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00:00Sometimes when I go out, people ask me if I'm an internet celebrity.
00:02Don't say I'm an internet celebrity, please.
00:04Huh? Is there such a thing?
00:06No, don't say it. I'm a content creator.
00:09Don't say I'm an internet celebrity.
00:10What a terrible situation.
00:11I feel like I'm the last one.
00:15Yes, I feel like I'm the last one.
00:17Then you slowly see your wife and child
00:20getting worse and worse in front of you.
00:26Life is a different philosophy of life.
00:29Hello everyone, I'm Li Qiang.
00:30When it comes to tattooing,
00:31especially in the past,
00:33it was definitely a bad thing.
00:36Okay?
00:37Although this era has changed the way of thinking,
00:40but if it were a girl,
00:43wouldn't there be some concerns
00:46about tattooing on the eyes?
00:48Our guest today is Hishiko.
00:50Hello everyone, I'm Hishiko.
00:54What do you think of your tattoo?
00:58Wow, it can be divided into three levels.
01:00If you don't know me very well,
01:03you will think that
01:04this is a YouTuber with a lot of tattoos.
01:07If you are my fan,
01:09you will think that
01:10this is a YouTuber who loves to cry.
01:14And if you are a tattoo artist,
01:16you will think that this is a YouTuber with a lot of tattoos.
01:29At least it's not a bad girl.
01:31Yes, I think so.
01:34Really?
01:34Actually, when you were doing tattooing,
01:37you didn't really think about how others would see you.
01:40Actually, how should I put it?
01:42We still have a human nature
01:46and a concern.
01:47We are still worried that
01:49I'm doing what I like.
01:52I have my profession.
01:54But how do others see me?
01:57Especially those you care about.
02:00But my husband is also a tattoo artist.
02:04He is also a tattoo teacher.
02:06So when he taught us in the first class,
02:09he said about the professional ethics of tattooing
02:14and some of our mindsets.
02:17He said that since you have decided to enter the tattoo industry,
02:22since you want to put the tattoo on your body,
02:25you have to accept
02:27some different voices from the public.
02:31So how do we deal with that?
02:33In the first class,
02:34we adjusted our mindsets.
02:37We did our best.
02:39And we hope that everyone can change their views on tattoos.
02:43So you know,
02:44there is a little secret that we didn't tell everyone.
02:47There were a lot of movie invitations during this time.
02:51But we all rejected them.
02:53Because the characters in the script
02:56wanted us to play negative characters.
03:00Because you don't have to find a tattoo artist to get a tattoo.
03:04You know?
03:04You already have this image on your body.
03:08But because of the story of the characters,
03:11we felt that
03:13we didn't want to bring everyone back to the era of Gu Huo Zai.
03:17You also have a mission
03:18to correct people's impression of tattoos and culture.
03:22That's right. That's the most important thing.
03:24So after that,
03:25you thought that
03:25I've already done enough acting.
03:27I'll change my career.
03:28I don't want to be an actress.
03:29I want to be a tattoo artist.
03:31It's not that simple.
03:33Actually, I thought I would act until I'm old.
03:35I really love acting.
03:38But it's because
03:40I love acting too much.
03:42I put a lot of effort into the character.
03:45But instead, because I put too much effort into the character,
03:48I left the showbiz.
03:50Because I was facing the problem of leaving the showbiz.
03:54During the three years of the showbiz,
03:58I kept having this problem.
03:59Until the last show,
04:00I really couldn't do anything about it.
04:02It even affected my life.
04:05When I was emotional,
04:05I felt that
04:07I couldn't continue acting.
04:09Then why did you put this tattoo on your forehead?
04:12This is actually to commemorate
04:14the character that I couldn't bear to leave.
04:18His name is Wan Yue.
04:19If you look closely,
04:20it's actually a transformation of the character's name.
04:23That's right.
04:24Between Yue and Yue,
04:26there are two Yue characters.
04:27If you put them together, what character would it be?
04:29Heng.
04:30Yes.
04:31Because I always treat my character
04:32as my best friend.
04:35This is also a way for me to say goodbye to them.
04:41Why couldn't I leave the showbiz?
04:43Maybe if I say it like this,
04:44it will be easier for everyone to understand.
04:46Every time we film a drama,
04:48we spend three months on it.
04:49It's a series.
04:50Yes.
04:51He's your best friend.
04:52But every three months,
04:53you have to lose a friend.
04:58Can you accept that?
05:00At that time,
05:01I didn't have a lot of experience.
05:03So I wasn't very good at
05:06dealing with separation.
05:07So every time you change your identity,
05:10you have to reach the so-called
05:12bottleneck stage
05:14before you can leave the showbiz.
05:17For example, the actor we just talked about.
05:18Because I love him so much,
05:19I don't want to ruin his life.
05:21I choose to end it at the best time
05:24and move forward.
05:25You can say that.
05:27I think I decided to leave the showbiz
05:30because I really don't want to
05:32bear the pain of
05:33being separated again and again.
05:36Why did I come into contact with tattoo?
05:38It's because I've loved drawing since I was young.
05:41I think tattoo art is beautiful.
05:44Why? Because it can be
05:47eternally preserved on you
05:49until you die.
05:52For me, it's an eternity.
05:54It's like a fairy tale.
05:58So I thought,
05:59wow, I can leave my work
06:00on someone forever
06:02to accompany him
06:03through every time.
06:05So when I left the showbiz,
06:07I wanted to find back
06:10what I like.
06:11So I learned tattoo.
06:13I've been tattooing for 8 years.
06:17You started as an actress,
06:20a YouTuber,
06:21a tattoo artist,
06:23and later on,
06:25you became a staff member,
06:26and a soulmate.
06:28Do you have a plan
06:30for your future?
06:31No.
06:32I never thought about it.
06:34Sometimes,
06:35I wonder why I have so many
06:38twists in my life.
06:40Because...
06:40You have twists?
06:41Yes.
06:42Because every time I have twists,
06:44I have to face many problems.
06:47Is it easy for me
06:49to let go of acting?
06:50No.
06:50Because it's something I love.
06:53So when I started tattooing,
06:55it's something I've never thought about.
06:58It's something I have to face
07:00on my own.
07:02From tattooing,
07:04to becoming a YouTuber,
07:05it's the same.
07:06From YouTuber,
07:07to becoming a staff member,
07:11it's even harder.
07:12So,
07:13I never thought
07:16I would have to experience
07:17so many twists.
07:19I hope this is my last twist.
07:21I don't want to have more twists.
07:22It's really hard every time.
07:24But of course,
07:25when you look back,
07:28wow,
07:29this life seems
07:30quite exciting.
07:31Yes.
07:32You have a lot of experiences.
07:35Using some painful words.
07:38Yes.
07:39Painful and happy.
07:40Is that okay?
07:41Okay.
07:42Okay.
07:44It's okay.
07:45Because I know,
07:46especially since last year,
07:49when you made a connection with God,
07:52many people said
07:54that Heshiko
07:56was a good actor.
07:58His acting was very good.
07:59He acted very well.
08:00In fact,
08:00you also experienced
08:02a long period of pain.
08:04You're right.
08:05I really
08:07couldn't wash it away.
08:08Because I was an actress
08:11more than 10 years ago.
08:12I was very invested.
08:13Then I became a YouTuber,
08:15a so-called internet celebrity.
08:17As you all know,
08:18the term internet celebrity
08:19in Malaysia,
08:20it's really...
08:22It's not very positive.
08:23It's just a word play.
08:25Yes.
08:25Sometimes when I go out,
08:26people say,
08:27aren't you that internet celebrity?
08:28Don't say I'm an internet celebrity.
08:29Please.
08:30Is there such a thing?
08:31I say, don't say it.
08:32I'm a content creator.
08:34Don't say I'm an internet celebrity.
08:36Yes.
08:36Because of this identity,
08:38I suddenly
08:39jumped to the place of this identity.
08:41It was a sacred hall.
08:43Wow.
08:43I really suffered a lot of public opinion.
08:46People think you're catching the flow.
08:48Yes.
08:48You want to get attention.
08:50You want to be famous.
08:51Ah, can't you do it anymore?
08:54Isn't your flow bad?
08:56You have to find new topics now.
08:57Isn't it all the same in the future?
09:00But more than that,
09:01in fact, in these 10 years,
09:04I have suffered a lot
09:05of physical pain.
09:08Then why did I
09:09become a promotion now?
09:11In fact, it's really a little bit,
09:13like you said,
09:14a little bit of fate.
09:17It's really amazing.
09:18Why is my YouTube
09:20always shooting about life?
09:24And then there are topics that I want to talk about.
09:25Like the issue of sex minorities before.
09:29This really took
09:31about 50 episodes,
09:32two years.
09:34And then there's always something in between.
09:36Things in life.
09:38Because of the discomfort of the body for 10 years,
09:40I don't want to continue taking medicine
09:42and seeing a doctor.
09:43Then I thought,
09:44is there any other way
09:46to make me feel better?
09:48Then I started exploring the body and mind.
09:51For example, like meditation,
09:53like some Songbo,
09:55the level of healing.
09:56Then I walked, walked, walked.
09:59A lot of wonderful things
10:00happened slowly.
10:02Then I also found some answers.
10:06Then it evolved into
10:08this part of the current promotion.
10:11It's also amazing.
10:12It's really possible that
10:14after talking more with professionals
10:16or getting into more detail,
10:18after some solutions,
10:19the body became better.
10:21So you decided to say,
10:23okay, I can also serve the crowd.
10:25Yes, this part,
10:26I also want to remind everyone here.
10:29I still hope
10:30everyone has a discomfort in the body.
10:31You must find a doctor first.
10:33This is absolute.
10:34Because we are human after all.
10:36We have this human body.
10:38We must have
10:39physical treatment.
10:41Then our mental level is also very important.
10:43We can explore inwardly.
10:45This part,
10:46I'm not saying which religion you want to find help from.
10:49This is not.
10:51You have to explore your inner self first.
10:53Why do I have this situation?
10:56Do I need to improve?
10:58Where do I need to heal?
10:59Then after you find this part,
11:01of course, if you have your faith,
11:04you can also seek help from your faith.
11:07But don't be superstitious.
11:08This is very important.
11:09Yes.
11:10Yes, this is also what I have been reminding myself.
11:12Yes.
11:12We are now staff.
11:14I know that
11:16there are some things in the world
11:17that we have not yet been scientifically verified.
11:20But we still have to keep our focus at all times.
11:25We still have to land.
11:27This is very important.
11:28So this is also a lesson that I want to share with everyone.
11:32The discomfort in the body has been solved.
11:34But the psychological discomfort,
11:36I would like to ask Hichco to share.
11:38There must be a lot of people watching the show.
11:41They are all talking about catching traffic.
11:43So they do a lot of different content.
11:44How did you get through the more difficult process?
11:47My image to others
11:49may have a lot of tattoos.
11:52At first, it is not so easy
11:55to have a good impression of everyone.
11:58Yes, it is difficult to change this.
12:00Secondly,
12:02this person is an internet celebrity.
12:05So you have to catch the traffic.
12:08A lot of things
12:09are that I can't explain.
12:13I can't tell everyone
12:15that I have tried.
12:17I really tried.
12:18I wrote all my experiences.
12:21I wrote an article of thousands of words.
12:24I wrote it well.
12:26I am praying for a group of people who are willing to understand.
12:30But I really found that
12:32in society,
12:34they really won't
12:35because you wrote so long,
12:37they don't even want to see it.
12:39They may just look at a picture, a title.
12:41Title party.
12:42Wow, this person,
12:43you see this girl has so many tattoos,
12:46and is an internet celebrity.
12:47What? Catching traffic?
12:49What?
12:49Of course, it is to catch the traffic.
12:52It is to cheat money,
12:54cheat color.
12:55So I don't know what color I want to change.
12:57And in terms of money,
12:59to be honest,
13:00I think my current job,
13:02I am very satisfied.
13:03If I work in a temple,
13:05there is no charge.
13:07It's free.
13:08Usually, they only charge a few dollars.
13:11But those few dollars are for the temple.
13:12We are really
13:13serving the invisible
13:16spirits.
13:18So I don't know
13:19I spent so much time,
13:21I paid so much effort
13:23to earn those few dollars.
13:25For what?
13:26I don't understand.
13:27What do they mean by cheating money?
13:29Yes.
13:29So you are actually
13:31satisfied with your spirit.
13:33So you think you can heal.
13:34Even if you are misunderstood,
13:36you think you can overcome it.
13:38Okay.
13:38This part of being satisfied with my spirit,
13:40I think I am still learning.
13:42This part of improving my spirit.
13:44Because I am still facing a lot of
13:47emotions that need to be adjusted.
13:49But
13:51why am I willing to
13:53serve the invisible spirits?
13:55Because for the past 10 years,
13:56I have been suffering a lot.
13:58I am trying to find a way to solve it.
14:01This is a special physical condition
14:04that I have.
14:05So
14:07when I decided to take this step,
14:10they
14:12gave me back my health.
14:14This is what I have been praying for
14:16for the past 10 years.
14:18How bad was your situation in the past?
14:20You couldn't sleep, you couldn't eat.
14:21It wasn't that simple.
14:23I couldn't even
14:25open my eyes
14:27and have a good meal with my family.
14:29I couldn't do anything.
14:35Calm down.
14:37The past 10 years
14:39are really amazing.
14:42After the sun went down,
14:44I understood that
14:46I didn't think about learning.
14:48I thought I must be sick.
14:51When the sun went down,
14:54I felt like I had no energy left.
14:56I felt like I was going to collapse.
14:58I couldn't even open my eyes.
14:59It was so bad that I couldn't breathe.
15:02What happened after I couldn't breathe?
15:04At first, I didn't have oxygen supply.
15:07I felt like I was going to faint.
15:09My hands started shaking.
15:11My whole body was shaking.
15:12Then you slowly looked at
15:15your husband and child
15:16getting more and more blurry in front of you.
15:20Every time I had a seizure,
15:21I felt like
15:24it was the last moment.
15:25I felt like I was looking at them for the last time.
15:29Every day, I felt like
15:30I was experiencing death.
15:33Indeed,
15:35I experienced death once
15:37in the beginning.
15:39I was in shock for about 3 minutes.
15:43My husband was trying to save me.
15:47Then I woke up.
15:48When I woke up,
15:49my legs were stiff.
15:52My face was pale and purple.
15:55My hands were like this.
15:58At that time, I didn't know what happened to me.
16:00After that, I went for a physical examination.
16:02I did all the brain scans.
16:04My heart was fine.
16:06Then I thought,
16:07I must be sick here.
16:09Does it look like I have a disease?
16:11Finally, I inferred that
16:14the doctor said
16:15I might have a panic attack.
16:19But I didn't know what a panic attack was.
16:21Actually, I was quite easy-going.
16:24I was an open-minded person.
16:26I didn't know why.
16:27Since I was given a medical term,
16:32I took it as an anxiety disorder
16:35or a panic attack.
16:37For the past 10 years,
16:38I've been treating it like this.
16:40When I took medicine and went to the doctor,
16:43there was a little relief.
16:46But it didn't help much.
16:49That's why I said
16:51why I took it slow
16:53and took it to my heart.
16:55I even took it to my religion.
16:58When I took it to my religion,
16:59if you follow my show,
17:01you'll know that I'm not just a Taoist.
17:03My life now is a Taoist life.
17:04Not only Taoism,
17:05but also Christianity,
17:07Catholicism,
17:08and Buddhism.
17:09Because I'm looking for some answers.
17:14I'm also looking for some life-threatening questions.
17:20It's fortunate that you have your family
17:22or your husband by your side.
17:23Yes.
17:24They're willing to be with you.
17:25Yes, but this is something
17:27only my husband and children know.
17:30I didn't dare to tell my family
17:32for the past 10 years.
17:34I'm an only child.
17:35If my daughter is experiencing
17:37a state of death every day,
17:39how can I accept it?
17:41I can't sleep at all.
17:44I have to take sleeping pills.
17:46Even if I accidentally fall asleep,
17:49I'll wake up.
17:50When I wake up,
17:52I'll have a heart attack again.
17:53I'll have panic attacks,
17:54difficulty breathing,
17:55and my heart will explode.
17:57Then I'll start to faint
17:59again and again.
18:01So I've been in the hospital
18:02for a while.
18:04Usually at night.
18:06Then I started to get out of my body
18:08and realized that
18:09I seem to be working.
18:13I can't sleep at all.
18:15Then for some reason,
18:16some teachers and spiritual leaders
18:19started to invite children
18:22from different sects
18:23and different time periods
18:24to say that
18:25actually,
18:27from their perspective,
18:28they saw that
18:29my spirit was already there.
18:32They were actually...
18:33You have to fulfill your mission.
18:34Yes.
18:34They weren't torturing me.
18:36They might just be guiding me.
18:38Because when you're in the most painful moment,
18:41when you face some problems,
18:42you will seek help.
18:45I seek medical help.
18:47But when it comes to spiritual torture,
18:50you will start to seek
18:51spiritual help.
18:54Slowly, slowly,
18:54it leads to this point.
18:56So that's why I said
18:57why I kept filming,
18:58suddenly,
18:59from life,
19:01sexual minorities,
19:02spiritual leaders,
19:03to staff.
19:05As a result, when I got to this point,
19:07it seems that some of these
19:07physical problems
19:09have a special reason.
19:11A reason that can't be explained.
19:13Indeed,
19:14they gave me back
19:15this healthy body.
19:17And when I see
19:18someone who really needs help,
19:20I will feel empathy.
19:22I know what you've been through.
19:24I understand your pain.
19:26That's why
19:27I'm willing to
19:29continue to serve them.
19:31So,
19:32you just mentioned
19:33how I
19:34adjusted my
19:36public opinion.
19:38You know, public opinion
19:39is not that simple.
19:40It's not that
19:41a few people
19:42mocked you.
19:44At that time, it was so chaotic
19:45that it was
19:46even on the news.
19:48And then,
19:50many people scolded me,
19:51even
19:53cursed my whole family.
19:54I was thinking,
19:55what did I do?
19:57Are you serious?
19:59I don't know what I did.
20:00Why should I be
20:02cursed?
20:03Cursed by my whole family?
20:05It's a very bad use of the word.
20:06It's a terrible use of the word.
20:08I was thinking,
20:08what did I deceive?
20:10Did I deceive money,
20:11or did I deceive something else?
20:13I don't know.
20:15It was so sad.
20:18But,
20:18during that time,
20:21the most severe storm
20:22lasted for 3 to 4 months.
20:25Every day,
20:27I had a period of
20:28mental breakdown.
20:30I closed myself off.
20:31How could I stand up?
20:32I did a lot of thinking
20:34and reflection.
20:38For example,
20:39if
20:41I'm going to
20:42serve the gods
20:45and help people,
20:46if the person
20:47who came to me
20:49was the one
20:51who kept scolding me
20:52and slandering me,
20:54would I still be willing to help him?
20:57I reflected on a lot of such questions.
21:00In the end,
21:01I don't know why,
21:03but I suddenly realized that
21:04when I read these messages,
21:06in the whole process,
21:08I didn't resent him at all.
21:10I wasn't angry.
21:11This was very strange to me.
21:12I thought to myself,
21:13why did I do that?
21:15Then I realized that
21:17there was a kind of
21:20power supporting me.
21:22They made me
21:23look at these
21:25sour messages from a different perspective.
21:27Maybe
21:28he had really experienced
21:31some harm from the gods.
21:34It threatened his family
21:35and even affected his life.
21:39When you look at things like this,
21:40you will think,
21:41yes, they will scold me like this.
21:44It's understandable.
21:46If I were him,
21:47and I saw such a person appear,
21:49I would also be very angry.
21:50You're here again.
21:52This kind of person is here again.
21:54So when you look at
21:56human nature from a different perspective,
21:59you will have more forgiveness.
22:02Forgiveness from others,
22:03I also forgave myself.
22:06In the end, I stood up and supported him.
22:08In addition to this kind of
22:10inexplicable,
22:11I don't know where it came from,
22:12this kind of mercy from the gods.
22:15Another thing is the power of gratitude.
22:19Fortunately, I still have my family by my side.
22:22Because my husband and children
22:23have always been watching me.
22:25What is the situation like every day?
22:28Now I'm fine.
22:30Then there seems to be
22:33a meaningful thing to do in the future.
22:38Okay, they support me.
22:39Then I also thank my audience friends.
22:42They have been watching me until now.
22:44They know who I am.
22:46So this kind of power of gratitude
22:48is getting bigger and bigger.
22:49That's why I came out of this haze.
22:52So your life
22:54will be dedicated to the body, mind and spirit.
22:57Yes.
22:58Will you continue to be a bodyguard?
23:02You can say that.
23:03Because after all, this is what I realized.
23:05I may come here in this life.
23:08I don't want to say it's great.
23:10It may be a topic for me.
23:11I may have a topic like this
23:13that needs to help me.
23:15Other than others, it also helps me.
23:17To be honest,
23:19I am not a qualified bodyguard yet.
23:22Because I am not using
23:24the bodyguard as a way out in the future.
23:28If I am a bodyguard,
23:30I will invite the spirit.
23:31Then let the spirit do it.
23:33But now,
23:34I have received the instruction
23:36that I need to practice well
23:38and become a spiritual communicator.
23:41As a communicator,
23:42I need to practice my mind.
23:44I think
23:46if a person who has never practiced
23:47suddenly becomes like this,
23:48I don't seem to suddenly
23:50have the power of God.
23:52It's not a special ability.
23:54You have a lot of time
23:56to study.
23:57For example, I need to study meditation every day.
24:00I need to calm my mind.
24:02I also need to paint.
24:04I also need to learn spells.
24:05I also need to read a lot of books.
24:07Because it's not just a Taoist system.
24:09I also hope to integrate
24:11more aspects of the body, mind, and spirit.
24:13If you are interested in
24:15learning Taoism,
24:16and want to further communicate with Hishikos,
24:19there will be a carnival soon.
24:22Yes.
24:23On September 27th, 28th, and 29th,
24:25we will hold a spiritual festival.
24:29Why is it called a festival?
24:30Because it's not just a spiritual festival.
24:32There will also be
24:34many famous and popular
24:37spiritual teachers from overseas
24:39who will come and do a lot of sharing with everyone.
24:42So I hope everyone can
24:44come to our spiritual space
24:46for a spiritual festival
24:48to get to know yourself
24:50and improve your life.
24:52I admire Hishiko because
24:54at every stage,
24:56he knows what he wants
24:58and is serious about it.
25:00So I'm very grateful
25:02that Hishiko is willing to share so much
25:04and I hope everything
25:06goes well for you.
25:08Thank you for being willing to
25:10learn about this.
25:12That's why you have these questions.
25:14Thank you for giving me this opportunity
25:16to get to know myself.
25:20See you next time.
25:22You are welcome to follow
25:24our SHOW CHINESE
25:26on Facebook, Instagram,
25:28Xiaohongshu, and TikTok.
25:30See you next time.
25:34I heard I was timing,
25:36so I have to hurry up.
25:38Okay.
25:40Let's play a 10-second Q&A challenge.
25:42You can answer after I ask you a question.
25:44Okay.
25:46What do you want to experience
25:48after experiencing so many professions?
25:50What do you want to experience?
25:52What I want to experience
25:54is what I'm learning now.
25:56I want to become a spiritual communicator.
25:58I'm still interning,
26:00so I haven't experienced it yet.
26:06I don't think this is a smart decision.
26:08I don't plan to
26:10become a spiritual communicator
26:12every now and then.
26:14A lot of things happened to me
26:16because I didn't react well enough.