90 Day Fiance Before the 90 Days Season 6 Episode 18

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00:00:00Violet, are you pregnant with Riley's child?

00:00:30I'm so sorry, Violet. Just to be clear, you were pregnant with Riley's child?

00:00:50Yes.

00:00:55So Riley, are you hearing some of these details for the first time?

00:00:59She didn't tell me it was a miscarriage.

00:01:07That's a lot.

00:01:17How does it feel seeing Violet so upset right now?

00:01:24I hate that I feel this way, but I just, I'm kind of like, until I understand, I can't really emotionally attach to it.

00:01:37As women, we have all been through stuff, so I'm feeling her. Being pregnant with someone you're not really talking to, they're far away, that's scary.

00:01:47As far as the timelines, it's four weeks later. I believe that it might have been yours.

00:02:16And Riley, you haven't been an angel to her either. You also have your temper, you also have your issues, your own baggage.

00:02:24I never said that I wanted to hold anything against her. I told her I need to understand this so I could accept it and move on.

00:02:35Well, there was a lot to unpack here. So Riley, what is next for you?

00:02:55Well, Violet is coming to the U.S.

00:02:59Oh, really? Okay.

00:03:04She has a tourist visa. She got it on her own, it had nothing to do with me, but she let me know that she will be in the States and I suggested that we all meet up, you know, just to break bread and try to be kind to each other and just, you know, hug it out, you know?

00:03:19You think there's a possibility that they could get back together?

00:03:22I totally could see it because you're still feeling something.

00:03:30I think in future we can meet together and we are friends now.

00:03:38Would you like this meeting to end in you and Violet getting back together?

00:03:46Not necessarily. But if it's God's will, then it will be.

00:03:53You're leaving the door open.

00:03:55Wide open.

00:03:57Windows, doors, French doors.

00:04:00Listen, it's just a little bit of a crack to let her know that I don't hate you.

00:04:05Well, we thank you for sharing your story. And Violet, I know this was not easy for you.

00:04:12Tiffany, as always, you are very candid and honest and we appreciate hearing your thoughts.

00:04:21Guys.

00:04:22Find love.

00:04:24Thank you, Tiffany. Riley and Violet, no matter what happens when you two meet again, I hope you both find love in the future.

00:04:38Okay, let's take a break.

00:04:50After all this, okay, and maybe I'm not the right person to tell you this, all this toxicity, right?

00:04:59Why, I feel in my heart that you still want this to work.

00:05:05I'm going to tell you the truth. I would have gave her the ring.

00:05:14Did you have a ring?

00:05:16Oh my gosh, Riley.

00:05:17She didn't know.

00:05:18Like you were there in it that much.

00:05:21Because I didn't want to not. My biggest fear is could have, would have, should have, if.

00:05:27I know.

00:05:28I didn't want to come back home and be like, I wonder what would have happened if I could have done this.

00:05:34I was beat up with lies for two years. Now I'm thinking back on it, I tried to communicate with her and tried to build something.

00:05:44I just think that if we had better communication and honesty from the get go, yeah, I don't know.

00:05:54Okay, everyone get ready for your back on set.

00:05:56Okay, let's go.

00:06:08Now we are going to shift over to Christian and Cleo.

00:06:12Christian's time in London with Cleo had more than a few rocky moments, but as we found out earlier, it wasn't enough to break them apart.

00:06:22Have you seen each other since we last saw you together?

00:06:26We have.

00:06:27Three days ago.

00:06:28Three days ago.

00:06:30We were shacked up pretty good.

00:06:32Yeah, she left my home just a few days ago. We were together for about a month.

00:06:37Okay, Cleo, did you meet Christian's family?

00:06:40I actually did meet all of the women from Christian's family.

00:06:46Oh, the matriarchal line.

00:06:48Yes, how did that go?

00:06:50Oh my God, they loved her.

00:06:54They loved her.

00:06:55Yeah, you know, they really made me feel as a big part of the family.

00:07:00And we just had the most amazing time and I was really moved.

00:07:04It's wonderful that you had a great time with the women.

00:07:08Why did you meet just the women of the family and not any of the men?

00:07:13Well, I can answer that.

00:07:17So, my family are, you know, masculine and conservative.

00:07:23You know, a lot of hurtful things were said.

00:07:26You know, you can't believe you do this to me.

00:07:30It was just a rough thing.

00:07:32So, I tried to shield Cleo from that and hopefully avoid any type of, you know,

00:07:38situation where they made her feel uncomfortable.

00:07:41I have a lot of compassion and grace for that because obviously I am not a stranger

00:07:49to experiencing rejection and hatred even.

00:07:53Well, someone who has always accepted Cleo for who she is, is Cleo's friend Jane.

00:07:59Whenever she would spend time with Christian,

00:08:02she would notice red flags about him.

00:08:05Jane is connecting with us now to share her major concerns

00:08:09and tell us if she finally has accepted their relationship.

00:08:12Please welcome Jane.

00:08:14Hi Jane, how are you?

00:08:17Thanks for joining us.

00:08:19How do you feel about Christian today?

00:08:22I mean, it's a tough one.

00:08:30I do speak with Cleo and she's sharing when things are good and when things are bad.

00:08:36And as a friend, I'm obviously sometimes concerned.

00:08:39Christian is just a little bit too selfish and he has hard times actually hearing Cleo.

00:08:47Jane, I really appreciate what you're saying, but I also feel that, you know,

00:08:52Christian and I have been kind of on a verge of really being able to understand each other better.

00:08:58Yeah, Cleo and I have talked about it.

00:09:01We've talked about her boundaries and I have made changes.

00:09:07The biggest issue for me and the biggest red flag for me is that you

00:09:11still kind of keep chatting with other girls and you still keep inviting other people into,

00:09:16I guess, your relationship.

00:09:20Wait, how do you know he's chatting with other girls, Jane?

00:09:23Well, I mean, I know there have been concerns, but Cleo thinks that he's chatting with other girls.

00:09:31There's just been one instance where I felt it was a little bit crossing the boundaries, but we talked about it.

00:09:39What was the one incident?

00:09:44I mean, I think that overall Christian's been a lot better.

00:09:49He showed me he cares 100%.

00:09:51He showed me he cares 100%.

00:09:53I'm not answering the question, though.

00:09:57She doesn't want to answer the question.

00:10:00I will tell you what she's not saying.

00:10:07I'm not introverted. I crave being out with people, talking and engaging,

00:10:13and I don't see at all how anything that I said could be conceived as flirting.

00:10:19That is so disrespectful. I have no words for you at all.

00:10:26No, I'm not saying something's going to happen with us, but I have to protect myself.

00:10:30This is the thing with a prenup. You're going to leave me unprotected and I'm going to be homeless.

00:10:35Gino, did you ask your ex to sign a prenup?

00:10:50I will tell you what she's not saying.

00:10:54While she was staying with me, I have this group called Steiner's Anonymous.

00:10:59It's a Discord server where you can go and you can put messages on a general chat board.

00:11:06And there was a gal who joined and was pretty active.

00:11:12I mean, she wasn't active. She was active with you.

00:11:16And yeah, it made Cleo extremely uncomfortable.

00:11:21Hold on. It was that she made it really clear that she was interested in you and found you extremely attractive.

00:11:28Yeah, she called me cute. She called me cute and I said, thank you. That's very nice of you to say.

00:11:33I want to interact with people. I don't think that is flirting.

00:11:38I like making friends. I cast a very wide net.

00:11:41I feel like you're trying to justify your actions. Like you're making excuses instead of owning it.

00:11:49I wouldn't justify it. I didn't feel like I was doing anything wrong.

00:11:54Do you now?

00:11:56Only because it affected Cleo.

00:12:00Wrong answer.

00:12:02Say, what I did was wrong and I'll do better.

00:12:06I just don't see it.

00:12:08I just don't see it.

00:12:11All right. Well, several times during his visit, Cleo accused Christian of being overly flirty with other women.

00:12:19Christian claimed that he was just being friendly.

00:12:22Let's take a look back at those interactions, including extended footage never before seen.

00:12:28Hey, excuse me. Excuse me. Are you guys like celebrating something tonight?

00:12:32Your birthday? 26?

00:12:35Is there any like particular scotches that you could recommend?

00:12:38I have no idea.

00:12:40Okay.

00:12:41I feel like I like too many people for me to interact with at the same time.

00:12:44I just need to go back home.

00:12:46Well, all right, my friends. Happy birthday.

00:12:49Have a good night, ladies.

00:12:51Can I get a Jameson Double, please?

00:12:56How's it going?

00:12:57Good. How are you?

00:12:58I'm doing pretty good.

00:12:59Are you from the States?

00:13:00Yeah, I was about to say. You're excellent.

00:13:02I kind of relish these moments when I'm alone.

00:13:04I'm kind of like my own little wolf on the prowl.

00:13:09I came to London to meet my girlfriend.

00:13:11And you've met her?

00:13:12Yes, I met her. She's real.

00:13:14Have you gotten any feedback from her? Does she think this is going well?

00:13:17There's been like a couple hiccups and things, just like miscommunications.

00:13:19What were the hiccups?

00:13:21Well, there was just like this instance where like I really wanted to disclose the fact that we've been intimate and she didn't.

00:13:27Okay, so you just like broadcast to the world?

00:13:29No, not like, eventually I would have to tell like my Steiners.

00:13:33Your what?

00:13:34My Steiners.

00:13:35What is that?

00:13:36It's a community of like-minded people, shall we say.

00:13:40It's basically if you're like a cool person, you're a Steiner.

00:13:44Did you create this?

00:13:45Me and a couple buddies, yeah.

00:13:47You know, we'd have like a code word.

00:13:49And the code word was, you know, forgetting some was like, instead of saying I got laid, I got some Stein.

00:13:55That's awful.

00:13:57You're going to think I'm just like such an ass.

00:13:59It's really leading that way, yeah.

00:14:01Yeah, totally.

00:14:05I wish I could stay longer, but.

00:14:07Before you go, like, if you wanted to come to like our Thanksgiving that we're having tomorrow night, like we're making a turkey.

00:14:13I'm going to be in Belgium.

00:14:14No problem.

00:14:15Thank you so much.

00:14:16Do you want to add me on Instagram? What's your?

00:14:19Yeah, I'll put it in.

00:14:23It was great meeting you.

00:14:24Good to meet you too.

00:14:25Bye bye.

00:14:28Oh my God, Christian.

00:14:30Oh my God.

00:14:32Is it really that bad?

00:14:34Cleo, after seeing all that, what are your thoughts?

00:14:41That this isn't OK.

00:14:43There was a lot of boundaries that were crossed.

00:14:45I feel like that was a bit too much.

00:14:48There was some, you know, long stares and kind of like slightly flirty behaviors.

00:14:53And I feel inviting somebody over.

00:14:55It's something that Christian I talked about.

00:14:58It's definitely a boundary that I'm not willing to get past.

00:15:04I want to ask Christian a question.

00:15:06What are you doing in the bars and talking to each other?

00:15:10OK, OK.

00:15:11Now here.

00:15:12Now, Rezvin, I'm not introverted.

00:15:15I crave being out with people, talking and engaging and socializing.

00:15:24I do worry that him being so extroverted and liking the attention that way makes me feel like I'm never going to be enough for him.

00:15:30That's not true.

00:15:32Babe, that's not true.

00:15:33But it's how she feels.

00:15:34I know, I know, but it's not true.

00:15:39Christian referred to himself as, what was it, a wolf on the prowl?

00:15:42Oh boy.

00:15:43Yeah, disgusting.

00:15:46I didn't mean it like that.

00:15:47How did you mean it, Christian?

00:15:49How did you mean it?

00:15:51There's really no other way that that could be taken.

00:15:53That is so disrespectful.

00:15:55Like, that is just.

00:15:57Well, OK, first off, I'm in London to see my girlfriend.

00:16:01Why would I go out and try to hook up with somebody?

00:16:04First off, where would I do it?

00:16:05That's what you would do it.

00:16:06Why?

00:16:07That's exactly what you would do it.

00:16:08No, it was not.

00:16:09It was absolutely not.

00:16:11And that's not, that's taken out of context.

00:16:13That is not how I meant it.

00:16:14But you invited her to Thanksgiving.

00:16:16Where my girlfriend was going to be and her friend.

00:16:18It doesn't matter.

00:16:19She's a random at a bar.

00:16:20She was an American in Europe.

00:16:21She's a random at a bar.

00:16:25I don't see at all how anything that I said could be conceived as flirting

00:16:31when I was being kind of, you know.

00:16:34Can't you read the body language?

00:16:36It was your whole demeanor.

00:16:38That's just the way that I act.

00:16:40That's the way that I act in a bar public scene.

00:16:42I'm there to have fun.

00:16:44I'm not there to be a square and sit in a corner and not talk to anybody.

00:16:47But Christian, you will have to change that if you want a healthy relationship.

00:16:50You have to change that part.

00:16:52Well, I know that.

00:16:53You can't justify that's just me.

00:16:54I know that.

00:16:55I feel like by you saying that's just me, you're kind of validating like your

00:16:59behavior like as being a boyfriend.

00:17:02So Cleo, I think a lot of us are curious if the woman at the bar thought

00:17:08Christian was being friendly or flirty.

00:17:13So we have her here today to find out what she thought of Christian's behavior

00:17:22that night.

00:17:23Please welcome Debra.

00:17:24She is.

00:17:25Oh, she's here.

00:17:26Hi, Debra.

00:17:27Whoa.

00:17:31Hi there.

00:17:32How are you?

00:17:34Hello, Cleo.

00:17:38I know that she wants me to go to London to visit her.

00:17:42But there is a question that I haven't really asked Cleo.

00:17:48But.

00:17:59Please welcome Debra.

00:18:04Where did they find you?

00:18:05Whoa.

00:18:06Okay.

00:18:08I'm assuming this is the first time you've seen Christian since that night

00:18:12at the bar.

00:18:13And hello, Cleo.

00:18:15Hi.

00:18:16Hi.

00:18:17Sorry.

00:18:18I was just I was a little dissociating.

00:18:19Hi.

00:18:20Okay.

00:18:21So, Debra, tell me how the conversation with Christian started that night.

00:18:28Christian came up to me.

00:18:30He's very open, very chatty.

00:18:32You can say I'm a pig.

00:18:33You can say I'm a pig.

00:18:34You can say I'm a pig.

00:18:35If I had not known he had a girlfriend, I would have thought it was just

00:18:39100% flirtation, seeing where the conversation would go.

00:18:45This is the thing.

00:18:46It's like I don't treat people different based on the fact that they're women.

00:18:51I'm a talker.

00:18:52I like to talk.

00:18:53I like to entertain.

00:18:54I'm an entertainer.

00:18:55I think there's a massive difference between being an extrovert and

00:18:58flirting with every girl that you see in the club.

00:19:01I think he's just a friendly guy.

00:19:03He's out of the country.

00:19:05He just seen this lady that was there chilling.

00:19:07I think she may have took it the wrong way.

00:19:09Yeah, but it seems like he always strikes a conversation with the girls.

00:19:13And I mean, like,

00:19:14They're 50% of the population.

00:19:16It's a coin flip.

00:19:19I deal with that like with Christians very frequently, like guys that

00:19:25approach.

00:19:26They are like trying to fish.

00:19:29Okay.

00:19:30All right, Jasmine.

00:19:31This type of criticism coming from you is pretty hypocritical.

00:19:38As someone who reached out to Dane and was talking about your intimate

00:19:44sex life.

00:19:45But Christian, listen.

00:19:47I don't go around like talking to every person, opening myself to every

00:19:52person.

00:19:53That's what you did was worse.

00:19:55No, it isn't.

00:19:56No, it's not.

00:19:57You don't want to know you still got it.

00:20:00Like you want to be wanted.

00:20:01I don't want to know I still got it.

00:20:03What don't I have?

00:20:05It's like an attention thing.

00:20:07You're a bit of a narcissist.

00:20:08Exactly.

00:20:09Your ego is like through the roof right now.

00:20:11I believe that Amanda, he wants to be the center of the attention.

00:20:15Your best friend is probably the mirror.

00:20:18Seriously?

00:20:19Christian, I think, well, I saw a conversation you had with Cleo very

00:20:24shortly before you met me.

00:20:25And she communicated with you that it made her feel uncomfortable.

00:20:29That's when I think you should have maybe been walking a little bit on

00:20:32eggshells and respected her and what she asked of you.

00:20:36That's why watching it now.

00:20:37I'm like, Christian, why did you come up and talk to me?

00:20:40Okay.

00:20:41That was like a fresh thing.

00:20:42And it's hard to change your purse, your entire personality after one

00:20:47conversation.

00:20:48But it's fresh.

00:20:49So it should be in the forefront of your mind.

00:20:51Yeah.

00:20:52And that's what I found is inappropriate.

00:20:54I feel like I'm being attacked right now for just being who I am.

00:20:59I've been called a narcissist, a flirt.

00:21:02I mean, on the brink of allegations of cheating or attempting to cheat,

00:21:07I find that extremely way off base.

00:21:11Every single person in this room reads your demeanor when you're in the

00:21:15bar.

00:21:16And every time somebody's trying to give you constructive criticism,

00:21:20you attack them back or you speak for Cleo.

00:21:27I want to tell you something, Cleo.

00:21:29You're an amazing woman, girl.

00:21:31You deserve the world.

00:21:34The fact that you're sweet doesn't mean that you don't have to stand for

00:21:37yourself and what you want.

00:21:39Okay.

00:21:40She does though.

00:21:41She does.

00:21:42Please don't.

00:21:43Just don't.

00:21:45Cleo, quick question.

00:21:47If Christian stayed exactly the same way, what you've seen on a loop,

00:21:51talking to the girls, the whole deal,

00:21:53could you be happy in this relationship?

00:22:00That is a good question.

00:22:01And I'm just going to have to process that a little because.

00:22:08I would say the answer is no.

00:22:09I don't think.

00:22:10I don't think.

00:22:17I'm not willing to withstand that for as long as I have in the past.

00:22:21And I think Christian is aware of that.

00:22:26I don't think we're going to resolve this tonight.

00:22:28So let's just move on.

00:22:31Cleo and Christian, are there any plans for the future?

00:22:36I know that she wants me to go to London to visit her.

00:22:42But the truth is, is I would rather her come here.

00:22:49And I don't necessarily mean to just visit.

00:22:53I mean, at this point, we've already gone through all these struggles.

00:22:59But there is a question that I haven't really asked Cleo.

00:23:04Would you be willing to marry me?

00:23:13Is this a proposal?

00:23:26I mean, would you be willing to marry me?

00:23:29I mean, would you be willing to marry me?

00:23:34Is this a proposal?

00:23:35Yeah, is this a proposal?

00:23:37Oh my goodness.

00:23:38Oh my God.

00:23:39Oh my God.

00:23:40Stand up, boy.

00:23:42Stand up and ask her.

00:23:44This is not official.

00:23:45OK.

00:23:46Wow.

00:23:47It would have to be in person.

00:23:50I just cannot believe this.

00:23:52This is the most surreal thing in my life.

00:23:55After everything that we've been through,

00:23:57after all the things that we've been through,

00:23:58is it something that you would consider, is what I'm saying?

00:24:03He's such an awkward guy.

00:24:07Babe, you are literally everything I'm not.

00:24:11You're the sun to my moon.

00:24:13I love you to bed.

00:24:14I accept all of your weirdness and quirks.

00:24:17And I love you like you know I do.

00:24:24Is that a yes?

00:24:26I think there should be a better place for that, though.

00:24:29Yes, I know.

00:24:34There's a real proposal on the way?

00:24:38Definitely on one of these trips,

00:24:40I would say she can anticipate that that's probably going to happen.

00:24:47I am shattered, yeah.

00:24:52We're getting the ball rolling.

00:24:54Okay, so we have an engagement on the horizon?

00:25:00Yes.

00:25:01Possibly?

00:25:02As long as she's cool with it, yeah.

00:25:03And the K-1 visa process getting started.

00:25:05Yes.

00:25:06That's something that we talked about.

00:25:07We'll take it.

00:25:08We'll take it.

00:25:09All right, Debra, thank you so much for sharing your experience

00:25:12and we certainly wish you the best of luck.

00:25:14Thank you for having me.

00:25:15All right, bye, Debra.

00:25:18Jane, you have been a wonderful friend to Cleo

00:25:21and a wonderful guest here tonight.

00:25:23Thank you so much for your time.

00:25:26Thank you, guys.

00:25:27Christian and Cleo, wow, that was surprising.

00:25:32There are still a few questions, however,

00:25:34we wish you the best because it seems like your relationship

00:25:38is moving in the right direction, so congratulations.

00:25:43Let's pause here and take a quick break.

00:26:01When they called Debra, I was totally surprised.

00:26:03She's smoking.

00:26:04I thought she was in trouble.

00:26:05When I saw her, I was like, oh, s***.

00:26:07She was hot.

00:26:08Christian, yes.

00:26:10She's got curly hair, not my type.

00:26:12Oh, come on.

00:26:14It's like in your heart, you feel like you are not doing

00:26:17anything bad because your intention is never cheating.

00:26:20And I feel you because whenever I was going out with Dan,

00:26:23it was never in my mind to cheat on you.

00:26:25I have never done that.

00:26:26I'll never do that.

00:26:27But you know what?

00:26:29We should consider in here our significant other

00:26:34and how they feel about it.

00:26:36I have this mother instinct when it comes to Cleo.

00:26:41When she heard the word proposal,

00:26:43I could see in her eyes, you know, how happy she was.

00:26:48But I was thinking to myself, bitch,

00:26:50you better be serious about that proposal because if not,

00:26:54you're going to break this girl's heart

00:26:56and I'm going to go after your f***ing ass.

00:27:02Welcome back, everyone.

00:27:04Now we're going to speak with David and Sheila.

00:27:07Sheila, what have you been doing in the Philippines

00:27:09since David has been in the States?

00:27:18Okay, that's wonderful.

00:27:19And what do you sell in the shop?

00:27:26Okay.

00:27:33That's like a big deal.

00:27:34Yes, entrepreneurs over there.

00:27:36That's wonderful.

00:27:38Okay.

00:27:39Well, when David left the Philippines,

00:27:41his goodbye with Sheila was full of tears

00:27:44but also full of hope for their future together.

00:27:47Unfortunately, things took an unexpected turn

00:27:50when David met with his immigration lawyers.

00:27:53Then they may have to rethink their plans

00:27:55to marry in the Philippines

00:27:57as well as applying for a marriage visa.

00:27:59Take a look at this never-before-seen clip.

00:28:07Wow.

00:28:30Give us the back story here.

00:28:37We meet online and she's from the Philippines

00:28:39and we've been for two years

00:28:41and I want to get married in the Philippines

00:28:43November next year.

00:28:45Okay.

00:28:46So you already have a date planned for the wedding?

00:28:53Okay.

00:28:54Let me ask you this.

00:28:56You and her want to be together as soon as possible, right?

00:29:02Okay.

00:29:03So if you get married in the Philippines,

00:29:05it's a whole different process than on a K-1.

00:29:09It will be longer.

00:29:13On a K-1, the fiancé visa,

00:29:16you're looking at about two years right now.

00:29:20If you were going to start the marriage-based visa,

00:29:25I would say closer three to four years.

00:29:31So I think you're better off with the K-1,

00:29:35with the fiancé visa?

00:30:00Okay.

00:30:13David, do you want to just call Sheila now?

00:30:25If we get married,

00:30:31Philippines, okay.

00:30:32Philippines.

00:30:34We have to wait.

00:30:35Okay.

00:30:36I understand.

00:30:38Okay.

00:30:39For three or four months?

00:30:50Year?

00:30:57Okay.

00:30:59Maybe we can get married in America first,

00:31:05but it's too long to wait.

00:31:12I hope we can make it,

00:31:15but we will see.

00:31:29Wow.

00:31:34I think everybody on the set is crying right now.

00:31:37Oh my gosh.

00:31:39David, that was a shock.

00:31:42Wow.

00:31:46For me, I can wait.

00:31:47I'm not rushing for it,

00:31:49as long as our relationship is still strong.

00:31:54I have everything ready for Sheila to move over here.

00:31:57I'm looking forward to it.

00:31:58For her to live here in America with me,

00:32:00just doing my best.

00:32:03So you've actually started the K-1 visa process?

00:32:07Yeah.

00:32:08Yeah, the process is started.

00:32:10We filled out everything.

00:32:11Everything's been submitted.

00:32:12That's really good news.

00:32:13Congratulations.

00:32:14Yeah.

00:32:15Yeah.

00:32:17So let's talk about some happy news.

00:32:21David, we hear that you were actually able

00:32:24to help Sheila fix her family home.

00:32:27Is that true?

00:32:32Oh yeah, I did.

00:32:34Yeah, I was able to help them build a brand new home.

00:32:38I think the most important thing is that

00:32:40Sheila and her family is living in a safe space.

00:32:43I think we even have some pictures

00:32:45of how the new home looks now.

00:32:48Oh good.

00:32:49I really want to see this.

00:32:55Oh my gosh.

00:32:56Wow, look at that.

00:32:57Nice.

00:32:58Yeah.

00:32:59Looks great.

00:33:00Wonderful.

00:33:02Wow, that's wonderful.

00:33:05How does it feel to be in this,

00:33:07really like a new home for you?

00:33:10Well, I'm so very happy that

00:33:14we have a new house now.

00:33:16New look and looks clean, not like before.

00:33:20So I have to thankful with him because

00:33:22he's a very supportive youngster.

00:33:26Wonderful.

00:33:27That's wonderful.

00:33:28David, how many hours a week are you working now?

00:33:34With the two jobs,

00:33:35if I have to total it, it'd be about,

00:33:40I want to say 85 maybe.

00:33:41Wow.

00:33:4285.

00:33:43How does that impact your relationship time

00:33:46with Sheila and her family?

00:33:48How does that impact your relationship time with Sheila?

00:33:51Because how much time do you get to

00:33:53actually talk to each other?

00:33:56Yeah, that's a great question.

00:33:58So while I'm at work,

00:33:59I'm texting her all the time.

00:34:01So yeah, we just communicate every single day,

00:34:04morning and night.

00:34:05We video chat.

00:34:06So we try to keep that consistent.

00:34:08It's got to be tough.

00:34:10Just to text me and call me.

00:34:12We just hide his work sometimes.

00:34:18We're going to switch gears now.

00:34:19On his trip to the Philippines,

00:34:21David had a translator named Amy.

00:34:24Because of their easy communication,

00:34:26Sheila worried that David and Amy's connection

00:34:29went a bit further than just translation.

00:34:32Take a look.

00:34:34Nice to meet you.

00:34:38My name is Amy.

00:34:41My sign name is this.

00:34:43I do interpreting.

00:34:46It's really easier if she's with us

00:34:49rather than using our phones.

00:34:55Sheila only knows a very few signs.

00:35:01If I love someone and been dating for two years,

00:35:05I would definitely learn his language.

00:35:08For me, when I learned how to sign,

00:35:11it took me a month.

00:35:15Are you married?

00:35:23Not yet.

00:35:25I don't have a husband yet.

00:35:31When I see them communicate,

00:35:34and she looks at my boyfriend,

00:35:37and David looks at her,

00:35:38and me, I was...

00:35:41Oh.

00:35:43Oh, Sheila.

00:35:55I'm jealous.

00:35:57Oh, I know that feeling.

00:36:01I don't know why he choose him, the young one.

00:36:06I'm afraid what if David want to go with her,

00:36:10not me.

00:36:16No, I don't want to show him.

00:36:20I can't.

00:36:23Because I don't want me and David fighting.

00:36:28Amy said it took her one month

00:36:32to learn sign language.

00:36:34How did you feel hearing her say that

00:36:37and also saying that if she were in a relationship...

00:36:40That's impossible.

00:36:41I don't believe it.

00:36:43How does it make you feel

00:36:45to see Sheila so emotional?

00:36:50It just breaks my heart.

00:36:51It breaks my heart.

00:36:52It breaks my heart.

00:36:54It just breaks my heart.

00:36:55It makes me sad.

00:37:12David, have you been in contact with Amy

00:37:14since you all left the Philippines?

00:37:20No.

00:37:22No.

00:37:29Oh.

00:37:33I'm curious, is this sex?

00:37:36Because this looks a lot like scissoring.

00:37:38I mean, that's a sexual position.

00:37:40Oh.

00:37:41So, you know, where you... this way.

00:37:42Yeah.

00:37:43Or you can go that way.

00:37:44Or you can...

00:37:45That's another word for... too.

00:37:46Oh, my gosh.

00:37:48David, this was a first for 90 Day Fiancé.

00:38:01David, have you been in contact with Amy

00:38:03since you all left the Philippines?

00:38:07No.

00:38:15Oh, absolutely not.

00:38:16Absolutely not.

00:38:17No.

00:38:18My goodness, David.

00:38:19I've never communicated with her.

00:38:20There was a...

00:38:21No, no way.

00:38:22Pause there.

00:38:23We were just a little bit concerned.

00:38:24My goodness.

00:38:26I wasn't in no ways flirting with Amy whatsoever.

00:38:29My eyes are only for Sheila.

00:38:32I had no idea she was jealous.

00:38:34David, on a scale of 1 to 10,

00:38:36how would you rate Sheila's sign language, ASL?

00:38:43If I were to rate her,

00:38:44I think she's about a 2 or 3 right now.

00:38:47She knows...

00:38:48She knows the alphabets, right, Sheila?

00:38:50You have the alphabets down,

00:38:51and she has basic signs as well.

00:38:53Do you agree or no?

00:39:02I agree.

00:39:08Well, because Sheila hasn't yet mastered the art of ASL,

00:39:11she and David had to get creative to communicate,

00:39:14especially when it came to some of their more intimate discussions.

00:39:18Take a look.

00:39:20You was feel good last night?

00:39:32Lucky for you, I'm good with my hands.

00:39:49So, what I do do is to beige with him until he...

00:39:55But I'm happy because he do something for me too.

00:40:20Okay, wow.

00:40:22Wow.

00:40:23That's a lot to chew on.

00:40:24I bet you hadn't seen that before.

00:40:26Whoa.

00:40:27Sheila said that she gave you a...

00:40:29What's the sign for...

00:40:31BJ, right? BJ is that.

00:40:34Holy...

00:40:37Yes.

00:40:38Yeah.

00:40:42Yeah.

00:40:43Right.

00:40:45Well, you just have a hat, and you take it off.

00:40:47And you put it right back on, and you take it off.

00:40:50Do you know?

00:40:57Whoa!

00:41:00I understand you.

00:41:02Yeah.

00:41:03I'm curious, you...

00:41:05I'm curious.

00:41:06I'm curious.

00:41:07I'm curious.

00:41:08I'm curious.

00:41:09I'm curious.

00:41:10I'm curious.

00:41:11I'm curious.

00:41:12I'm curious.

00:41:13I'm curious.

00:41:14Is the sex one this one?

00:41:15Because this looks a lot like scissoring.

00:41:17Is this...

00:41:18Is this sex?

00:41:19Oh, the scissors, yeah.

00:41:20Literal scissors.

00:41:21Well, I mean, that's the sexual position.

00:41:23Oh.

00:41:24So, you know, where you...

00:41:25This way.

00:41:26Or you can go that way.

00:41:27Or you can...

00:41:28That's another word for...

00:41:29Too.

00:41:30Oh, my God.

00:41:31I love it.

00:41:32Yeah.

00:41:33Just like this.

00:41:34Two fingers.

00:41:35There you go.

00:41:36That's it.

00:41:37David!

00:41:38I'm telling you, this was a first for 90 Day Fiance.

00:41:41My gosh.

00:41:42My gosh.

00:41:43Okay.

00:41:44So, David and Sheila, we are all hoping that the visa comes through very quickly.

00:41:49But if it is denied, do you have any idea what you will do?

00:41:54Wow.

00:41:55I mean, that'd be a f***ed up situation.

00:41:57I mean, I'll do it again.

00:42:00I'll keep applying.

00:42:01If it takes me two, three, four times, I'll keep doing it.

00:42:04I mean, but it'll be sad, of course.

00:42:07Guys, you're amazing, and I love you so much.

00:42:10I wish I could hug you, but I'm virtually hugging you right now.

00:42:14Okay?

00:42:15Okay.

00:42:18David and Sheila, I am so glad you haven't let the sign language barrier

00:42:23or anything else get in the way of your love.

00:42:26May the two of you and Jonrell be living happily ever after together soon.

00:42:32Yeah, absolutely.

00:42:33That's right.

00:42:36Okay, now, I want to circle back to Gino and Jasmine.

00:42:40I want to talk about a trust issue between the two of you, the prenup.

00:42:45Jasmine, you had some reservations, to say the least.

00:42:48Let's take a look at how Jasmine responded when Gino introduced the idea.

00:42:54No.

00:42:55If there is a f***ing prenup, I'm not going to marry you.

00:43:02Period.

00:43:03No, no.

00:43:04I'm not going to listen to somebody.

00:43:05I'm not going to listen to somebody.

00:43:06Okay, well then, that shows me that you don't love me, you don't give a s***,

00:43:09so f*** all of it then.

00:43:11Forget it then.

00:43:13Just forget it.

00:43:14F*** you.

00:43:15F*** you.

00:43:23So, I'm thinking that I might forget about the prenup.

00:43:30Um...

00:43:32I don't want to risk losing you, you know?

00:43:35I...

00:43:36I'm impressed.

00:43:38Like, this is the Gino that I fell in love with.

00:43:43Actually, if Gino was going to insist on it, I was willing to sign up the prenup.

00:43:48But I'm so thankful I shut up my mouth and let him talk first.

00:43:59So, how do you feel seeing the clip of her saying she would have signed it?

00:44:04Too late.

00:44:06Sorry.

00:44:07God, I mean...

00:44:08F***.

00:44:09No, what?

00:44:10F***.

00:44:11Okay, this is the thing with the prenup.

00:44:13The way I saw it, it's like you're going to leave me unprotected,

00:44:16and I'm going to be homeless or something.

00:44:19Gino, did you ask your ex to sign a prenup?

00:44:27Um...

00:44:29I did not.

00:44:36Jasmine, when you asked Gino for a will,

00:44:38you said it was because his family would not take care of you.

00:44:42This is one of the hardest things I have ever done,

00:44:46because it's the first time I've moved ever outside my country,

00:44:50and I never thought I was going to do it.

00:44:52Gino, where did you land on that?

00:44:54You know, if something, God forbid, happens to you,

00:44:56are you leaving everything to Jasmine?

00:44:59Well, um...

00:45:05We actually have the audio recording of the man behind the Carmela catfish.

00:45:11Tyrae, are you willing to listen to it with us today?

00:45:24Gino, did you ask your ex to sign a prenup?

00:45:30Um...

00:45:31I did not, because she was working,

00:45:35and she had her own retirement account with good investments.

00:45:41Now, I'm not saying something's going to happen with us,

00:45:43but there is a small chance that, you know, something could happen.

00:45:47Then don't get married.

00:45:48Now, hold on. Now, hold on.

00:45:50I have to protect myself.

00:45:52Yeah.

00:45:54Jasmine, when you asked Gino for a will,

00:45:57Yeah.

00:45:58you said it was because his family would not take care of you.

00:46:02They would not protect you. Do you still believe that?

00:46:05Well, I haven't met them yet,

00:46:08so I still have my doubts and hesitations.

00:46:11Well, my family's going to be your family.

00:46:13But that still don't know, and that is very scary for me.

00:46:17Gino, where did you land on that?

00:46:19You know, if something, God forbid, happens to you,

00:46:21are you leaving everything to Jasmine?

00:46:23Well, um...

00:46:26First of all, when I hear about will and she wants to do a will,

00:46:31that scares me.

00:46:32Like, what, am I going to be murdered?

00:46:36And it's like, we haven't even gotten married yet.

00:46:38We have not even gotten married yet.

00:46:40That scares me.

00:46:43I'm totally on Jasmine's side on this one, though.

00:46:46The minute a prenup is slid in there, it's saying,

00:46:49if I want this to end, I'm going to take my stuff and I'm out of here.

00:46:52That immediately puts someone on guard.

00:46:54No, no.

00:46:55Yeah, I disagree.

00:46:56You never know what can happen.

00:47:02Well, they may have ended their discussions of a prenup,

00:47:05but if there is one thing Jasmine is open about,

00:47:09it is her sexual appetite.

00:47:12Gino, much less so.

00:47:14That disconnect caused issues,

00:47:16but as you'll see here, they clearly came around.

00:47:25I have a super high sexual drive.

00:47:29And when we do have sex, Gino can't even finish.

00:47:33So I'm hoping if my pupunana gets tighter,

00:47:37he will be able to f*** the side of me.

00:47:43Wasn't it comfortable sleeping in this super comfortable bed last night?

00:47:47It was super awesome.

00:47:50I was starting to doubt that it would ever be possible

00:47:54for Gino to f*** by having sex with me.

00:47:57But last night, we tried things that I never thought.

00:48:02Like, he made me to pee on his chest.

00:48:08I gave him the golden shower.

00:48:10That's gross.

00:48:13Gino was like this on the jacuzzi,

00:48:16and he was like, give it to me, baby.

00:48:18And when he said it, I was like a dog,

00:48:21just, you know, with my leg like this, peeing on him.

00:48:24What?

00:48:25Ready, baby?

00:48:27You were drunk.

00:48:28It's such a romantic experience.

00:48:31It was.

00:48:32Gino!

00:48:34I mean, I've never personally done the golden shower, but hey.

00:48:38It was my first time, too.

00:48:39Good for you all, giving it a try. That's awesome.

00:48:42I don't even recall that.

00:48:43So did it smell like beer?

00:48:45We were in the jacuzzi, so it washed out, you know?

00:48:48You pissed the jacuzzi?

00:48:49It was just like a shower.

00:48:50Yeah!

00:48:51You pissed the jacuzzi?

00:48:52Yeah!

00:48:53A public jacuzzi?

00:48:54That's why don't trust the hotels.

00:48:56People do nasty things in there!

00:48:58Okay?

00:49:02Jasmine, we saw you go for your surgical consultation.

00:49:07Tell us how that went.

00:49:08Yeah, after the consultation, I did have the surgery.

00:49:13And what is it called?

00:49:15It's vaginal rejuvenation.

00:49:18Basically, they, like, stitch my pupunana.

00:49:23Wrap it out all again.

00:49:25I don't know how to say it in a nice way.

00:49:27That's okay.

00:49:28Okay.

00:49:29So, yeah, it's like...

00:49:32But it was very painful.

00:49:34I regret it!

00:49:36It was so painful.

00:49:37It sounds like it was painful.

00:49:40Gino, have you had sex since Jasmine had this surgery?

00:49:50Yeah, we tried.

00:49:52You tried? Okay.

00:49:53We tried.

00:49:54But it didn't go as planned.

00:49:58What?

00:50:00What happened?

00:50:03Well, her pupunana was just too tight.

00:50:07The banana doesn't fit in the donut.

00:50:13Okay, Nikola, you are laughing right now.

00:50:17You are laughing.

00:50:19Okay.

00:50:20You know what, Sean?

00:50:21I want to give advice for Jasmine and Gino.

00:50:24They try lots of earthly things, you know?

00:50:27And nothing works.

00:50:29Why don't you go to Jesus?

00:50:31He will help you.

00:50:32Beautiful words.

00:50:33When I listen to Nikola, it's like listening to my mom,

00:50:36because she's also devoted Catholic.

00:50:39And it's such a beautiful advice, yes.

00:50:41I really appreciate it.

00:50:43So, I'm going to pray to God that we have more sex.

00:50:49Amen!

00:50:51Gino, now that Jasmine is here in America,

00:50:53what is next for you two?

00:50:55We've been planning a wedding, so it's pretty exciting.

00:50:59Okay, great.

00:51:00Very exciting.

00:51:02I'm trying to adapt to my new life here in the United States.

00:51:07It's very hard, harder than I thought,

00:51:10to be far away from my family.

00:51:17I already miss them so much.

00:51:19This is one of the hardest things I have ever done,

00:51:23because it's the first time I've moved ever outside my country,

00:51:27and I never thought I was going to do it.

00:51:29But I just want everyone to know that I love Gino,

00:51:35and he's the only person that I'll do this for.

00:51:39He's the love of my life,

00:51:40and I really want to be a better partner for him.

00:51:44And I take accountability of all the mistakes

00:51:47and the hurtful things that I have done for you, baby,

00:51:49but I love you today.

00:51:50I love you.

00:51:53I certainly wish you two the very best.

00:52:00Now we are turning our attention to Amanda and Razvan.

00:52:06How are you doing?

00:52:07I'm good.

00:52:08Razvan, how are you?

00:52:10I'm not that good, to be honest.

00:52:13You're not that good?

00:52:14No, because I didn't know it would take such a long time to film,

00:52:19and I just missed my striptease class.

00:52:22This is...

00:52:23You just...

00:52:24I'm good, I'm good.

00:52:26We might ask you to show us some of your moves in a few minutes.

00:52:31Amanda, now you and Razvan had a lot of challenges on your trip,

00:52:35but you managed to end on a positive note.

00:52:39How are things going between you two?

00:52:45We are at a point now...

00:52:50We're not together, but we're friends.

00:52:54You've broken up.

00:52:55Yes.

00:52:58Amanda, how long after you returned back to the States

00:53:02did you two break up?

00:53:04Really soon after.

00:53:06It was probably about two or three weeks.

00:53:10Anybody surprised?

00:53:12I thought they would stay together.

00:53:14They started out, you know, a little rough,

00:53:16but by the end, they were really connected

00:53:18and had something good going.

00:53:20I just think that they just went too fast.

00:53:23I don't think...

00:53:24Four months was not long enough to match up

00:53:26and get to know each other.

00:53:29What happened?

00:53:31So, when I got back,

00:53:33Razvan was very focused on his career and himself,

00:53:39and he was telling me,

00:53:41this is all that I can give you,

00:53:43pretty much take it or leave it, you know,

00:53:46and I was like, well, it's not going to work for me,

00:53:47and he was like, you know,

00:53:48I just need to be single now anyways

00:53:49and focus on myself and my career, and so...

00:53:54I just, I find it very convenient...

00:53:56Yeah.

00:53:57...that you finally figured out what you wanted

00:54:00after this woman flies all the way over to Romania

00:54:03to visit you,

00:54:04and she finally allows herself to be with you intimately.

00:54:08It's just really convenient to me.

00:54:12Here's the thing is, the guy's a sweetheart,

00:54:15and I'm sure that if he did have some harsher opinions

00:54:20about his and Amanda's relationship,

00:54:23you know, I don't necessarily see him voicing those.

00:54:27Yes, that's true.

00:54:29Amanda, do you believe that the reason why

00:54:33Razvan broke up with you

00:54:35has to do with maybe you were being mean to him

00:54:39or he felt that way?

00:54:40I don't think so at all.

00:54:42Honestly, I feel like, you know,

00:54:44when I'm with someone, they need to have, like, thick skin

00:54:47because, honestly, I can be a bitch,

00:54:50and I don't mean it in a mean way,

00:54:52but I'm very sarcastic,

00:54:54and he doesn't understand my sarcasm all the time.

00:55:00I do believe that Amanda was being constantly mean to Razvan.

00:55:07I could see that he was profoundly hurt by her

00:55:12and her attitude, her words.

00:55:14Listen, that's not me being mean.

00:55:16That's me being, you know, processing my emotions.

00:55:20No one forced you to take that trip.

00:55:23You voluntarily did it, right?

00:55:26But you started not wanting him,

00:55:29and at the end of the trip, like, you wanted to be engaged to him.

00:55:32No.

00:55:34Respectfully, you don't know me,

00:55:37so, like, shut the f*** up.

00:55:43Jasmine, do you want to respond to that?

00:55:46No, because, I mean, people can draw their own conclusions.

00:55:52I believe that a lot of people, not just me, will agree with that.

00:55:57I mean, I wasn't a f***ing crybaby the whole time.

00:56:01I mean, we did have fun, you know,

00:56:03but also, too, I was going through a lot of stuff,

00:56:05and me meeting him for the first time

00:56:08If this is someone who I want in my life and my future,

00:56:12it was serious for me.

00:56:17Well, before leaving for Romania,

00:56:19Amanda's sister Amber warned her

00:56:21that she might be rushing into things with Razvan,

00:56:24and her concerns about the relationship only grew.

00:56:27We asked Amber to join us to share how she feels now

00:56:30that Amanda is back home.

00:56:32Please welcome Amber.

00:56:34Hi.

00:56:35Hi, Amber.

00:56:36First of all, thank you for joining us.

00:56:38Were you surprised by the breakup?

00:56:40Not at all.

00:56:41Why not?

00:56:43They fought a lot.

00:56:45And I'm thinking in my head, like,

00:56:46this is the honeymoon phase for them.

00:56:48They're supposed to be excited and happy,

00:56:51and for them to be fighting so quickly,

00:56:53I was very shocked.

00:56:57How do you feel about the way Razvan treated your sister?

00:57:02I wish he would have kind of let her know

00:57:06prior to her flying out there

00:57:08what exactly he was going to do

00:57:10and how he was going to do it,

00:57:12rather than wait until after she got back

00:57:14and then break it off.

00:57:16Yeah, but I didn't know,

00:57:19because I needed to see her,

00:57:21because it's something on the phone,

00:57:23and when you saw the person,

00:57:25I really wanted to see Amanda.

00:57:27So what was it in person that changed your feelings?

00:57:31I'm not, like, ready, how you said,

00:57:36to commit, like, 100%.

00:57:44I don't get it, Razvan.

00:57:45I don't understand why you came to this

00:57:48great big epiphany after you slept with her.

00:57:51Men are known to play the long game.

00:57:53I'm just saying.

00:57:55When the person is with you,

00:57:57and you do have fights,

00:57:59you realize some things.

00:58:01I'm not ready to be involved

00:58:05and have all these problems.

00:58:09And Amanda, what problems did you see

00:58:11in the relationship once you met in person?

00:58:14I mean, he can be a little controlling at times.

00:58:19You know, on, like, social media,

00:58:21he didn't want me to, you know,

00:58:24like, join other people's live streams

00:58:26or gift them and things like that.

00:58:29There were reasons for those rules, though.

00:58:31It wasn't just out of nowhere,

00:58:33I don't want you talking to this person

00:58:35because he's not me.

00:58:37There were reasons Razvan put those rules into place.

00:58:41It was causing strain on their relationship.

00:58:43What information can you give us about that, Amber?

00:58:50Well, I don't want to piss my sister off too much

00:58:52by saying things, but...

00:58:54Relax.

00:58:58Relax.

00:59:05It was really just one main guy.

00:59:09Their relationship was more than just a friendship.

00:59:13I didn't even know that.

00:59:18Amanda?

00:59:29What information can you give us about that, Amber?

00:59:34Well, I don't want to piss my sister off too much

00:59:36by saying things, but...

00:59:38Relax.

00:59:48Had you been reaching out to any guys on social media

00:59:50or responding to guys?

00:59:52It was...

00:59:53It was really just one main guy

00:59:56that she had been really, really good friends with

00:59:58that Razvan didn't want her to talk to.

01:00:03And, you know, they had a lot of fights about that.

01:00:07Their relationship was more than just a friendship.

01:00:11It was romantic for a second,

01:00:13and then it wasn't.

01:00:16Amanda?

01:00:21I mean, I don't think it was ever romantic.

01:00:25I think we were just friends.

01:00:27Why would your sister say it was romantic if it wasn't?

01:00:31I don't know.

01:00:33It was more, like, flirtatious.

01:00:36I didn't even know that.

01:00:39Like, it's the first time I hear that.

01:00:43It's the first time that you heard, what,

01:00:45that she was flirtatious with this guy?

01:00:49Yeah, like, I didn't know about the flirt.

01:00:51Well, Razvan had had suspicions for a long time,

01:00:54and I think Amanda denied it.

01:00:56I don't think she ever really told him

01:00:59that it was, you know, whatever.

01:01:01So I might have just popped the bubble on that.

01:01:03Sorry.

01:01:05Yeah, you did.

01:01:09So if Razvan was in the dark about the flirtation,

01:01:13what was his problem with your friendship with this guy?

01:01:18When Razvan and I would fight,

01:01:20you know, I would go to him and tell him,

01:01:23you know, we're fighting,

01:01:25or, you know, kind of, like, open up about our relationship

01:01:28to this person, and he didn't like that.

01:01:31How did he know?

01:01:33I mean, I would tell him, you know, like,

01:01:35or if I didn't answer his call, or he's like,

01:01:37what are you doing?

01:01:38I'm like, you know, I'm talking to my friend.

01:01:44It was never anything serious.

01:01:47Anything serious?

01:01:55Well, we've learned Amanda and Razvan have now broken up,

01:01:59but let's take a look back and see if there were signs

01:02:02this wasn't destined to work out.

01:02:06The only thing, my mother would not like

01:02:08if it's a possibility to live in America, you know?

01:02:13Yeah.

01:02:14Yeah.

01:02:23You always wanted to move to the United States?

01:02:33I didn't know that.

01:02:39You never said that to me before.

01:02:44If you would have told me that in the beginning,

01:02:46I would have been like, well, that's kind of a red flag.

01:02:48That's a little strange.

01:02:53What's wrong?

01:02:55Well, you told the shopkeeper that you want to have children.

01:03:00Yeah.

01:03:01But I already told you that.

01:03:03Now I don't want to have any more children.

01:03:06You should have said this to me before,

01:03:08like, in the beginning.

01:03:09But I'm telling you now, it's a possibility

01:03:13I want to have, like, my own child.

01:03:18When me and Amanda, we talk about kids,

01:03:21I did tell Amanda what she wanted to hear from me

01:03:25because I really didn't want that

01:03:28to be an obstacle in our relationship.

01:03:31Well, I guess we'll see in time.

01:03:34Yeah.

01:03:35Last night, I asked Razvan what his plan is

01:03:39when he comes to the United States.

01:03:41He got very defensive.

01:03:43I would expect him to have a plan.

01:03:45He was like, oh, you just don't want to, like,

01:03:50support me and my goals.

01:03:52And it kind of, like, snowballed from there.

01:03:57I don't know.

01:03:58I feel like, I don't know, there's something wrong with me.

01:04:00But in the right relationship,

01:04:08you're not feeling this.

01:04:10It's something wrong with you.

01:04:21I'd like to ask Amber, from what you saw,

01:04:24do you think there was miscommunication

01:04:26from the very beginning?

01:04:27I don't know about, I mean, I think that was his

01:04:31probably mistake in not mentioning that

01:04:33at the beginning of the relationship.

01:04:35He literally just said, which I didn't see,

01:04:37I just saw it for the first time,

01:04:39where he goes, I was basically telling her

01:04:41what she wants to hear.

01:04:42How did you feel hearing that, Amanda?

01:04:44That's crazy.

01:04:45Like, I am shocked.

01:04:47I really, I don't know.

01:04:50In the beginning, he said, you have two children,

01:04:53you know, it's fine.

01:04:55And then later, I kind of was, like, blindsided

01:04:57when he was like, no, I do want to have kids.

01:04:59Long game.

01:05:00He told you what he needed to, that you wanted to hear

01:05:04so he could get you there.

01:05:06You know what, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt

01:05:08because it seems like his tears were genuine

01:05:10and I'm not going to sit here and act like that man

01:05:12doesn't have feelings and emotions.

01:05:14But it doesn't make sense to me that all of a sudden

01:05:18you realize after you got what you wanted

01:05:22that this is not what you want.

01:05:26It does, it does make sense

01:05:29because we did have some problems

01:05:32and I'm not doing this to be with someone else.

01:05:39Razvan, I know that you have a visa to visit the States,

01:05:44but since you and Amanda are broken up,

01:05:47are you still coming?

01:05:48Yes, of course.

01:05:49I'm planning to come to U.S. in, like, two months

01:05:53and after that, I will apply for another visa,

01:05:57for a O-1 visa for, like, artists

01:06:02and I'm planning to, like, move there

01:06:05and I definitely will see Amanda

01:06:08and I want to give us another chance when I will be there.

01:06:18Oh, okay.

01:06:19So it doesn't seem like this relationship

01:06:22has a completely closed door.

01:06:24No, it doesn't.

01:06:26I'm coming there because I want to be there.

01:06:29And where will you be staying?

01:06:31Razvan did ask me if he could stay with me

01:06:35while he was here until he found a place.

01:06:39And what did you say?

01:06:45Um, I told him absolutely not.

01:06:50Are you sure about that?

01:06:51Yeah.

01:06:53I think we will take everything step by step,

01:06:57not move together in the first day when I will be there.

01:07:02And I'll always be here if she needs me.

01:07:08Well, Amanda, we unfortunately have to say goodbye

01:07:12to your sister Amber.

01:07:13Thank you very much.

01:07:14We appreciate it.

01:07:15All right, thank you.

01:07:18Amanda and Razvan, we appreciate you

01:07:21letting us into your lives.

01:07:22I know this wasn't easy,

01:07:23but we wish you nothing but the best.

01:07:27Now let us turn to Tyrae.

01:07:30After four years in a relationship

01:07:32with a woman named Carmella,

01:07:34he found out that he'd actually been speaking

01:07:38to a man named Christian.

01:07:42We saw the end of your journey

01:07:44with you meeting the woman in the photos,

01:07:48the real Carmella.

01:07:49What was going through your mind, Tyrae?

01:07:53Uh, like at first,

01:07:54just the physical aspect of it was, like, confusing.

01:07:57But then, you know, you realize that

01:07:59that wasn't who you were talking to

01:08:02for that amount of time, you know?

01:08:04It was a completely different person.

01:08:07All right.

01:08:08So how do you respond to the people

01:08:12who say that you were just ignoring the red flags?

01:08:18I mean, they were right. I did.

01:08:19I ignored every single red flag.

01:08:21Every red flag.

01:08:22They were right there in my eyes,

01:08:23and I just, like, right there.

01:08:25But I just ignored them.

01:08:27Jesus, man.

01:08:29Oh, man.

01:08:30I mean, how many years

01:08:31and you didn't do a video call?

01:08:33I don't know.

01:08:34Weird stuff happens to me.

01:08:38Tyrae, was there a moment where you said,

01:08:40this is too good to be true?

01:08:42It's gotta be.

01:08:44Yeah, every day almost.

01:08:46I second-guessed everything about it.

01:08:48I was like, this does not add up.

01:08:50But then I was just, like,

01:08:51I kind of was, like, gaslighting myself.

01:08:53You know what I mean, you know?

01:08:55Yeah.

01:08:56Like, now I learned from that, though, like, 100%.

01:08:59There you go.

01:09:03It was actually one of the 90 Day Fiance producers

01:09:06who first made contact with a person

01:09:08pretending to be Carmella.

01:09:11She is here now to walk us through how it all unfolded.

01:09:14Please welcome Amelia.

01:09:20Hey, Amelia.

01:09:21Hi, how are you?

01:09:22Good, how are you?

01:09:23Good.

01:09:26Amelia, how did you discover

01:09:28that Tyrae was being catfished?

01:09:32So Tyrae gave me Carmella's Snapchat

01:09:37and phone number and email.

01:09:40And I tried to set up a video chat

01:09:43with her over email, but she kept avoiding it.

01:09:46And she wouldn't answer any of my phone calls.

01:09:49So definitely some red flags started popping up in my head.

01:09:55Because phone calls are a normal part

01:09:57of our pre-interview process, so...

01:10:00I was just very persistent,

01:10:02carried on emailing, Snapchatting.

01:10:05I was just determined to find out,

01:10:07because obviously I love Tyrae,

01:10:08so I was like, something's going on here.

01:10:11And then eventually...

01:10:13Carmella sent me an email saying,

01:10:17it's time to come clean.

01:10:19I feel awful.

01:10:21It's been going on for too long.

01:10:23So, yeah.

01:10:25Okay.

01:10:26We actually have the audio recording

01:10:29of Amelia's call with Christian,

01:10:31the man behind the Carmella catfish.

01:10:37Tyrae, you weren't able to sit through the recording

01:10:40previously.

01:10:41Are you willing to listen to it with us today?

01:10:50What was the most shocking thing

01:10:52about the call with Christian?

01:10:54When he said that he physically saw Tyrae,

01:10:58and Tyrae went out there,

01:11:00which I thought was so scary.

01:11:03Wow.

01:11:04That's creepy.

01:11:05It's really f***ed up.

01:11:11We actually have the audio recording

01:11:14of Amelia's call with Christian,

01:11:16the man behind the Carmella catfish.

01:11:19Tyrae, you weren't able to sit through the recording previously.

01:11:23Are you willing to listen to it with us today?

01:11:30Yeah, it's fine.

01:11:31Okay.

01:11:32Here it is.

01:11:34So, what is your name?

01:11:37So, what is your name?

01:11:41And who have you been saying that you are?

01:11:50When did this all start then?

01:11:58Really?

01:12:07And I just look for guys who maybe send money.

01:12:19Two, three thousand dollars.

01:12:26It's only for money for me.

01:12:31No, no feelings.

01:12:37I didn't want you to get that far,

01:12:39but I did say to come because I needed clothes

01:12:43and also sell you a phone.

01:12:45So, I just told him to bring the clothing

01:12:48to a particular store

01:12:50and he left the clothing there

01:12:52while I worked in the car.

01:12:56Yes.

01:13:01But he was dumb.

01:13:02Stupid and married, I think.

01:13:06Yeah.

01:13:12I'm so sorry, Tyrae.

01:13:15What an ass****.

01:13:16Yeah.

01:13:19And so, it kind of sucks.

01:13:21I don't know, it just really pisses me off, honestly.

01:13:24Like, I just want to f*** him up, but...

01:13:26Sorry.

01:13:27But, I don't know, like...

01:13:29If this Christian's watching, you know,

01:13:32from one Christian to another,

01:13:33I want to give you a big f*** you.

01:13:36You're honestly a scummy person,

01:13:39you're a scammer,

01:13:40and I think anything that happens to you

01:13:44in life that is bad,

01:13:45you probably deserve and should consider that.

01:13:48Yes, karma is a bitch and it will reach out to you,

01:13:52okay, because having no remorse about it

01:13:56and expressing yourself the way you did about Tyrae,

01:13:59it really makes me want to punch you in your f***ing face.

01:14:04Yeah, unleash the beast.

01:14:12The most shocking bit was when he said

01:14:16that he physically saw Tyrae,

01:14:18when Tyrae went out there,

01:14:20and he physically saw him drop off clothes and money.

01:14:26He was actually watching him, yeah,

01:14:28which I thought was so scary.

01:14:33That's creepy.

01:14:34It definitely feels violating

01:14:36and it makes you feel uncomfortable too.

01:14:40It's really f***ed up.

01:14:44Tyrae, I know that you have never had a chance

01:14:49to speak to Christian directly,

01:14:54but since filming,

01:14:55we've been able to dig up a new phone number for him.

01:15:04Would it be okay with you if we called him right now?

01:15:17I'm okay calling him.

01:15:20Okay.

01:15:21Wow.

01:15:24I don't know where this is going to go,

01:15:26but okay, let's have our producers

01:15:30go ahead and connect in the control room

01:15:33and Tyrae will be able to speak to him directly.

01:15:37Here we go.

01:15:53Hello?

01:15:59Hello?

01:16:08Here we go.

01:16:21Hello?

01:16:24Please leave your message after the tone.

01:16:27We're going to get you, mother-----.

01:16:29We got your back, Tyrae.

01:16:37We all got your back.

01:16:39I appreciate it, you guys.

01:16:41Tyrae, I'm sorry he didn't answer,

01:16:43but we appreciate you being willing to reach out.

01:16:48Looking back, what concerns you the most

01:16:52about this interaction that you had with this guy, Christian?

01:16:58Definitely, they would ask for, you know, intimate photos.

01:17:01Oh, my God.

01:17:03You know, when someone is asking you for photos like that

01:17:05and then you kind of get caught up in the moment,

01:17:07you're like, hey, you want to see what I got,

01:17:08so I'm going to show it to you, you know?

01:17:10So you're saying during one of your exchanges,

01:17:13they asked you for intimate photos of yourself

01:17:16and you actually sent them?

01:17:20Unfortunately.

01:17:24Was your face in the photo?

01:17:27I think so.

01:17:28Oh.

01:17:30It did worry me because especially once the show aired and everything,

01:17:35I wasn't sure what they would have did.

01:17:36I thought they would, like, try to blackmail me or something

01:17:39or send them to, like, my mom or somebody on social media

01:17:42or someone from, like, work or something.

01:17:44Yeah, if they're willing to do all of that,

01:17:46what else are they willing to do?

01:17:47That's a really, really scary thought, brother.

01:17:49That's really scary.

01:17:50Yeah, they're going for the lowest of the low.

01:17:53I feel so sorry for you, Tyree.

01:18:00If Christian is watching this show,

01:18:06what would you say to him?

01:18:07What would your message to him be?

01:18:14You know what?

01:18:16I'm going to take the Nicola and Misha route and pray for him.

01:18:19That's what he needs.

01:18:21Best thing ever, Tyree.

01:18:23Best thing ever.

01:18:24That's big of you, brother.

01:18:25That's real big.

01:18:26That's it.

01:18:28Yeah.

01:18:29All right, Tyree.

01:18:30So many real women want to know, are you single and looking?

01:18:38I'm definitely single, not looking, though.

01:18:41I got to do a lot of, like, self-healing and self-improvement

01:18:45and that's what I got to do right now.

01:18:47My sister did tell me to tell you to holla at her.

01:18:49Uh-oh.

01:18:54Just saying.

01:18:55Get the number.

01:18:58Get the number.

01:19:00Tyree, clearly this was not how you wanted your relationship with Carmella

01:19:04to turn out, but you have an amazing outlook on love

01:19:08and we know you'll find someone who will make you very happy.

01:19:14Well, Amelia, thank you so much for being here and speaking with us.

01:19:18And, of course, we also appreciate all the work you did behind the camera

01:19:23for this show.

01:19:25We have reached the end of Before the 90 Days, The Couples Tell All.

01:19:31And I want to thank each and every one of you for sharing your thoughts

01:19:34and your lives with us.

01:19:36And thank you to our studio audience.

01:19:38I'm Shawn Robinson.

01:19:39We'll see you next time.

01:19:42Good-bye, everyone.

01:19:50Good-bye, everyone.

01:20:01I feel really relieved.

01:20:04I'm glad that I got this over with.

01:20:08I don't know that there's a possibility that Rosman and I will be together

01:20:11in the future, but, you know, I'm not going to just wait around, you know,

01:20:16until he's ready.

01:20:18And also, too, I'm kind of talking to someone else.

01:20:27I'm sorry, what?

01:20:29Rosman doesn't know, and I didn't want to hurt his feelings.

01:20:33So I didn't mention that.

01:20:38We'll see what the future holds, but right now I'm just happy.

01:20:47Yes.

01:20:48Oh, okay.

01:20:49I appreciate the ups and the downs today.

01:20:53With Violet, we have some really core things that we're different on.

01:20:58Good-bye, ladies.

01:21:03I don't necessarily see a future with her, but I don't know.

01:21:11I don't regret anything at all.

01:21:13I would do it again.

01:21:14I just, if I had the opportunity, I would do things a little bit different.

01:21:21Bring it in, bring it in, bring it in.

01:21:33Safe travels.

01:21:59The tell-all did something to my heart a little bit.

01:22:02Next up for Nicole and I, I have to, like, declutter my brain and my emotions,

01:22:07and I have to just really watch and see what happens in America.

01:22:12I want my daughters to give him an honest chance.

01:22:16I just hope that people can get to know him.

01:22:20I just know how my world views this relationship,

01:22:24and I just really hope that they can see the person that I know he is.

01:22:35I'm actually feeling pretty good.

01:22:37You know, in the end, I think, you know, Cleo and I had a very good resolution.

01:22:44Let's blow this popsicle stand.

01:22:48Yeah, she's sticking by me.

01:22:52And it was really great meeting the other cast members, and as far as, you know,

01:22:55my experience and the drama that was caused with this season, I think I'm totally redeemed.

01:23:04Made it out of the tell-all alive.

01:23:07What's next for me?

01:23:09I'm going to go home, sell everything I own, and get going to England.

01:23:16Good night, room. Good night, me.

01:23:21Our communication has to get better, and if it doesn't,

01:23:25I don't think we're going to be able to live in a van.

01:23:27I don't think we're going to be able to live together.

01:23:29I don't think we're going to be able to be in a relationship.

01:23:35Jasmine and I are very much in love, for sure, with no question about that.

01:23:39But this whole sex tape thing came up.

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