The government’s axing of winter fuel payments has been a controversial move, what would you have got rid of or cut back on instead, in order to keep winter fuel payments this year? With some bills now increasing but others decreasing, would you still consider us to be in a cost of living crisis and why?
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00:00Well, actually, no, I actually don't find it that controversial, partly because it's means tested.
00:06I know several people, sort of in my parents' generation, who were entitled to the winter fuel
00:12payment, but are actually in the bracket, which means they wouldn't get it. And I might be wrong
00:19about how accurate the means testing is in terms of who would be exempt. But to me, it actually
00:26does make sense, because there are a lot of people who would be eligible for it, who actually don't
00:32need winter fuel payments. There are definitely people who do, and whether that assessment is
00:37made at the right point is probably the question. So some bills are increasing,
00:41and others are decreasing. Do you still think we're in a cost of living crisis?
00:46Oh, God. Well, I think it's...
00:49It's...
00:53Something's happening. It always does. But I don't think I've...
00:55I won't live long enough to experience it and look back and say, I remember when...