DANIEL SCIOLI QUIERE TRAER LA FÓRMULA 1 A LA ARGENTINA
En los últimos días, el Secretario de Turismo, Ambiente y Deportes de la Nación, ha generado anunciar en la apertura de la Feria Internacional de Turismo 2024, su intención de traer la Fórmula 1 de vuelta a la República Argentina. ¿Está Argentina preparada para este desafío?. Lo analizamos con el periodista deportivo, Juan Siciliano.
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00:00Sicilian, who is going to visit us, one of the most recognized journalists in motor sports, look at this.
00:05Brazil, November 3rd, three nights at $2,500.
00:10Yes, to go see Colapinto.
00:12But this is not the news.
00:15Wait for a camera to arrive.
00:16This is not the news.
00:21Then he grabs it with me.
00:22This is not the news.
00:23The news is that in the last few days, Daniel Scioli said that he wants to bring Formula 1 to the Argentine Republic.
00:29And that's where the debate arose in the automotive world.
00:31Is the Argentine Republic prepared to bring Formula 1, like its old custom?
00:39We are prepared to see ...
00:42Let's see, show me.
00:45Show me here.
00:46Is Scioli here? Give it to me.
00:50As we are thinking about the future, I want to take advantage of this framework, dear head of government, to ask you something.
00:58You have to finish the racetrack.
01:00I know that the racetrack is already underway to achieve Category 2.
01:04But we need to achieve Category 1 in the racetrack.
01:07And as I know that you are an intensive worker and you are going to achieve it,
01:10and I am going to take care of it, because I spoke to President Javier Milley,
01:15to bring Formula 1 back to Argentina.
01:18I have no doubt.
01:19And this is already underway, the conversations,
01:22to bring it to our country, which today allows us to think big,
01:26and allows us to articulate the electorate, as we are thinking about the future.
01:30Good.
01:31Juan Siciliano, how are you?
01:33How are you?
01:34I was having coffee in the morning, I hear this and I say, ah, ready.
01:38Are we trained as the Argentine Republic to bring Formula 1 to our country?
01:42No.
01:43What?
01:44If I have to give you a title, smoke.
01:46What?
01:47For me it's smoke.
01:49But can't you race in the Galvez?
01:51No.
01:52The autodrome in Buenos Aires?
01:53There are pictures of the autodromes, guys, show me.
01:55There are no conditions.
01:56To be specific, for Formula 1 to come,
01:59there has to be a reform that was made in the 90s with the autodrome in Buenos Aires.
02:03But if it was done in the 90s, it was already done.
02:05Yes, you have to throw everything away.
02:06How?
02:07That is, to knock everything down.
02:09It doesn't work in boxing, it doesn't work on the track,
02:11everything has to be revamped.
02:12FIAT security measures are very, very demanding.
02:16There is a degree called FIAT degree.
02:18Yes.
02:19The degree 1, which is the degree that FIAT requires you to bring the Formula 1.
02:23It doesn't work.
02:24There is one more fact that you can know.
02:25Look.
02:26Do you have the circuit?
02:27Yes.
02:28This is the Galvez course.
02:29The pilots didn't like that circuit, what was left.
02:30The Galvez course would use the 12.
02:329.
02:33The 9 or the 12.
02:34The 9.
02:35Of course.
02:36The 12 can also be used.
02:37Yes, also.
02:38The ideal would be to use the 12 or the 15.
02:40Yes, but the ...
02:41This is the Galvez.
02:42Yes.
02:43You come, you do the S of the deer.
02:45And you go to the bottom and you put the 15.
02:47Saloto.
02:48Curbon.
02:49Sure, sure.
02:50I mean, the 12 is that.
02:51You see.
02:52The 15.
02:53That is the Saloto, the Curbon Saloto.
02:54You come here to Ascari.
02:55The opposite straight, the one of a kilometer.
02:56Sure.
02:57Ascari.
02:58To the Ascari gondola.
02:59Down there.
03:00And if you do the 12, that is the gondola.
03:01Look, the one you're marking.
03:02The ski lift.
03:03And there you go to the fork.
03:04The fork and ...
03:05In 12, the ski lift is not done.
03:06No, no.
03:07No, no, in the 9 it is the ski lift.
03:08In the 9.
03:09And in the 15 it was done.
03:10What happens is that the 15 was closed due to a matter of safety for the pilots.
03:11We tell people.
03:17in the Autódromo de Buenos Aires, there are several routes and one of the routes allows,
03:22it depends on which route I use and how I use it, to form different types of circuit drawings.
03:26It would be a very serious mistake if you bring back to use the circuit,
03:29which one?
03:30The Mickey Mouse circuit, a very small circuit.
03:32Put me, there is a video of Galvez running the road tourism,
03:36anyone, let's put anyone, you can go running.
03:38Now, to see them for an aerial shot, all with the lake, all the Formula 1 would be fantastic.
03:44Now, what do you have to do to the Autódromo?
03:46Ale, we don't sell fantasy to people, we don't hallucinate.
03:49But he said they are going to invest money to do it.
03:52For me, it's smoke.
03:53Today, which country's Autódromo can host the Formula 1?
03:56None.
03:57Termas?
03:58And Termas, Termas...
03:59What is this, La Pedrera? Ah, Vigicum, Vigicum.
04:01That's Vigicum.
04:02Look, it's not just the Autódromo, Ale, but the infrastructure of the city,
04:07hotel, gastronomy.
04:08The boxes have to be all new.
04:10But Vigicum is new.
04:12Yes, but...
04:12Here is the grandstand with the boxes.
04:14No, but you can't stand it.
04:15It's a nice Autódromo, Vigicum, I've been to the mountains, why can't I stand it?
04:18Vigicum comes to run international motorcycling,
04:21but the thing is that the people who drive the Formula 1 are three times bigger than motorcycling.
04:25So, I can tell you...
04:26Well, wait, so, which city could host...
04:28Buenos Aires.
04:29Buenos Aires.
04:29Mar del Plata?
04:31No, but...
04:31They said a street in Mar del Plata.
04:33Well, at the time, it would be...
04:36That would be, of course, that would be the street in Mar del Plata, but...
04:40I mean, the investment that has to be made to convert it into a circuit,
04:44but the street in Mar del Plata would be five times bigger than the Autódromo.
04:48And close the city for three days.
04:49Of course.
04:49And who would put that money, in the same Formula 1?
04:54No, no, Formula 1 sells you the event, which is the race,
04:57and you have to make the investment to have the circuit to host it.
05:00But wouldn't it be like bringing a World Cup, bringing Formula 1?
05:03And in terms of money, it's more or less the same.
05:05I mean, it also gives you money.
05:06But it gives you money.
05:07No, yes, of course.
05:08Wait, there's the Pedrera too, Juan.
05:11Also.
05:11Look, there's the stadium in the middle, it's a great circuit, the Pedrera is wide.
05:15Exactly.
05:16The Pedrera could be.
05:17I'm going to tell you a phrase by Bernie Eccleston,
05:20that Bernie Eccleston is the inventor of Formula 1.
05:23One day they asked him where Formula 1 should race if it returns to Argentina.
05:28And Bernie said, you can't race anywhere other than Buenos Aires.
05:31Of course.
05:31Ah, look.
05:31For a matter of what?
05:33City infrastructure, housing...
05:34But the Autódromo in Buenos Aires is expensive, you have to do something new.
05:37And yes, but...
05:37How much does a new Autódromo cost?
05:40Yes, but...
05:40Yes, it's fine, but...
05:41It's asphalt, we get the asphalt, guys, we get the asphalt.
05:44Is it cheaper for you to make a new Autódromo
05:46than to move Formula 1 to a place where you don't have a place to stay?
05:49It's also another Argentina from when, surely, Eccleston said the phrase, right?
05:53I mean...
05:54Yes.
05:55Many other places also grew up.
05:57Still, it sounds strange to me what Scioli said, because we are in a country where there is no money.
06:01Well, but is it useful for Formula 1 to come to Argentina?
06:03This way, because maybe it's going to be a loose throw, huh?
06:05No, yes...
06:06To Argentina, to say...
06:07To Juan Carlos Formula 1.
06:09Is it useful to say, hey, there is an Argentine pilot who breaks it, a kid with the pinto breaks it,
06:13who already had a photo with some Argentines,
06:16visiting the circuits here in the country,
06:18he was seeing how the curves were here in the country.
06:21Is it useful for Juan Carlos Formula 1 to say, hey, I'm going to race in Argentina?
06:26Yes, of course.
06:26Formula 1...
06:27Oh, well, wait.
06:28Because that way it can't be a loose throw, huh?
06:30No, no.
06:30Formula 1 is useful to go to the country where you put the money to buy the race.
06:36Formula 1 is a business.
06:38Now, in Brazil, in Brazil, what's the name of the circuit?
06:41Carlos Pache.
06:42Carlos...
06:44How many differences does it have with Galvez?
06:46And well, it's a lot.
06:48It has all the safety measures and the infrastructure that Formula 1 asks you to run.
06:52Although it is an old racetrack...
06:54Now, people will be telling you that you are against car racing, Juan, because you are...
06:56No, no, I'm a realist, Ale.
06:59I would love to, but there, for example, with those boxes,
07:02Formula 1 cannot run.
07:03A street racer in Buenos Aires either, right?
07:04For July 9th, straight.
07:06As Menem wanted.
07:07Of course.
07:08No, you can't.
07:08The TC2000, the Super TC2000, ran, do you remember, on July 9th?
07:11And yes, but having the racetrack, you are going to do it on the street.
07:16How many days did you have to close Buenos Aires to...
07:18Of course.
07:19See?
07:20You have to clear everything.
07:21In the TC2000, it closed several days on July 9th and it was a mess with the people.
07:27Well, this is the Buenos Aires racetrack, you see?
07:29Here it is, look.
07:29All this has to be done anew.
07:31All this has to be done anew.
07:32You have to throw it and do it again.
07:33I like that the image, the robot girl left it, she left the image.
07:36Yes.
07:38The T1000, the one that wanted to kill Terminator.
07:41There is the fork and that is the main one.
07:44This is Termas de Río Hondo.
07:46Yes.
07:47Ah, Termas de Río Hondo.
07:48Thank you for informing me, the production is very good.
07:49This is Termas.
07:50This is Termas.
07:51The Termas circuit, which for me would be a boring circuit for Formula 1, right?
07:56Well, what Termas has is that it has the approval of FIA in terms of motorcycling.
08:03Of course, for motorcycles.
08:04It's closer, let's say.
08:05Exactly.
08:05After that, Termas has to house everything that moves Formula 1.
08:08You were telling me half a million people, Roberto.
08:10Yes, it depends on the most exaggerated of the cases, yes.
08:14But in Italy, for example, but if you don't have 300,000 between the three days.
08:19What place can house 300,000 people?
08:21Buenos Aires, nothing more?
08:21Buenos Aires.
08:24The racetrack doesn't have 300,000 people.
08:26No, it's the sum of the three days.
08:28Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
08:30Sunday is the day that there are more people here.
08:32Here, guys.
08:34And what is the problem of the two, Juan?
08:35That they are small.
08:37That they are small boxes and Formula 1 demands you.
08:39You have to demolish the boxes.
08:40Everything, you have to demolish it and do it again.
08:44And the track too, I don't know what circuit.
08:45They made it new on the 12th now.
08:47The 12th is new.
08:48The 12th is missing.
08:49But I don't know if it's new for Formula 1.
08:50That's why.
08:51It's narrow, right?
08:52As it is.
08:53You have to put all the measures on it.
08:54The pianos would have to be different.
08:57Exactly.
08:57They are pianos with water drainage.
08:58I mean, the pianos that are now in the Gulf are destroyed.
09:01It doesn't work, it doesn't work.
09:03What money would tourism leave the country?
09:06And well, it is an exhibition at the world level of Argentina.
09:09Watch out, because Amelie may be interested in this.
09:11Now, the issue is who puts ...
09:13There are a couple of companies out there that say,
09:14Hey, well, how much do you need?
09:1615 pesos.
09:17Well, take it.
09:18Ready.
09:18Yes, I mean, this would come from the hand of private investments.
09:21Like, I mean ...
09:21Well, but Amelie promotes private investment.
09:23It can be.
09:24You have a pilot that moves people at the Messi level today, huh?
09:28As it is.
09:28Well, but all that ...
09:29I mean, if today Colapinto is in Formula 1, it's all private.
09:32There is no government intervention.
09:34He didn't put a single peso, my law.
09:36No, no, well, but ...
09:37Well, but my law promotes ...
09:38IPF is the only one.
09:39Okay, but my law promotes that the private sector grows.
09:43Well ...
09:43It's not crazy to go crazy like that.
09:45Or the president can say to private companies,
09:46Hey, give Colapinto a hand, we're going to bring him to the country.
09:50Okay, but one thing is to encourage a pilot and put the money for a pilot,
09:53which is a certain amount, it is a very important sum.
09:56But the other is to reform the entire racetrack
09:59and bring the circus of Formula 1.
10:01It's a lot of millions of dollars.
10:02It's not two mangoes, it's a lot of money.
10:05Yes, I also say ...
10:07Look at what the circuit is, look.
10:08This is the kart track.
10:09Formula 1 could be running there.
10:12Look at Oscar Gálvez's fists.
10:14No, it has to be twice as many meters, at least kilometers.
10:18Those guys.
10:19No, what was shown there was the kart track.
10:21No, no, next to the kart track, but no, no, no.
10:22The images of the entrance, the arch.
10:24Yes, exactly.
10:25In its glorious years, Formula 1 was there.
10:27Yes, yes, but ...
10:28How do we get here, right?
10:29Ale ...
10:30There are the stands ...
10:30Look at the asphalt, all cracked, right?
10:32The asphalt is broken.
10:33This is new, made now anyway.
10:35Yes.
10:36This part is new, guys, please.
10:39The stands are good.
10:40Well, the parking lot would be the car house.
10:42The stands would have to be the new ones.
10:43I think it could ...
10:45We are also talking about the possible arrival of the Indy.
10:48It would be a ...
10:49It would be a previous step,
10:51as to prepare everything and then the Formula 1 arrives.
10:54The proof would be to have IndyCar,
10:56which is a very similar category,
10:57where Agustín Canapino was.
10:59Of course.
10:59Which is very similar, let's say, it's a ...
11:01Although the Indy runs ...
11:03At high speed, also at high risk.
11:05Exactly.
11:06They run in ovals too.
11:07They run in ovals,
11:08the Indy does not have the requirements of Formula 1,
11:10they run on circuits like Detroit, which is a disaster.
11:13But hey, it would be the pilot test for the Formula 1 front wing.
11:17And if it comes, what do you disguise yourself as?
11:20And I don't know, but I already tell you,
11:22for me, doing the numbers and being realistic,
11:26the private investment would have to be very large.
11:28And I don't know if today in Argentina
11:30there are an X amount of companies
11:33that put so much money to fix the racetrack ...
11:35It may be a company that appears new.
11:36Put Elon Musk, I told him,
11:37he tells me, he says,
11:38what a coward, Formula 1 and we pass a spaceship from above
11:40and they are running.
11:41What can you do?
11:42But, and who convinces Elon Musk?
11:44But he is interested, he was a fan of Colapinto.
11:47Maybe.
11:47Or not?
11:48Yes, but besides, it also seems to me ...
11:49Let's see, show me more money, show me, street.
11:51How?
11:51It is a good recognition to Colapinto too,
11:54to reassemble something here,
11:55because after so many years of not having an Argentine,
11:58running in Formula 1 ...
11:59The idea is good.
12:00This discussion was set up by Colapinto.
12:02Of course.
12:03Of course.
12:03Because Colapinto, we are discussing that they can go ...
12:05This is the Callejero de Mar del Plata, let's see.
12:07Check it out, look at what we are getting ...
12:10It's just going down,
12:12because the new robot,
12:13the new Fiesta Taxi.
12:15Of course, yes.
12:16We are ...
12:16Well, the circuit could not be this crazy for Formula 1.
12:20No, forget it.
12:20No, there ...
12:21Imagine what ...
12:22They all touch there.
12:23Exactly.
12:24Where it is, wait, don't take the camera, wait.
12:26Wait for the robot to follow me.
12:28There, that there is an arrow almost at the tip,
12:32they all crash.
12:32Now, what do the other Formula 1 drivers say?
12:35I just sent Beto, he didn't answer me,
12:36but let's say Alonso,
12:38that I usually talk to Alonso.
12:40Beto?
12:40He doesn't like it very much,
12:42a street racer where he has an arrow at the tip.
12:44No, just like that.
12:45That's a cartoon,
12:47it would be impossible, right?
12:49Here, look,
12:50the last race that was raced here was won by Schumacher.
12:53And the drivers didn't like it,
12:55because it's even slower than in Austria.
12:57It's very small, yes.
12:58It's very slow what there is.
12:59A circuit in Galvez.
13:00Yes, that circuit.
13:01What was left.
13:02What was left.
13:03Can you do something bigger?
13:04Yes, that's why,
13:05I mean, we just reviewed all the circuits,
13:07all the drawings that the Autodromo Buenos Aires has,
13:09and I think the ideal would be 12 or 15.
13:13The 12 is the one that the TC runs,
13:14which we just showed you,
13:15and the 15 is the 12 with the locked part inside, right?
13:19Yes.
13:20Now, we are putting,
13:21perhaps, the car in front of the horses, right?
13:24Because, let's see, with the Pinto still,
13:26we don't know if he's going to have a seat in Formula 1 next year.
13:29He can't not have it.
13:30Well, we all think he does,
13:32but today with the Pinto,
13:33next year he's under Formula 1,
13:35he doesn't have a contract yet,
13:37and we're thinking of bringing Formula 1.
13:39He can't not have it.
13:40That's why there's a big problem with this.
13:43But, well, he managed with the Pinto.
13:45No, no, I mean, there's a big problem
13:47with Formula 1 coming to Argentina.
13:49What the Pinto is doing is impressive.
13:51Of course.
13:52There's no precedent.
13:53There's no precedent.
13:54Reutemann.
13:55Well, there's more precedent in Villamor-Penales than with the Pinto.
13:58That's true.
14:00Poor guy.
14:01Juan, where do I see you tonight?
14:03At the top speed.
14:04Foxport.
14:05At 11 o'clock tonight.
14:06Are you going to talk about this?
14:07Sure, of course.
14:08And what are you going to say, Ion?
14:09Are you going to say the same?
14:10I'm not going to say the same thing,
14:11I think it's smoke.
14:12That Formula 1 in Argentina today is smoke.
14:14Do you want to stay a little longer?
14:15They're selling smoke.
14:16Yes, of course.
14:17I have an emergency, I have to go.
14:18Go.
14:19Stay.
14:20The woman-robot disconnected.
14:21Stay, Juan.
14:22That's the urgent one.
14:24It's disconnected.
14:26Don't you have one for me?
14:28They're going to make them for real.
14:30Ah, ok.
14:31Give me the urgent one.