Capt. Anuba, sinabing galing sa "PCSO building" ang pinapalitang pera na ibinigay kay Col. Vilela
Sa pagtatanong ni Rep. Romeo Acop, sinabi ni Capt. Anuba na galing umano sa "PCSO building" at kay Sgt. Uballes ang perang pinapalitan niya mula peso-to-dollar upang maipadala kay Col. Roland Vilela. Itinanggi ito ni Sgt. Uballes.
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00:00We have received information that you are exchanging P2 dollars here in Manila. Is that true?
00:14Yes, sir.
00:16It's true?
00:17Yes, sir.
00:18Who ordered you to exchange P2 dollars?
00:21Someone called me, sir.
00:24What?
00:25Someone called me, sir.
00:27Who called you?
00:29Sir Belela, sir.
00:31Who?
00:32Sir Belela.
00:33Why?
00:36Sir Belela.
00:41He called you to exchange P2 dollars.
00:46Was he calling you when he was in the United States of America?
00:54Yes, sir.
00:55So, for a long distance?
00:57By verb, sir.
00:58By verb?
00:59Yes, sir.
01:00By verb.
01:01Text or call?
01:02Call, sir.
01:03Call.
01:04So, call.
01:05He ordered you to exchange P2 dollars.
01:09What, sir?
01:12Yes, sir.
01:24Yes.
01:26So, he called you to exchange.
01:29Where will you get the P2 dollars that you will exchange?
01:34In the PCSO building, sir.
01:39In the PCSO building.
01:41You cannot give money to the PCSO building.
01:45Because, of course, only people will give money.
01:49Isn't that right, Captain?
01:52Yes, sir.
01:53Who is giving you money to convert it to dollars to go to the US of A to Colonel Belela?
02:04Who?
02:05His security, sir.
02:08What?
02:09The security of GM, sir.
02:11The security of?
02:12GM, sir.
02:13Of Madam Garma?
02:15Yes, sir.
02:17In the vast amount of security of Madam Garma, who came from CIDG, there was even an NBI team there.
02:27Who from them?
02:29Who from the security is giving you?
02:33Sergeant Obalye, sir.
02:35Sergeant?
02:36Obalye, sir.
02:37Obalye?
02:39Sergeant Obalye, sir.
02:43The question that Honorable Fernandez asked earlier about the group in the PCSO building.
02:50Yes, sir.
02:51Yes.
02:52Now, when you give money to that person, is it regular?
02:57When I say regular, is it weekly?
03:01Fifty days? Monthly? Or six months?
03:05No, sir.
03:06What?
03:07It's not regular, sir.
03:09How? How many times a month, for example?
03:14No, sir. There's no regular, sir.
03:17No regular?
03:18No regular, sir.
03:19So, you mean to say, Captain Innova, that you go to the PCSO, you get money there,
03:31to convert it into dollars, and you send it to Colonel Velela.
03:37How do you send that money?
03:41Please repeat, sir.
03:42How do you send the converted money to Colonel Velela?
03:49I just give it back to whoever gave it, sir.
03:51Huh?
03:52I just give it back to whoever gave it, sir.
03:54You give it back to?
03:56Whoever gave it, sir.
03:58Who gave it to you?
03:59Yes, sir.
04:00So, you mean to say, Obalye?
04:04Yes, sir.
04:05May I know if we have invited Obalye, Mr. Chair?
04:10We have.
04:11We have? Is he present?
04:14Yes.
04:15Yes.
04:16Yes.
04:17Yes.
04:18Yes.
04:19Yes.
04:20Yes.
04:21Yes.
04:22Yes.
04:23Yes.
04:24Yes.
04:25Yes.
04:26Yes.
04:27Yes.
04:28Yes.
04:29Yes.
04:30Yes.
04:31Yes.
04:32Yes.
04:34May I?
04:36Would you please sit farther from Colonel Velela?
04:57Sergeant Obalye, you are the first cousin of Madam Garma, correct?
05:02Yes, Your Honor. Good morning.
05:03Yes. Okay.
05:04The relationship is just established.
05:06Did you hear Captain Anuba's answer to my questions? Did you hear it?
05:16Yes, Your Honor.
05:17Did he say anything truthful?
05:19Nothing.
05:20Nothing?
05:23Yes, Your Honor.
05:24Nothing?
05:25Yes.
05:27Captain, the Sergeant said that you lied.
05:36I am the one who is telling the truth.
05:38I am the one who is telling the truth.
05:39Come closer.
05:40I am just telling the truth, Your Honor.
05:43Huh?
05:44I am just telling the truth.
05:48You know, Sergeant Obalye, I believe this more.
05:51Why?
05:54This is just assigned to Colonel Velela.
05:58You have been with Madam Garma for a long time.
06:02Right?
06:04You also lied.
06:06But later, maybe you will get it.