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00:00Mr. Bilal, first of all, tell us about the PTI protest.
00:03It was a one-day protest, but it changed in a few days.
00:06There were so many containers, the roads were closed.
00:08Is this policy working for you all?
00:11In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
00:12Ms. Sadaf, thank you very much for inviting me to your show.
00:15First of all, before coming to this topic,
00:18the unfortunate incident that took place the other day in North Waziristan,
00:22where six of our soldiers were martyred.
00:25I would like to express my condolences to them.
00:28Today, I am sure that the entire community is saddened by this.
00:33This is a war against terrorism.
00:35Lieutenant Colonel Muhammad Ali was a martyr.
00:38Lance Colonel Muhammadullah,
00:40Lance Colonel Akhtar Zaman,
00:42Lance Colonel Shahidullah,
00:44Lance Colonel Yusuf Ali,
00:46and Jamil Ahmed were all martyred.
00:50Today, you saw that they were buried.
00:52The Army Chief also participated in this.
00:54I would like to express my condolences to them.
00:56I would like to express my condolences to all the soldiers,
00:58including the police, law enforcement agencies,
01:00and all the soldiers of the Pakistan Army.
01:02I would like to express my condolences to all of them
01:04who are risking their lives every day
01:06for the safety and security of our country and all of us.
01:10The PTI that you mentioned today,
01:14and the tradition that has been formed
01:17of the spread of violence,
01:20I think this is a very categorical message.
01:24The government and the Interior Minister
01:26gave this message that
01:28we cannot entertain this violent intention again and again.
01:34Earlier, they were allowed to attend the Jalsas.
01:36The Jalsas failed.
01:38During the Jalsas, they also spread violence.
01:40This time, in the name of protest,
01:42during the visit of the Malaysian Prime Minister,
01:45the SCO is coming,
01:47the Chinese Premier is coming,
01:49and so on and so forth.
01:51So, keeping the previous tradition in mind,
01:53the PTI has done the same things again.
01:55Today, you saw that the Interior Minister
01:57from the press talk,
01:59he also said that
02:01about 80 to 85 police soldiers
02:03have been tear-gassed
02:05by the CM Gandapur caravan,
02:07and there has even been firing.
02:09And 80 to 85 soldiers
02:11have been injured by the police.
02:13More than 120 people have been arrested.
02:15Afghan nationals have also been arrested.
02:17So, these are all very disturbing things.
02:19And in the same way,
02:21the kind of violence
02:23that has been shown earlier,
02:25we are repeatedly told that
02:27we are not from the 9th.
02:29But they are trying to prove themselves
02:31that they are from the 9th.
02:33So, today we have...
02:35No, look, these are the same questions.
02:37The government of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
02:39now this state machinery,
02:41Ali Ameen Gandapur Sahib,
02:43is repeatedly using the government of Punjab,
02:45and this question arises
02:47that where are they getting
02:49so much tear gas and these things from?
02:51Are these state things
02:53that are available with Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
02:55are they using it against the loyal government?
02:57So, in my opinion,
02:59this is regrettable too,
03:01but unfortunately,
03:03the person who is in jail,
03:05he has appointed Ali Ameen Gandapur
03:07as the CM for this work.
03:09Today, you see that Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
03:11is in a wave of terrorism there.
03:13I told you about the incident
03:15where the army of Pakistan
03:17carried out an intelligence-based operation.
03:19There are other terrorist incidents
03:21taking place there,
03:23but the attention of the CMKP
03:25is not focused on that.
03:27The attention of the CMKP
03:29is not focused on the governance issues
03:31of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
03:33on education and health.
03:35Their single point agenda,
03:37which Imran Khan has given them,
03:39is that you use the state machinery
03:41when you were in opposition,
03:43there were protests,
03:45you were invited openly.
03:47You try to stop
03:49every protest,
03:51whether it is in Lahore or somewhere else.
03:53They say, because you are afraid,
03:55what kind of a government is this?
03:57So many containers have been placed
03:59and the citizens are also very worried.
04:01One day's thing goes away in days.
04:03So, what is the achievement?
04:05Yes, Mr. Sadaf,
04:07believe me,
04:09even the city administration
04:11does not like or want
04:13a container to be placed.
04:15We have an idea of this.
04:17Frankly, as a citizen,
04:19I am affected by this.
04:21But the compulsion is that
04:23whether it is the Punjab government,
04:25the Punjab police,
04:27or the Lahore administration,
04:29or the Wafaa government in Islamabad,
04:31the protection of the public
04:33and private property
04:35of the citizens is the primary responsibility.
04:37And the difference is that
04:39we held the Jalsa,
04:41which was your original question.
04:43But the right to protest
04:45does not do mischief.
04:47You have seen the difference.
04:49In Islamabad, they got permission
04:51to hold a Jalsa.
04:53On the day of Lahore,
04:55they got permission to hold a Jalsa.
04:57All the roads were open,
04:59the motorway was open,
05:01the GT road was open,
05:03the Lahore ring road was open.
05:05This time, they again threatened.
05:07And if you remember,
05:09on the day of Islamabad Jalsa,
05:11they abused the journalists.
05:13They abused the women.
05:15If we talk about the current situation,
05:17has the government arrested them?
05:19Look, as far as I know,
05:21there is no arrest yet.
05:23I saw the media reports
05:25and as far as I know,
05:27they are still in the KP house.
05:29I think there is enough reason
05:31to arrest them.
05:33They have committed crimes
05:35as they have repeatedly
05:37violated the law.
05:39Not only today,
05:41but also on the day of Islamabad
05:43and Lahore Jalsa.
05:45When you use state machinery
05:47and attack Wafaaq,
05:49the administration,
05:51the police,
05:53then there is a reason.
05:55If it was any other city,
05:57everyone would have said
05:59that there is an arrest.
06:01Last week, I informed you
06:03that maybe they are in the KP house.
06:05Look, this is not shameful at all.
06:07And all of this is being done
06:09on Imran Khan's behest.
06:11Whoever speaks
06:13in his community,
06:15he is shut down or sidelined.
06:17Imran Khan wants
06:19Ali Ameen Ghandapur Pali's actions.
06:21He praises him on that.
06:23He wants his tongue.
06:25He wants his threats.
06:27In this situation,
06:29there is a fundamental
06:31contention.
06:33Should the matter be put off for a few days?
06:35Look, a constitutional amendment
06:37is the right of a parliament.
06:39A constitutional amendment is such
06:41that until there is a broad consensus,
06:43to the extent that the majority
06:45is separate in the National Assembly
06:47and in the Senate,
06:49it is not possible.
06:51For that, there is a discussion
06:53between the parties.
06:55People's Party, JUI,
06:57will have a discussion
06:59when that matter
07:01will be agreed upon
07:03to the extent of the majority.
07:05This cannot be on the wishes of the PTI.
07:07Judges cannot be on the wishes of the PTI.
07:09The system of the state cannot be changed
07:11on the wishes of the PTI.
07:13There is no end
07:15to their wishes.
07:17Therefore, the parties in the parliament
07:19will continue their work.
07:21That is a different matter.
07:23All the controversy
07:25that was not shared,
07:27the controversy that has been shared,
07:29you have just observed Mr. Manchodan's speech.
07:31These issues can be addressed
07:33one by one.
07:35Look, these are the people
07:37who will oppose whatever we say.
07:39Opposition is a bad opposition.
07:41They know that
07:43inflation has reached
07:45the lowest level in four years.
07:47They know that the prices of petrol
07:49and diesel are less than February.
07:51They know that in the United Nations
07:53there was a successful speech.
07:55They know that this month
07:57there is a conference of the SCO.
07:59This month there is a visit of the Chinese Premier.
08:01They are actually bothered by these things.
08:03Therefore, whatever issue
08:05they can make, they will make.
08:07Otherwise, they lose their attention.
08:09This is attention-seeking behavior.
08:11All their politics is based on this.
08:13And look, as far as
08:15their safeguards are concerned,
08:17we have talked about it
08:19on the Constitutional Court.
08:21This is a very constructive view.
08:23We have talked about
08:25parliamentary representation
08:27in the Judicial Commission of Pakistan
08:29so that the representation
08:31of the Parliament increases
08:33in the Judiciary.
08:35We have proposed this
08:37on behalf of two members of the Treasury
08:39and two members of the Opposition.
08:41If anyone finds anything wrong in this,
08:43please let us know.
08:45Parliamentary representation
08:47in the Judiciary is a better thing.
08:49They have a problem with this
08:51because they want
08:53good-to-CEO courts.
08:55The 63-A judgment
08:57was completely wrong.
08:59It was contrary to the Constitution.
09:01It was a rewriting of the Constitution.
09:03The Supreme Court has now corrected it.
09:05The extent to which it was written
09:07in the Constitution, it is the same.
09:09But morally,
09:11you said it was a rewrite.
09:13This is the opinion of many people.
09:15But morally, there should not be
09:17a rewrite of the Constitution.