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"Hukumat lawyer aur Judges say Takar Lene Jarahi aur wo inko Qabu..." Fawad Chaudhry's Analysis
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"Hukumat lawyer aur Judges say Takar Lene Jarahi aur wo inko Qabu..." Fawad Chaudhry's Analysis
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00:00I think that the establishment and the government, who have given an opinion, have not yet gone into the details of what the repercussions will be on us.
00:23For example, the three Bar Associations of Islamabad have said that they will not accept this.
00:29They have taken a very strict position.
00:31Kashif, have you seen the entire movement of Iftikhar Chaudhary?
00:35Have you seen the position of Balochistan Bar?
00:37Bilawal was standing in front of them and he stood up and said that we do not agree.
00:40It is not at all possible that this lawyer's movement should not be formed.
00:44And I spoke to a judge, a former judge.
00:48He said that this is where the movement is made.
00:51The Pakistan Bar Council is at a higher level.
00:56They will also come. They also have elections.
00:59They have said that there will be elections.
01:01They have said that there will be elections in the next three months.
01:03The PTI movement could not be formed and is still not being formed.
01:05Why is it not being formed?
01:06There is no organization.
01:07What is there in lawyers?
01:08People are organized to the last detail.
01:11What happened in Bangladesh?
01:12In students, we say that there was no such movement.
01:15The entire student organization was formed from top to bottom.
01:19The Bar Councils have been formed here.
01:21The government is making a mistake.
01:23It has taken a blow from the PTI with a lot of public power.
01:27It has not been able to handle it for two years.
01:29Now they are going to take a blow from an extremely organized group of lawyers and judges.
01:34Azam is like a brother to me.
01:37And all the people of the Bar Council.
01:39Obviously, we are their group.
01:41All our politics have always been with them.
01:44But I can assure you that they will not be able to control anyone.
01:47You can try anything.
01:48You can plot anything.
01:50You can do this, you can do that.
01:52But they will not be able to control it.
01:53A lot of statues were made by Mr. Chowdhury some time ago.
01:57How does it happen in Pakistan?
02:03In Pakistan, it is like this.
02:05In the past two years, you have made a lot of culture.
02:10People come to your programs and say that power speaks to power.
02:14They don't realize that you have not accepted it.
02:17Didn't we say this?
02:19Yes, we said this.
02:20I watch Game of Thrones a lot.
02:22Then they say that we don't accept it.
02:25We want acceptance.
02:27They don't realize that ultimately you need a moral edifice.
02:32Any army in the world needs a moral edifice because it is all about standing on honor.
02:39But our institutions, be it the Supreme Court, be it the army, be it the bureaucracy, be it the media,
02:45they all need a moral edifice.
02:47You need moral authority for your functions.
02:50These people, the intellectuals,
02:53No matter what the law says, Mr. Fawad,
02:55how can you say morally that it is okay to be a pawn?
02:58How can anyone say that?
02:59Yes, the law allows it.
03:01How can you justify it?
03:02In this case, it is very naked.
03:04First, you added all the decisions that affect the assembly on the number game.
03:13First, you recounted the seats.
03:17You had them re-elected.
03:21Then you put them on this bench.
03:23And everyone knows that...
03:24If your brothers and sisters were saying that you should not listen to a party's case,
03:27what difference would it make?
03:28Do you remember what they used to say about Mr. Banjal?
03:30They used to say, don't listen to it.
03:31It will make a difference to someone else.
03:33Then you saw an ordinance.
03:35It has not yet dried up.
03:37You implemented it and made a committee.
03:40So, the problem here is that there is no moral edifice.
03:44Forget morality.
03:45Morality does not matter in this country, Mr. Fawad.
03:47But the argument of total control...
03:49It matters to people.
03:50But the struggle for total control...
03:52What is the real problem?
03:53You need total control.
03:54You don't have to.
03:55You don't have to, but you have to try.
03:57Every institution should be under one thumb.
03:59Yes.
04:00This is everyone's wish.
04:02Whenever there is a dictatorial rule...
04:04This used to happen during our time as well, right?
04:06This is what people try to achieve.
04:07We have the ECP, we have the Chief Justice.
04:10We have the brothers.
04:11I don't want to kill them.
04:13This is what people try to achieve.
04:15But people don't realize that this power is like sand in the hand.
04:20The more you press the thumb, the faster the sand comes out.
04:23You cannot say that Pakistan is 800-900 years behind.
04:29This is how kings used to decide.
04:31I said this in a program today.
04:32I said, you want to create kings.
04:34You want to create kings.
04:36This is not going to happen.
04:38People's Party, look at it.
04:40I am always worried.
04:42What will Bilawal get?
04:43Can he become the Prime Minister?
04:45Post Benazir, he has never had such an alimia
04:48that Bilawal Bhutto or Zardari
04:51has ever taken a moral stand.
04:54He has continued that.
04:56The reporters who met Bilawal Bhutto yesterday
04:58and later I spoke to many people.
05:00They said, we clearly feel that Bilawal does not know
05:03how the judiciary and institutions are made,
05:06how judges come and how they stand.
05:09What is the relationship between the Constitutional Court and the Supreme Court?
05:14Can I take a break, Fahad?
05:15But tell me,
05:17maybe they don't even know that
05:19the Parliament is talking about the total supreme.
05:21No, no.
05:22These are checks.
05:24Just read the speech of Bilawal Bhutto.
05:28We will talk about it after the break.