" PTI Kay Khilaaf Munazzam Propaganda Kya Ja Raha Hai Ke Party Mein Taqseem Hai. ." Sheikh Waqas
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00:00Pascal Pitya is in the news for all the wrong reasons.
00:02Sometimes there is a big internal uproar,
00:06party leaders are after each other,
00:10newspapers are being adorned, Twitter wars are also going on, everything is happening.
00:14Then now this thing has started that two groups have been formed,
00:17of Aleema Bibi and Busha Bibi, and that these two have become the centers of power.
00:22And it is being said that Gandapur Sahib and Shibli Farah Sahib,
00:25they have the support of Busha Bibi, the other group is there.
00:30Who is in charge right now?
00:32And are these two really irrelevant in PTI's politics?
00:38Look, sir, the first thing is that this impression is completely wrong
00:42that there are two groups in the party.
00:44For the past one and a half weeks, through an organized propaganda,
00:49this impression is being given that maybe there is such a dividend in the party.
00:54Aleema Khan Sahiba is Imran Khan Sahib's sister-in-law,
00:57and she is respectable for all of us, she is older than us.
01:00And as a result of Khan Sahib's relationship,
01:03her respect and respect is very important for us.
01:05On the other hand, there is Bushra Begum Sahiba,
01:07who has just come from jail after a long imprisonment,
01:10she is Khan Sahib's wife, and she is respectable for us because of that relationship.
01:15As far as these two women are concerned,
01:18they have nothing to do with the politics or political decisions of Direct Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
01:24They meet Khan Sahib as a sister, and Bushra Bibi as a wife.
01:31I don't understand, nor do we have any evidence that we can say that they have interfered in any way.
01:37But this impression is certainly being given.
01:40There is only one in-charge, his name is Imran Khan.
01:45And the rest, be it our chairman, be it the general secretary,
01:50be it me, the information secretary, we are only responsible.
01:53We have been given responsibilities, and we try to…
01:57You talked about impressions, there is a lot of confusion about impressions as well.
02:01The impression is that even Mr. Gandapur said that he played a role in the release of Bushra Bibi.
02:08Sir, he has categorically denied it, Mr. Malik.
02:10I have spoken to him,
02:12because the news has been going on for two days, some journalists have called me,
02:16some have called Ali Amin Khan directly, and he has categorically denied it.
02:20Then why did Barrister Saif say this when he was asked in a program?
02:25He said, I did not ask what he said or did not say,
02:30I just know that he played a role.
02:32So Barrister Saif is his spokesperson, then why did he say this?
02:37Barrister Saif is basically the spokesperson of the KP government.
02:43He is the minister of information here.
02:45But I don't think that he can give a personal statement about him.
02:50Because I have just spoken to him a little while ago.
02:55Again.
02:56So, he laughed and said, I have been denying it for two days,
03:02what other way is there to deny things?
03:05If you are sitting there, then I am sure you must be thinking about what is going to happen next,
03:11how to run the movement.
03:13Every third day, Mr. Ganapur does not give a threat.
03:17The last threat was that if the Chief Justice is not made,
03:20if Senate Judge is not made, then we will close Pakistan.
03:24Then first of all, he himself reached into their oath-taking.
03:27Then we saw that when the Parliamentary Committee was formed,
03:32your members were in it.
03:34Then on the last occasion, you boycotted it.
03:36People's Party and the JUC say that if you were there,
03:40then we would have appointed a judge for Mansoor Ali Shah.
03:43When he left, our numbers were very low.
03:47We had to listen to them.
03:49So, it seems that there is a lot of confusion.
03:51The 26 amendments that you are not agreeing to.
03:54If you allow me, I will clear all these issues.
03:57Yes, please.
04:00Sir, the first thing is that this impression is being given
04:04that we gave the name and then we decided not to sit in that committee.
04:09The name that was given, suddenly the Chief Whip,
04:12by the grace of the government, his phone calls our Chief Whip
04:16and he asks for the name in great haste.
04:18At that time, the two leaders who were available,
04:20after their consultation,
04:22our Chief Whip makes a mistake that he gives that name.
04:26On the same day, in the evening, there is a meeting of the political committee
04:31in which this thing is put forward.
04:33There is a discussion on every aspect of it between 25 people.
04:37And the decision is that it does not matter if they have given the name in haste.
04:41We decide not to attend this committee
04:45because we do not have any role in this.
04:48But if your people were there that day,
04:51Waqas bhai, if your people were there that day,
04:54then JGUI and People's Party say that we had to get Justice Mansoor Ali Shah's name.
05:00This happened in your absence.
05:02Sir, I was coming to that side.
05:05The thing is that this story that we will get Mansoor Ali Shah,
05:09who had no intention or will,
05:12Bilawal sahib kept telling this story to Mulara sahib to convince him.
05:18Because we were constantly telling him not to vote for him.
05:21We were engaging him, convincing him not to vote.
05:24And he was coming again and again.
05:26And we already had a demand that the senior judge should be there.
05:32We were not engaging directly with People's Party.
05:35So, Bilawal was telling all these stories to Mulara,
05:38which I guess, we decided that these people are untrustworthy.
05:43They are liars.
05:44If they cannot fulfill their commitment by delaying a public meeting,
05:48then these liars are not worthy of being trusted.
05:51So, that was not...
05:53There, your chief was at fault.
05:56Now, you have named both Umar Ayub sahib and Shibli Farah sahib in the Judicial Commission after careful consideration.
06:01I named them after careful consideration.
06:03I named them after careful consideration.
06:04And there has been a big deliberation on this as well.
06:06Here, our Malik bhai has a very clever character.
06:08There are 13 people here.
06:10There are 5 judges here.
06:12There will be 2 of our people here.
06:14The rest will be government officials.
06:17If we do not sit down, they will be with the government.
06:20Okay, out of the 5 judges,
06:22Sheikh sahib, listen to me.
06:23Out of the 5 judges, one is the Chief Justice.
06:26Four senior judges are left behind.
06:28Your stance is that
06:30when you have to choose the next Chief Justice from the three senior judges,
06:34then all three judges will not want to take the blame of the government
06:38because they will not get out of the race.
06:40So, these three judges will be the hostages of their future.
06:45So, why are you so confident that
06:48all three or all four judges will vote for them?
06:52Does this mean that your first argument is wrong?
06:55No, no.
06:57Malik bhai, it is like this.
06:59There will be Mullahs' people here.
07:00There will be judges here.
07:01We think that either we can play a critical role here
07:05or we can manoeuvre things
07:08or we can convince people.
07:10We can talk to Mullahs' people on certain issues.
07:13We can convince judges on certain issues.
07:15I think that our role here is possible.
07:18There is a potential that we can play a better role here.
07:22So, you will not boycott the Judicial Commission at any cost?
07:27No, sir.
07:28We have given our names to Shibli sahib from the Senate
07:31and Omar Ayub sahib from the National Assembly.
07:33We have also discussed this with Khan sahib.
07:36And after that, we have approved the name given by Khan sahib.