Dana, el devastador temporal que azotó la ciudad de Valencia, dejó un paisaje desolador. Picaña, uno de los barrios más afectados, muestra las huellas del desastre con calles llenas de barro y muebles arrastrados por la corriente. El Gobierno Nacional ha anunciado un fondo de 10.600 millones de euros para afrontar la situación. Aún hay muchas personas desaparecidas y se teme que el número de víctimas pueda aumentar.
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00:00The area at the moment, Gaston, how are you? Cata D'Elia greets you.
00:03Hi Cata, how are you? Nice to greet you again.
00:07Well, tell us a little bit about what we have behind us.
00:10That is a central street in Valencia.
00:13Look, we are in Picanha at the moment.
00:15Picanha is one of the most affected areas
00:18of what was this storm that has hit the city of Valencia.
00:22And if you allow me, I'm going to change a little.
00:25I'm going to change the camera mode so you can see.
00:29Look, here we see how this neighborhood is.
00:33This neighborhood was one of the most affected, let's say.
00:37It hasn't rained much, that's what the neighbors tell us.
00:41But here, everything that has happened was
00:44all the overflow of the ravines, of the rivers,
00:48of everything that has come up.
00:50Notice that we have furniture, we have sofas,
00:52we have armchairs, we have fridges.
00:55There are even pots here.
00:58Right here, I was looking at it a while ago.
01:01There are memories of the people.
01:03Well, many things that they are taking away from their homes.
01:07Because, well, as we know, this was a disaster.
01:11And well, we see here all the images of what it has left
01:15and what this place is doing to work as fast as possible
01:19and to be able to be in condition again.
01:24Gastón, Pablo Vinocur greets you.
01:26I wanted to ask you who should take charge
01:28in the face of this catastrophe.
01:30Because we have in Argentina, we have a situation
01:33where there is a coexistence, sometimes conflicting,
01:36sometimes chaotic, sometimes peaceful,
01:39between provincial, municipal, national governments.
01:42We are not entirely clear sometimes
01:44what should happen in Spain.
01:46Who is responsible for the fact that prevention has not been done well
01:50and then the direct assistance work?
01:54Look, in terms of prevention,
01:56here they are throwing the ball
01:58between what is the Valencian Generality
02:00and what is the national government.
02:02They indicate that they did not follow the necessary advice,
02:06that the alert is not in the morning
02:08and that it was deactivated, that it was deactivated three times.
02:11And well, between this situation,
02:13there are several situations where it is not known
02:17who really are the culprits, let's say, of this situation,
02:21of all this catastrophe that we are facing.
02:24But the Spanish national government,
02:26Pedro Sánchez, punctually,
02:28does it have or does it not have management there?
02:31Yes, look, from what they speak,
02:33here the people from Valencia, the neighbors,
02:36that I am in the area that I am touring,
02:39they are on one side and on the other.
02:41In other words, many people blame the national government,
02:45people blame Amazon,
02:47which is the president of the Valencian Generality.
02:50So, really, the opinions are not really 100% effective
02:56in terms of what is the opinion of the people
02:59or who should have done it.
03:01If you ask me,
03:02I think this could have been avoided.
03:04There are many things that were done last year,
03:07such as the fact that 100 companies were removed
03:09throughout the Valencian community
03:11and that this has made this situation very difficult
03:14because it has worsened since the storm
03:17that broke out a week ago here.
03:19What is destined,
03:21yes, sorry, what is destined,
03:23the national government has already spoken,
03:25they are going to allocate 10,600 million euros
03:28to be able to solve this issue a little.
03:33I ask you out of ignorance, sorry,
03:35but I can't stop seeing the streets
03:37and the destruction you have behind you,
03:39also in images that you sent earlier
03:41that we have from the different newspapers
03:43and that mud that you see there,
03:46was there cement before or are they dirt roads?
03:49Sorry for the ignorance.
03:50Yes, yes, sorry, if you accompany me,
03:52I will show you.
03:53Yes, yes, yes.
03:54I'm going around,
03:55sorry for the destroying,
03:56but hey, I'm going around the camera
03:57so you can see.
03:59You see all this here,
04:00here is asphalt,
04:01this is an asphalt street,
04:03an asphalt street,
04:05here we continue to see all the materials.
04:08Look, right here,
04:10if you can see,
04:11this is a line,
04:13a mark of the sidewalk,
04:16let's say, of the asphalt.
04:17Yes.
04:18And here there are pedestrian crossings,
04:20here you are going to have more asphalt,
04:24for example,
04:26and we see that all the people are working,
04:28all the vehicles that are here,
04:30there are many who are there with the low windows
04:32because of the humidity,
04:34those who have been able to come
04:36and have been able to open their vehicles,
04:38waiting for these things to dry up
04:41and that, well, there are many cars
04:43that are already in the middle of the repair.
04:45Well, here the neighbors are all working
04:47on the other side,
04:48if you can see them in the background,
04:50they are all cleaning all this mud
04:52that, well, in some way,
04:53you have to remove it, right?
04:54Now, everything was destroyed to you,
04:57the car was broken,
04:58you lost everything.
05:00Who can you go to directly
05:02or will you have to end up paying for everything yourself?
05:05Look, today we were just talking
05:07with a co-worker and he said,
05:09it reminds me a little, sometimes,
05:11when you claim things in Argentina,
05:13they tell you, well, first you pay
05:14and then you claim.
05:16So, we are more or less in this situation.
05:18What is here, well,
05:20most of the insurance of the vehicles
05:22are, let's say, protected
05:24in terms of natural hazards.
05:26So, well, as for the cars,
05:28you can get to see
05:30that the insurance companies
05:31are going to have to take over.
05:32Then, on the other hand,
05:33there are the consortiums,
05:35which are, as you can see,
05:36from here, let's say.
05:37So, that payment that is normally made,
05:40which is the maintenance
05:41of the cleaning area,
05:43as we are all going to see,
05:45in what is the Federal Capital.
05:47Here, those consortiums,
05:49you have to start changing the budgets
05:51in terms of cleaning,
05:52in terms of losses.
05:54There are doors that have been bent
05:56and they have been directly
05:58pumped out of the water.
06:00And, well, all this,
06:02obviously, leaves the houses open
06:05and with very little protection.
06:07Also, here we live in these places,
06:11in these towns,
06:12mostly here people know each other
06:14and we all know who we are.
06:16So, questions of crime and so on,
06:19that someone can bring a house,
06:21those things happen.
06:23Sure.
06:24Let's see, it is heard,
06:25when you walk, it is heard,
06:26we lose the sound a little, Gastón.
06:28I wanted to ask you about the number of dead
06:31because we understand that there is still
06:32no official figure of missing
06:34and people who have died
06:36as a result of this storm so voracious.
06:39But, more or less, is there any...
06:40The official figures are...
06:41Yes.
06:42Yes, the official figures are 217 dead.
06:44Yes.
06:45Today, supposedly,
06:46what they reported,
06:48although, well,
06:49we have to see how far it was true or not,
06:51in the commercial center of Bonaire,
06:53in which there was an underground square
06:55of 1,800 cars
06:57and supposedly there were 1,000 cars
06:59inside the parking lot.
07:02What they reported is that today
07:04they did not find fatal victims
07:06in the underground of the parking lot
07:07of the commercial center.
07:08They did not find there.
07:09No.
07:10What there is,
07:11many people have disappeared.
07:13That's for sure.
07:14So, it happens that, for example,
07:16now,
07:17now what we are having a problem,
07:19which I was commenting yesterday,
07:20was that, for example,
07:22now we have all the water,
07:24everything that swept this storm
07:27was directly to the stream.
07:29The stream was a swamp.
07:30That swamp was directly connected to the sea.
07:32So, today,
07:33what is happening is that all, let's say,
07:35all the garbage or all the remains
07:38of what was left of this storm
07:40is approaching the sea,
07:42to the shores of the sea,
07:43that is, to the shores of the beach.
07:45So, what happens is that now, well,
07:47first we have to finish with the towns,
07:49with the city, with the streets,
07:51so that everything returns to normal,
07:53and, well,
07:55regarding public transport,
07:57there is also a situation that, well,
07:59everything is very well connected here.
08:01Unfortunately, with this,
08:03with what happened to us,
08:05today most of the lines are all closed.
08:08The Valencian Generalitat has put emergency buses
08:11so that people can move.
08:13The truth is terrible, Gastón.
08:16You were able to resume your work activities,
08:20that is, most of the people in Valencia
08:22were able to return to work,
08:24and now everything is completely altered,
08:26beyond the destruction,
08:28the dead, the missing.
08:30Look, everything is quite chaotic.
08:32Today, for us, to make a trip,
08:34which mostly took 20, 25 minutes,
08:36it took an hour and a half.
08:38The roads are still complicated,
08:41they are making the trucks
08:44circulate from 10 p.m. to 7 a.m.,
08:47which, within the daily schedule,
08:49these trucks, if not,
08:51carry perishable food,
08:53which are helping the people
08:55who are already having to circulate.
08:57The roads that go to Valencia,
08:59here to Barcelona and Madrid,
09:01there are places where they are cut off,
09:03so you have to deviate.
09:05Nothing, everything is quite complicated.
09:07People are returning to work little by little.
09:09Today they resumed in many places
09:11the children's classes,
09:13the school activity,
09:15and this, well, is a good sign
09:17because we are not having
09:19as many students as was announced for those days.
09:21Gastón, we want to thank you very much
09:23here from NOTI America
09:25for showing us live
09:27what is happening,
09:29for answering us every time we call
09:31to try to understand the magnitude
09:33of this phenomenon and the impact
09:35of the damage that follows,
09:37because now it is what you say,
09:39to rebuild, to return to life again,
09:41but with a lot of death,
09:43with a lot of destruction,
09:45and with many questions
09:47about how to move forward
09:49and we thank you very much for your work from there.
09:51Thank you, Cata,
09:53for what you said in your position,
09:55and thank you for being in contact with us
09:57to see how the situation is here in Madrid.