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00:00The interviewer, Osamu Hayashi, is another amazing person tonight.
00:06Please say goodbye one by one.
00:10That charisma that won the Academy Award for the first time in the history of Japanese cinema.
00:21Nice to meet you.
00:22Nice to meet you. Good evening.
00:23Nice to meet you.
00:24Nice to meet you.
00:26Cool!
00:30The world-famous Japanese actor who won the Academy Award, Masahiro Motoki.
00:36Wow, that's great.
00:42He made his debut as a member of the idol group Shibu Gakitai when he was 16 years old in 1982.
00:49I see, he's an idol.
00:53When Shibu Gakitai was disbanded at the age of 22, he became an actor.
00:58It's pretty early, isn't it?
01:05At the age of 27, he won the best supporting actor award at the time of the movie Shikofunjatta.
01:15Wow.
01:16And in 2008...
01:19I won the best supporting actor award at the time of the movie Shikofunjatta.
01:23Masahiro Motoki himself planned and starred in the movie Okuribito.
01:31In this work, he won the Academy Award for the first time in the history of Japanese cinema.
01:39In addition, the total number of awards was 103, including domestic and overseas awards.
01:47103 awards!
01:50Tonight, Kyoko Koizumi, the only friend of the entertainment industry, also appeared.
01:5660 minutes to learn about Motoki Masahiro's sincere life from work to family.
02:03You're the same age, aren't you?
02:05Yes, I am.
02:06I was surprised.
02:08I thought you were much older than me.
02:13In fact, they were born in 1965 and will be the same age next year.
02:22In addition, they are 174 cm tall and have an ego search.
02:28Surprisingly, they have a lot in common.
02:31It's almost the same.
02:34And you don't have many friends.
02:37That's right.
02:39Of course, I have a lot of friends and acquaintances.
02:44But I don't have many friends who I meet for a drink or a meal.
02:52That's really the same.
02:55But you three used to work together, didn't you?
02:59That's right.
03:01Looking back now, it was a business relationship.
03:04That's right.
03:06No, it's not.
03:07Isn't it?
03:08It's really youth.
03:09That's right.
03:11Shibukakitai debuted in 1982.
03:14It is said to be a flower 82-year-old idol.
03:20Motoki was thought to have made his debut in this year, but in fact...
03:27His debut in the entertainment industry was one year ago.
03:30When he was 15 years old.
03:33It was the fourth installment of the Sakura junior high school series of the popular drama Three-Year B-Class Kinpachi Sensei.
03:39His appearance in the drama of the two-year B-Class Senpachi Sensei was his debut in the entertainment industry.
03:46At the time of the shooting, he went from his parents' house in Saitama to the Tokyo studio by train.
03:54I was told that I was very cute, wasn't I?
03:57That's right.
03:58I'm coming on the Takasaki Line.
04:01I always take a dozen or so girls from the door of my house and come to TBS by train together.
04:14There are a lot of girls waiting for me in the building of TBS.
04:22You were found out by your fans at home, but you continued to take your fans?
04:25That's right.
04:27I think that was the atmosphere of idols.
04:33But I felt very uncomfortable with that.
04:36Why are you so excited about people like us?
04:43I was a little calm and a little bit of a pull.
04:49Masahiro Motoki, who later became an Academy Award winner, was 15 years old at the time.
04:56Here is the scene of his first appearance in the drama.
04:59I'm going to throw this away.
05:01Then throw it away.
05:02If you don't want to do that, you can do it alone.
05:05Even if you do it alone, you'll only be called to the studio alone.
05:10If you throw away the textbook because you think it's a waste of class, you'll have to rethink your future.
05:15Wait a minute, guys.
05:16If that's the case, it's more effective to burn it.
05:22Burn it.
05:23It looks bad.
05:25All right, I've decided.
05:26Let's burn it at night.
05:27Gather at 6 p.m. today with a light textbook.
05:31All right, let's go.
05:34Who's going?
05:37If you don't come, I won't let you come to school again.
05:46I'm dizzy.
05:50What do you think of your performance?
05:53I can't talk about it anymore.
05:56I can't concentrate.
05:59I can't watch it.
06:02It's hard to say that you're good at acting.
06:07Mr. Yakumaru's power is more like a 15-year-old's voice.
06:13It looks bad.
06:14Mr. Yakumaru is a little bit like that.
06:22The Shibu Gakitai was formed the following year to support this drama.
06:28Then...
06:31He appeared in the Kouhaku Uta Gassen for only 7 months since his debut.
06:36That's fast.
06:37In addition, he won the Japanese Record Award for Best Newcomer and became a top idol.
06:47He was really amazing.
06:50Speaking of the big hit song of Shibu Gakitai...
07:02It's Sushi Kui, which was released four years after his debut.
07:08Even before the record was released, it was performed at the Kouhaku Uta Gassen.
07:13It's a representative song of Shibu Gakitai.
07:21Sushi Kui was released in 1986.
07:26Why is it a representative song?
07:30It's true.
07:31There are many more.
07:33It's not recognized as a representative song.
07:36Do you think so?
07:39I think so, too.
07:43Anyway, it's Sushi Kui.
07:45Did you make this song right before the concert?
07:49Mr. Yakumaru got injured and couldn't perform at the concert.
07:55I had to work with Mr. Fukawa.
08:00I didn't participate in this song.
08:02Mr. Fukawa made this song with a member of Shibu Gakitai.
08:08Shibu Gakitai?
08:10He made this song with a member of Shibu Gakitai.
08:14I see.
08:16I was just asked to sing this song.
08:21You told me not to say it's a representative song.
08:26And you tried to keep a distance from me.
08:30No, no, no.
08:32I was a little cocky.
08:37I was wondering why I had to sing this song so well.
08:43I was wondering if this song would be a representative song.
08:47I thought it was not fun at all.
08:51I think I was a little cocky.
08:54At that time, I was a big fan of CHECKERS.
09:01I said, I want to eat sushi.
09:06I said, this is it.
09:09I sang this song with a feeling of crying.
09:14I was comforted by him.
09:19You chose a lot of words.
09:21Actually, that song was not a representative song.
09:26You didn't like it.
09:27I think I didn't like it.
09:29I was an idol.
09:31Actually, this time, I interviewed a person who knows Motoki since his debut.
09:38Please take a look at this.
09:39I don't have any friends.
09:42Motoki doesn't have any friends.
09:44The only person who can be called a friend was in the 82-year-old group.
09:50That person is...
09:54It's me.
09:56U-HEAT is big.
09:58It's too big.
09:59It's enough for one person.
10:01I'm sorry.
10:03Why are you apologizing?
10:05Actress Kyoko Koizumi.
10:08It's an effect.
10:10She made her debut as a singer in 1982 with Masahiro Motoki.
10:16She is a wonderful idol.
10:19She has been active on TV shows and concerts since she was 16 years old.
10:24She is a voice actress.
10:27She may be a voice actress.
10:29I think so.
10:32But I don't have many friends.
10:35You are emphasized.
10:37I know.
10:39I heard that you hit Yuya Uchida several times.
10:46We have known each other for more than 40 years.
10:48We care about each other.
10:50We think that we are doing our best.
10:54We are childhood friends.
10:56We feel like distant relatives.
11:00At first, we ran in large numbers.
11:03Gradually, we became less and less.
11:06At the end, I felt that Motoki was still there.
11:12Maybe because of each other.
11:14In a way, he is my best friend.
11:16I have many friends.
11:23I think Motoki is very limited.
11:28That's a very nice thing.
11:31He is always busy with work.
11:35I think that's his way of life.
11:39I think that's why he can express himself like that.
11:45But I don't have many friends.
11:48You are emphasized.
11:50I think only Yayako is a good friend.
11:54I see.
11:57What was your impression when you first met Motoki?
12:02I thought he was a beautiful boy.
12:05I thought he was a beautiful boy.
12:10He is very beautiful.
12:12He is serious.
12:14He has many talents.
12:16But surprisingly, he has a low self-esteem.
12:25He always regrets.
12:29He always worries.
12:31He cares about others.
12:34But he is too careful.
12:37He talks a lot.
12:40He seems to be anxious while he is talking.
12:43He asks me if I'm okay.
12:46I say I'm fine.
12:49If I had such a beautiful face, I would have been able to live as a man.
12:57That's his charm.
12:59I think he has an interesting balance.
13:08How was the interview?
13:10I'm sorry.
13:12Why?
13:13I'm really busy with touring.
13:16I'm the only one who has no friends.
13:21The staff must have asked me because they were in trouble.
13:26I see.
13:27You said he has a low self-esteem.
13:30That's right.
13:32He has a complex.
13:38What is his complex?
13:39He cares about his talent.
13:44But he wants to be recognized by others.
13:51I always worry about that.
13:54I don't know what to do with my personality.
13:58He has been an idol for a long time.
14:01He is a world-renowned actor who won the Academy Award.
14:06He is a fake.
14:08I wonder if it's okay to be so empty.
14:12When he was an idol, he looked a little painful.
14:19Masahiro Motoki has a very negative personality.
14:25His mother, Kirin Kiki, who is his senior, and his family supported him.
14:35She supported me.
14:39She was the biggest advisor in my life.
14:44Masahiro Motoki talks about how he succeeded.
14:52First of all, Masahiro Motoki, who was an idol, became a world-renowned actor.
14:59He talks about his evolution and life theory.
15:04In this corner, I asked Masaru Akai to design according to the image of the guest.
15:10This time it's Akai Keito.
15:13It's wonderful.
15:15Akai Keito said that the reason for choosing him is that he expressed Motoki's overwhelming presence.
15:22Is that so? Thank you very much.
15:26I'm a little intimidated when I'm surrounded by such overwhelming people.
15:31He appeared in The Best Ten, which was very popular at the time, 93 times.
15:37That's a lot of times.
15:38Is that so?
15:40There is a legendary happening that is still talked about in the live broadcast of The Best Ten.
15:47That is...
15:49Tetsuko Kuroyanagi, who saved Masahiro Motoki in a big pinch because the cord of the microphone got entangled in the lighting.
15:58There was a light like this.
16:01There are countless rotating lighting equipment at the foot of the stage.
16:07Then the cord of Motoki's microphone...
16:28The cord was entangled in the lighting and it was getting shorter and shorter.
16:36Then, Tetsuko Kuroyanagi, the host,
16:40Tetsuko-san!
16:41Tetsuko-san!
16:42Tetsuko-san!
16:43untied the cord, but...
16:47Tetsuko-san...
16:51That's amazing.
16:52That's amazing.
16:53That's amazing.
16:54This kind of thing happens a lot.
16:56That's right. I was looking forward to it.
17:00I think it was a group that was half funny in the office.
17:08As a pop song of that era, I think that there was one genre or personality.
17:17So, if you listen to the story, you don't like it because you don't eat sushi.
17:23You eat sushi again.
17:27It was very popular.
17:29It was really amazing.
17:31I went to buy a call card.
17:33Call card?
17:34There's a song, right?
17:36After the song, everyone calls out, L.O.V.E.
17:41That call.
17:42We were radio listeners, so we listened to cassettes at a friend's house.
17:48Masahiro Inochi-san, I fell in love with you seriously.
17:53I remember that call being written on the call card.
17:58When I was in elementary school and junior high school, I was a fan of Shibu Gakitai.
18:02And right after that, Shounentai came out.
18:05Shounentai came out.
18:07And from there, Checkers came out.
18:10In the battle of Mitsudomoe.
18:12At the time of Mitsudomoe, if you were sung by Sushi-kun...
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26:09I'm being praised, I'm going to be scolded, I'm not good at this, and I'm going to look back on it.
26:17When I'm in class, I always take a questionnaire, but I don't need compliments because they don't do anything.
26:24I just want the words of criticism.
26:28There are many times when the points of improvement are hidden.
26:33Even so, there is a work that I was worried about whether to play that role.
26:39That is...
26:41The Longest Day in Japan, the movie that played Emperor Showa.
26:47There are many thoughts about playing the emperor.
26:51After all, I couldn't accept it easily.
26:56Until then, there weren't many works in which Emperor Showa appeared concretely.
27:05In past works, only the back of his head, or just going to the other side of the water.
27:11After all, there are some aspects that I have avoided drawing.
27:14That's right.
27:16Even so, I thought it was too serious.
27:19At that time, did you consult Kitty Kirin, the mother of Kirin?
27:24That's right.
27:26As for your personality and appearance, it's hard to see the sense of life.
27:33There may be something in common with Emperor Showa.
27:42I think the director thought so and offered it to you.
27:46I feel like I can see the reason, so it's perfect.
27:51I feel like he pushed me back.
27:55I see.
27:57The big senior who can rely on right next to him, Kitty Kirin,
28:02It will greatly change his life as an actor.
28:07Do you still remember the words of Kirin?
28:11I remember the words of Kirin that my mother always told me.
28:18Don't be arrogant, don't compare yourself to others, be funny, and live a normal life.
28:27Don't be arrogant, don't compare yourself to others, be funny, and live a normal life.
28:35It's different from having fun.
28:40In the case of Kitty Kirin, the way to say it is always funny.
28:46When I make a mistake in my lines,
28:50I say,
28:53Mr. Hayashi, I made a mistake. I'm sorry.
28:59Don't stop it.
29:02Don't stop it and keep going.
29:05That way, you can create a rhythm that you don't expect.
29:09It's fun to change the atmosphere.
29:12At one point, I had that kind of idea.
29:16I'm going to do everything right.
29:19That's what's interesting.
29:22So you have to accept your weakness and make it interesting.
29:30That's the ultimate positive.
29:33The point is not to live a normal life.
29:38If you live a normal life, you can open up.
29:44Don't be swayed by your beliefs.
29:47Don't be swayed by someone else's evaluation.
29:52Don't be swayed by what you think.
29:55If you follow your beliefs,
29:58you don't have to appeal to others.
30:01Just be yourself.
30:04I think it's a word that contains a lot of meanings.
30:11That's why I was educated in a good way.
30:16He was the greatest advisor in my life.
30:22Speaking of Masahiro Motoki's masterpiece...
30:26I'm going to take the role of a farmer.
30:29It's the first time in the history of Japanese cinema.
30:32He won the Academy Award for Foreign Language Film.
30:36It's called Okuribito.
30:39This work is about a farmer who cleans up the dead and puts them in a coffin.
30:45He came up with the idea and participated in the project.
30:49It took him more than ten years to make it into a film.
30:53What kind of work is it for you as an actor?
30:57I was the one who came up with the idea of this film.
31:05I was interested in the fact that it was a real farm.
31:11So I joined a team of farmers in Yamagata.
31:17You actually did it.
31:19I played the role of an old lady.
31:23I put on glasses and disguised as an old lady.
31:26The body I touched was as cold as iron.
31:31That's the reality of death.
31:34It's the same coldness as the cold air in Yamagata in February.
31:40You don't warm up in the heat.
31:43I felt like I was experiencing the real thing.
31:51That's how I started acting.
31:55I was confident that I was experiencing the real thing.
32:01This is amazing.
32:04Experiencing the real thing became his confidence in acting.
32:09It became the only presence in the film.
32:16I have a lot of experience in acting.
32:20I made a film with Mr. Motoki.
32:24It's called Ganryujima.
32:27Mr. Motoki is Musashi Miyamoto.
32:30He's the captain of a ship that takes Musashi to Ganryujima.
32:34It's not Kojiro Sasaki.
32:36It's a scene of a ship going to Ganryujima.
32:39So I acted with Mr. Motoki all the time.
32:44At that time, I was completely Musashi Miyamoto.
32:49It was a cold winter shooting.
32:54When I went to a place with a stove, Mr. Motoki took care of me.
32:59The staff said,
33:01When I started acting, I became a scary Musashi.
33:05My legs were shaking because of that gap.
33:08I was Musashi.
33:10Next is the family that supported Mr. Motoki.
33:14It's about an unknown bond.
33:18Mr. Motoki got married when he was 29 years old.
33:22On the other hand, his wife, Yayako, was 19 years old at that time.
33:28The world was disturbed by their marriage.
33:32But what bothered Mr. Motoki more than the eyes of the world was...
33:37Yayako's father.
33:40Eternal rock'n'roller Yuya Uchida.
33:44I didn't have the courage to ask Mr. Uchida for his daughter.
33:50I thought so.
33:52To be honest, I was wondering if that greeting was necessary.
33:59When I asked Mr. Uchida for his daughter, he said,
34:02Come with the president of the agency.
34:04Don't come alone.
34:07I'm sure he knew what I was going to say.
34:12I made a reservation at a hotel in Ginza.
34:15I went out with the president of the agency.
34:17Mr. Uchida didn't look at me at all.
34:22We talked about different industries, travel, and other things.
34:29Anyway, he didn't let me say anything.
34:32I was wondering if he was going to go home.
34:36He said, I have a store I want to take you to.
34:39I went to a sofa seat in the back of a bar.
34:44We talked about rock'n'roller for a long time.
34:47We talked about rock'n'roller for a long time.
34:50At the end of the conversation,
34:54he said, I know.
34:58He said, I know.
35:03That's all.
35:06He didn't say, I know.
35:08He didn't say, I know.
35:11He didn't say, I know.
35:15In fact, when he went to the second bar,
35:18he was filled with Uchida Yuya's feelings.
35:22He took me to a place where Yuya had met John Lennon and Yoko Ono.
35:31I was told that he was a wonderful man.
35:35I was told that he was a wonderful man.
35:42He was a great director.
35:44That's right.
35:46They say you've beaten Yuya Uchida several times.
35:51They say you've beaten Yuya Uchida several times.
35:54They say you've beaten Yuya Uchida several times.
35:58Um...
35:58I've done it, though.
36:00You've done it?
36:02Senpai, that's not good.
36:04That was 23 years ago,
36:07when the Motoki family lived in a two-bedroom house with Kiki Kirin.
36:12Well, of course, we don't usually live there,
36:15but there's a kind of night stay in our two-bedroom house...
36:19Night stay?
36:21There's a kind of night stay, right?
36:22You can't use the word night stay in that kind of house.
36:24That's right.
36:25Gakufu comes to the night stay.
36:27It's a bit of a desperate situation right now.
36:30So we shake it up and down,
36:33and say,
36:34Motoki, Yayako, are you there? Open the door!
36:36That's what we do.
36:38I don't think your neighbors have seen it.
36:40That's right.
36:41So we say,
36:42Motoki!
36:43Shotoku Taishi!
36:44Are you there?
36:45At that time, Shotoku Taishi was playing a role.
36:47Oh, you're watching.
36:49The first floor is where Kiki and Kiki live.
36:52From there, I can hear the two of them arguing.
36:56Yes, that's right.
36:58Actually, the child had a cold and had a fever,
37:03and they were arguing about that.
37:06I was worried about that,
37:08so I got off the elevator,
37:10and said,
37:11Please be quiet, including stopping the noise.
37:14The child had a fever,
37:15and he said,
37:16I'm a little flustered.
37:18I said,
37:19What kind of fever is it?
37:20Don't you have a fever?
37:22That's exactly what you said.
37:24With that kind of tone,
37:26Kiki and I were having fun.
37:28That's right, that's right, that's right, that's right.
37:31Both teams were saying,
37:32That's right, that's right, that's right, that's right.
37:34I said,
37:35Do it.
37:36Do it in the middle.
37:38It's overlapping.
37:40And then,
37:41I pulled it off or something.
37:46I hit my hand with momentum.
37:50I aimed for it.
37:54How was it at the end?
37:55Well, that's...
37:56A group of friends of Mr. Yuya came to me.
38:02I said,
38:03What did you do to Mr. Yuya?
38:05So I came to Kiki.
38:06So I thought I'd deal with it.
38:09When I was getting the momentum to talk to Mr. Yuya,
38:14I made a face as if I had swallowed something.
38:18I thought,
38:19Mr. Kiki was holding an iron pipe behind me.
38:23He was trying to protect me.
38:26What a family!
38:27Interesting.
38:28I've met the rock and rollers around Mr. Yuya.
38:32They're so scary!
38:34They're so scary!
38:36But,
38:37That's the reality.
38:40Mr. Yuya's words,
38:44They resonate with Kiki.
38:47So,
38:48Mr. Kiki and my family, including my children,
38:51said,
38:52Your good-natured image is
38:54because there's a bad guy like me,
38:56so you should be grateful.
38:58I see.
38:59Mr. Kiki said,
39:01Yuya is much better than you.
39:05He said that a lot.
39:07He said that more than me.
39:10But,
39:11Family is important in the life of an actor.
39:13Family support.
39:14Of course.
39:15Mr. Kiki said that, too.
39:17Kiki Kirin's words are still important to Motoki.
39:23When you raise a child,
39:25you grow up.
39:27Next week,
39:28Yokohama Meteor Shower.
39:30Mr. Kiki's face as if he had swallowed something.
39:34I'm sorry.
39:36Yokohama Meteor Shower
39:40Family is important in the life of an actor.
39:43Family support.
39:44That's right.
39:45Mr. Kiki said that, too.
39:47No matter what your image is,
39:50when you raise a child,
39:52you grow up.
39:53That's true.
39:54It doesn't have to be a child.
39:57It can be a plant,
39:59an animal,
40:00or a pet.
40:01Anyway,
40:02if you don't raise a child,
40:05if you don't have a daily life,
40:07you can't be an actor.
40:09That's what he thought.
40:12From what I've heard,
40:14it's not just that I was influenced by Mr. Kiki.
40:17As you said,
40:18I think Mr. Kiki raised Mr. Motoki.
40:22I think so, too.
40:25In addition to advice as an actor,
40:28he was able to learn how to live as a person
40:31in his life with his family.
40:3658 years of such a life.
40:40A work that can be said to be the culmination of Masahiro Motoki.
40:45A movie based on the novel by Sougen Kuramoto from the northern country.
40:50The Sink of the Sea.
40:53A human drama in which the past of Masahiro Motoki,
40:57who plays a genius painter,
41:00is revealed due to the original incident at the exhibition.
41:04In this work,
41:06Kyoko Koizumi plays the role of Masahiro Motoki's ex-lover.
41:12How many years has it been?
41:14I agree.
41:15In fact, Sougen Kuramoto
41:17originally made a script based on a sketch of Motoki and Koizumi.
41:22It was a story that could not be drawn without these two people.
41:26I want to see it.
41:27I imagine the time I used to date in my head.
41:32I think it's possible because I've been dating for a long time
41:37that I can remember Motoki's appearance in his teens and twenties.
41:46It's a story that they drew because they knew each other in their teens and had a history.
41:52I know that time.
41:54Actually, I've already seen it.
41:57That scene is really impressive.
42:00Motoki and Koizumi's hands are touching.
42:05Obviously, it's not the hands of a young person.
42:09But those two hands touched for a moment.
42:13What is the charm of that moment?
42:15As a setting in the movie,
42:17there was a reunion for the first time in 30 years.
42:21Koizumi and I both made our debut in 2015 and 2016.
42:26We have a history of living in the same entertainment industry for two years.
42:33I think it's reflected in the movie.
42:39It's good.
42:40It's a good relationship.
42:4343 years since their debut.
42:46The two have continued to run together while praying for each other's success.
42:52Now that they are older,
42:55what is the charm of Motoki that Koizumi Kyoko feels?
43:00Motoki's charm is that he jumps over women.
43:0943 years since their debut.
43:12What is the charm of Motoki that Koizumi Kyoko feels?
43:18What can I say?
43:21A long time ago,
43:24a lot of boxes were piled up.
43:28A lot of fear and embarrassment piled up.
43:33The box is very high.
43:38But at the end, he jumps over it with just the platform.
43:44When he jumps over it, he acts like no one can beat him.
43:49That's Motoki's image.
43:52It may be abstract,
43:54but we don't seem to be able to jump over the box,
43:58so we get rid of the fear and embarrassment.
44:03It's like jumping low,
44:06but he jumps over it with a great woman.
44:10That's Motoki's charm.
44:14He wants to be a real actor when he grows up.
44:19Motoki challenged himself to become a real actor.
44:26It's not about aiming for perfection.
44:31It's about being able to expose your flaws.
44:39It's about being able to incorporate them well.
44:43That's the charm of growing up.
44:46I think it's now.
44:49He exposes his flaws as a taste.
44:54Motoki Masahiro, who is 58 years old,
44:57enjoys himself and lives a normal life.
45:03Thank you very much.

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