Tras un meticuloso trabajo de rescate, Rosa, la exdueña del Apart Hotel Dubrovnik, fue encontrada entre los escombros del edificio colapsado. El equipo de rescate trabajó durante horas para liberarla, utilizando una grúa para remover miles de kilos de hormigón. Además, se logró rescatar al perro de Rosa, que fue entregado a la familia por orden del fiscal. Habría entre 6 personas bajo los escombros. habló Javier Alonso, ministro de Seguridad PBA: "SEGUIMOS BUSCANDO A NAHUEL Y A DANA"
"Los perros marcaron una zona"
"La fiscal está reuniendo información"
"Hay que reconstruir todo lo que pasó"
"Trabajamos dos horas para sacar el cuerpo de Rosa"
"Rescatamos al perrito muerto de Rosa"
"Los bomberos construyeron un túnel"
"Los escombros llegan al segundo subsuelo"
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"Los perros marcaron una zona"
"La fiscal está reuniendo información"
"Hay que reconstruir todo lo que pasó"
"Trabajamos dos horas para sacar el cuerpo de Rosa"
"Rescatamos al perrito muerto de Rosa"
"Los bomberos construyeron un túnel"
"Los escombros llegan al segundo subsuelo"
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00:00Let's talk to the minister.
00:02You are seeing images that we are using to work.
00:09Here you have an aerial view that shows the building.
00:13As you can see, there are three volumes.
00:15The volume that you are seeing from here, which is the one that remained standing.
00:19Then, above this volume, one more floor, was the apartment of Mrs. Rosa,
00:25which occupied the entire front.
00:27And it was a sort of transition of several meters until it reached the volume of the tower,
00:32which had ten more floors.
00:34So, there are three volumes.
00:36Otherwise, it seems that it is a single building, but it is not a single building.
00:39So, we have the volume of the building that is standing,
00:42a transition area until it reaches the ten-story tower,
00:46and in the background we have another building,
00:50which is another structure that has the same height as Rosa's apartment.
00:55So, we found Rosa at the limit of the building that remained standing,
01:01with the transition building below.
01:03More or less at the height of the street.
01:06She was on a fourth floor, and more or less at the height that we are,
01:12we found Rosa and rescued her.
01:16The issue is, as I explained to you,
01:19we got to Rosa through a tunnel that we built.
01:23We worked more than two and a half hours to free the body and be able to bring it.
01:29After rescuing the body and rescuing Rosa,
01:32we found that she was giving in to the tunnel.
01:36From there we brought this crane, which is much bigger,
01:39and between two and a half in the morning, eight and a half in the morning,
01:42we took out thousands of kilos of concrete.
01:45We took out three slabs 12 meters wide by four and a half meters deep,
01:50from the front.
01:52That allowed us to aim at the tunnel again,
01:55and we are already working inside the tunnel.
01:57We rescued Rosa's puppy,
02:00who was like a son to Rosa,
02:02and that the family had asked us, please,
02:05that the puppy was probably close to her.
02:08We were able to recover Rosa's dog.
02:10The prosecutor gave us the order
02:12to give the puppy's body to Rosa's family,
02:16and that's what we're doing right now.
02:18What you see, the relatives have already seen it.
02:21We have several videos that people sent
02:25who were in the background,
02:27who were in the structure in the background,
02:29which was left free,
02:31about the Lindero building that was destroyed.
02:34There are videos of what you see from the window.
02:37Some experts in image analysis
02:39are going to locate the exact place
02:41where the apartment would be
02:43if the building was standing,
02:45and from there we are going to deepen the search.
02:48We see, the firefighters have built a tunnel
02:51from that structure in the background
02:53that goes out to the staircase that is there.
02:56There is a staircase that can be seen.
02:58That tunnel goes out through that staircase,
03:00and through that tunnel
03:02we are walking the dogs.
03:04The dogs have marked an area around there.
03:07We are working with the sonars
03:10and with the probes to see what we find.
03:12The videos they gave us are very important
03:15because there we identified a lot of objects
03:17that they used,
03:19and that then, when the firefighters
03:21begin to clear the rubble,
03:23if we visualize the bicycle,
03:26the lamp, the buses,
03:28we will know that we are in the place
03:30near where they can be.
03:32Are there signs of life?
03:34We still don't hear any signal.
03:36It doesn't mean they're not there,
03:38but we don't hear anything.
03:40The dogs have marked a place.
03:42We are still looking for Nahuel and Dana,
03:45who would be near Rosa.
03:47What is the search radius in that case?
03:49The search radius is the area
03:52that would be immediately behind
03:55the building that is standing,
03:57and before the building.
03:59What you see in the images
04:01is, with some red lines that we draw,
04:03is how the building fell,
04:06which fell slightly
04:08towards the area of the Lindero building,
04:10and the balconies in front
04:12fell a little forward.
04:14We removed those balconies,
04:16almost all of them.
04:18We must be at the height of the building,
04:20more or less, of Rosa's apartment.
04:22Approximately, they fell lower.
04:24Keep in mind,
04:26you may have seen it on Google,
04:28that there are two car entrances,
04:30one that goes up and the other down.
04:32The one that goes down
04:34has an underground car park,
04:36and below that car park
04:38all that layer also collapsed,
04:40with which the apartments
04:42are in the second basement.
04:44The rubble reaches
04:46a second basement.
04:48Wasn't Rosa's apartment on the first floor?
04:50Rosa's apartment was up there,
04:52where you see those rubble.
04:54There was Rosa's apartment,
04:56which was two meters inside
04:58this structure and then all the way back.
05:00And that would be
05:02a third floor from here, let's say.
05:04A third floor from here.
05:06We found that
05:08from the height of the street.
05:10The tunnel hole was made
05:12and we had to go down from there.
05:14And regarding the search for the employees,
05:16who would be a little higher up?
05:18The search for the employees
05:20is apparently in the basement area.
05:22The dogs marked there.
05:24At the same height, sorry.
05:26Yes, at the same height, in the basement.
05:28Yes, in the tower that collapsed.
05:30Minister, with the new crane,
05:32will the time be accelerated
05:34Of course, because we are removing...
05:36The crane can lift
05:38almost 8 tons,
05:40but the maximum volume
05:42that we lift,
05:44by what a slab means,
05:46by the hairs of the irons that come out of the slab,
05:48more or less,
05:50are 3,800, 4,000 kilos,
05:52the maximum we are lifting.
05:54The important thing to rescue
05:56the workers
05:58is that this crane
06:00has 25 meters more work
06:02because with the previous crane
06:04we did not reach the bottom,
06:06with this crane we will reach the bottom.
06:08Do you think that today they will be able
06:10to rescue all the bodies at this rate?
06:12I don't think so.
06:14I mean, doing 5 meters
06:16is a lot of time
06:18because you have to cut concrete
06:20and you have to do it carefully
06:22and you have to document everything we find.
06:24Minister, do the teams work by sector
06:26or are there several teams working?
06:28No, no, there are several sectors
06:30identified and there are several teams
06:32that work with the sectors.
06:34At the same time.
06:36Do you continue to work with the two types of dogs?
06:38I mean, those who look for life
06:40and those who unfortunately look for corpses?
06:42Yes, what happens is that
06:44when ...
06:46Yes, we work like this.
06:48It gets more and more difficult
06:50because the gases make it difficult
06:52to smell the work of the dog
06:54that looks for life, let's say.
06:56So that makes it more difficult for the dog,
06:58but it doesn't matter.
07:00Here, what we have to understand
07:02is that if
07:04in the collapse
07:06a beam or a forceful element
07:08hit a vital part of the body,
07:10it will be more complicated.
07:12But if it didn't hit
07:14a part of the body,
07:16it may be that someone is trapped
07:18with a lower or higher limb,
07:20but that it is in good condition
07:22and can last many days.
07:24So we are going to cling
07:26to that possibility and we are going to
07:28continue working, thinking about that possibility.
07:30We see that the rubble
07:32that they are taking out ...
07:34... are parsley, because they are
07:36four albanian breeds that would not have
07:38responsibility and that calls their attention
07:40that there are no authorities
07:42who have had to appear
07:44and in principle, well, that the justice
07:46has made another determination
07:48for the responsibility that this implies.
07:50We have to understand
07:52the criminal process
07:54of the province of Buenos Aires.
07:56The prosecutor
07:58is in a moment of gathering
08:00information.
08:02The four people
08:04who are detained are
08:06key because they are the people
08:08who were doing the tasks.
08:10They are the people who were doing the tasks.
08:12If they hadn't left, they would be under the rubble.
08:14And well, okay, but
08:16they are the people we recover with life
08:18and there, if we had
08:20recovered them with life and they were in the rubble,
08:22they would go to the hospital, but they would be involved
08:24in the cause. So,
08:26they can provide us with a lot of information.
08:28Yes?
08:30Then, they, I mean,
08:32the actions,
08:34the course of the actions
08:36place them in the place and place them with the task
08:38that they are doing, which is highly,
08:40which is highly related to the effects
08:42of the prosecutor, with which
08:44merit, detention is deserved.
08:46Then, what the prosecutor is doing
08:48is looking for all the people
08:50who have a responsibility
08:52related to the subject.
08:54Then, there are the previous owners,
08:56the current owners. There are the architects
08:58who appear
09:00in the administrative files
09:02of the current owners and the architects,
09:04engineers who appear
09:06in the papers of the current owners.
09:08Then, due to the informal
09:10characteristic of the construction work,
09:12yes?
09:14Different people are hired
09:16who are fulfilling different functions.
09:18Throughout these days, our police
09:20have identified a lot of people
09:22who worked and who provided
09:24very valuable information for the cause
09:26of what the works would be
09:28that have been carried out in that place.
09:30Responsibilities are being established,
09:32contractors, yes?
09:34Who are going to have to pay bills
09:36before the justice. The level of responsibility
09:38is going to...
09:40The prosecutor has to propose
09:42a theory of what happened,
09:44he has to build the scientific evidence.
09:46We also need a technical report
09:48that validates
09:50the testimonies of the people.
09:52That technical report
09:54we are going to be able to carry out
09:56when the rubble is lifted
09:58and the expertise can be done.
10:00And that takes time.
10:02So, the truth is that this is a very important tragedy.
10:04I understand the dynamics,
10:06but we have to understand
10:08that the process times
10:10mean to rebuild everything that happened.
10:12There are a lot of people we have identified.
10:14The prosecutor does not stop
10:16taking testimonial statements.
10:18There are a lot of people identified.
10:20They are taking forward measures
10:22that when she authorizes me,
10:24I am going to communicate them.
10:26And the final responsibility will come
10:28when we have evidence
10:30that corroborates the testimonies.
10:32And for that we have to finish
10:34cleaning the ground,
10:36see how the foundations are.
10:38Obviously, if the building collapses,
10:40it is not because a carpentry was changed
10:42but because something happened
10:44in the foundations, in the columns.
10:46So, we have to work
10:48with that dynamic.
10:50How do you continue in the next few hours?
10:52Are you still working
10:54in this tunnel that you have made?
10:56How does the operation continue?
10:58We have stamped the tunnel.
11:00The dogs entered.
11:02They are still marking in the same place.
11:04We are advancing in the search.
11:06They think that doing
11:08a meter, a meter and a half,
11:10two meters in one direction
11:12implies moving one thing,
11:14moving the other, stamping.
11:16These are hours that are passing
11:18and now that we are,
11:20I don't know what time it is,
11:22but that's why we've been
11:24I don't know how many hours,
11:2660 hours of search
11:28approximately from one in the morning.
11:30And we are going to continue.
11:32This is uninterrupted.
11:34We are attending different fronts
11:36and we are going to continue doing that.
11:38Has there been a confirmed find
11:40in the apartment so far?
11:42No, we have a person
11:44that we rescued alive, the woman.
11:46That's in the other building.
11:48Yes, but it's the same,
11:50it's all the same phenomenon.
11:52We worked 10 hours to rescue
11:54the lady,
11:56her husband died
11:58and now Rosa also died
12:00and the dog of Rosa.
12:02And finally, in my case,
12:04do you have estimated the distance
12:06between where they are now
12:08and where, perhaps,
12:10the end point is?
12:12No, we don't know.
12:14We are still looking for them,
12:16the dogs are marking them
12:18and we are going to continue moving forward.
12:20How many people were caught?
12:22We always said it,
12:24for justice,
12:26from the relatives
12:28who showed up,
12:30there are 7 people in this,
12:32that is, there were 9,
12:34there are documents of each one,
12:36there is a chronological nomenclature,
12:38there are drone recordings
12:40that are sent to the expert
12:42and to the prosecutor
12:44and there are many photographs
12:46as each piece is documented,
12:48each piece that is taken out.