PTI Nay Protest ki Call Dekar Kiya Khoya kiya Paya...? Kashif Abbasi's Revelations
PTI Nay Protest ki Call Dekar Kiya Khoya kiya Paya...? Kashif Abbasi's Revelations
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00:00Mr. Dhani, please stay with us. Mr. Kashif Abbasi, it has been developed now that
00:04the PTI has been confirmed. It has not been confirmed officially, but we all know that it is not happening.
00:09Now there will be an official statement or tweet on this.
00:12I was watching your show. You were saying that the government should also be facilitated for meetings.
00:17And PTI should not have met on the occasion of SCO. That is fine.
00:20But you tell me, in the current situation of PTI, has PTI gained anything from this move?
00:26Or did it lose? You announced it on the day of SCO and then took it back.
00:32Did it gain or lose?
00:35It did not gain anything.
00:37What it lost is that even after the last protest, PTI's leadership lost a lot of its face.
00:46People did not know what to do with their supporters in Islamabad.
00:51Mr. Ali Ameen went to have tea. The rest of the leadership remained hidden.
00:56And there was a worker in Islamabad's D-Chowk. There was no leader.
01:01Even now when you gave the call, someone said that I will take the sea to Islamabad.
01:07Someone else said that if you bring the sea, I will bring a bigger sea.
01:12But believe me, no one knew what to do till evening.
01:16I was on the phone in the evening.
01:18Momin, you made a set of calls.
01:21What is the plan?
01:22Yes.
01:23No one knew about the plan.
01:25Whether to come or not to come.
01:27All this planning was happening on the hope that the government will arrange a meeting
01:32and we will become a lion and move back from there.
01:37Sir, that was the case.
01:38They will say, okay, the work is done.
01:39You saw, they did not arrange a meeting.
01:41Now they will say, look, at 11 o'clock in the night,
01:43let's arrange a meeting for the sake of God.
01:45For God's sake, cancel it.
01:46We did it.
01:47Go ahead, cancel it.
01:48No?
01:49But has the meeting been arranged yet?
01:51No, but they are saying that this is because of PIMS doctors in the morning.
01:55Yes, but look, they also said that the government will give them face-saving.
02:01But they knew, as far as I know, that the meeting will take place.
02:06Yes.
02:07This meeting will take place.
02:08We will call off our protest.
02:10We will also become a lion.
02:12We will also say, look, we put our feet on our necks and got our words.
02:16Otherwise, you think, on the 11th, they said, come on the 15th.
02:20Four-day gap.
02:21If we had to do 15, we would have done 18.
02:23Otherwise, we would have done 11-12.
02:25So, a lot of problems were present in their place at that time as well.
02:29So, justice was done in a very haphazard way.
02:32Look, in just 15 days, two times Liamin Ganapur reached Islamabad with his caravan.
02:37When he came to Islamabad last time, you know, he has this number of KP.
02:42That our 500 to 1000 workers who came from KP are still sitting in different jails in Islamabad.
02:49Yes, yes.
02:50Taking these people out every day, bringing them to Islamabad.
02:54They say we don't even have those machines.
02:56They had announced that we are ready, we will go.
02:59Those machines are also forced to Islamabad.
03:02So, all this build-up was going on on this hope that there was a protest in Islamabad.
03:09If this option is also exhausted, how many times can you repeat this exercise?
03:142, 3, 4, 5, 6.
03:16If this is also exhausted, then the problem will not increase.
03:19Then the other side will not be able to share.
03:21Brother, tell me what will you do now?
03:22You have also done this.
03:23Tell me what will you do now?
03:25He is absolutely right.
03:26See, for example, you pace it out.
03:29You keep space in it.
03:32You don't exhaust your workers either.
03:35You keep your political options open.
03:37Political parties run like this.
03:39They become Tarzan and call for protest every day.
03:43Let me tell you, there are two big leaders in justice.
03:47The competition between the two has given this call.
03:49Yes.
03:50One said I am coming.
03:51Now the other could not stay behind.
03:53The competition is very tough.
03:54They don't get along with each other.
03:55The leaders of Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
03:58So the other said, okay, you come.
03:59So I will have to come too.
04:01So in this competition, one has to bring the sea.
04:04The other said, okay, I will also bring the sea.
04:06Although everyone knew that if Hammad Azhar and Ali Ameen Gandapur.
04:12Hammad Azhar is already underground.
04:14How do they come out?
04:15Ali Ameen has come twice.
04:16It is very difficult for him to come for the third time.
04:19So these two people are in competition with each other.
04:22But even today, believe me, I called a big senior leader.
04:26One of our friends from PTI said, sir, what is the plan?
04:29He said, there is no plan.
04:30I have no idea.
04:32Hopefully, this whole game is going on.
04:35Let me tell you the last thing.
04:36Friends from PTI say that this is a build-up.
04:40That is, the build-up was that on 4th October, D-Chowk.
04:43On 5th October, Minar-e-Pakistan.
04:45Then GT Road.
04:46All this happened.
04:47Then Islamabad's call.
04:48Which was supposed to happen on 15th.
04:49Now it will happen after a few days.
04:50Then Dharna.
04:52So do you think this is the call of Dharna?
04:55Is it such a final call that the government is still afraid of?
04:57That to avoid this Dharna, do anything but avoid this.
05:01Or do you think they have also seen that this is it?
05:03Okay.
05:04Four shells will run.
05:05Two will be this.
05:06But it will be managed.
05:08See, if you ask me,
05:09I will find justice more uncomfortable in both of them.
05:14Because justice has to do a lot to bring people.
05:17Yes.
05:18To prepare people mentally first.
05:20Then to bring Islamabad.
05:21And then to make them sit.
05:23This is not such an easy job.
05:24There are no people of Avtaar-ul-Qadri who will sit.
05:26Right.
05:28I will find justice more difficult.
05:30If you ask me today.
05:31Right.
05:32The government knows that I can crack down.
05:34I can do this, I can do that.
05:35And most of the people came and sat.
05:38They didn't sit.
05:40How many days will they sit?
05:41When there was support from the entire sector,
05:43the government could not open the Dharna.
05:45If the government could not open the Dharna in the past,
05:48then I will think that if I am in the government,
05:50that the government could not open the Dharna even today.
05:52Thank you, Mr. Kashyap.
05:53Thank you, sir.
05:54Thank you very much.
05:55Mr. Kashyap was telling me.