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00:01Tonight's Hatsumimigaku 2-hour special is...
00:05Wow!
00:07Hatsumimigaku is amazing!
00:09The figure skater Shoma Uno's bare face...
00:14The sound of the morning bell...
00:17Shoma Uno's precious childhood memories...
00:22And...
00:23Shoma Uno's little brother...
00:25He makes good use of me.
00:28Shoma Uno and his little brother...
00:32And...
00:34I don't think I've ever done anything with confidence.
00:37I know. It's the first time I've ever had confidence.
00:40The strongest marketer who talks about useful things in life...
00:44Morioh Katsuyoshi's passion for high school students...
00:49I want a lot of students to see this video.
00:53It's a video that shows a specific solution.
00:56Now, it's time for 2-hour stories that Japanese people should hear.
01:03First, interviewer Osamu Hayashi.
01:09He's been to the top of the world many times.
01:11This year, he announced his retirement.
01:15He started his second life.
01:19That charisma!
01:27Shoma Uno, a professional figure skater, 26 years old.
01:39He won a silver medal at the 2018 Pyeongchang Olympics.
01:48And he won a bronze medal at the 2022 Beijing Olympics.
01:53He won a bronze medal at the Olympic Games.
01:56In addition, he won the world championship for the first time in Japan.
02:03Shoma Uno, a top figure skater who has accomplished many great things.
02:09Yuzuru Hanyu, who has been chasing his back since childhood.
02:16Mao Asada, who brought him into the world of figure skating.
02:21There were two benefactors.
02:28Shoma Uno and Osamu Hayashi are from Nagoya.
02:34In fact, they have had an unexpected relationship since a long time ago.
02:38Do you remember?
02:40A long time ago, a friend of mine joined us.
02:44There was a very promising figure skater.
02:47He asked me if I could get his autograph.
02:50And I gave it to him.
02:55I remember.
02:57I've been watching you on TV since I was a kid.
03:02I thought it was now.
03:06My mother's friend.
03:08That's probably my classmate.
03:12I've been decorating it at home in Nagoya.
03:14He sent me a picture of Uno.
03:17I was really happy at that time.
03:20Do you still live in Nagoya?
03:22I live in Nagoya.
03:24I also live in Nagoya.
03:28You said you like sweets.
03:30I like it very much.
03:31There is a bakery called Tailor Tail.
03:34I think I've eaten it before.
03:38I know.
03:41In May of this year, he announced on his SNS that he had been a skater for 21 years.
03:50The people around me supported me so that I could do what I wanted to do.
03:56I think I was happy.
04:00In fact, he retired at the age of 26.
04:04He said he was influenced by someone he admired.
04:09I thought you could still do it.
04:13Did you think you could do it?
04:17Yes.
04:18I think I was more enthusiastic than I was two years ago.
04:29I want to be a skater who can compete with people like Yuzuru Hanyu and Chie.
04:36I want to be a skater who can compete with people like Yuzuru Hanyu and Chie.
04:41That's my biggest motivation.
04:43Those two people passed away two years ago.
04:48I was a little lonely, but I didn't have a choice but to quit.
04:54He decided to retire because of his rivals.
05:01What kind of person is Yuzuru Hanyu to you?
05:06I always call him Yuzu.
05:10He is the ideal athlete that everyone imagines.
05:18I've been chasing after Yuzu's back all the time.
05:23I've been sending him skateboarding all my life.
05:25That's how I got here.
05:28As his rivals left the competition one by one,
05:33the fever in Shoma Uno gradually went down.
05:39What I can't forget about his career is
05:43when he was 20 years old, he competed with Yuzuru Hanyu, whom he admired.
05:56The Pyeongchang Olympics.
05:59In this competition, Shoma Uno won a silver medal for the first time in the Olympics.
06:07And Yuzuru Hanyu...
06:13Yuzuru Hanyu
06:16Yuzuru Hanyu
06:19Yuzuru Hanyu
06:22Yuzuru Hanyu
06:25Yuzuru Hanyu
06:28He won a gold medal following the Sochi Olympics.
06:32He achieved a consecutive victory.
06:36Yuzuru Hanyu is a rival and admirer of Shoma Uno.
06:42He said he was inspired by his skating style.
06:48I think Hanyu is a very stoic person.
06:53He's so stoic that I think it's impossible for me.
07:00So Hanyu was a role model for Shoma Uno.
07:04There was a time when I thought I had to be like Yuzu.
07:11I challenged myself to a competition with that in mind.
07:15Have you ever imitated him?
07:17Yes, I have.
07:18I was careful about my diet.
07:21The competition was overseas, so I had to prepare for it as soon as possible.
07:25I practiced a lot and did a lot of training before the competition.
07:31I was so full of myself that my expectations were too high.
07:37I just made a little mistake, and I was so depressed.
07:42You just finished it perfectly.
07:44I didn't have a good limit.
07:46Yuzuru Hanyu records all the points of reflection in practice in his notebook.
07:53He shows his stoic behavior, such as managing his meals thoroughly.
08:01On the other hand, Shoma Uno is...
08:06Game show.
08:08This image.
08:10This is interesting.
08:12I like this kind of image.
08:16He spends most of his time playing his favorite game.
08:20He goes to bed at 3 a.m. and goes to bed at night.
08:24It's the opposite of being stoic.
08:28It's hard for me to put pressure on myself and get over it.
08:35So I play games as much as I want, eat as much as I want, and go to bed as much as I want.
08:42I try to do my best in skating.
08:45No matter how good your style is, it doesn't matter if you imitate it or not.
08:52You said you eat what you like.
08:54I heard that you eat a lot.
08:57I eat what I like as much as I like.
09:01You always eat meat, don't you?
09:04Yes, I do.
09:05I hate vegetables.
09:08How much do you eat?
09:11I don't eat at all.
09:13But some people say that you have to eat vegetables.
09:18I used to eat vegetables when I was a kid.
09:21Before I got good grades.
09:24But when I got good grades, people didn't say anything to me.
09:28That's right.
09:30It's important to get good grades.
09:34It's hard to tell a world silver medalist to eat vegetables.
09:38I thought there was a way to do it.
09:42It says here that you eat eel in a unique way.
09:46I don't like eel very much, but I like rice with sauce.
09:51That's right.
09:54I think what people want to eat is the nutrition they want.
10:01It's a fat entertainer's way of thinking.
10:05It's almost the same as my mind.
10:10Since he was 18 years old, he has inherited a style that he believes in no matter what people say.
10:18As a result, he won two medals in the Olympics and two world championships in a row.
10:30Abe, do you have a senior you admire?
10:34I admire SHO SAKURAI of ARASHI.
10:38Why?
10:39I was worried about my group before my debut.
10:45When I graduated from university, he gave me a watch.
10:50I still wear it today.
10:52Show me.
10:54It's amazing.
10:56I can feel the taste of the belt I'm wearing.
11:01I wear it carefully.
11:04Who did you talk to about your retirement?
11:07Basically, it's up to me to decide.
11:13I talked to MAO ASADA about how to face skating in the future.
11:20Of course, I also talked to many other people.
11:24What kind of response did you get when you were consulted by MAO?
11:28I think you should choose the path you want to take.
11:32I was advised that figure skating can do a lot of things even after retirement.
11:39I was relieved to hear that MAO ASADA, who has been active for a long time, said so.
11:52In fact, MAO ASADA was the reason UNO started figure skating.
11:58I went to the Osu Skate Rink to play.
12:04While I was going to the Osu Skate Rink, MAO ASADA was practicing figure skating.
12:11He played with me a lot during the break.
12:17Such a great benefactor appeared this time for the sake of UNO SHOMA.
12:25SHOMA, it's been a long time. How are you?
12:29It's amazing.
12:31I've never heard of it before.
12:34They met when MAO ASADA was in the 6th grade and UNO SHOMA was 5 years old.
12:41What was their first impression of each other?
12:45I thought he was cute.
12:47Before I started figure skating, I was already a professional skater.
12:55At that time, I was skating with a general customer.
12:58I saw SHOMA skating happily even if he fell.
13:05At that time, SHOMA was in kindergarten.
13:08He was so small that his head didn't come out of the fence.
13:12His voice was so loud.
13:16He said, MAO, MAO.
13:19Anyway, he was cute.
13:22At that time, UNO, who was 5 years old, was not only interested in figure skating, but also ice hockey and speed skating.
13:29He was wondering which way to go.
13:33At that time,
13:35I told him to come to figure skating.
13:40He was invited by MAO ASADA.
13:45His life as a figure skater began.
13:49What do you remember about SHOMA when you were a kid?
13:54He was always crying.
13:57He cried when he couldn't do it.
14:01He cried when he fell.
14:03He cried when his mother scolded him.
14:05I remember that he was a crybaby.
14:09I always wanted SHOMA to be a figure skater who could be active in the world while thinking that he was invited.
14:2815 years later, the boy was a crybaby as MAO ASADA wished.
14:39In the Olympics, he won two medals in a row.
14:43He became the world's top figure skater.
14:47First, SHOMA talked about the backstage of the Olympics.
14:54In this corner, according to the image of the guest,
14:58Masaru Akai, the host, chooses flowers and designs them.
15:02This time, he chose the shape of a star called a blue star.
15:07The meaning of the flower is to trust each other.
15:09When he retired, people around him said thank you to him.
15:12He has a heart to trust people around him.
15:16That's why he chose this flower.
15:20It's a very rare flower.
15:22There are so many rare flowers.
15:2599% of the blue stars in Japan are like this.
15:31It's surrounded by flowers.
15:34In 2018, you and Hanyu finished in the 1st and 2nd place.
15:40What do you think about the silver medal result?
15:45I always think about it before the game.
15:49When everyone shows their ability, I imagine what rank I will be in.
15:57I knew I would never be in the first place.
16:01I want to be in the first place when everyone does their best.
16:04Figure skating is not about fighting directly with others.
16:08I want to be a person who can win when everyone does their best.
16:12That's been my goal since I was a kid.
16:18When everyone does their best, he can't be in the first place.
16:25However, the situation was different at the Pyeongchang Olympics.
16:32Uno Shoma and Keiji Tanaka were the representatives of Japan.
16:37In addition, Nathan Chen and Fernandez were aiming for the medal.
16:46On the first day, Uno Shoma did many difficult tricks in the short program.
16:51He was in the 3rd place.
16:54On the second day, he was in the last place in the pre-program.
17:00What did Uno Shoma think at that time?
17:04Everyone was in the last place.
17:08I knew I could win if I did my best.
17:16Uno Shoma thought that if he could finish his performance without mistakes,
17:23he would be able to win the gold medal.
17:28That's what Uno Shoma thought.
17:31But his final act...
17:46He fell down in the first 4-turn loop.
17:51I still remember that.
17:53He fell down in the first 4-turn loop.
17:56I want to know how he felt at that moment.
17:58Do you remember how you felt when you fell down?
18:01Yes, I do.
18:02I thought I could win if I did my best.
18:07I was smiling as I did my first jump.
18:11I fell down so hard that I couldn't catch my breath.
18:15It was so funny.
18:18I realized that the world is not so sweet.
18:22That's what you thought?
18:24Calm down.
18:26He was so excited.
18:27He fell down in the first jump.
18:29Unfortunately, he couldn't win the gold medal.
18:34Actually, Uno Shoma has been suffering from this jump
18:38in his skating life.
18:44Asada Maoh, who has been watching him since he was a child,
18:47noticed that.
18:49I thought he was very good at expression and performance
18:55since he was a child.
18:59I remember that he struggled a lot to jump.
19:05I remember that he couldn't jump well.
19:12But he didn't give up even though he fell down so hard.
19:19He stayed in the rink longer than anyone else.
19:25He is the master of practice.
19:30He never gives up.
19:32That's why he was able to jump triple axel,
19:35quadruple axel and so on.
19:41Uno Shoma couldn't jump well at that time.
19:46When I was a child, I struggled a lot to jump.
19:52It took me 4 or 5 years to jump one jump.
19:59It took you 5 years to jump double axel?
20:02Yes, it took me a long time to jump double axel and triple axel.
20:09I struggled a lot.
20:11Looking back, I remember that I jumped every day
20:15without giving up.
20:21Triple axel, also known as Asada Mao,
20:26is a difficult jump where you have to jump
20:30with one leg from a forward position,
20:34turn three times and land with the other leg.
20:41In order to make this jump successful,
20:45Uno Shoma practiced jumping more than 100 times in 2 hours.
20:52This is what I struggled with when I was skating.
20:56I thought I would never be able to jump.
21:00I think there are some kids who can't jump triple axel now.
21:07I was the only one who could jump triple axel.
21:11Uno Shoma couldn't jump for 5 years.
21:15He practiced every day, but he couldn't jump.
21:19It was very difficult at that time.
21:22How did you jump when you couldn't jump triple axel?
21:29I gave up once.
21:34I was weak in episode compared to my younger brother.
21:40Uno Shoma has the impression that he is a cheerful and honest person.
21:45But I don't think so.
21:48You should speak what you believe from the bottom of your heart.
21:54How did you jump when you couldn't jump triple axel?
21:58How did you jump when you couldn't jump triple axel?
22:02How did you jump when you couldn't jump triple axel?
22:05I gave up once.
22:09I gave up jumping triple axel.
22:12I stopped practicing triple axel.
22:15After half a year, I thought I'd give it a try.
22:20I was able to jump triple axel.
22:23I still think that effort is important.
22:29But I thought it would be over if I was satisfied with my effort.
22:40I gave up once.
22:43It was a chance to overcome the wall I had built.
22:47It was a chance to overcome the wall I had built.
22:52I realized that effort is not the only good thing.
22:57I realized that effort is not the only good thing.
23:03Uno Shoma completed triple axel in 5 years.
23:09Uno Shoma completed triple axel in 5 years.
23:17It is important to make an effort in the right direction.
23:21After learning this, he overcame the jump he was not good at.
23:27In 2016, he jumped a quadruple flip for the first time in the official tournament.
23:33As a male figure skater, he was recognized as the Guinness World Record.
23:41He is a Guinness World Record holder.
23:43Uno Shoma has a big gap.
23:46Uno Shoma has a big gap.
23:49Uno Shoma was like this when he was in the middle of the move.
23:56Uno Shoma was sexy and sexy.
24:00Uno Shoma's hand movement was amazing.
24:04Uno Shoma's hand movement was amazing.
24:08What is that?
24:10That's not right.
24:12If you tell me to be sexy, I don't want to be sexy.
24:15I'm sorry, Abe-chan.
24:20Did you start from this side?
24:22I did my best.
24:23I did my best.
24:29Next, Hayashi Osamu is approaching Uno Shoma's private life.
24:35Shoma was born with a weak body.
24:40Let's go home.
24:43He started playing sports when he was 5 years old to train his body.
24:49He played ice skating.
24:53Then, he was invited by King Asada.
24:56His figure skating life started.
25:01Did you always skate at home?
25:08Yes, I did.
25:09How many days a week did you train?
25:117 days a week.
25:13No days off?
25:14No days off.
25:15I was afraid of taking a day off.
25:20I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to skate the next day.
25:29So, I didn't take a day off.
25:33He went to school on weekdays and practiced from noon.
25:40He was obsessed with skating.
25:43So, he had a little problem.
25:48You were obsessed with skating.
25:52Did you think you were better than others?
25:58I only skated.
26:02I didn't think about anything else.
26:07I didn't care about the world.
26:10He devoted most of his time to skating.
26:16So, he felt that he didn't have enough social experience.
26:22There are many legends.
26:27We asked Ryuji Hino, who trained with him from junior high school to college.
26:36The first Uno Shoma legend.
26:42It was when he was a high school student.
26:46After the practice, they went home together for the first time.
26:51When they arrived at the station to get on the train,
26:56How do you get on the train?
27:00Really?
27:02He couldn't get on the train.
27:07I didn't know anything.
27:10I've never been on a train.
27:14One train is OK?
27:16It was difficult at first.
27:19I was surprised to see many trains going to different destinations.
27:24I thought everyone was amazing.
27:29You are amazing.
27:31The second Uno Shoma legend.
27:35It was when Shoma came to the skating rink to practice.
27:39Many seniors were practicing there.
27:42Shoma, who was a junior high school student, said,
27:45I'm tired.
27:47He couldn't say that at all.
27:50How do you feel?
27:52I was embarrassed.
27:55It was the most sorry thing I've ever done.
28:01There were only seniors there.
28:04But he talked to me so politely.
28:08I was so sorry.
28:10Have you ever been told how to talk?
28:15No, I haven't.
28:17When we were in the same age group,
28:21we were told to be careful because we couldn't use honorifics.
28:28So, we used honorifics.
28:30So, you didn't say thank you, but thank you.
28:33What about now?
28:35It's still a bad honorific.
28:39There was another story.
28:42When a senior who couldn't practice well at the training came to the rink,
28:47Shoma said,
28:49Then you should quit skating.
28:52It's too bad.
28:53He's doing a bad thing.
28:56It's not a good thing to say.
28:59I'm used to being myself now.
29:04I'm sorry for bothering so many people.
29:08It's just a house.
29:09It's good to be mischievous.
29:12The family who saw Shoma Uno for the first time
29:16came to the rink remotely.
29:21Actually, today,
29:23I'm connected with a person who knows Shoma Uno very well.
29:27Let's meet him.
29:29Hello.
29:31Nice to meet you.
29:33Nice to meet you, too.
29:36Shoma Uno's younger brother, Itsuki.
29:41The younger brother is 4 years younger than Shoma Uno,
29:44and they are so close that they still live together.
29:47This is Shoma Uno's testimony.
29:50What Shoma Uno doesn't seem to know on a daily basis is
29:54that there is a self-reggae at the supermarket.
29:58I don't think Shoma Uno can do all of that.
30:02I don't think he can do self-reggae.
30:05What do you think of his brother's prediction?
30:08I did it while asking the staff.
30:11You didn't do it by yourself?
30:13No, I didn't.
30:15Your brother's prediction is correct.
30:17That's good.
30:19Well,
30:21he came out with full confidence,
30:23but he has a weak episode.
30:25That's right.
30:27Brother.
30:28Brother.
30:29Do your best.
30:30Be strong.
30:31Your brother is telling you.
30:33I'll tell you something worse.
30:36When I went on a trip,
30:39I left home with a suitcase.
30:43I've seen him forget everything,
30:45such as clothes and suitcases.
30:48He didn't have anything.
30:50What did you take?
30:52I saw a scene where he had a suitcase in the news.
30:58Did you leave it there?
31:00Yes, I left it there and tried to leave without having anything.
31:05Do you remember that?
31:07It's not the first time.
31:09It's not the first time?
31:10I've seen it many times.
31:12I don't know why it happened to me.
31:15It has nothing to do with me,
31:18but I can't forgive my brother for coming out with full confidence.
31:24That's right.
31:25He has a weak episode.
31:28When I saw my brother's face,
31:32I got a headache.
31:34Brother, what do you think of Itsuki?
31:39I think they're both very energetic and sincere.
31:48I don't think that's true.
31:52I don't know Shoma.
31:55I think so.
31:57Some people don't like Shoma's brother.
32:04But I really don't think so.
32:06I don't care about him at all.
32:08So when I'm in trouble,
32:11I think he'll make good use of me.
32:16That's funny.
32:19In May of this year,
32:21he closed his activities as an active athlete
32:23and started practicing jumping.
32:26Now,
32:33he plays the role of Luffy in One Piece on Ice,
32:36which expresses the world view of the anime One Piece.
32:40It's great.
32:42His second life as an athlete has been changed to an ice show.
32:51Is he going to be a commentator?
32:54Usamu Hayashi is going to talk about Shoma Uno's second career.
32:58What are you doing?
33:00After finishing figure skating,
33:02I think there are many paths.
33:04One of them is becoming a commentator.
33:08What do you think about that?
33:10I want to try it.
33:12Shizuka Arakawa is very good at it.
33:16It's very easy to understand.
33:18I want to try it,
33:21but I don't want to do it beautifully.
33:23I want to talk freely.
33:25I think I'll do it freely,
33:27and I'll be gone in one go.
33:29I want to try it.
33:31I don't know unless I'm told what kind of jump it is.
33:34Right.
33:35I don't know what's the difference between salchow, lutz, and flip.
33:38When a commentator says triple salchow,
33:41I don't know what it is.
33:43To be honest, sometimes we don't know what it is.
33:46What?
33:47Sometimes it's hard to understand how many spins it is.
33:51I don't know what it is, either.
33:55I've never heard of it.
33:57It's interesting, though.
33:58The first person I knew about figure skating was Emi Watanabe.
34:03And Midori Ito.
34:05She's also from Nagoya.
34:07There was a time when it was amazing to be able to do quadruple jumps.
34:11How many quadruple jumps can you do now?
34:14That's right.
34:15It's not like your human abilities have changed that much.
34:17That's right.
34:18When I first appeared on the scene,
34:22quadruple jumps were a big thing.
34:26That's right.
34:27But they've changed every year.
34:32When I heard the rumor that this person did quadruple jumps,
34:38I wondered if everyone was suddenly motivated to do it.
34:43But your human body doesn't change all of a sudden, does it?
34:46That's right.
34:47The influence of gymnastics and figure skating is so intense.
34:50That's right.
34:51I can't keep doing this kind of influence.
34:55That's right.
34:57It's interesting.
34:58In two consecutive years,
35:00UNO was defeated by the main character Luffy in One Piece on Ice.
35:05Playing the world view of anime is a different kind of difficulty from figure skating.
35:12Figure skating is about showing your own strength.
35:16This time, I felt like I was playing something different than myself.
35:20I don't usually talk that much.
35:24I'm not a cheerful person.
35:26When I'm asked to talk, I'll answer.
35:30I played the role of Luffy in One Piece on Ice.
35:34The character is 180 degrees different.
35:38It's different from your own character.
35:40So I was worried at first that I wouldn't be able to play it.
35:47But in order to make this ice show better,
35:51Even if I'm not good at it,
35:54I was careful as a captain to make sure that I move where I have to move.
36:03Even in the same figure skating,
36:05in the competition figure skating,
36:07it was a lonely battle for one person to skate for himself.
36:11Now, he's a co-star and a staff member.
36:16He's facing the difficulties of entertaining the audience every day.
36:24However, here's a message from Mao Asada.
36:28Recently, he learned that Shoma Uno was a little worried.
36:38And Morio Katsuyoshi, the strongest marketer,
36:41is giving a lesson to both high school students and parents.
36:45I want everyone to see it.
36:52Mao Asada witnessed the moment when Shoma Uno was a little worried.
37:00When we were practicing the group number,
37:04he seemed to be sleeping all the time.
37:07He was alone in a different world.
37:10When I see Shoma Uno,
37:12I wonder if he's listening to me at all.
37:16I wonder if he's okay.
37:19I'm a little worried about that.
37:23He's doing it at his own pace.
37:24Yes, he's doing it at his own pace.
37:27It's like he's yawning.
37:31But he's doing what he has to do.
37:34I'm rooting for him.
37:37Is there anything you want to do with Shoma Uno in private?
37:42Shoma loves meat,
37:45so I want to take him to a delicious meat restaurant.
37:49Is there a restaurant you recommend?
37:51Yes, there is.
37:52Is there a restaurant you want to take him to?
37:53Yes, there is.
37:54Where is it?
37:56Is there a restaurant you want to take him to?
37:58There's a secret place.
38:02Are you two close?
38:04Shoma doesn't talk to me much.
38:06Really?
38:07I don't know if he's embarrassed.
38:10But when I talk to him, he talks to me.
38:15What do you think?
38:17Most of what I say is true.
38:20You said you were alone in a different world.
38:23I was worried about that.
38:25What do you think about that?
38:27I went to the same ice rink the other day.
38:31When we were together,
38:33there were a lot of foreign skaters.
38:35I don't understand English.
38:37I see.
38:38But I can't be lazy.
38:42So I stand in front of the ice rink,
38:45but I don't listen to them.
38:47That's what I think.
38:50You didn't listen to them.
38:52That's great.
38:53You don't show the atmosphere.
38:54Are you doing what you really want to do now?
38:58Yes.
38:59I'm having more fun than before.
39:02I do what I want to do.
39:04I practice what I want to do.
39:06I have to do what I want to do.
39:08I enjoy the days when I can reflect my will to practice.
39:15He has been working hard to reach the top of the world.
39:22And now he is happy to work hard in a new world.
39:28Beautiful.
39:29Shoma Uno's evolution never stops.
39:34To be continued.