
09:37Look, information, first of all, I would like to clarify a little.
09:40Maybe you were going to say something, so that will be a little.
09:43This is not a law passed by the National Assembly.
09:47This is basically Pakistan's Election Act 2017,
09:51which is currently a law.
09:54So basically, under Election Act 2017,
09:57Mr. Hassan Ayub, you are very intelligent.
10:02We are completely in favor of your intelligence.
10:05I did not want to say anything wrong.
10:07I wanted to tell you that after the decision,
10:10who has to pass the law?
10:12The National Assembly has to pass it.
10:14And sir, it was initiated by the National Assembly.
10:18The President assents it.
10:20If the President assents it, it becomes a law.
10:22What are we talking about?
10:24Read the letter and tell me.
10:26Read the letter and tell me.
10:27Have you read the letter of the National Assembly?
10:29No, I have not read the letter.
10:31Read it.
10:32No matter what the letter says,
10:34if the law is passed by the National Assembly,
10:36and if it is not passed by the Senate, then it will become a law.
10:38What kind of debate has Hassan Ayub gone into?
10:40Now everyone knows that the National Assembly initiated it.
10:43Listen to me.
10:45There is nothing wrong in that.
10:47I was trying to tell you.
10:50The Speaker of the National Assembly is saying that
10:53these special sessions are the right of the National Assembly.
10:59The National Assembly is incomplete.
11:01So, we have passed this law.
11:04It was initiated by the Speaker of the National Assembly.
11:07So, everyone knows that the law that is passed
11:10by the National Assembly is passed by the Senate.
11:13The President also assents it.
11:16Please do not waste time in auxiliary matters.
11:23Please go ahead, Hassan Sahib.
11:25Yes.
11:26Now, the matter is that
11:28when the amendment was made in the Election Act,
11:31it was made retrospective.
11:33Now, the problem is that it was also said that
11:36whatever amendment is being made,
11:39no court decision can affect it.
11:42Now, this is the law of the day.
11:44This is the law of the day.
11:46Now, when this is the law of the day,
11:48then the Election Commission also has to work according to the law.
11:53The judges of the Supreme Court have also taken an oath to act according to the law.
11:58So, the compulsion for the Election Commission has become
12:01that on one side there is the judgment of the Supreme Court
12:03and on the other hand, at this time,
12:05the state has to act according to the law.
12:08So, the judgment of the Election Commission is being held.
12:11Now, they have to focus on this.
12:13Their legal department also has to focus on this.
12:15And then, eventually, they will have to decide.
12:18But really, it has become a little difficult for the Election Commission.
12:22But is the law superior or the order of the Supreme Court?
12:28So, in my opinion, the law is superior
12:31and the order of the Supreme Court will be inferior to the law.
12:35Okay, your opinion has come forward.
12:37Mr. Nagvi, obviously, there is a fight going on, a confrontation between the institutions.
12:43In my opinion, there are no two opinions on this.
12:46Everyone is commenting on this.
12:48The decision before the Election Commission of Pakistan is of July 12.
12:53After that, on August 7, the law is passed.
12:58On August 8, the President of the country signs it.
13:02For the satisfaction of Mr. Hassan Ayub,
13:04on August 9, this act is notified in the Gazette of Pakistan.
13:10It becomes the law of Pakistan.
13:14And the parliament passes it.
13:16And the President of Pakistan signs it.
13:19After that, it becomes part of the Gazette.
13:21Now, the question is being raised here
13:25that you, the Election Commission, have been sitting on something for so long.
13:30You have to obey any law on one thing.
13:32If you want to obey the decision of the Supreme Court, then follow it.
13:35If you want to follow the law of the National Assembly or Parliament or the Gazette of Pakistan,
13:39which is the Rajul Waqt of Pakistan, then follow it.
13:43Why are you fighting in the middle?
13:45Look, the matter did not end on August 9 when it came to the Gazette of Pakistan.
13:50Or when the decision of the Supreme Court came, the matter did not end after that.
13:54So, what is the law doing?
13:55The law is making you go round and round.
13:57And the party that gets the hand, makes it round.
13:59And you are going round and round.
14:01Let's talk on the basis of logic.
14:03Wherever institutions are formed in the world,
14:05the offices of the institutions,
14:07they work according to their job description.
14:10That this is your job description and you have to follow it.
14:13Now, there is a big objection that,
14:15why did the Speaker of the National Assembly or the Speaker of the Punjab Assembly write the letter?
14:18The Speaker of the National Assembly, the Speaker of the Punjab Assembly,
14:21will only demand that Iwan be completed.
14:23He did not write that these sessions should be given to our Jamaat.
14:27He said that according to the law that has been passed,
14:30these sessions should be decided as soon as possible.
14:33So, there is absolutely no objection in that,
14:35that all these things are due to following the job description of every employee.
14:41The Speaker is also following his job description.
14:44We are sitting in this show,
14:45our management is also following his job description.
14:49Isra is following his job description everywhere in the world.
14:52So, let's put this aside.
14:54Now, let's see what is happening.
14:56You said a very good thing that this confrontation is going on.
14:59This will not end now.
15:00Now, this confrontation will end at some big scene.
15:03And what will that big scene be?
15:05The nation should wait for it.
15:06May Allah be kind.
15:07May Allah save Pakistan from some big scene.
15:09No, it will not be about Pakistan.
15:11It will be about these governments and opposition.
15:14Obviously, when governments are in front and back,
15:18then the loss of the country and the state of Pakistan is obvious.
15:26Chaudhry Ghulam Sain Sahib,
15:27this letter of Sardar Ayaz Sadiq Sahib,
15:30he is saying very clearly,
15:33the letter that is written in it,
15:35let's read it again,
15:37because Mr. Hassan has raised a lot of objections.
15:40Let's translate it into Urdu and read it.
15:43This is the letter of Sardar Ayaz Sadiq Sahib to the Election Commission.
15:47The title of the letter is,
15:48the importance of holding parliamentary elections,
15:52and the distribution of special seats.
15:54Let's read the first number 5.
15:56In light of the current situation,
15:58the candidates who have already joined a political party,
16:04cannot be allowed to change their parties under the Election Act.
16:12The Election Commission cannot allocate a seat
16:16without fully implementing the amended Election Act.
16:22The Supreme Court's decision on the amended Election Act
16:25was in effect before it was amended,
16:27however, this decision cannot be implemented now.
16:30In fact, this amended Election Act will supersede the previous decisions
16:36and will remain in effect.
16:38It is important to point out that this is not only my point of view,
16:42but it is also the principle of the Supreme Court.
16:45You are informed that the amended Election Act is currently in effect.
16:50Therefore, it is the duty of the Election Commission
16:53to respect the laws made by the Parliament
16:55and to uphold the principles of parliamentary supremacy.
16:58Mr. Chaudhary, I think that
17:02the educated people like us should also be informed about this.
17:11In so many words, the speaker has said that
17:17the decision that has already been made
17:21should be followed by the Election Commission.
17:26The Supreme Court's decision should not be followed.
17:29Mr. Chaudhary, what will happen next?
17:38First of all, I am surprised that it has been so long
17:45and the letters have already been delivered.
17:47Why has the Election Commission not notified the people
17:52who had given the seats of the PTI to the Noon League,
18:01People's Party, and JUI according to the Free Fair Impartial Election of 8th February?
18:08The Election Commission should have notified them
18:14and should have presented themselves to the speaker
18:17and asked them to forgive them for taking so long.
18:21They should forgive them for the sake of Allah
18:24and should not take any action against them.
18:27In light of the Free Fair Impartial Election,
18:34we are declaring MNA and MPA to those who did not vote.
18:41This is our real job.
18:43This is the election in which letters are coming to us
18:50asking us to send our own team.
18:52No one has a better election than you.
18:54Who is better than us?
18:56What has happened?
18:58I say that they should be hasty
19:01so that their political future is bleak for all time to come.
19:08So that they do not have a place to hide their faces.
19:13What are they doing?
19:15Who has called them fools?
19:17There was only one way.
19:19When Nawaz Sharif lost to Mansehra,
19:24he said, I am out of it.
19:27The election has been defeated.
19:30The people have decided.
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25:12Moving ahead.
25:14Moving ahead.
25:16Bilawal was speaking of a
25:18constitutional court.
25:20Mr Bilawal did not
25:22speak along the lines of
25:24Bilawal, I commend him
25:26and say Comeron should
25:28not have been mentioned.
25:30I would like to know
25:32Yourothery..
25:34Yourothery..
25:36osten
25:38I am sure that the deal that Maulana will bring or that Bilawal is discussing with him,
25:44that deal will be to a large extent agreed upon by both sides.
25:48I am sure that the deal that Maulana will bring or that Bilawal is discussing with him,
25:54that deal will be to a large extent agreed upon by both sides.
25:58I am sure that the deal that Maulana will bring or that Bilawal is discussing with him,
26:04that deal will be to a large extent agreed upon by both sides.
26:08And this agreement will be closer to the government,
26:12the government allies, including the People's Party and other parties.
26:16It is not possible that a completely new agreement comes and the government puts a thumbprint on it.
26:24Look, there is only one deal.
26:26The deal is whether we have to make a constitutional court or not.
26:31The second thing is whether we have to return the mechanism of the judges' hearing to the 18th term or not.
26:38The second thing is whether we have to return the mechanism of the judges' hearing to the 18th term or not.
26:40Huzoor, initially the news was that the appointment of the new Chief Justice should be from a panel,
26:50from the 3rd or 5th.
26:52And a constitutional court has to be made.
26:54It is very important because the number of pending cases is very high.
26:59But when the black envelope opens, there are about 50 cases.
27:05Because of which everyone is worried.
27:07Bilawal Bhutto Zardari Sahib is also worried.
27:09And the JUF people are already worried.
27:15Now what do you think?
27:17Will there be only two cases?
27:19Will there be all of them?
27:21All the cases that have come up so far.
27:23Or do you think that the government has gone backwards?
27:26What is the news?
27:28The news is that Maulana Faisal Rehman will go to Multan.
27:32And he will return after 8-7 days.
27:37Similarly, the Prime Minister is going to the UNGA.
27:41He is not going to the United Nations.
27:43So he will also return on 28th or 29th.
27:46So whatever happens will happen after these days.
27:48This is one thing.
27:50The second thing is whether a constitutional court will be made.
27:52The answer is yes, it will be made.
27:54Will a constitutional court be passed?
27:56The answer is yes, it will be passed.
27:58Why will it be passed?
28:00Because Maulana Faisal Rehman will give a vote.
28:02Why will he give a vote?
28:04Because he is also a signatory of the Charter of Democracy.
28:06Now Maulana Faisal Rehman has a stated position.
28:08Many years ago, he signed a document.
28:10And he expressed his opposition to a constitutional court.
28:14And he did it after a lot of deliberation.
28:16So according to me, I don't see a single percent chance that this constitutional court will not be made.
28:22Yes, some things will definitely be removed from this.
28:24Things will be altered from what is currently circulating.
28:28Some will be removed.
28:30Some will be added.
28:32But there will be a constitutional court.
28:34And I think that Justice Mansoor Ali Shah will be the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
28:40So I think Justice Mansoor Ali Shah will be the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
28:44Will the constitutional court be passed by the Supreme Court?
28:48No.
28:50Both will be parallel courts.
28:52Both will have their own work.
28:54And in the opinion of Justice Mansoor Ali Shah, the Supreme Court will be able to serve the country.
29:00And it will be able to decide the real problems of the people, i.e. criminal and civil cases.
29:06And everyone will get a chance to fix their hereafter.
29:10May Allah give us all a chance to fix our hereafter.
29:14We have to work on it.
29:16And we should definitely try.
29:18Viewers, the question that has arisen regarding the constitutional court is that it should not be person-specific.
29:28Hassan, before you go, please tell us that you have said that the next Chief Justice of Pakistan will be Justice Mansoor Ali Shah.
29:36So, the constitutional court will be handled by the outgoing Chief Justice of Pakistan.
29:46What is your opinion on that?
29:50If you ask me, I would like that the Chief Justice should become the Chief Justice first.
29:58In this regard, nothing has been determined yet.
30:02No, first listen to what Kamran Murtaza Sahib has said.
30:06The Chief Justice has said that it is possible that the constitutional court, or the Supreme Court,
30:12can become the Chief Justice first.
30:14But then you have to differentiate between the ages.
30:18You have to accommodate the person who will be a good person with you.
30:24It can be discussed.
30:26But it can be discussed in such a way that it is not person-specific.
30:30It should not be that someone has to be accommodated and someone should not be accommodated.
30:34Mr. Chaudhary, two courts.
30:36Because today a big convention has been held in Lahore.
30:38The people who are against this amendment, the group of lawyers, are saying that we will not let this happen at all.
30:46Only one Supreme Court will be held in Pakistan.
30:48Mr. Chaudhary, what do you think?
30:50Because you are Senator Siddiqui, you have heard the news of Hassan that this has to happen.
30:55Now there will be no obstruction.
30:57And Maulana Sahib will be on board.
30:59And all this work will be done.
31:01Mr. Chaudhary.
31:03I don't understand.
31:05The place where Maulana is standing, he will not leave anyone on board.
31:10He has given two answers.
31:12And he means it.
31:14And he is working for himself between his politics and the people.
31:18And this is what every politician should do.
31:21Now these people have burnt these boats.
31:24Because what happened to them after 8th February.
31:27They know that they are not happy with us.
31:30As long as this work is going on.
31:33They can do whatever they want.
31:35They don't care about the law.
31:38They used to do the same thing.
31:40From 10th April 2022 till today.
31:44They have not done anything against anyone.
31:47The basis of that is 8th February.
31:50What they are doing now.
31:52You will see to it.
31:53Inshallah.
31:54Inshallah.
31:55In this show, you will say that Mr. Chaudhary, we made a mistake.
31:58That we took them seriously.
32:01Mr. Chaudhary, let's move on to the next story.
32:03But your...
32:04I would like to say one thing, Mr. Khabar Lahariya.
32:06If you don't mind.
32:07Yes, yes, please.
32:08The thing is that the incident of unethical action.
32:11In April 2022.
32:13Qasim Suri finished the vote of no confidence with his own ruling.
32:18The Supreme Court's decision came.
32:20No, no.
32:21What was the unethical act?
32:22Mr. Imran Khan sent a summary to the President.
32:27After that, what was the unethical act?
32:29Pakistan accepted that summary.
32:31So, this unethical act can be done by Pakistan.
32:34Mr. Chaudhary.
32:35The Supreme Court...
32:37The Supreme Court...
32:38What are you saying?
32:39Correct me.
32:40What I am saying.
32:41Mr. Khabar Lahariya, when you speak, my voice will be cut off.
32:43What are you saying?
32:44I am saying that the work that was done.
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32:48And what will you say?
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