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Married at First Sight UK S9 Episode 21
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00:00:00Previously, after Hannah faced the wrath of the group, one groom offered a welcome distraction,
00:00:20but it was an indiscreet proposition from Stephen that prompted outrage, and Polly's
00:00:37attempts at damage control fell short of Adam's expectations.
00:00:55Tonight
00:00:56I want to spend the rest of my life with you.
00:00:58She's finally seeing who I actually am.
00:01:01The impact of the retreat hits home.
00:01:03I felt betrayed.
00:01:04My head's been scrambled.
00:01:06It almost felt like sex was a sales pitch.
00:01:08Pushing some marriages
00:01:09This is going to be hard to hear.
00:01:11This is why I prepare myself for the worst.
00:01:14to breaking point.
00:01:15At that moment, I knew I could not stand him.
00:01:19Just like squeezing blood from his phone.
00:01:21Were you trying to make Stephen jealous?
00:01:23You can't make a guy jealous of you that doesn't give a ****.
00:01:26Why do I want to even speak to this girl?
00:01:27But it's a shocking revelation.
00:01:29Have they not been sneakily kissing?
00:01:32Red watch?
00:01:34You consider what you did an act of infidelity.
00:01:37That delivers the biggest blow of the evening.
00:01:39She deserves to know.
00:01:40I think it's bullshit.
00:01:41Snake.
00:01:42Hannah, zip it.
00:01:43Don't tell me to shut up.
00:01:44You're a sly guy.
00:01:45It is very clear that this relationship is done.
00:02:02Is that I love you?
00:02:03Or is it just love?
00:02:04It's not either.
00:02:05And I'm up to you.
00:02:06Don't you point it.
00:02:07Wouldn't you just say, I love you?
00:02:08Oh, dear.
00:02:09As the couple sat down to talk,
00:02:10As the couples settle back into apartment life.
00:02:16Do you mind coming to help me?
00:02:19Yeah, never done this before actually.
00:02:21Yes, I do.
00:02:22All the time.
00:02:23They're reflecting on their time away.
00:02:30The retreat done us good because obviously a lot of the other couples weren't getting
00:02:33on.
00:02:34It just makes you realise what you do have.
00:02:37We've come back and I feel cured.
00:02:41And now that we're understanding each other better,
00:02:44I don't see us clashing as much.
00:02:46I'd say we're in a good place now,
00:02:47the best place we've ever been in.
00:02:51Your trip was really nice, wasn't it?
00:02:53Definitely.
00:02:54Me and Kieran, we had a lovely time at Retreat.
00:02:58It's really difficult being around me
00:03:00when I have HMDD, but we are in a good place.
00:03:05And he's been really supportive.
00:03:08The bumps that we have, like, we can sort it out.
00:03:13I'm just pleased, like, we're actually speaking.
00:03:16There's people in there not even speaking.
00:03:18I know.
00:03:20Oh, I'm pulled over.
00:03:32I do feel like me and Adam still have some things to resolve.
00:03:35I shouldn't have said I tussled with Stephen on the retreat.
00:03:38I hold my hands up, I **** up,
00:03:41but he isn't understanding my point
00:03:44and why I said the comment that I made.
00:03:47And unfortunately, I feel like the Stephen comment,
00:03:50it was a step back, wasn't it?
00:03:51Like, it felt like a bit of a kick in the teeth,
00:03:53you know what I mean?
00:03:54Yeah, but there's been stuff that you've said
00:03:56that's been a huge kick in the teeth for me.
00:03:59I was fuming, not going to lie.
00:04:02He disrespected me, made me look muggy
00:04:04in front of all the other girls.
00:04:05I have done one thing, one,
00:04:09whereas you've done multiple little things.
00:04:12I know, and that's what was annoying me at the dinner party,
00:04:14because the things I've done, we've kind of got past and got over.
00:04:18So at the dinner table, for you to be saying to me,
00:04:21but you did this, you did that, it felt like it was...
00:04:23I wouldn't say that's fair to say.
00:04:24I wouldn't say that they have been gotten over.
00:04:26We're just going to argue if we keep talking about it.
00:04:28I think we just need to forget it.
00:04:30I don't really know where me and Polly stand at the moment.
00:04:33Going into the commitment ceremony,
00:04:35I've got a really hard decision to make.
00:04:38We're kind of just waiting for me to either get over this comment
00:04:42or move on.
00:04:48We've had a pretty good week.
00:04:49We've had a really good week, best week we've had in ages.
00:04:53We've had a snog, we've, you know, tested the waters there,
00:04:59It was almost like you went, I'm leaning in,
00:05:01it's got to be everything all at once.
00:05:03For me, it moved really quickly in a week.
00:05:07Sorry.
00:05:11I think the retreat's been really good for Emma and I,
00:05:13but you look at other couples in that process
00:05:16and they're falling in love and they've got these
00:05:18really strong relationships.
00:05:20So we know we've made progress, but have we made enough progress?
00:05:24I'm not sure is the answer.
00:05:29I felt like the retreat would be for us to go and, like,
00:05:32listen to the birds chirping, go for walks.
00:05:34We did none of that.
00:05:35All we did, I felt, I felt, was we sat,
00:05:37consoled Hannah with her tantrums and, you know, her issues.
00:05:41And, oh, this and oh, Stephen, that, Stephen,
00:05:43just get on with it.
00:05:44Like, she drained me. I'm sorry, but Hannah drained me.
00:05:47She sucked the fun out of me,
00:05:49from the morning till the evening, till the good night.
00:05:52I can feel that you're stressed. Yeah.
00:05:56So we move back into the apartment. Obviously, Stephen isn't here.
00:05:59He doesn't even have any of his stuff here.
00:06:01He hasn't spent a night in the apartment.
00:06:04In my heart, I'm like, come on, let's just try. We've got this.
00:06:07I don't feel like I've had the opportunity to be a wife.
00:06:12I still care about the boy.
00:06:14I don't just wake up and not give a crap.
00:06:16I don't feel like I've had the opportunity to be a wife.
00:06:20I still care about the boy.
00:06:22I don't just wake up and not give a crap.
00:06:24I don't just wake up and not give a crap about someone.
00:06:27There is still some care there.
00:06:29I loved the guy I married.
00:06:31And I am gutted.
00:06:33I have tried and tried and tried from day one.
00:06:35I've kept my ring on, I've told everyone I've still got a husband.
00:06:39I'm proud of how I've held my own.
00:06:41I'm proud... Oh!
00:06:46I can't wear my make-up, I'm going to the thing.
00:06:49I'm proud of myself. I'm proud of how I've held myself
00:06:52I've tried my best and sometimes you take a risk and it doesn't pay off.
00:06:57And...
00:07:00I tried and that's all you can do.
00:07:04Fuck.
00:07:13That Stephen is here for the wrong reason.
00:07:16I just wish you could have seen my reaction when Holly told me.
00:07:19The minute we have a tiff,
00:07:22Embarrassing, isn't it?
00:07:23Embarrassing. Like, he's shown himself up massively.
00:07:26He blatantly lied.
00:07:28Do you know what? I've kept my cool with him.
00:07:30But this man thinks he's better than what he is.
00:07:33I do not understand where he thought he was going to ever shoot a shot with me.
00:07:39Like, I'd have shot him right back down and you know that.
00:07:43I have a few things to get off my chest today at the commitment ceremony.
00:07:47I do know that something went down at the retreat between Orson and Hannah.
00:07:55He literally wants to stay in the process by any means necessary.
00:07:59I thought he had a little bit more shame than this.
00:08:03But clearly he doesn't, so he's shown himself.
00:08:07I've lost so many people.
00:08:10I've lost so many brain cells since being married to Orson.
00:08:13I'm actually a little bit embarrassed that I married him.
00:08:17I actually pity him a little bit.
00:08:20Pity the fool.
00:08:31I have no idea if Rochelle's going to turn up today.
00:08:34She didn't turn up for the dinner party.
00:08:36She didn't turn up for the mix-up.
00:08:38She didn't turn up for this relationship.
00:08:41But there's rumours knocking about
00:08:44and I would want Rochelle to come and sit and say her peace.
00:08:50Because I'm ready for her.
00:09:09Hi.
00:09:20Welcome, everyone, to your fourth commitment ceremony.
00:09:24Look at the person next to you.
00:09:28And think about what they're giving you and you're giving them.
00:09:33Today, we want you to lay it all out on the table.
00:09:40No secrets, no shame.
00:09:46Now, with that in mind, let's begin.
00:09:51First up on the couch today is...
00:09:55Holly and Alex.
00:10:03Hello.
00:10:05And quite the different couple sitting on the couch.
00:10:09We did a 360.
00:10:10Wow, you did?
00:10:12Holly, one of the things we talked about with you
00:10:16was addressing those issues as they come up in the moment
00:10:19rather than allowing them to percolate.
00:10:21How's that been going for you this week?
00:10:23A lot better.
00:10:24Right.
00:10:25I felt the only way we could progress is if I let him in.
00:10:29The things I struggle with and my triggers and my traumas.
00:10:32And he was like, I get it.
00:10:34And he just tells me and was like, I got you, it's OK, let it out.
00:10:38And thank God I bloody did.
00:10:41He just, he understood.
00:10:43And the next day, I woke up and I thought,
00:10:45I could go and run a marathon.
00:10:47That feels so light.
00:10:49It's just an amazing feeling just to know that, like,
00:10:52she's finally seeing who I actually am.
00:10:55You can talk to me and you tried it and it worked.
00:10:59Good work.
00:11:01Wow, so how has this conversation changed your relationship?
00:11:06We're just so much more calmer around each other, more relaxed.
00:11:10I feel like everyone else is more relaxed around us.
00:11:13They're not sat there like, they're going to blow.
00:11:15Like, everyone just seems so much more chill around us.
00:11:18I'm glad that we've had the tiffs and the arguments that we've had
00:11:22because when we come back, we come back 20 times more stronger than before.
00:11:26Where to next?
00:11:27What do you need in order to deepen this relationship even further?
00:11:31Just continue doing what we're doing.
00:11:33Because everything else is fine.
00:11:40Are you telling Charlene not to ask?
00:11:44I feel like we've put the puzzle together.
00:11:46It's just making sure it stays in place.
00:11:49Wonderful.
00:11:50Well, why don't we go to a decision?
00:11:52Holly, you first.
00:11:56I feel like a weight's lifted off my shoulders.
00:11:59I feel like we make a good team as well.
00:12:01You're daft.
00:12:03You make me feel stunning.
00:12:05Aww.
00:12:06And you make the best cups of tea ever.
00:12:09So, for that reason, my darling, I'm going to stay.
00:12:14Yeah.
00:12:17Wonderful.
00:12:18Over to you, big man.
00:12:20Yeah, I'm just enjoying getting to know Holly more
00:12:23and spending time with each other.
00:12:25We just have the best time.
00:12:27And there's no reason why she shouldn't be a million percent confident
00:12:30in who she is because everybody loves her, you know,
00:12:34and she's a great girl.
00:12:35I love it.
00:12:37No-brainer.
00:12:39Stay.
00:12:44Well, you two are an amazing example
00:12:47of what happens when a couple does the work.
00:12:49Yeah.
00:12:50You're doing it.
00:12:51Don't give up, guys.
00:12:53Don't give up.
00:12:54It's a great message to everyone else.
00:12:56We're really proud of you.
00:12:57Thank you so much.
00:12:58Keep it up.
00:12:59Well done.
00:13:00Well done, guys.
00:13:08All right, next up, if we could have Ryan and Shannon.
00:13:12Come on up.
00:13:16Hi, guys.
00:13:17Welcome.
00:13:18Good to see both of you.
00:13:20Second commitment ceremony.
00:13:22Yes.
00:13:23We're here.
00:13:24Yes.
00:13:25You were here together.
00:13:26How's the week been for you both?
00:13:28It was an interesting week.
00:13:30We had our first little argument.
00:13:33Okay, first argument.
00:13:34Yeah.
00:13:35Okay, unpack it for us.
00:13:36It was like a big misunderstanding, honestly.
00:13:39Ryan said something that kind of threw me back to one of my exes.
00:13:44You'd kind of said you were done.
00:13:46I took that as done completely,
00:13:48but he meant done with the conversation.
00:13:50I said I'm done with it.
00:13:51I've gone back to sleep, waking up, and Shannon's not there.
00:13:55And afterwards, we've just said, like, wow,
00:13:57that was just a mountain was made out of a molehill.
00:14:00This one misunderstanding,
00:14:02Shannon, you take and react extremely to it.
00:14:06I just panicked.
00:14:08We all, all react to fight or flight.
00:14:13Anytime we feel under threat, what do we want to do?
00:14:16Fight or we want to flee?
00:14:18You chose flight.
00:14:19Instead of taking a pause, sleeping on it,
00:14:23waking up the next morning, resolving it.
00:14:26I'm terrible at that.
00:14:27Okay, but now you know.
00:14:28Now I know.
00:14:29Right, now you know.
00:14:30Okay, so now, as the dinner party progressed,
00:14:34Ryan, you looked agitated, and you looked worked up.
00:14:40Can you elaborate as to why?
00:14:45Holly came over to me and said,
00:14:47Stephen had said, if Ryan doesn't come to the dinner party,
00:14:51he's going to shoot his shot.
00:14:54So now I couldn't trust you with my wife.
00:14:57So, Holly, when did you hear Stephen say this?
00:15:00So, before Ryan had come into the mixer,
00:15:03Stephen had shouted me over to him, and he said,
00:15:07so obviously you know Shannon's my type.
00:15:13If Ryan doesn't come to the mixer tonight,
00:15:15I'm going to stick it on Shannon.
00:15:20I would never use the word stick it on,
00:15:21because it's not what I use anyway.
00:15:23You was going to try it on her though, yeah?
00:15:29Come on, was you going to try it?
00:15:31You've got to let me answer.
00:15:32I would not have done that without speaking to you,
00:15:35and I've said that.
00:15:36A blatant lie.
00:15:41You're a sly guy.
00:15:59So if Shannon was interested,
00:16:03you would have attempted something.
00:16:06I would have spoken to you as much as you think I would have done.
00:16:09You're the slyest guy I've met.
00:16:10And I'm saying it.
00:16:11Slyest guy I've ever met.
00:16:13I would have spoken to you.
00:16:14Of course you would.
00:16:20You're laughable, lad.
00:16:22I feel for that girl, because you've been grilling her
00:16:25all this experiment, and you have done exactly the same.
00:16:29Do you have anything to say to Ryan or Shannon?
00:16:31I don't, Paul, Paul, let's leave it.
00:16:33I'm good.
00:16:34You keep it to yourself, mate.
00:16:35You keep your distance from me, I'll keep your distance,
00:16:37and we'll respect that.
00:16:46All right.
00:16:47So now, back to you two, all right?
00:16:50You had your misunderstanding this week, okay?
00:16:53You had all this happening in the group,
00:16:55but do you feel like there's been progress this week?
00:16:58It's made me stronger, this.
00:17:00It's been great, hasn't it?
00:17:01I've been speaking about moving to Manchester.
00:17:04Have you? Yeah.
00:17:05All right, this is good.
00:17:06As long as I get a puppy.
00:17:10This is big.
00:17:11So you've already resolved the distance challenge?
00:17:14Yes, that's done.
00:17:15Wow. It's done.
00:17:17This is good.
00:17:21Okay, so now, let's go to a decision, then.
00:17:24Do you want me to go first, Paul?
00:17:25You want to go first?
00:17:28You've already started, go.
00:17:30So this decision is very easy.
00:17:32Listen, I didn't expect this when I came here.
00:17:34I'm not the one to hit it off straight away.
00:17:36And I said to her one day, I said,
00:17:38where have you been all my life?
00:17:40And this decision is absolutely very, very easy,
00:17:44and it's stay.
00:17:47That's nice.
00:17:49OK.
00:17:50OK.
00:17:51Shannon, hit us.
00:17:53Ryan has made me feel so comfortable,
00:17:55probably more comfortable than any man has ever made me feel,
00:17:58which is big.
00:18:00And you've made me this sloppy mess
00:18:02that I don't know what the fuck has happened to me.
00:18:05So, obviously, I'm going to stay.
00:18:07All right.
00:18:08Beautiful.
00:18:09All right.
00:18:10All right.
00:18:14Have a great week.
00:18:15Thank you, Mel.
00:18:16Thank you, Paul.
00:18:17Thank you, Shannon.
00:18:20Much respect.
00:18:29Next up on the couch...
00:18:32..Amy and Luke.
00:18:33Woo-hoo!
00:18:40Hey, guys.
00:18:41Hello.
00:18:42How are you both?
00:18:44Yeah, OK.
00:18:45Yeah, you both doing well?
00:18:48We've been very busy at the retreat, haven't we?
00:18:51Yeah.
00:18:52Sort of involved with all the drama.
00:18:56It felt like it was bringing us together
00:18:58because we were both, like, helping the situation together,
00:19:01but since coming back to the apartments,
00:19:03we just feel like we're, like...
00:19:07I felt like, yeah, the retreat was supposed to be
00:19:09a kind of relaxing time.
00:19:11But, you know, Amy, bless her, she was, like, 24-7 babysitting,
00:19:16which was good because I saw really good signs in Amy,
00:19:19like, she's such an angel,
00:19:20but I felt like I was the nurse and the patient
00:19:22and the janitor, you know, clearing up after.
00:19:28We were supporting Hannah.
00:19:29I know we were supporting, but look what it's done to us.
00:19:32It wasn't very relaxing and, you know,
00:19:34a few bits happened at the retreat that have affected us,
00:19:37I would say affected me definitely.
00:19:39What happened was, I came back from a lads' day
00:19:42and I found out that Amy picked Nathan as the sexiest husband.
00:19:46She sat here last week saying I was a 12 out of 10
00:19:49and now she's saying she finds Nathan as the sexiest,
00:19:51when she could have said me.
00:19:52And so what's Nathan, 24 out of 10?
00:19:54Like, what's this, FIFA cards and numbers keep getting bigger?
00:19:57That's crazy.
00:19:59You can appreciate that other people are attractive.
00:20:02Does that mean I can't have any friends with penises?
00:20:05No, it's not that.
00:20:06I'm just saying that's, you know, that's how it affected me
00:20:09because then I'm thinking,
00:20:10is it because he's got that fancy jacket and fashion?
00:20:12Right, so it kind of brings out an insecurity. Yeah.
00:20:15Would you say that it made you experience this situation
00:20:19in a jealous way?
00:20:21Potentially, yeah. I do. OK.
00:20:23And I feel a bit guilty for it.
00:20:25In my opinion, you are the most beautiful girl in this group,
00:20:28which is hence why I chose you.
00:20:30It was doubly painful for me.
00:20:32It was just a game.
00:20:34Fair enough.
00:20:36I can see that it really hurt you.
00:20:38I think it might be worth you just reflecting,
00:20:42away from this space, about this conversation
00:20:45and maybe you need some reassurance
00:20:48that actually you're her number one.
00:20:51I think that's how the two of you can really move forward here.
00:20:55But let's look at the dinner party
00:20:57because one thing that I noticed was that
00:20:59there was quite a lot of affection between the two of you.
00:21:02Intimacy, would you say, is quite good?
00:21:04Yeah, great. Yeah.
00:21:06Is that to say that the intimacy is at another level?
00:21:13Maybe.
00:21:15It was well-earned.
00:21:17I made love to my woman, not...
00:21:21..not just had sex, but I made love.
00:21:24I made love. It felt very good.
00:21:26OK, OK, OK.
00:21:28I mean, we're being honest, I'm not saying anything.
00:21:30It was worth the wait.
00:21:32I appreciate your honesty.
00:21:36On that note, let's go to positions.
00:21:39Amy, would you like to go first?
00:21:41Erm, so...
00:21:43We're still very early in our journey
00:21:46and I do believe we can both work on things.
00:21:50So I've decided to stay.
00:21:53CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:21:58And Luke, what's your decision?
00:22:00This whole process about learning, isn't it?
00:22:03And things come in life to test us, I think,
00:22:06and, you know, with Amy by my side,
00:22:08I feel ready to take that test.
00:22:10And I want to continue, I want to work hard for it,
00:22:13you know, despite all those insecurities that I have.
00:22:15And I think you will bring the best out of me, Amy,
00:22:17so despite all that, I'm staying.
00:22:25I think my advice for you guys this week is
00:22:28press the reset button, have some fun together
00:22:32and enjoy the rest of your week.
00:22:34Thank you. Thank you.
00:22:40APPLAUSE
00:22:44Next up to the couch, can we have Polly and Adam.
00:22:48Come on up.
00:22:53Hello. Hey, guys.
00:22:56How are you both? Yeah, we're not bad, thank you.
00:22:59All right, good. It's good to see you both.
00:23:01All right, so now we're looking forward to hearing about the retreat.
00:23:04So let's get into it. What happened?
00:23:07Bit of an argument.
00:23:10So it was on the girls' day.
00:23:14Polly said that she would twist to another husband
00:23:17because he's more emotionally available and talks about his feelings.
00:23:21So I was shocked, upset, disrespected and just...
00:23:26It just wasn't a nice feeling. Interesting.
00:23:28Because I thought I was making so much effort
00:23:31and coming out of my comfort zone.
00:23:33And I felt like we was going in the right direction
00:23:36and getting better to then hear that.
00:23:38It was kind of like a kick in the teeth.
00:23:40Interesting. All right, now, who did Polly say that she would twist with?
00:23:45Steven, my good friend.
00:23:48I think one of the comments when she told me was,
00:23:51he's gave me more emotional conversations than you have.
00:23:56And I was like, I've been here three weeks, not three days.
00:23:59Wow. So it's just another shock for me to hear.
00:24:02Right. So, Polly, I have to go to you.
00:24:04Why did you say you would twist with Steven?
00:24:08Because of the qualities that Steven has that I wish Adam had.
00:24:15And what are those qualities?
00:24:17Emotional availability.
00:24:20Voicing how he thinks and how he feels to other people
00:24:23without feeling ashamed.
00:24:25Being secure in himself.
00:24:27To be able to just say it.
00:24:30Because I don't feel like he shows me that he cares about me enough.
00:24:34I felt like I'd come out of my comfort zone complete
00:24:38and I was trying to get us to the best place we could be
00:24:41and then that was, like, hurtful, you know what I mean?
00:24:44I think that's obviously made Polly realise
00:24:46that obviously I do care because it's hurt me, so...
00:24:49But it shouldn't have had to have taken me saying,
00:24:51I want qualities in someone else for you to show
00:24:53and tell me how you feel about me.
00:24:55I mean, he's never said that I'm sexy or I'm beautiful or I look gorgeous.
00:24:58I know, but I've been giving a bit more affection,
00:25:00like the little kiss and stuff. I know sometimes I forget...
00:25:02On the cheek.
00:25:04Yeah, but I'm not a PDA person, you know what I mean?
00:25:06But it's even when we're at home.
00:25:08Even when you leave to go...
00:25:10I know, but that's because I've just had our first massive argument
00:25:12to the point where I felt betrayed.
00:25:15And I've said to you, the last thing I'm going to do now
00:25:17is want to give you a kiss when my head's been scrambled.
00:25:19But that's not fair when it's taken us so long to get to where we are.
00:25:22Of course, I know it's not fair, but...
00:25:24Now I feel like I'm being punished for one comment I've made
00:25:27after the fucking ten that you've made.
00:25:29To me, it was a big comment. It wasn't just a jokey comment.
00:25:32It was a massive comment to where everyone else couldn't believe it.
00:25:38You have to understand what I've had to sit and listen to and deal with
00:25:42that I've taken on board and understood.
00:25:44I have not thrown anything in your face...
00:25:46No, I get that, but it's more...
00:25:48..that you've said, so for you to react how you did was unfair.
00:25:52You still haven't given a lot.
00:25:55I know that you feel like you have, but you haven't.
00:26:00I do obviously see a future with me and Adam,
00:26:02and I do genuinely believe that it can get there.
00:26:05But at the moment, I'm just seeing the potential.
00:26:08And it's like, is this just another fucking relationship
00:26:11at nearly 30 years old?
00:26:13So here's the thing, the worst thing in the world
00:26:15is falling in love with potential.
00:26:18So if your objective is what you think Adam will be in the future,
00:26:22you might as well leave today.
00:26:25So, you're going to leave today.
00:26:31So go to the decision.
00:26:46The worst thing in the world is falling in love with potential.
00:26:50So if your objective is what you think Adam will be in the future,
00:26:54to be in the future, you might as well leave today.
00:26:57ā™Ŗā™Ŗ
00:27:04You can go to the decision.
00:27:06ā™Ŗā™Ŗ
00:27:10The conflict that we had
00:27:12maybe shouldn't have happened how it did,
00:27:13and I apologize for that,
00:27:15but I feel like I am more affirmed in certain ways
00:27:19by Adam and his reaction.
00:27:22So I put them.
00:27:24-ā™Ŗā™Ŗ
00:27:30Adam.
00:27:31ā™Ŗā™Ŗ
00:27:35I did have a feeling that did she say that to make me think,
00:27:39well, I'm jealous, I'm going to try harder.
00:27:41But me personally, a comment like that
00:27:43more would hurt me and make me retract.
00:27:47I'm sorry if I can't give you what you want right now,
00:27:49but there is two of us here,
00:27:52and there's two people's feelings.
00:27:55And I know you want something, but then I need things as well.
00:27:58ā™Ŗā™Ŗ
00:28:01But...
00:28:04But there's definitely feelings there.
00:28:06Otherwise, that comment wouldn't have bothered me.
00:28:07I'd just been like, whatever.
00:28:11So I put stay.
00:28:13-ā™Ŗā™Ŗ
00:28:19All right.
00:28:20We'll see you back in this week, all right?
00:28:22Thank you so much.
00:28:23All right, thank you. Thank you.
00:28:24Good job.
00:28:25-ā™Ŗā™Ŗ
00:28:32Oh.
00:28:35I don't know.
00:28:37Next up on the couch...
00:28:41Hannah and Steven.
00:28:42-ā™Ŗā™Ŗ
00:28:48Okay.
00:28:49Hello.
00:28:50Hello. Hello. Hello.
00:28:51Where I'd like to begin is where we last saw you,
00:28:55and that was right here on this couch.
00:28:58Hannah, you wrote stay.
00:29:00Mm-hmm.
00:29:01Steven, you wrote leave,
00:29:03but you agreed to continue to work on your marriage.
00:29:07Do you believe you did?
00:29:08No.
00:29:09Why?
00:29:11Because after I'm off to meet Awesome
00:29:13with a few other boys,
00:29:14she just goes, Awesome, why did you hold my hand?
00:29:17To make him jealous.
00:29:19So the respect thing then just disappeared straight away,
00:29:22so our walls went straight up.
00:29:24So let's just figure this out right now.
00:29:26Hannah, were you trying to make Steven jealous?
00:29:30You can't make a guy jealous of you
00:29:31that doesn't give a fuck about you,
00:29:33so that's not what that was.
00:29:34It was just a bit of banter for someone
00:29:35trying to make me smile
00:29:36and trying to make me have a bit of a giggle.
00:29:39He didn't say one word to me after the commitment ceremony.
00:29:42He avoided me like the plague.
00:29:44He couldn't look at me.
00:29:45I don't feel like you can sit here and say
00:29:47that's the reason why you weren't trying
00:29:49is because me and Awesome had some banter
00:29:51because you checked out way before that.
00:29:56All right, so now you're at the retreat.
00:29:59Did you stay together at the retreat?
00:30:01No.
00:30:02We had an argument as soon as we moved into the lodge.
00:30:05You both had an argument?
00:30:06I wouldn't call it an argument.
00:30:07I'd call it an ambush, and then I'd leave the room.
00:30:10Okay.
00:30:11Because that's what he does.
00:30:12This whole me and Awesome having banter situation,
00:30:16you held on to it, held on to it,
00:30:18didn't speak to me, stewed on it,
00:30:20then waiting until we were in a room together,
00:30:22dropped a bomb on me,
00:30:24waited for me to react, because I do,
00:30:26and then you're like,
00:30:27see, that's why I don't really like you,
00:30:29and then you darted out of the room.
00:30:31That's so toxic.
00:30:33What was the bomb that was dropped?
00:30:34That me and Awesome were pissing around
00:30:35and having banter and pretending to hold hands.
00:30:38Okay.
00:30:40I said I'll try at the retreat,
00:30:41and I was trying to get into that head space,
00:30:43but there was all this kind of stuff going on
00:30:45with Hannah and the girls or whatever.
00:30:48I was kind of just listening to it all,
00:30:50and all I'm hearing is she's trying it
00:30:52with everyone's husband.
00:30:53It's just making me completely check out even more.
00:30:56I'm like, why do I want to even speak to this girl?
00:30:58Right.
00:30:59So let me ask the group this.
00:31:01This kind of notion of Hannah trying it
00:31:04with different guys, that seems to keep coming up,
00:31:08and clearly that had a lot of impact on you,
00:31:10especially the girls' day.
00:31:12So were you feeling that?
00:31:13Yeah.
00:31:15Okay.
00:31:16Me and Hannah discussed it,
00:31:17but it felt like she was, like,
00:31:19very flirty with Ryan.
00:31:22I was just very vocal in saying to Hannah
00:31:25that I don't like how she's gone about things,
00:31:27I don't like what she said to certain people,
00:31:29when we've all made her feel so welcome,
00:31:32and I called a spade a spade.
00:31:35She deserved to know, so I told her,
00:31:37and then she started getting lippy to someone else.
00:31:40Just didn't sit well with me.
00:31:42Right.
00:31:43I mean, this is interesting for us to know
00:31:45because that was happening, Hannah,
00:31:47but at the same time, Stephen,
00:31:48the whole, you know, you shooting your shot with Shannon,
00:31:53that's playing out too.
00:31:56It's ironic, don't you think?
00:31:58Yeah, of course.
00:31:59Ironic, yeah.
00:32:00Yeah.
00:32:02Do you think that these rumors about Hannah and the guys,
00:32:06did that influence your behavior whatsoever with Hannah?
00:32:12It probably did influence it, yeah.
00:32:16I don't see boys and girls differently,
00:32:18so if I have, like, banter with one of the boys,
00:32:20I don't see that as, like, oh, that's a boy.
00:32:23So I should be careful how I speak to them over a girl.
00:32:28Okay, so, Hannah, what are you thinking at this point?
00:32:32Are you thinking, I want to try to make this work still,
00:32:35I don't want to make this work, what's your thought?
00:32:41It still, in the back of my brain,
00:32:43was like, I'm here for a marriage, like,
00:32:45there is probably things we can work on.
00:32:48Yes, I was like, every single time we have an argument,
00:32:50I check out, like, more and more and more and more,
00:32:52but I still wasn't finished.
00:32:53Okay, so you were still in it?
00:32:55Yeah.
00:32:57The best-case scenario for me was, can we squash it?
00:33:04We've had this experience,
00:33:05let's remember that we actually had a really good start,
00:33:08and I wanted to say thank you for how he made me feel
00:33:11on the wedding day, cos I felt incredible.
00:33:15Hearing that, what are you thinking?
00:33:18Does it change anything?
00:33:21I will never deny the fact our wedding day was special,
00:33:28but, no.
00:33:34A lot has been said about two from both of you tonight.
00:33:40So, let's go to a decision.
00:33:43Stephen, would you like to go first?
00:33:50Last week, I, before I put leave,
00:33:52I was still in the mindset of,
00:33:53I don't think I can be the man you need.
00:33:59But my mindset is very much now, I don't want to be your man.
00:34:07I don't think you're in it for me,
00:34:08I think you're in it for a...
00:34:09I don't know what the reasons are and why you're here.
00:34:12So, for those reasons, I'm going to leave.
00:34:16Okay.
00:34:17Okay. Thank you.
00:34:21Hannah?
00:34:33I think this is probably my opportunity to
00:34:38try and leave this process as amicably as I can with everybody.
00:34:46As much as whatever's happened, happened,
00:34:49I do think deep down you are a good guy
00:34:51and I do think you'll make someone happy.
00:34:56This is meant to be about marriage
00:34:58and ours hasn't worked, so I am going to leave.
00:35:07Okay. Alright.
00:35:11Thank you for your vulnerability here on the couch.
00:35:14We want to thank you for your participation
00:35:16and we truly wish you the best in your future relationships.
00:35:19Thanks, guys.
00:35:37Hey, that was bloody hot.
00:35:40I'm not going to get worse than that, am I?
00:35:46Next up on the couch, can we have Kieran and Christina.
00:35:50CHEERING
00:35:52Oh, you guys killed me.
00:35:55Hello, hello, hello.
00:35:57Hello!
00:35:58Hello!
00:35:59Welcome.
00:36:02So, how was the retreat, you two?
00:36:04Full of drama, but it was good.
00:36:08We had one day where...
00:36:10Was a little bit questionable on my behalf.
00:36:13What happened there for you?
00:36:14It just got in my head.
00:36:17PMDD hit and it was just a little bit tough.
00:36:23I'm going to get a mouse.
00:36:24It's OK. You're OK.
00:36:26You're OK.
00:36:28It's just, like, the worst feeling ever
00:36:30and you just, no matter how much you try and fight it,
00:36:34like, when you are in that moment, like, it just feels...
00:36:38It just feels really just dark and horrible and...
00:36:44I think what makes it worse almost for me
00:36:47is because I know, like, how it affects Kieran.
00:36:54But I just don't want it to, like, just push you away.
00:36:59That's what I'm scared of.
00:37:02I'm more careful about what I say and what I do when PMDD's here
00:37:06because you don't know what it's going to be.
00:37:08That's going to be the set-off.
00:37:10But it's horrible seeing Christina like that
00:37:12and I think I can really... I really empathise with you, don't I?
00:37:15I've cried with Christina quite a lot
00:37:17when I can see how emotional she's getting.
00:37:20You know, we haven't got that intimate connection at the moment,
00:37:24even though, obviously, we are like this
00:37:26because that's all we, like, can do and I am just feeling rejected.
00:37:30OK.
00:37:33And just so I'm clear, you're talking about the cold sore?
00:37:35Yeah. Is that right? I've just nearly, nearly gone.
00:37:37OK, good.
00:37:38I just want to feel wanted by you.
00:37:41It's not just about sex, but it's been since the honeymoon, man.
00:37:46I've done it once since the honeymoon. All right.
00:37:51I think I've distanced myself intimacy-wise
00:37:55because I don't want to get excited and I don't want to wind her up.
00:37:59You know, it's just like we're friends living together again.
00:38:02Like, I know you've taken a step back.
00:38:04I wouldn't say I've taken a step back.
00:38:06You just said you had. You've distanced.
00:38:09I've distanced, but I wouldn't say I've took a step back.
00:38:14I just would love to ask you, Kieran,
00:38:16and really ask you to be really honest with yourself here.
00:38:20Would you say you've been holding back on the physical affection
00:38:24just because of the cold sore?
00:38:27Or has it also been because of Christina's reaction
00:38:31during the PMD day?
00:38:34Um... Yeah, it's a mix of both.
00:38:37It's not... I can't blame it all on the cold sore.
00:38:39I can't, and I'm not going to do that.
00:38:41So, if you're being real,
00:38:44what is it that you'd like to say to Christina at the moment?
00:38:47Um...
00:38:49Don't hold back. No, I'm not.
00:38:51Let us get me words, though.
00:38:53Yeah, take your time.
00:38:59And this is going to be hard to hear.
00:39:01I think it's something you've probably heard before,
00:39:03and I really don't want to be the guy that says it.
00:39:06But...
00:39:08I'm really questioning at the minute...
00:39:11..um...
00:39:17..if I'm able to sustain a relationship...
00:39:22..with someone that suffers with PMDD.
00:39:32I'm really questioning at the minute...
00:39:34..um...
00:39:40..if I'm able to sustain a relationship...
00:39:46..with someone that suffers with PMDD.
00:39:49I'm really questioning at the minute...
00:39:52..um...
00:39:54..if I'm able to sustain a relationship...
00:39:57..with someone that suffers with PMDD.
00:40:00..with someone that suffers with PMDD.
00:40:11I know, Kieran, which is why I've, like, said to you from day one,
00:40:15like, whatever you say to me,
00:40:17it's like nothing I haven't heard before.
00:40:22It's fine, like, it's fine.
00:40:27But...
00:40:28Christina, it's not fine.
00:40:31This is not fine for you.
00:40:33No, but, like, I understand.
00:40:35Like, I understand and, like, respect Kieran's feelings in this.
00:40:41But what about your feelings?
00:40:43Well, it's fucking shit. Right. Yeah.
00:40:45Yeah. Indeed.
00:40:48This is why I prepare myself for the worst in every situation
00:40:53and I live in the moment for every good bit that I have.
00:41:01I'm not saying that I don't want to be with you, cos I do.
00:41:04I want to give this as much as I can.
00:41:06Yeah, but you're not... You're just not...
00:41:08I've got to be with you.
00:41:10I've got to be with you.
00:41:12I've got to be with you.
00:41:14I've got to be with you.
00:41:16You're just not... I've got questions.
00:41:18I think everyone in this room's got questions about their relationship,
00:41:21but I'm not saying I don't want to be with you.
00:41:23That's not what I'm saying here.
00:41:25Right, now all I've got in my head is, if you can't...
00:41:28If you're going to struggle, it's going to be a struggle for life,
00:41:31cos I can't change.
00:41:33But that's something that I'm working out whether I can.
00:41:42I just don't want to get hurt.
00:41:47Everything takes work, and I'm prepared to work at it, Christina.
00:41:53And I'll work at it until there's no bones left.
00:41:58Kieran, good on you for being so incredibly honest just now.
00:42:03Yeah, thank you.
00:42:04I know that was very hard for you to say.
00:42:06I also know that this is not you signalling to Christina,
00:42:10I want out. I know that.
00:42:12It might have felt a little bit that way...
00:42:14Yeah, it does. ..in the moment.
00:42:16But I think the fact that you're both sitting here right now,
00:42:19opening up the way that you are,
00:42:21showing such incredible care and empathy for each other,
00:42:25is such a strong sign that you have incredible potential as a couple.
00:42:32How about we go to the decision?
00:42:34Oh, no, I'm scared now.
00:42:36Christina, why don't you go first?
00:42:40I know I'm the biggest pain in your bum.
00:42:42I know that I am hard work,
00:42:45but I'm looking forward to seeing what's more to come.
00:42:49There's still so much I want to explore with you,
00:42:52so for that reason...
00:42:55I'm smiling!
00:42:56APPLAUSE
00:43:00And Kieran.
00:43:02This week you've shown us that you are there for us,
00:43:05even when I think no-one can be there for us.
00:43:08And you've allowed us to open up
00:43:10in ways that I've never been able to open up in a relationship before,
00:43:14without being attacked.
00:43:16So I think that in itself speaks volumes about the person that you are.
00:43:20So thank you very much.
00:43:22And for that reason, I've wrote Stay.
00:43:24CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:43:28Have a wonderful week.
00:43:30Thank you. Thank you very much, guys.
00:43:32Thank you so much. Thanks, guys.
00:43:34APPLAUSE
00:43:41Next up to the couch, Nathan and Lacey.
00:43:44CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:43:48Hello. Hello.
00:43:50Hi, guys.
00:43:52Lovely to see the two of you.
00:43:54Lovely to see you all.
00:43:56So, tell me about the retreat.
00:44:00How was it for you?
00:44:02I had a great time, yeah. Did you have a good time?
00:44:05I was having a good time.
00:44:07I don't know.
00:44:09I think something's bothering me.
00:44:12He said the other day,
00:44:14I'm not going to say I love you.
00:44:16Like, I love you, not love you.
00:44:18I love you.
00:44:19Until after the experiment, to see if the distance worked.
00:44:23But that a little bit upset me,
00:44:25cos I was like, are you only giving me half, then?
00:44:29I don't want to, like, give her my heart fully.
00:44:32We finished the experiment.
00:44:35What you're doing is you're trying to hedge yourself.
00:44:38You're trying to make it safe.
00:44:40But that's not how love works.
00:44:42Love works as you dive fully into the pool.
00:44:45You can't toe-dip into love.
00:44:47Would either one of you consider relocating?
00:44:50I would in the middle.
00:44:52I need my mumma near me, not going to lie.
00:44:55I need my mumma there.
00:44:57I think if I can find my mumma,
00:44:59I'm going to do it.
00:45:02I think if I can find the work,
00:45:04depending on circumstances, I could relocate, yeah.
00:45:08For me, I can definitely feel in love.
00:45:11I just feel like the word is different,
00:45:14saying the word, you know?
00:45:16OK, so the word is of high importance to you.
00:45:20Yeah.
00:45:21But what I'm here to tell you
00:45:23is the action is of higher importance,
00:45:25and you're already exhibiting the action.
00:45:28You've just said you will move.
00:45:30Mm.
00:45:31Yeah, I'd like the word to be in the right timing,
00:45:34you know what I mean? A special moment.
00:45:36So you're saying that you already love Lacey,
00:45:39but you're waiting for the moment to tell her
00:45:42that is important to you.
00:45:45Maybe.
00:45:46LAUGHTER
00:45:48So, Lacey, where would you say you are in terms of love?
00:45:54Yeah, no, I do feel it, like, yeah.
00:45:58Yeah.
00:46:03I think it's very clear to see that you guys are in a really good place.
00:46:07So let's go to a decision.
00:46:12Erm, what I wrote was easy, of course.
00:46:17You know, I can see that we are growing closer.
00:46:20You know, I'm really still happy with you, and that's why I've put stay.
00:46:27Thank you, Lacey. And, Nathan, what's your decision?
00:46:30So, obviously, you're going to take on board what you've said,
00:46:33and I feel the same way as Lace, so I'm also going to stay.
00:46:36Excellent, thank you. Well done.
00:46:38OK, guys, so, a big well done for sharing how you feel today.
00:46:43OK? Have a good week.
00:46:50APPLAUSE
00:46:57Next up on the couch, Emma and Kasper.
00:47:00CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:47:05Hello, my lovelies, hello.
00:47:08So let's look at your week.
00:47:10Definitely we're having a far better week,
00:47:13in terms of just being around each other, laughing, being more comfortable.
00:47:18The first half of the treat for me was really good,
00:47:21but there was a slight change for me in the second half
00:47:24with Emma's behaviour. Oh.
00:47:28Emma was getting advice from the girls and everyone else,
00:47:31going, well, you've just got to sleep with him.
00:47:34If we get intimate, we're going to accelerate our relationship,
00:47:38and that's not how I go about things.
00:47:40I need the emotional side first
00:47:42before I get to the intimate side from someone,
00:47:45and we're still working on that, in my opinion.
00:47:48And Michelle gave me some advice to get a kiss.
00:47:51I thought, right, I'm going, I'm going, we're going in.
00:47:54So you did have a kiss. Yeah.
00:47:56And how would you describe that experience, Kasper?
00:48:02I think it was a very good kiss, I can tell you that much for free.
00:48:06So you enjoyed it? Yeah, it was a good kiss. Yeah.
00:48:09But there were comments made afterwards,
00:48:12after we'd just kissed, that were way too far forward
00:48:15and crossed lots of lines.
00:48:17She basically went, why don't you just stay
00:48:19and then we can shag for a week?
00:48:21I mean, it wasn't the most romantic pitch I've ever heard,
00:48:24if I'm being completely honest. She scared him off.
00:48:28I think that was just me exploring things.
00:48:30You know, I'd had a few wines, I got a bit excited.
00:48:33It almost felt like sex was a sales pitch. Yeah.
00:48:36And that wasn't attractive for me.
00:48:39Kasper writing leave in the last commitment ceremony,
00:48:43although I expected it,
00:48:45it built a fight in me to want to work on things.
00:48:53And I think, what I meant to say was,
00:48:56I think there are things for us to explore when it comes to intimacy.
00:49:01Now I'm scared that Kasper has ended this week
00:49:05the same headspace that he ended last weekend.
00:49:11I think it goes back to not putting pressure on yourself
00:49:14and doing things at a pace that feels right for you,
00:49:17but also remembering a kiss and sex,
00:49:19there's so many other ways that you can form
00:49:22intimate connections with your partner.
00:49:26OK, let's get to the decisions.
00:49:29Emil first.
00:49:32I'm proud of myself for listening and showing you
00:49:36that I can take on feedback and I want to learn and I want to develop.
00:49:40And I think there are definitely things to explore with us.
00:49:45But I hear you, I would like to, yeah, spend some more time together.
00:49:49Aw. Yay! Well done, Emil.
00:49:56Kasper, what's your decision?
00:49:58I mean, honestly, I am denied.
00:50:04A few days ago, I was relieved to be away and gone out
00:50:09and thinking that's where my head's at.
00:50:12And so that felt really good when I wrote it, I'm not going to lie.
00:50:16I let go of a lot of emotions.
00:50:18I'm reluctant to say staying,
00:50:20and then almost being, again, feel dragged along
00:50:23into something that I don't feel comfortable with.
00:50:26I don't feel comfortable with it.
00:50:44A few days ago, I was relieved to be away and gone out
00:50:49and thinking that's where my head's at.
00:50:52And so that felt really good when I wrote it, I'm not going to lie.
00:50:55I let go of a lot of emotions.
00:50:57I'm reluctant to say staying,
00:50:59and then almost being, again, feel dragged along
00:51:02into something that I don't feel comfortable with.
00:51:10But we're still building on this.
00:51:14Emma and I, you know, I think we deserve to keep having another shot at this
00:51:19for a little bit longer, see where we get to,
00:51:21because we have made strides.
00:51:23For me, I wrote Stay.
00:51:25CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:51:31Oh, thank God!
00:51:33We wish you all the very best.
00:51:35Thank you very much. Well done, guys.
00:51:37APPLAUSE
00:51:44Next up on the couch, Sasha and Ross.
00:51:47APPLAUSE
00:51:50Hey, guys. Hello.
00:51:53Hey, guys.
00:51:55How was your time at the retreat?
00:51:57Was it nice to get away?
00:51:59No, I hated it. Oh!
00:52:01Tell us about it.
00:52:02I just hate the countryside and being away from everything.
00:52:05I felt like it was a taste of hell,
00:52:07so I'm going to be a really good person from now on.
00:52:09Wow. OK.
00:52:11And so apart from the physical discomfort, shall I say,
00:52:15was there anything else that made it like hell for you?
00:52:19Obviously, all the drama has affected, like, the girls a little bit.
00:52:23Like, we're usually quite a happy family,
00:52:25but there has been some explosive arguments between the girls,
00:52:28which is really rare.
00:52:30But as a couple, it doesn't really affect us.
00:52:32Like, when we're at the dinner party,
00:52:34it's like we're sitting on the end and it all happens there.
00:52:37And we're in just, like, our little bubble.
00:52:39I'm a very argumentative person.
00:52:41So, yeah, we're good.
00:52:45I just hate being away from him, like, the girls.
00:52:47They're like, oh, I just can't wait to see my husband.
00:52:52Now, we know that the two of you are choosing not to open up
00:52:55and share too much of the physical journey with us,
00:52:57and we respect that.
00:52:59But what's important for us to understand is,
00:53:01are the two of you talking about it,
00:53:03and do you feel that things are progressing
00:53:05in the right direction for you?
00:53:09Yes.
00:53:11LAUGHTER
00:53:14Very concise.
00:53:16That's fair.
00:53:18The two of you have created a really safe, trusting environment.
00:53:21Yeah. You're going really well.
00:53:25Well, on that note, let's go to the decision.
00:53:28Ross, over to you first.
00:53:40APPLAUSE
00:53:42Lovely.
00:53:44So, I was going to start Molly's speech.
00:53:48We've learnt a lot about each other,
00:53:50and I want to spend the rest of my life with you,
00:53:53and you already know that.
00:53:55So, I wrote, stay always.
00:53:58Oh, wonderful.
00:54:01Wonderful.
00:54:03And, yes, that comment was not lost on us.
00:54:05I know, right? No, not at all.
00:54:07Nice little mic drop there from Sasha.
00:54:09Thank you so much. Thank you.
00:54:11Well done.
00:54:14APPLAUSE
00:54:18Next up on the couch...
00:54:20..can we have...
00:54:25..Orson and Rochelle.
00:54:27APPLAUSE
00:54:34Hello.
00:54:36Hello.
00:54:38So, I understand it's been a tough week for the two of you.
00:54:43Yes, it has. Yeah. It has been.
00:54:48Why don't we start with where we left off
00:54:51at the last commitment ceremony?
00:54:54So, can we just go back a little bit to the commitment ceremony?
00:54:59I made it quite clear to him that I was ready to leave
00:55:02and I wanted to go back to work,
00:55:04and if I left, I could get home in time for my daughter's 21st birthday.
00:55:09When I re-entered the process after I left the first time,
00:55:12I said, yeah, I'm not going to leave again
00:55:14until we're on the same page.
00:55:16Orson said that he wanted to stay another week,
00:55:20which to me was a bit surprising,
00:55:22because at this point I'd been very open and honest with him.
00:55:25I'd basically told him, I don't think I'm attracted to you.
00:55:29I don't overly fancy you.
00:55:31Wow.
00:55:33Wow, wow, what? Continue, continue.
00:55:35Wow, wow, what? No, just continue.
00:55:37I know that you don't have a great relationship with the truth, Orson,
00:55:41so it's OK. Yeah, just continue.
00:55:43So, you know, I said to him, I think you're quite selfish.
00:55:46You basically have locked me in for another week,
00:55:49you've dragged me along for your experience,
00:55:52when you know there's nothing there.
00:55:54Then on the day of the retreat, that was my daughter's actual birthday,
00:55:58I was, like, visibly, you know, upset.
00:56:01And, you know, Orson's making this big show of singing
00:56:04and enjoying himself, you know.
00:56:07At this point now, I'm getting worked up,
00:56:09and I haven't even been able to wish my girl a happy birthday,
00:56:12and he's singing in my face.
00:56:16And at that moment, I knew I could not stand him.
00:56:21You couldn't stand me from before that?
00:56:23I can't stand the sight of him. Can I say something really quickly?
00:56:26If you knew I couldn't stand you before, why did you want to stay?
00:56:29You're the one that said you wanted to stay to work out,
00:56:32No, no, no, you are lying.
00:56:34That's exactly what you said.
00:56:35You are a stinking liar.
00:56:37You are a stinking liar.
00:56:39Because I was the one who told you I wanted to leave,
00:56:41I was the one who told you that I wanted to get back for my daughter's birthday,
00:56:44so don't sit here and lie, all right?
00:56:46Your lies don't work with me, Orson.
00:56:53You finished? Can I speak now?
00:56:54Stop. If you can tell the truth, try and tell the truth.
00:56:57It's okay, guys.
00:56:58It's very clear that things have completely broken down here.
00:57:05I'd like to hear from both of you
00:57:08where you believe the relationship is at right now.
00:57:12Orson, let's start with you.
00:57:14There is no relationship right now.
00:57:18Michelle.
00:57:19At the retreat, Orson and Hannah have been bonding.
00:57:23And they have had talks about recoupling.
00:57:32Oh, wow.
00:57:33Yeah, wow, indeed.
00:57:35Orson's backed himself. He's finally found his queen.
00:57:41That reinforced that Orson isn't really here for the right reasons.
00:57:46He's even had a little bromance going on with Stephen
00:57:50while behind Stephen's back,
00:57:53Orson and Hannah were, you know, talking amongst themselves.
00:58:00Which continued once we returned from the retreat,
00:58:03and I walked in last night and found Orson and Hannah.
00:58:08Holly and Alex almost like having a little double date set up.
00:58:13So all that did was reinforce...
00:58:17We weren't. We were all sat in separate chairs.
00:58:19Chill out, Michelle. Chill with that business.
00:58:21That's not true.
00:58:22Chill with that business, Michelle.
00:58:24Exactly.
00:58:25Alex, just shut up.
00:58:27Michelle, don't do that.
00:58:28Alex, Alex.
00:58:29Michelle, don't do that.
00:58:30No, I think it's bullshit because they're meant to have lips.
00:58:34They've what?
00:58:35Kissed. They've kissed. Him and Hannah.
00:58:37Oh, you've kissed? Him and Hannah.
00:58:39The very last night of the retreat.
00:58:42You've been kissing him?
00:59:04No, I think it's bullshit because they're meant to have lips.
00:59:12They've what?
00:59:13Kissed. They've kissed. Him and Hannah.
00:59:15Oh, you've kissed? Him and Hannah.
00:59:17The very last night of the retreat.
00:59:19You've been kissing him?
00:59:28So why the fuck are you trying to defend when they've been bitching?
00:59:31Why the fuck are you trying to defend when they've been...
00:59:33That's wrong.
00:59:33What are you talking about?
00:59:36Fucking Snake, man.
00:59:39Snake, you.
00:59:40Me?
00:59:40Yeah, you.
00:59:42Where was the double date?
00:59:43I didn't say anything about the double date.
00:59:44No, I didn't say that.
00:59:45How have they not been sneakily kissing?
00:59:47I know you didn't be.
00:59:48So fix him.
00:59:49I'll tell him.
00:59:49Sort him out.
00:59:50Don't talk about no double date business.
00:59:52There was no double date business.
00:59:53Four of them were in the apartment.
00:59:55Let me rephrase that, Alex.
00:59:56You're talking shit, man.
00:59:57You're talking shit, man.
00:59:58Alex.
01:00:00I'm just getting fucking pissed off now.
01:00:02You got something to say?
01:00:05Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.
01:00:07I'm just asking you if you got something to say.
01:00:08You got anything to say to me?
01:00:09Don't do that to me, Alex.
01:00:10I'm asking you if you got something to say.
01:00:11Alex, can you just stop?
01:00:12I don't think you need to turn to Rochelle and say,
01:00:14you're talking fucking shit.
01:00:15And then get a lie to say,
01:00:16oh, you're my fucking snake.
01:00:18There's certain ways of addressing things calmly.
01:00:20Like, you know what, Rochelle?
01:00:21It weren't a double date.
01:00:22This happened.
01:00:23You don't need to attack, attack, attack, attack.
01:00:25And I've sat here and I've watched you
01:00:26attack the women either end.
01:00:28And it's fucked me off because I didn't like it, Alex.
01:00:30Well, he is talking shit.
01:00:31She doesn't know what she's talking about.
01:00:32She doesn't know what she's talking about.
01:00:33There's just ways to address things, Alex.
01:00:35Calm down.
01:00:36Don't take it out on me.
01:00:37I'm just trying to calm the peace in the room.
01:00:39Who is taking anything out on you?
01:00:40Please respect the forum.
01:00:41Oh, my God.
01:00:42I'm about to...
01:00:46It's going to be such a good night.
01:00:51Holly's annoyed.
01:00:52I told Lacey that I think she's a snake.
01:00:55And now you've got Sasha coming at me.
01:00:57Just be quiet.
01:00:58Your voice is just going straight through me.
01:01:00Like, if I was Rochelle, I'd be telling my wife,
01:01:02pipe down, not everything needs your two pence.
01:01:08Alex has definitely overreacted and it has embarrassed me.
01:01:12I can't be with a man who treats my friends like that.
01:01:16Because if he's going to treat my friends like that,
01:01:18he can happily treat me like that.
01:01:24Now, amongst all of the talking,
01:01:25it sounded like someone said you and Hannah have kissed.
01:01:27Yes.
01:01:33On the last night of the retreat,
01:01:35me and Hannah sat and were speaking,
01:01:37and we shared a kiss.
01:01:40There was a little connection there.
01:01:41I'm not going to lie, there was a little connection there.
01:01:44What I had was done.
01:01:45I know what she was in was done.
01:01:49Like, so, honestly, I didn't feel like I was walking on anybody's toes
01:01:52or, like, disrespecting anyone.
01:01:56The fact is that this is a process, isn't it?
01:01:58And so, if you don't want to be with someone,
01:02:01you both understand the rules.
01:02:03And the rules is that you make that decision here,
01:02:05and you let us know.
01:02:07It's not that you then go and kiss another person's wife.
01:02:15I take that.
01:02:22That's done it, mate.
01:02:25Come.
01:02:27Move it.
01:02:31Do you consider what you did an act of infidelity?
01:02:37In this process, yes.
01:02:40What impact did you expect that to have on Rochelle?
01:02:44If I'm being totally honest, man,
01:02:46and this might come across as sound wrongly,
01:02:52I didn't really care about Rochelle in that moment.
01:02:56At the end of the day, Orson,
01:02:58from when I said I didn't like you and I didn't fancy you
01:03:01and I didn't see a future with us,
01:03:03I mean, at that point,
01:03:04I thought you would have gathered up your dignity
01:03:06and wanted to leave anyway.
01:03:09You know, why would you have wanted to stay?
01:03:11I mean, I know I was trying to honour my word,
01:03:14but where was your self-respect and your dignity?
01:03:17Like, were you that desperate to stay in the process?
01:03:21Because what I'm sensing from Orson
01:03:23is a desperation to stay in the process by any means necessary.
01:03:29He saw an opportunity with Hannah
01:03:31to recouple and stay in the process.
01:03:33He jumped at it.
01:03:37You're an embarrassment to yourself at this point.
01:03:39Do you know what I mean?
01:03:40Because it's like Hannah, bless her,
01:03:42went round all the different guys
01:03:44trying to latch on to somebody.
01:03:46No, I didn't.
01:03:47Yes, to stay in the process.
01:03:48Orson is the only one who's stuck.
01:03:52It just reeks of desperation and just, like, you know,
01:03:56no self-respect.
01:03:57It's just, I find it embarrassing.
01:03:59I, you know...
01:04:00OK, well, look, it is very clear that this relationship is done.
01:04:05We do need to go to the decision.
01:04:07Orson, to you first.
01:04:09Um...
01:04:13I came here with the right intention.
01:04:15I feel like I was trying and trying and trying and trying,
01:04:19just, like, squeezing blood from a stone.
01:04:22Stop the performance, Orson. Stop the performance, I beg you.
01:04:25Um, so... Stop the performance.
01:04:27If it was that bad, you would not have wanted to stay.
01:04:30On that note...
01:04:32You know?
01:04:33On that note, like, just get me out of here, please.
01:04:36And to you, Rochelle.
01:04:39Before I came into this process,
01:04:42I asked for a strong...
01:04:46..intelligent...
01:04:49..man who has a bit of integrity,
01:04:52and I haven't found that in Orson at all.
01:04:57I find him quite weak-willed.
01:04:59He's... You really aren't as sharp as you think you are.
01:05:03It's pretty obvious, I think, to most people that you're a bit simple.
01:05:12He definitely lacks any shred of integrity.
01:05:17So, one week too late, but it's obvious.
01:05:22Leave.
01:05:29There are certain expectations around respect.
01:05:32Some of those points of respect have been broken by both of you.
01:05:36By you, Rochelle, not turning up to dinner parties,
01:05:39showing disrespect not only to Orson,
01:05:41but to everyone else here, including us, and the experiment.
01:05:44Orson, kissing another person,
01:05:47the two of you are showing very low level of regard
01:05:51for this entire process.
01:05:54And that's something we don't take lightly.
01:05:57It's really disappointing.
01:06:01You can both take a seat. Thank you.
01:06:09APPLAUSE
01:06:13That's three rounds to one, and Rochelle's to level.
01:06:23Well, this has been both a challenging...
01:06:29..and enlightening commitment ceremony.
01:06:32Please say your goodbyes to those leaving the process.
01:06:37APPLAUSE
01:06:38This group has got very happy.
01:06:40And you very quickly, all in a night.
01:06:48Hey, come on, man.
01:06:51You could have told me. You could have told me.
01:06:55I came on here for love. I came on here to find my person.
01:06:59Hannah was bouncing from husband to husband.
01:07:01She kissed Orson.
01:07:02I didn't give it my all, but she didn't deserve my all.
01:07:08I've fucked up so much.
01:07:12I do feel a bit bad about what me and Orson have done.
01:07:15We tried to shut it down just out of respect for everyone else,
01:07:18but actually we keep gravitating back towards each other.
01:07:21And Stephen checked out ages ago.
01:07:24There was no trying, there was no support,
01:07:27so I don't feel like I got a fair shot at marriage.
01:07:34Are you OK? Mm-hm.
01:07:36I definitely do not regret kissing Hannah.
01:07:44Rochelle picked up everything, really,
01:07:48and there's only so much a man can take.
01:07:51We're waiting on that.
01:07:53Thanks a lot. I had your back.
01:07:56I think Orson's just shown his true colours,
01:07:59and my intuition about him was right all along.
01:08:02I genuinely don't think that Hannah likes Orson.
01:08:05I don't even think he really likes her.
01:08:08He's just trying to recoup some of his manhood
01:08:12that he probably feels has been stripped from him
01:08:15during this process.
01:08:16It just screams of desperation.
01:08:19Orson is a clown, and I just want it out of the circus show.
01:08:25Yo. Rush.
01:08:28I'll talk to you in a bit.
01:08:31If he's beefs with me, why is he talking to my husband?
01:08:34Do you know?
01:08:35Why does he want to talk to my husband and talk to me?
01:08:37I think I've fucked her. Yeah, I've fucked her.
01:08:41Alex has just got an attitude problem.
01:08:43I can completely see where Holly's been coming from this whole time.
01:08:46I'm not going to tolerate it.
01:08:48Why is he going to talk to you and not me?
01:08:50I don't know, baby. I'm getting involved in driving,
01:08:52so that's not my fucking problem.
01:08:54Not your problem? So your wife isn't your problem?
01:08:57I just drive, but I don't get in trouble.
01:08:59Do you think I'm trying to get involved in drama?
01:09:01That's not what I'm doing, Ross.
01:09:06Right now, it doesn't feel like Ross has my back,
01:09:09but we're married, I'm his wife.
01:09:11I would have expected Ross to say,
01:09:13don't talk to my wife that way.
01:09:16I'll talk to you in a bit. I don't get involved in driving.
01:09:19But I find your problem, Ross.
01:09:21Why am I getting involved in all this shit?
01:09:23It's not their shit, it's more than Alex's shit.
01:09:26It's against you, Danielle, I get that.
01:09:28You should have your wife's back, always.
01:09:30I will have her back 100%.
01:09:32100% yeah, always, yeah.
01:09:34My drama is your drama, your drama is my drama.
01:09:36100% yeah.
01:09:42Next time...
01:09:43I'm interested to see what you don't like about me.
01:09:45Honey, there's a lot more than what you think there is.
01:09:47..it's Love Hate Week...
01:09:49Good luck. Good luck.
01:09:50..where honesty is crucial...
01:09:53Lack of intimacy.
01:09:55You lack depth.
01:09:56What's that mean?
01:09:57..for some couples...
01:09:58Happy tears.
01:09:59..it draws them closer together.
01:10:01Is it the most romantic thing someone's ever done for you?
01:10:04Yeah.
01:10:05I am feeling quite giddy, it's just...
01:10:07Why did you do it?
01:10:09I'm going to give you a hand.
01:10:11..but others can't even get the task off the ground.
01:10:14I'm really unhappy.
01:10:16I'm going home today.
01:10:18Why?
01:10:19Get me out of here.
01:10:21I am not running after my wife.
01:10:23..while Sasha and Ross...
01:10:25And he went to Sydney, froze it up the wall.
01:10:27..face their biggest challenge yet.
01:10:29I am not comfortable with you being in this apartment.
01:10:33I am going to struggle to recover from this.
01:10:36It's fucked up my head.
01:10:38Right, I'm going.
01:10:39HE GROWLS
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