Sports Room | Najeeb-ul-Husnain | ARY News | 1st October 2024
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00:00Hello and welcome to Sportsroom. I am your host Najeeb Ul Hasanain.
00:15A busy season of Nazreen Cricket is going on.
00:18First we covered the Champions One Day Cup and now after a few days we have a big test against England in the Test Series.
00:24We thought we should take a break and talk about hockey.
00:28For the past few decades, we have only seen disappointment in hockey.
00:33This time we have won a bronze medal in the Asian Champions Trophy.
00:37If these young boys work hard and focus and give a little importance to hockey, then our game can be much better.
00:47We have with us former Olympian Khalid Basheer.
00:50He is a penalty corner specialist of his time.
00:53Let's talk to him and find out how did hockey become so bad?
00:57And what should we do to make it better?
00:59Khalid, thank you very much for your time.
01:03Hello Najeeb.
01:05Khalid, I would like to start with the way Pakistan hockey team was playing in Asian Champions Trophy.
01:14Although we should have won the initial matches.
01:18Later on, we got a little hope that the boys are fighting.
01:21Now we have won a bronze medal.
01:25We are saying that this is an achievement.
01:27Otherwise, we are not even worthy of it.
01:32Najeeb, as far as the Asian Champions Trophy is concerned,
01:36and as far as Pakistan and Pakistan hockey is concerned,
01:40being a hockey player should always be with the flag of Pakistan and the team of Pakistan.
01:50It has always been and will always be.
01:53As far as this performance is concerned,
01:57Pakistan has been in the world championships three times.
02:01In the past, we have ruled the world.
02:04We have led Pakistan hockey in the world.
02:07So these tournaments like Asian Champions Trophy are the below belt if we discuss this tournament.
02:15And now we come to the tournament.
02:18We lost in the semi-final.
02:21The team that won in China is the 23rd ranking team of the International Hockey Federation.
02:27And we are the 16th ranking team at this time.
02:31Unfortunately, we were number 1, number 2, number 3, number 5 in 2008.
02:36Today, we have lost to that team.
02:39Being the 16th ranking team, we are the 23rd ranking team at the world level.
02:45And not only are we losing in the semi-final,
02:48but we are also losing in the friendly matches that we had before the tournament started.
02:53So I want to discuss that discussing this tournament is also below the belt.
03:00This is our level.
03:01This is not the status of the tournament.
03:03We have seen a golden era of hockey.
03:06You have been a part of that era.
03:08There were such great players.
03:10Pakistan's hockey was great.
03:11But now we have come so low.
03:13So let's talk about that.
03:15Mr. Khalid, tell me where did the destruction start?
03:18People say that former Olympians have caused the loss to hockey.
03:22Now you see, this circle is going round and round.
03:25Rana Mujahid, Asif Bajwa, the same 3-4 names.
03:28We had a lot of hope from Shahbaz Senior.
03:31Nothing happened.
03:32Pakistan's hockey kept getting worse and worse.
03:35He came in 2008.
03:37And then he kept taking turns.
03:39And he is still taking turns.
03:41It started in 2008.
03:43Now it has come to 2024.
03:45And this is what is rotating.
03:47And in his time, we went from 5th to 6th, from 2008 to 2024.
03:50We went up to the 16th ranking.
03:52And we have won the World Cup 3 times.
03:54We have won the Olympics 3 times.
03:57We went beyond participating in the World Cup and the Olympics.
04:03It didn't just end here.
04:05In fact, the qualifying rounds for the World Cup and the Olympics.
04:10We were also deprived of participation in that.
04:13This is our position.
04:14This is our performance.
04:16Between 2008 and 2024, we were destroyed.
04:19And these 3 people, whose names you have mentioned,
04:22and whose names I have told you,
04:24These 3 people came to power.
04:25Now you come to the other side.
04:27Pakistan was formed in 1947.
04:29We didn't get that much money till 2008.
04:31We got that much money from 2008 to 2024.
04:34And the use of that money,
04:36which happened, you have seen it on TV and media channels.
04:39There are 113 FIA auditors who are under inquiry.
04:43They are facing them.
04:45They are trying to suppress them.
04:47And then, the sitting Prime Minister,
04:50who was the V Prime Minister before the election,
04:53was ordered to end this federation.
04:57Get a new election.
04:59Get security.
05:00And get inquiry on these 113 FIA auditors.
05:04And bring a new system in the PSCF.
05:07Release them.
05:08Look, we come to the system.
05:11First, let's talk about the funds.
05:14You said a very beautiful thing.
05:16Since Pakistan became free,
05:18we haven't received as much money since 2008
05:20as we received from 2008 to 2024.
05:22So, we have heard so much about the funds.
05:27They cry all the time that they don't have money.
05:29They don't get their players' daily wages.
05:31They don't get their salaries.
05:32Before every event, there is a new chaos.
05:35This time, it has been said that
05:36tickets were taken on loan.
05:38If the world would have listened,
05:39what image would Pakistan have?
05:42That we don't have money to give our players.
05:47Mr. Najeeb, what you are saying,
05:51what you have heard,
05:52what you have said,
05:53it is not true.
05:55It is based on lies.
05:56They lie that they don't have money.
05:58They just say that they don't have money.
06:01The money they get, they eat.
06:03There are no two opinions on this.
06:05They got the money.
06:06Where did the money go?
06:09You tell me.
06:10The boys don't get their daily wages.
06:12Congress meetings, they don't get their daily wages.
06:14Where does the money go?
06:15The money goes to the coaches.
06:17They select the boys.
06:19They make conditions.
06:21That they will be given money.
06:23And then they take it back from them.
06:24This is the kind of white collar crime they do.
06:26Secondly, you talked about loan tickets.
06:29And you said that
06:30they have made a mess of loan tickets.
06:32Everything is a lie.
06:33Everything is fraud.
06:34If they have gone on loan tickets,
06:36then this PHF,
06:38who is the so-called president,
06:41why didn't he go to take it?
06:43What does this have to do with hockey?
06:45He doesn't even know about hockey.
06:47The next question was this.
06:48In this Asian Champions Trophy,
06:51it was their own helplessness.
06:53Maybe that's why they didn't go.
06:54Before that, they are going everywhere.
06:56They went to the 8 Nation Tournament in Poland.
06:59They went there too.
07:00They don't have money.
07:01They spent crores of rupees on travelling.
07:04Their President PHF
07:06had gone to China for this event.
07:08What was his job?
07:10I mean, I don't understand all this.
07:13I will explain it to you.
07:15I am in the middle.
07:16I am Raha.
07:17You said that he went to Poland for this tour.
07:20Or one of his presidents has gone to China.
07:23If these are loan tickets,
07:25then why do they go there?
07:27They only lie.
07:29And what is the President's job?
07:31He doesn't even know about hockey.
07:33He doesn't even know about hockey.
07:35It is non-technical.
07:36And before that,
07:37on the Poland tour,
07:39he went to the Jalli Sector.
07:41He went with them.
07:42And he says to the people
07:44that what we are buying,
07:46what we are buying daily,
07:48everything is based on lies.
07:50All these so-called Jalli bogus laws
07:54are written in Jalli papers.
07:56There is no law according to which
07:58they take daily allowances.
08:00They lie.
08:01These daily allowances
08:02are not based on any law.
08:04There are no laws.
08:05These bogus people
08:06call them,
08:07get them signed,
08:08and they pass these bogus laws
08:10themselves.
08:11And this is what the Prime Minister
08:13had ordered.
08:14He had ordered that
08:15there should be security,
08:16new elections should be held,
08:17the system of PHO should be rectified,
08:19and the 113 members of the FIA
08:21should be inquired.
08:22The sports board should be ordered.
08:23But at that time,
08:24the Pakistan sports board...
08:26Mr. Khalid, tell me
08:27what is the solution to this?
08:28All this corruption that has happened...
08:30Now we come to the...
08:33Yes, yes.
08:34The solution to this
08:35is that I am hopeful
08:37that the new DGs,
08:38Mr. Yassir Peerzada,
08:39Mr. IPC Secretary,
08:41Mr. Rana Mashood,
08:42Mr. Rana Sinala,
08:43Mr. Prime Minister,
08:44I am hopeful that
08:45these people,
08:46this team,
08:47will come towards
08:48the improvement of this.
08:49And the Prime Minister's orders
08:51of the new election security,
08:52the FIA's inquiry against them,
08:54and the rectification of the new system,
08:56will be implemented.
08:58And these people
08:59will be cleared of this filth.
09:01They should be removed
09:02immediately from the population.
09:04And new people,
09:06transparent people should be brought in
09:08who can improve Pakistan's hockey
09:10and make Pakistan's hockey
09:11a World Cup and Olympic champion again.
09:14Okay, okay.
09:15Let's take a short commercial break here.
09:17We will come back after the break
09:18and will continue the discussion with us.
09:22Welcome back once again,
09:23former Olympian,
09:24Mr. Khalid Bashir is with us.
09:25We are talking to him.
09:27We just talked about funds
09:29and how the system can improve.
09:32Let's talk a little about hockey.
09:34And Mr. Khalid,
09:35if we don't talk about penalty corners
09:37while you are here,
09:38then this is unfair.
09:39All the penalty corners Pakistan has missed
09:42in this Asian Champions Trophy,
09:44this should be a record itself.
09:47So, what is the reason
09:49we are very weak on penalty corners
09:51and we don't even know how to take penalty shootouts.
09:54The new way of penalty shootout,
09:56we get badly exposed in this every time.
09:58What do you say?
09:59The reason for this is
10:01that the right man on the right job
10:03is neither in the Pakistan Hockey Foundation
10:05nor in the management and coaching
10:07of the Pakistan Hockey Team.
10:08They bring people of their choice
10:11and appoint them.
10:13They get international and domestic billings
10:17from them.
10:19And they use them
10:21when there is criticism on them.
10:24They appoint them to defend them.
10:27If they are coaches and professionals,
10:30management professionals,
10:32then they will train the boys
10:34in the right way.
10:36This will ultimately improve
10:38the performance of the boys.
10:40Penalty corners will be better.
10:42All the movements will be better.
10:44All the deals will be better.
10:45And the results will also be better.
10:47I have answered your question
10:48in two ways.
10:49You tell me,
10:50national sport is hockey
10:52and the interest of the public
10:54in Pakistan is negligible.
10:56They don't even know.
10:57We did a segment once
10:59in which we asked the public
11:01who is the captain of the hockey team.
11:03And no one knew.
11:04We asked 15-20 people.
11:06None of them knew
11:07who is the captain of the team.
11:09So, how can we bring back
11:11the interest of the public
11:13to hockey?
11:15Look, Mr. Najeeb,
11:17how can we bring back
11:19the interest of the public
11:21to hockey?
11:23Mr. Najeeb,
11:25we have to give interaction.
11:27In today's world,
11:29without money,
11:31no one can get
11:33any assignment done.
11:35So, until the boys
11:37get a handsome award,
11:39when they don't have jobs
11:41in the sports institutions,
11:43how will they get
11:45any attraction or incentive?
11:47So, which parents will bring
11:49their kids to hockey?
11:51So, there is only one way.
11:53I have already told you.
11:55If a man is not in the right position,
11:57then this can't be done.
11:59Look, Mr. Khalid,
12:01money is not a commercial sport.
12:03But, in your time,
12:05there were jobs
12:07which attracted parents and players.
12:09In today's world,
12:11which parent will tell his kid
12:13to play hockey?
12:15If we go to a store,
12:17the hockey stick is either
12:19in the dustbin
12:21or not in the shop.
12:23People who play hockey in Pakistan
12:25are probably in the hockey team.
12:27So, there is a need to change this.
12:29And for this, jobs.
12:31The Prime Minister had promised
12:33that players will get
12:35job notifications soon.
12:37So, does our federation have
12:39the courage to ask
12:41what you promised?
12:43As far as you have talked,
12:45when we used to play,
12:47we didn't have money.
12:49But now, we have a lot of money.
12:51Now, we have millions of rupees.
12:53Where did those millions go?
12:55This is the problem.
12:57Why weren't millions given to the boys?
12:59Millions were given to some people.
13:01Four people developed themselves.
13:03No one is promoting
13:05school hockey.
13:07No one is playing from the ground.
13:09No talent is coming from anywhere.
13:11The same players
13:13that have been seen since 2017-18
13:15are coming out.
13:17No work is being done on new talent.
13:19If there is no development,
13:21where will all the money go?
13:23You ask.
13:25You are a media person.
13:27Since 2008, I have said
13:29that till 2024,
13:31there are orders from the Prime Minister.
13:33There are 113 audits.
13:35The FIA has made audits
13:37on them.
13:39They pressurize them.
13:41And the DG of this Pakistan Sports Board,
13:43Yasir Peerzada,
13:45Rana Sanala, Rana Mashood
13:47and the secretary of IPC,
13:49all these things have been done before them.
13:51And at that time, the people of the sports board
13:53were also involved.
13:55So, where did the money go?
13:57So, you press media people
13:59should also pursue it.
14:01Why is the inquiry
14:03not completed
14:05for the money
14:07made by the corruption?
14:09And for this,
14:11I appeal to the Government of Pakistan
14:13Prime Minister
14:15that the Pakistan Sports Board
14:17at that time,
14:19which was 1.5-2 years ago,
14:21the Prime Minister's order
14:23was thrown in the dustbin.
14:25There was no election,
14:27nor did the money used
14:29in the corruption FIA cases
14:31was also thrown in the dustbin.
14:33The PHF along with the sports board
14:35threw it away.
14:37Mr. Khalid, tell me
14:39that if you get a chance,
14:41will you change these things?
14:43Do you want to come into politics?
14:45Do you want to work?
14:47Do you want to see things in the right way?
14:49Because it is easy to complain
14:51from outside.
14:53When you have to go inside
14:55and do all this work,
14:57it is a little difficult.
14:59What will you say?
15:01Look, as a Pakistani
15:03and as a world,
15:05I have got fame,
15:07I have got fame in the world
15:09because of hockey.
15:11We should give good services to hockey.
15:13We should improve the hockey of Pakistan.
15:15The team of Pakistan
15:17and the youngsters,
15:19we should think about it
15:21at the nursery level.
15:23All the big names of Pakistan
15:25who have got fame because of hockey,
15:27they should come in the middle.
15:29They should be involved.
15:31They should give their services.
15:33But for that,
15:35there is a good atmosphere.
15:37When there are good,
15:39good people can come and work.
15:41Thank you very much Khalid Bashir
15:43for being with us.
15:45Obviously, there is a lot of disappointment.
15:47When we feel so sad,
15:49those who have served Pakistan,
15:51they must be worried
15:53seeing the condition of hockey.
15:55That's all for today's program.
15:57Give your host Najeeb-ul-Hasnain permission.
15:59Take care of yourself. Allah Hafiz.