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"Hosakta Hai Main maulana ko Draft Bana Kardun...." Salman Akram Raja Big Revelations

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00:00We meet Maulana Sahib and you come out and say that a committee has been formed.
00:04What is the purpose of that committee?
00:06Because there is no joint work on Musawwida.
00:08What will happen in that committee?
00:10Look, today I and Kamran Murtaza Sahib had a meeting, a session.
00:16We exchanged views.
00:18And there can be a Musawwida.
00:21I will come and meet him.
00:25So we will continue to discuss this.
00:28There is a Musawwida in my mind.
00:32As far as the Constitutional Court is concerned, what justification is given for that?
00:37Sorry, I want to come to you point by point.
00:40You said that you might make a Musawwida.
00:43So it seems that the PTI has agreed that it will support the government on some constitutional amendments.
00:49If they agree to your conditions.
00:51Is it right to assume that there will be some constitutional amendments?
00:53Our basic position is that this assembly does not have the right to constitutional amendments.
00:58We will continue to repeat that position.
01:01But if we have to make some amendments,
01:04if we have to show flexibility on behalf of Maulana or someone else,
01:10then what amendments should there be?
01:12We are ready to talk about that as well.
01:14This is a principally big position.
01:16Earlier you said that the amendments will not be passed because this is a non-constitutional assembly.
01:21Now you have come to the middle.
01:23You are saying that if the conditions are acceptable, then you are ready to support it.
01:26This is a principal PTI position.
01:28No, we will not support it.
01:29If you are helping Musawwida Banana, then facilitate it.
01:31No, it is a matter of giving a suggestion to Maulana.
01:33We want Maulana to raise these points in the Parliament and in the committee.
01:37These are things for Maulana to see.
01:40If Maulana will consider them worthy enough to take them forward, then we will want them to proceed.
01:46So that whatever has to be done to improve the constitution,
01:50so that the constitution is not made to be against a political party or a political leader.
01:56At this time, it is obvious that the Musawwida who is in front of us is a killer.
02:01There is nothing else.
02:02That is why we want that our basic position is that there is no need for constitutional amendments at this time.
02:08Leave this matter for 4-6 months.
02:10Before that, there are many other matters that have to be decided.
02:14After that, we will see.
02:15Whatever has been there for 77 years, you did not put it in the Constitutional Court.
02:21So, there is no need to put it in today.
02:23We can wait for a few months.
02:25So, this is our position.
02:27But if this comes up, Maulana said, give us some suggestions so that we can think about it.
02:32In this regard, we will definitely give some suggestions.
02:35So, if your suggestions are accepted and included in Musawwida, then what is wrong in voting?
02:40Because if your suggestions are accepted and included in the Constitutional Court,
02:45then if you are consulting, then the vote will also come back.
02:48Look, if the Constitutional Court is formed without our vote, and it is a good Constitution, then it should be formed.
02:55But since we do not agree with the right of the Assembly to make constitutional amendments,
03:02then we may not be included in it.
03:04But there is no harm in giving suggestions in terms of knowledge and improvement.
03:09What we want is that there should be no amendments.
03:11This Assembly should not make amendments.
03:13To make amendments, there should be a very trustworthy Assembly.
03:16This is a rule.
03:17But Ghajji sahab, you are playing both ways.
03:20You do not consider the Assembly trustworthy, but if you give suggestions to Maulana sahab,
03:24he should go and present them, he should pass them.
03:27No, this is how it is.
03:29This is flexibility.
03:30This is politics.
03:31This is not a trivial matter.
03:33We want that there should be no amendments.
03:36But if we are told to give some amendments so that there can be some give and take,
03:41some softening can be created, then we will give those amendments.
03:44It is not that either it is this or that.
03:46This does not happen.
03:47Our principle is that this Assembly has no objections.
03:51But if Maulana comes to India and says, no, give some amendments, then we will give.
03:58Right.
03:59When you met Maulana sahab, did you also have this doubt that he is on board with the government on most things?
04:04Because the journalists who met him, who had a conversation with him,
04:07they are very senior people, they must have understood that he is close to the government,
04:12he is leaning towards the development of the government.
04:14Did you get any impression in this?
04:16No, look, in this regard, if there is a legal court,
04:23and the reason for that is that other cases of madness, military nature, tax,
04:30they become a victim of confusion when these legal cases come in front of the Supreme Court,
04:35and a big bench, 10-13 judges sit and listen to the case,
04:39then the other work is affected.
04:42Now if this is the case of a legal court, and till now no other case has come forward,
04:47this is the only case.
04:48Look, there are many other ways for that.
04:50There are many countries in the world where there is a permanent constitutional bench.
04:54You can increase the number of judges to 24,
05:01and say that 5 judges will be a permanent constitutional bench,
05:06and the remaining 19 or 17 judges will do other work.
05:11In my opinion, this is a very good solution.
05:14You can also do this, that the constitutional bench consisting of 5 judges,
05:19can be increased from 5 to 9,
05:21one judge from each province can be taken,
05:23two judges from each province can be taken in detailed cases,
05:26and it should be a rotation, so that all judges of the Supreme Court get a chance to participate in legal cases.
05:32But Maulana is on board on this, he is in favor of a legal court.
05:35So Maulana, Noon League, People's Party, more or less ANP,
05:39all these parties are talking about a constitutional court.
05:41There are many things to be done, that is why I said that we have started the discussion.
05:45There is a difference between a legal court and a legal bench.
05:48Of course, but the purpose of a legal court is better than a legal bench.
05:53Look, if you make a legal bench,
05:55there is a unity of structure, which is the requirement of our constitution.
05:59There is an apex court.
06:01You can have different judges of the Supreme Court in that bench through rotation.
06:05This is something that happens in the world.
06:07It happens in India and in other countries.
06:09So Maulana is open to this suggestion.
06:11I think that if this suggestion is given to them properly,
06:15as I want to give it,
06:17then the purpose of a legal court is only that
06:20there should be a new court in which a judge of their choice should be appointed
06:24and some results should be taken from those judges of their choice.
06:27What I am saying is that no, don't do this.
06:30The judges of the Supreme Court at the moment,
06:33and some other judges,
06:35the method of appointing judges in the Supreme Court,
06:38while running it, increase the number of judges,
06:41and five judges should become a permanent member of the legal bench.
06:45Maulana, you have shown flexibility in this.
06:47You have to present it now.
06:48Look, as I am telling you now,
06:50I will write it down and give it to you, Inshallah.
06:52And we will also give arguments in favour of it.
06:55I don't see any argument against it.
06:57The requirement of a legal court is only that
07:00a judge of their choice should be appointed,
07:02and through him,
07:04the intention to bring a reference against PTI should be accepted,
07:09PTI should be banned,
07:11Mr. Imran Khan should be taken to a military court,
07:13and if there is an appeal or petition against him,
07:16he should go to this bench and be punished.
07:18Right now, there is no other purpose of a legal court.

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