La Tota Santillán, conocido animador y figura pública, fue encontrado sin vida en su casa de Castelar. La noticia ha generado gran conmoción e incertidumbre sobre las causas de su muerte. Según informes preliminares, sufría de bipolaridad y depresión profunda. Las autoridades investigan posibles hipótesis, incluyendo suicidio, mientras se descartan signos de violencia externa.
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00:00We have information about him and we are, among many other things,
00:04we are also with Dr. Juan Pablo Merlo, lawyer of the TOTA Santillán,
00:09intimate friend of the TOTA, who will surely be able to tell us a little more
00:14how this man was.
00:15We have interviewed him so many times on our program.
00:18He was not well, really, because the last times we had the opportunity to talk to him,
00:24he was going through a deep depression.
00:27He also had multiple complaints.
00:29His judicial situation was very complicated.
00:33So, well, today we are going to review a little what was the life of this man.
00:38Luis Bremmer, expand the information, come on.
00:40Yes, as you said, Karina, a patient with diagnosed bipolarity.
00:44We are talking about Daniel Carias, known by everyone as the TOTA Santillán.
00:48A disconnection from his group of friends, his family group,
00:51makes him insistently communicate during the last 72 hours.
00:56And the last day, on Sunday, was clearly crucial.
00:59And that's where they alerted the police.
01:00What does the police do?
01:01They arrive at the place and take contact with the situation
01:05and the narrations of Daniel's intimate circle.
01:08Before opening the door, this is usually done,
01:12friends, says the police department,
01:14friends manifest that he was bipolar, that he was very depressed,
01:18beyond testimonies that we later heard during the day,
01:20saying that they saw him well,
01:22that he had financial problems due to the sentence he had received
01:25due to gender violence and that last year he attacked his life.
01:30There is a note that happened moments ago, also from EDM,
01:32where TOTA himself says that he had tried to end his days
01:37in two opportunities.
01:38Those who report that Carias, says the report,
01:41does not present other people's wounds,
01:43this is once the experts come in, right?
01:45Because the hypotheses could be three.
01:47The first, every time a cause of death is found,
01:50is the possibility of a homicide, after an accident,
01:53and finally, the intentionality of the suicide.
01:56What is done first is to enter,
01:58traces are taken to see if there are precisely samples of some other person,
02:02if the door was forced or not,
02:04and later, from where the flame began and where it reached.
02:09The outcome, Karina, is fatal.
02:1190% of the TOTA's body burned.
02:14Let me greet Dr. Juan Pablo Merlo.
02:17Thank you, doctor, for being with us today.
02:19Friend of the TOTA Santillán.
02:23How many causes did the TOTA have open, Dr. Merlo?
02:27Several, several, it had several open causes,
02:30where they had all been unified in one,
02:33and where we had a debate,
02:37and he had a sentence, because there were several,
02:40he had, I don't know if you remember the issue with the accountant,
02:43that they were causes of theft, extortion,
02:48there were threats, with the ex-wife for abuse,
02:54gender violence, also,
02:58well, in itself, there were several other causes of a robbery, of a kiosk.
03:02Did he know that he could go to jail immediately?
03:05Look, his fear was not going to jail,
03:08he was always, and he always told me,
03:10What was his maximum terror, Dr. Merlo?
03:12It is to see time go by, and that his daughters continue to grow,
03:15and not being able to hug them, that was the terror he had.
03:18But hey, he also had a serious complaint
03:20with the issue of his daughters Ventura, too,
03:22you were very close to the TOTA Santillán.
03:24Yes, let's see, I take knowledge of the true state of the TOTA,
03:31there, in that tribute that was given to Alía Cruset,
03:35in a theater in Zona Oeste,
03:38where I attended, and where I see and realize
03:45that the TOTA was not in its frame, in its axis,
03:49to be the driver of a carousel,
03:51which gave, let's say, a really worrying message.
03:54Because, how did you see it? Sorry for the interruption.
03:56I saw it gone, totally gone.
03:58Depressed, depressed.
04:00Gone, gone.
04:01Ah, it was not there, yes, yes, it was not there.
04:03The people who put their faces on you, and you realize that it is not there.
04:05That it is not there, that it is not there.
04:06As it is.
04:07And then, that worried me, I called, I found out,
04:11and then I met the TOTA again, that I knew.
04:16And lately, I periodically, he called me,
04:20or we exchanged figurines, how are you?
04:22He took me out on his radio.
04:23Yes, and lately?
04:25And lately, I did some presentations in a neighborhood theater
04:30for a, let's say, a producer, Romero Romerito,
04:35who had hired the TOTA,
04:37and who did a show called…
04:40¿Se armó la gorda?
04:41No.
04:42Ah, before.
04:43¡Viva la risa!
04:44It was ¡Viva la risa!
04:45So, Romero Romerito sends me a model with, let's say,
04:51the show, but with the TOTA.
04:53Yes.
04:55I did not know that the TOTA had been there.
04:57So, there I realize, and then, knowing the situation of the TOTA,
05:01I call him on the phone and say,
05:03Look, TOTA, this happens to me.
05:05I already said yes, but if this is a place of yours,
05:09I say no.
05:10Sure, and then?
05:11And the TOTA said,
05:12Don't worry, because I got other things,
05:15I asked for your money,
05:16Oh, look.
05:17which was confirmed by Romero Romerito.
05:19I was with him until recently,
05:21and then I started doing that show,
05:23and he called me a couple of times later.
05:26I noticed something in the TOTA,
05:28that was, let's say,
05:31that there were two TOTA Santillán.
05:34There was the one who talked to me,
05:37and who loved me,
05:38and I was reciprocal,
05:40and there was the other,
05:42who was the one who came from hell,
05:45the one who had all the complaints,
05:47all the battles,
05:48in things that many times I did not know.
05:50Look, a few days ago I had a meeting with Fernanda Vives,
05:53who was her partner for a long time.
05:55Yes, Fernanda Vives.
05:57Well, we got together,
05:59because somehow she,
06:01well, they exchange clothes with Antoñito,
06:04she has her children,
06:07and in that conversation we had with her and her husband,
06:10she told me other things
06:12that I did not have clear,
06:14but that obviously happened,
06:16and she, in some place,
06:18at some point,
06:20she distanced herself from me
06:22because I was very close to the figure of the TOTA.
06:24He was looking for me, and I answered him.
06:26And she was a little angry with people.
06:28I remember that at one point
06:30she was so angry with us,
06:32and punctually with me,
06:34for having interviewed the TOTA Santillán,
06:37the same thing happened to me.
06:39Of course, of course, something that I regret a lot,
06:41because, well, things can be separated.
06:43Making a note
06:45does not mean that one disbelieves the complaints,
06:48but well, I understand that the girl got very angry,
06:50and well, things happen.
06:52We have a report, reviewing a little
06:54what was the life of the TOTA Santillán
06:56and this mysterious and tragic death.
06:58Let's see it.
07:02The mysterious death of the TOTA.
07:05Daniel, the TOTA Santillán,
07:07left this plane of things
07:09to go to another.
07:11And with his departure,
07:13a great mystery opens up.
07:15Was it an accident or suicide?
07:17It is not yet known.
07:19The truth is that recently
07:21the presenter
07:23faced serious health problems,
07:25psychotic outbreaks,
07:27economic problems
07:29and a family faced.
07:31Now the justice
07:33is investigating the causes of his unfortunate death.
07:37They found the TOTA Santillán dead.
07:41He took his life.
07:47The news was confirmed by Juan Pablo Merlo,
07:49who is his lawyer.
07:51Of course, and his colleagues and friends
07:53who realized that he did not answer the cell phone,
07:55in the face of that concern,
07:57they notify his lawyer
07:59and that is where they find him dead.
08:02It can be said that it was a suicide,
08:04a fire in the kitchen area
08:06that went out alone
08:08when friends and the police arrived
08:10to break the door of the house.
08:12There was no fire.
08:14It's been a long time
08:16since I've been suffering.
08:18A long time ago.
08:20Instead of building,
08:22one destroys.
08:24It was said that you had hurt yourself
08:26with a cutting element
08:28and that you had tried to commit suicide.
08:31And it's true.
08:35Did you want to punish yourself?
08:39Yes, I wanted to punish myself.
08:41He came with a treatment
08:43against depression.
08:45With death I found myself a lot of times.
08:47Many times.
08:51Many times.
08:53According to a nurse,
08:55I wanted to jump from the third floor
08:57if I didn't see my daughters.
09:00Friendships show that he was bipolar
09:02and he was very depressed
09:04due to financial problems,
09:06the sentence he had received
09:08due to gender.
09:10They just gave him a prison sentence
09:12of five and a half years.
09:14That's how Santillán went to court.
09:16He started knocking on the window,
09:18the door, and he screamed,
09:20he screamed.
09:22We can't stop condemning people's violence.
09:24No, of course not.
09:26And this boy won't heal,
09:29will he?
09:35Will he?
09:47I went through really hard times.
09:53I am honest,
09:55I didn't know what it was like to be bipolar
09:57And in these years, I've suffered it a lot.
09:59And what would you say to your ex-wife, Tota, now for...
10:03Reger.
10:04Yes.
10:05I'm sorry.
10:07It's something that worries her a lot, the issue of...
10:09The issue of the girls is something...
10:12He was desperate because of the argument he had had with Neucha.
10:16I know what intentions the lawyer has
10:18in seeing my father in a state of incoherence
10:24and that we can't relate to him.
10:28I had saved his money.
10:30When he called me, I was at Mar del Plata working
10:32and they told me, Sole, give the money to Coco,
10:34who is going to buy a car.
10:36So when I come back, I can move.
10:38And in the meantime, he's going to drive it on Uber.
10:40Well, that's it.
10:41I meet up with Coco in Diamonte, Florida.
10:44I give him the money.
10:46I send a message to Dani.
10:47I tell him, Dani, I already gave him the money.
10:49The son went, bought the car and told him,
10:50now I'm not going to give it to you, I'm going to keep it.
10:52I try to get people out of his way
10:55that doesn't do them any good.
10:56But I say now, yesterday Luis said something terrible.
10:59Because they do have an end to the profit group.
11:01Did you have to clean him up from people
11:03who were interested in him?
11:08There are people who, for example,
11:11if he is taking medication, he gives him a glass of wine.
11:14You touch the bottom.
11:16All the friends of the champion leave.
11:18The phones don't ring.
11:20You have to reinvent yourself.
11:22He was the one who invented the ro-ro-ro-ro-ro-ro-ro-rodrigo.
11:27Rodrigo loved the potro.
11:29We are going to present the number one, the greatest,
11:34with you, ro-ro-ro-ro-ro-ro-ro-ro-ro-ro-ro-rodrigo.
11:46Rodrigo Carasco.
11:56The album is going to be out soon.
12:00On the 7th.
12:01On the 7th, together with the magazine Paseo Tropical.
12:04That's right.
12:05How was everything lately?
12:07You bragged that you could finish this outcome.
12:09Everything was fine.
12:11Everything was always motivated,
12:13always with a lot of desire to project.
12:15Eight days before, he had done a show.
12:19He was always happy.
12:21He had his days, like anyone else.
12:24But a person who is depressed does not have the energy he had.
12:28I want to be fine.
12:29I want to be fine to work.
12:31One has to value life.
12:32And I have to value life.
12:34Where many people want to live,
12:36I can't want to take my life.
12:42He talked to us so many times.
12:44He had so many moments of success and much glory.
12:47And finally he was found with 90% of his body charred.
12:53Dr. Merlo, what do you know about it?
12:56Look, today the cause ...
12:58We leave all the hypotheses open.
13:01Because with the prosecutor who was working last night too.
13:05And the experts.
13:07I don't know.
13:08The first hypothesis that we handle would be
13:12that there was an electrical problem in the house.
13:16He had complained to the owner.
13:20And it could be that the current has gone to plug something.
13:24And the current ...
13:26And why the fuel, doctor?
13:28The fuel had alcohol.
13:29There is a supposed tinner bottle.
13:31Of course.
13:32I'm honest.
13:33He also had fine alcohol there.
13:35Because the wounds were cleaned sometimes.
13:37Let's remember that from Monday to Friday he was with a therapeutic assistant.
13:40But he cleaned himself in the same place.
13:44There is also talk of some matches around the body.
13:47Yes, yes.
13:48They are things that you will find in a kitchen.
13:50Matches, lighters.
13:52That's why I tell you, everything is taken and complemented.
13:54And no hypothesis is removed.
13:56But when we see a body that there ...
13:59We arrived and there was no light.
14:01That caught our attention.
14:02Ah, a cut, of course.
14:03Air conditioning up.
14:05He was down and the air was up.
14:07Yes, but there is something that we are losing sight of.
14:10And that is precisely the note that was made.
14:13A note made by Alatarde.
14:15Where in La Tota, at a certain moment he speaks of a suicide attempt.
14:21Yes, yes.
14:22I said it here and they denied it to me.
14:24And I participated in that denial because it seemed to me that I could record
14:29maybe the mood of La Tota.
14:31That it had been his self-flagellation with a knife to Tramontina.
14:35Do you remember that he had cut himself?
14:37Yes.
14:38Well, he told me that.
14:40He told me this, this, this, this.
14:42And I told him that it was a barbarity.
14:44But in the air.
14:45He said, and I want you to say it.
14:47When I say it, many people from his family, from his environment,
14:50He told me, Luis, please, don't tell me about the knife.
14:54He wanted to take his life on several occasions.
14:57So we are still talking more than two years back.
15:01There is something that Dr. Merlo, as well as Karen, the friend of La Tota,
15:04they say, we saw it well.
15:05I don't know what happened, but we saw it well.
15:07When bipolarity is diagnosed,
15:09there are mania pictures combined with depression.
15:12Mania people have guiding ideas.
15:14This morning I spoke with psychiatric specialists
15:16who told me, even a guiding idea of an obsession.
15:20Looking for something, doing something permanently,
15:22which does not imply that it is a psychosis.
15:24But it is a serious picture.
15:25Did someone control La Tota to take the pills, doctor?
15:28Yes, yes, his therapeutic assistant.
15:30What happens is that we also agree that he had a social work,
15:34that he had a certain coverage.
15:36There are social works that cover him eight hours a day,
15:39and he had four.
15:41Now, doctor, in this, do not rule out any hypothesis.
15:44They all go for the issue of suicide,
15:45which is what came out first,
15:47for how they found the place.
15:49The issue of murder, are they leaving it aside?
15:52No.
15:53And I ask this because he, more than once,
15:55I had a lot of closeness with him at some point,
15:57that we coincide with labor issues.
15:59He said he was threatened,
16:01he spoke of different heavy people who were threatening him.
16:06It was said that he was economically bad,
16:09and of economic debts.
16:12Is this ruled out?
16:14Look, no, we do not rule out anything.
16:16It seems to me, today, on the part of us,
16:19of the whole environment,
16:21I think the first hypothesis is that of the accident,
16:24the house, and the claim that he was making,
16:27that there were serious problems in the installation of the house.
16:31Were there claims?
16:32Yes, there were claims.
16:33In writing?
16:34In writing.
16:35That's why I gave him the phone,
16:37he has it in the Public Prosecutor's Office,
16:39and I gave him the key last night,
16:42so that they could unlock it.
16:44And that the messages and claims that he was making are fixed.
16:48And also what I noticed,
16:50is what you were saying too,
16:51not to rule out anything,
16:52if there was some kind of threat,
16:54or a charge in that sense,
16:56because what happens?
16:57When you want to charge a person,
16:59or, hey, pay me what I owe you, or I'll kill you,
17:02that in a person who has that bipolarity,
17:04it can automatically arise,
17:06that he is attentive about his life.
17:08A little while ago, I was talking to Luis Lobo,
17:10he is a nurse,
17:12he does not present himself as a therapeutic companion,
17:14but a friend of the TOTA,
17:16a nurse who accompanied him at night,
17:18when he was going to work,
17:19because the TOTA participated in events,
17:21and he was one of the first people to enter the home.
17:25I was struck by the story,
17:27that he says, the door was closed,
17:29and he did not see the key,
17:31let's say, the key was not on the lock,
17:33he did not find it, but the house was closed inside.
17:37Is there any chance, do you rule out,
17:39that there has been a third person,
17:41who has participated in this situation,
17:44and then withdrew with the key?
17:46It is the third hypothesis that we have also been handling,
17:50the second is that, and the third,
17:52that there is a third person.
17:54But if you look there,
17:56in that part,
17:58that they are focusing the cables and all that,
18:00it seems to me that something very clumsy is seen
18:02in the property with the issue of electricity,
18:05but no hypothesis is ruled out.
18:07They are asking for the cameras now,
18:09from all around.
18:11Juan Pablo, in the autopsy,
18:14at least the preliminary report,
18:17which is becoming known,
18:19periodically,
18:21talks about 90% of the body burned,
18:23without traces of defense.
18:25A person who is burning,
18:29somehow tries to defend himself,
18:31and you do not find him in the chair, lying, still.
18:35Now, what Dr. Merlos was saying,
18:37I had not heard it,
18:39the hypothesis of a third person,
18:41I had not heard it.
18:43Everything, when there is a fact of this nature,
18:45it is more,
18:47surely we are going to send to investigate,
18:49beyond the official inquiries,
18:51to see if they coincide with the inquiries
18:53that they did.
18:55But when we arrived,
18:57and we see that we have to ask the neighbor in front,
18:59for the experts,
19:01in this case,
19:03to have the property lit,
19:05it caught our attention.
19:07But everything was already burned.
19:09You enter a burned house,
19:11that surely some cable will have burned.
19:13A situation that was also found,
19:15in the same situation as the neurologist,
19:17who also flew charred.
19:19As without signs of ...
19:21reaction.
19:23Of course, without reaction,
19:25that's what catches my attention.
19:27Because he was a victim of having consumed something
19:29that had kept him asleep.
19:31Did he take drugs to sleep?
19:33He could not take,
19:35more than the medication they were giving him,
19:37he could not take a glass of alcohol,
19:39because the cocktail is terrible,
19:41the medication he has is a very strong medication,
19:43there is even an injection that is placed
19:45once a month,
19:47if he mixes that with alcohol,
19:49is the cocktail or drugs ...
19:51What the doctor says,
19:53is exactly what I saw on the day of the tribute to Lía.
19:55I told him,
19:57three glasses of champagne.
19:59In fact, I told him,
20:01boys, if it doesn't work for you,
20:03more champagne, because you are drinking alcohol.
20:05I think he is not in a condition to drink,
20:07without knowing.
20:09He was very close to the tota.
20:11Everyone repeats,
20:13he was taking medication,
20:15he saw it, phenomenon.
20:17None gives you a clue
20:19that he could have
20:21made the decision to take
20:23his life, which I say
20:25for knowledge of the cause.
20:27I have had a relative who made that decision.
20:29And one receives warnings.
20:31However, everyone says no.
20:33So, at some point I think,
20:35as Ventura, I say,
20:37are they covering up a little?
20:39Or is there something they didn't want to accept?
20:41Diego, you omitted the notes
20:43that the tota gives,
20:45and the note that the doctor gave,
20:47and what the daughter tells.
20:49The daughter says that
20:51he couldn't, as the doctor says,
20:53he had to take his medication,
20:55he couldn't drink alcohol.
20:57And you went to any event,
20:59and you saw that champagne was being sent.
21:01But Luis, I stop at the hypothesis of the accident.
21:03If I take a medication, for example,
21:05and I apologize to the family of the priest,
21:07he took a sleeping pill,
21:09the house caught fire,
21:11and she couldn't react.
21:13Could something similar have happened to him?
21:15No. Here, Dani, what he had,
21:17if he took a glass of alcohol,
21:19this disease, what it generates is an addiction.
21:21He can't stop drinking.
21:23And the same with drugs, and the same with gambling.
21:25He goes to a casino, plays,
21:27and it is already an addiction that is transformed
21:29by this disease that he maintains.
21:31So, that's why he took great care of him.
21:33And this happened on the weekend
21:35that he didn't have therapeutic accompaniment.
21:37He didn't even have a job.
21:39On Sunday night, yes.
21:41Do you know what they tell me
21:43that it was the previous weekend of work?
21:45No, no. He sent me a video just the day before
21:47that he was that night in Moreno.
21:49Moreno.
21:51He sent it to me.
21:53He says, look, Pablo, today I'm in San Miguel,
21:55in the police station.
21:57Well, he tells me that he was going to work
21:59doing some presentations.
22:01And nothing.
22:03After that, that same night,
22:05that's what happened that night.
22:07And I understand that he had, let's say,
22:09a space to try to collect
22:11when he didn't have work
22:13on stage,
22:15that he had like a kind of
22:17walking occupation where he sold products
22:19that left him a profit
22:21in the middle of the sale.
22:23What does Marlon say?
22:25He was looking for it.
22:27He was doing group presentations.
22:29Let's remember that
22:31Tota had to work since he was very young
22:33and he is a person who knows
22:35what the street is and he was not going to die of hunger.
22:37The point is that what he had to do
22:39he did it.
22:41Now he was doing a lot of presentations.
22:43The permanent job was
22:45in the municipality of Pozos.
22:47Yes, but it hurt him a lot.
22:49If you just renewed a municipality,
22:51he had a time of glory,
22:53beyond the television and Rodrigo
22:55and all that, which was when we met him,
22:57where he had a lot of work with the mayor
22:59of Conurbano all the time,
23:01where he did a lot of solidarity things,
23:03on the one hand, and he raised a lot of money too.
23:05And those friends of the champion
23:07disappeared.
23:09They didn't answer the phone anymore.
23:11And he said it in the report we did.
23:13The phone doesn't ring and the champion's friends disappear.
23:15But he wasn't in his worst moment.
23:17At least he wasn't in his worst moment
23:19because he had the bubble.
23:21He was in treatment.
23:23When he was arrested on the street,
23:25in 2017,
23:27in Vicente López, he stole a gift shop
23:29and they put him up there,
23:31which was also controversial,
23:33on top of a police car,
23:35not a police car, and they took him
23:37until they arrested him.
23:39There were already alerts,
23:41although I understand, doctor, that you are not a psychologist,
23:43nor are we, and we cannot see indicators
23:45of a bipolar disorder to know when it will be bad.
23:47But he was in a bad state.
23:49And that was in a psychotic attack
23:51that he was having at that time.
23:53To be honest,
23:55I was on the street with him,
23:57we were in Santa Fe, here in Buenos Aires,
23:59and to make a picture,
24:01everyone was taking pictures,
24:03everyone was hugging him.
24:05He was not afraid of jail.
24:07He was never afraid.
24:09And if he had to go to jail, he would go to jail.
24:11His great fear was not being able to see his daughters again.
24:13He always told me that.
24:15And if he fell, it could have been because of that.
24:17Because he called me three weeks ago crying,
24:19that he wanted to see them, that he missed them.
24:21Doctor, you give me time to get into an antipathic part,
24:23plus the day of his death,
24:25hours later.
24:27There is a dark part of the TOTA that has to do with that.
24:29He extends his role as a father
24:31with the violence
24:33that he had exercised with the mother
24:35of his two little daughters.
24:37He was sentenced, I say this because it is not an elucubration,
24:39a perception that we have.
24:41He was sentenced by justice.
24:43Therefore, he also speaks of that part of the TOTA.
24:45I always, what I say,
24:47the Argentine society has to understand
24:49that when a person is condemned
24:51and has a sentence in the first instance,
24:53there are three people,
24:55three men who are judging you
24:57and who can understand it in a way or not.
24:59Remember the case of Carrascosa,
25:01he killed her and then it turns out that he did not kill her.
25:03So those people are wrong
25:05and today you are going to get tired
25:07of seeing acts of gender violence and everyone
25:09already has a complaint, is guilty.
25:11No, it's not like that.
25:13No, but a complaint is not a sentence, doctor.
25:15It has a sentence in the first instance for three people.
25:17For example, Carrascosa was seven years in prison.
25:19Accused of killing the woman.
25:21And then ...
25:23Doctor, all right, but they are not three friends
25:25who get together at a coffee table.
25:27They have to take evidence.
25:29I understand, but what I say is that he is not
25:31declared guilty until the sentence is not firm.
25:33So we are badly used in Argentine society
25:35that we already declare him guilty
25:37when he has an imputation.
25:39Doctor, I understand your role as a friend of the TOTA.
25:41Now, if we go to the firm sentence
25:43and we want to access the court, 25 years have passed.
25:45We would have to shut our mouths with any sentence.
25:47No, no, no.
25:49In the chamber we had appealed.
25:51And briefly, I calculate that in a short time
25:53we were going to have a resolution.
25:55What happens is that we always say
25:57a person condemning someone who knows what he is doing.
25:59One thing, I'm going to steal this glass.
26:01And another thing is that I don't know I'm going to steal this glass.
26:03And I do it because I know I have it.
26:05It's contradictory what you're saying, Juan Pablo.
26:07It's contradictory.
26:09One thing is that he didn't do it.
26:11And another thing is to say, he did it,
26:13but he didn't do it.
26:15First you have to check.
26:17Because when you saw that he stole the kiosk there,
26:19which is filmed.
26:21Write it down to Macri, he said.
26:23Because in his head, he thinks.
26:25And you think he's a normal person.
26:27And then you have to intern him.
26:29Or before you have to intern him in a psychiatric hospital.
26:31What happens is that friends said,
26:33he was fine.
26:35I saw him well.
26:37He worked.
26:39No, no, no.
26:41We are getting into a part
26:43where we are trapped.