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00:00This is fine, but sir, tell me a small point, then I will go to Mufti sahib.
00:05Tell me about two things, I will ask one by one.
00:08First is that, again I am saying, if you say that why did the government make a promise to us if it was so bad,
00:13then your point is absolutely right.
00:14So, this has been discussed, I am with you on this.
00:16Now my next question is, in the Ministry of Education, you say I am registering, not in the Ministry of Education.
00:23What is the relationship of the Ministry of Education with this?
00:26What is the relationship of the Ministry of Education with the Ministry of Education?
00:31So, why are you saying that you are from the Ministry of Education?
00:33And you are saying that, sir, it is the institution of Pakistan.
00:35Pakistan Cricket Board is also the institution of Pakistan.
00:37So, you will not be registered in that, right?
00:39What is the relationship of this? Explain this.
00:41Yes, I just understood. So, now you just give me permission.
00:44Then don't ask for 10 minutes. Yes, I am ordering.
00:46No, no, I will not ask for 10 minutes.
00:48I will ask for 1 minute because I am leaving the meeting with you.
00:50I am thankful to you, sir.
00:52The whole meeting is going on.
00:53The thing is, from 1966 till now, we used to take a registration from the Ministry of Education.
00:58Under that registration, we used to register our school as an NGO or an institution.
01:03We used to give our audit report.
01:05The rest, we used to settle our accounts ourselves.
01:08We used to take our donations ourselves.
01:10We used to take our exams ourselves.
01:12In every matter, we were free.
01:14You say that you should leave the Ministry of Education and come to the Ministry of Education.
01:18We are very concerned about Madaris.
01:20We said, thank you very much.
01:22First of all, tell me, who ruined the schools?
01:25Who ruined the universities?
01:27Who ruined the colleges?
01:29Today, there is ice, cocaine, alcohol, all kinds of cases.
01:33Where are the incidents coming from?
01:34Then, let's move forward.
01:35Did you give jobs to the graduates of schools, colleges and universities?
01:39Now, there is no unemployed young man in Pakistan who is asking for a job.
01:43Hey brother, first fix the schools, colleges and universities.
01:46You ruined them.
01:48My question was, what is the relationship between the Ministry of Education and the Ministry of Education?
01:51It is only that they will give us registration from the government.
01:56The rest, we will make our own school register.
01:59We will make its rules and regulations ourselves.
02:03They say, no, come to the Ministry of Education.
02:06We will control it.
02:07We will also make the school register.
02:09Okay, stay with me for two minutes.
02:10I will ask a question to Mufti Sahab.
02:11Then, I will ask you the next question.
02:13If the government says to you,
02:15Now, Mr. Badami, you tell me.
02:19Mr. Mufti Sahab has been listening patiently for a long time.
02:22Mr. Mufti Sahab, now you.
02:24Mr. Badami, now you will give me time.
02:26Tell me, tell me.
02:27Mr. Badami, first tell Mr. Somro.
02:29No, I have to ask you one more question, Mr. Rashid.
02:31I have to ask you one more question in 4-5 minutes.
02:33Yes, Mr. Mufti.
02:34I have asked you the last question.
02:35No, Mr. Badami, tell Mr. Somro.
02:38Tell Mr. Somro to first read that agreement.
02:42He is saying that he is making the same agreement a part of the Act.
02:46That agreement is that we will go under the Ministry of Education.
02:51Tell me, after taking the degree of Madras,
02:55he has to go to HEC for attestation.
02:57He is with the Ministry of Education.
03:00Then, after that, this is also,
03:02perhaps he has no information.
03:05He is issuing HEC equivalence.
03:09He is issuing it to the new jurists as well.
03:11No one has any problem with that.
03:13Listen to the next thing as well.
03:16He is saying that Maulana has talked about one issue.
03:21It is not like that.
03:23Maulana has used a figure of 18,600 Madrasas,
03:28which you are saying.
03:30So, these 18,600 Madrasas,
03:32is it only for one issue?
03:34Among them, 4,000 are of our loyalty.
03:38So, my opinion is that Mr. Somro has not read the things.
03:42Has the government assured you that this agreement,
03:45this law will not be accepted?
03:47Has the government assured you, Mr. Mufti?
03:49No, absolutely not.
03:51If they don't make it,
03:53then we will go to HEC for attestation.
03:57This is not the case.
03:59So, you are saying that they will make the agreement.
04:01This is what you are saying.
04:03No, absolutely not.
04:04How can it be?
04:05We are the main stakeholder of it.
04:07This is what I am saying.
04:10And those who had promised in 2019,
04:13those who have signed,
04:15that they will go with the Ministry of Education.
04:18Among them,
04:20there is no one from the Ministry of Education.
04:23The government has fulfilled all the promises
04:26made under that agreement, Mr. Mufti.
04:29The government is fulfilling all the promises.
04:32At this time,
04:34they have given training
04:36to 2500 students
04:38for technical education.
04:40They have given training to our teachers.
04:42And secondly,
04:44Mr. Somro,
04:46even once in five years,
04:48the Ministry of Education
04:50has not told us
04:52that you have to make this syllabus.
04:54We have made the syllabus ourselves.
04:56We have our own committee.
04:58We have a 25-member committee
05:00in which there are all
05:02BIDs and Muftis.
05:04They have not given us
05:06any guidelines in this regard
05:08nor have they interfered in this regard
05:10in any other Madrasa.
05:12They have created facilities for us.
05:14Yes, they have done this
05:16that our students
05:18want to get the education of the school.
05:20Mr. Mufti, let me conclude this debate.
05:22Mr. Mufti, first you tell us
05:24and then Mr. Rashid.