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00:00In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
00:17As-Salaam-Alaikum.
00:18The situation of Dar-ul-Hukumat is in front of you.
00:19Even now, when I am talking to you, there are many stories that are still going through
00:24the process of development.
00:25Where exactly is the caravan of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf?
00:29Ali Amin Ghandapur Sahib and Bushra Sahiba are present in the cages.
00:33What is the situation at D-Chowk right now?
00:36Let's start from here.
00:37In this case, there is also news that when I am talking to you right now,
00:40a grand operation can start at any moment.
00:43What are the effects of trying to spread or end all this?
00:48There are many developments.
00:50Let's start quickly.
00:51Ghulam Awais is present with us from D-Chowk.
00:54Abdul Qadir, both our correspondents, are present with us in the caravan.
01:00Ghulam Awais Sahib, you are standing at D-Chowk, which is the target of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf,
01:05the center, where they are saying that we will reach here.
01:08You are standing exactly there.
01:10So tell me, do you see PTI nearby or is it far from D-Chowk?
01:17They had come from D-Chowk and they have been pushed away by shelling.
01:26Ghulam Awais Sahib.
01:27If we talk about D-Chowk, then if we look at the security situation here,
01:34the police and rangers along with the Pakistan Army are also present here.
01:39The complete control of D-Chowk is with the police right now.
01:42Even the area around D-Chowk cannot be reached by the protesters.
01:48The area is quite far from here.
01:51Jinnah Avenue has been evacuated from here.
01:54The protesters who had reached here were arrested or the police had dispersed them.
02:00And the police is still conducting a search operation.
02:03That is, the police is trying to evacuate the blue area.
02:08To a large extent, the police have succeeded in this.
02:11And the area around D-Chowk has also been completely evacuated from the protesters.
02:17Only the police are present here.
02:22And I can see a lot of darkness in your eyes.
02:24That means the lights have been intentionally turned off there.
02:30Yes, the lights were already turned off here.
02:33During a time, the lights were also turned on here.
02:36When the area around D-Chowk was evacuated,
02:39the lights were turned on from the area of Shaheed-e-Millat to Shaheed-e-Millat.
02:46Then the lights were turned off again.
02:48Even now, the police is searching here from time to time
02:52to see if there are any protesters hiding here.
02:55So we saw the visuals during daylight that some protesters are climbing on containers.
03:01We got the impression that the caravan has reached D-Chowk.
03:05So is it correct to say that the caravan did not reach D-Chowk?
03:09The caravan was behind.
03:10And where is the caravan?
03:11We will ask the authorities.
03:12But some people of the caravan had reached D-Chowk.
03:15They have been pushed back by shelling.
03:18And they are not even close.
03:20Is this correct?
03:22Yes, you are correct.
03:25Some of the protesters had reached D-Chowk.
03:29But the main caravan could not reach D-Chowk.
03:32You can say that the caravan could reach Kalsum International, which is quite far from D-Chowk.
03:39The caravan could not move beyond that.
03:42But some of the protesters reached here.
03:45They were arrested by the police.
03:47Stay with me, Ghulam Abbas.
03:50Let me ask Abdul Qadir where the caravan is.
03:54Abdul Qadir, keeping in mind all the viewers who are not aware of the exact map of Islamabad,
04:00where is the caravan?
04:03How far is it from D-Chowk?
04:04And has the caravan stopped?
04:06Or is the caravan moving towards D-Chowk?
04:09The background to this question is that we thought that the caravan would reach D-Chowk in the next 1-2 hours.
04:18It is 11 o'clock in the night and they are saying that the caravan has not reached D-Chowk.
04:22What is this?
04:23Please explain.
04:24This is correct.
04:26I was with the caravan a while ago.
04:29And for a while, the police started arresting the rangers.
04:35It was not a grand operation.
04:38But it was a tough operation.
04:41As a result, the caravan was dispersed.
04:44Right now, the caravan of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf has moved towards St. Doris.
04:51Earlier, it was in the vicinity of Kulsoom Hospital.
04:55Now, the caravan has moved towards Backfoot.
04:58Earlier, it was in the vicinity of Blue Area.
05:01You are saying that the caravan has moved towards Backfoot.
05:05A large number of caravans have gathered near St. Doris.
05:09The caravan has moved towards Backfoot.
05:12Earlier, the caravan had reached near D-Chowk.
05:17Kulsoom Hospital was 1 km away from D-Chowk.
05:20Now, the situation is that the caravan has moved towards Backfoot.
05:25It is completely dark.
05:27It is not easy to move forward.
05:30Because the rangers' caravans are present.
05:33There is a threat of arrests and a threat of a grand operation.
05:36Till now, we have seen that the caravan has moved forward.
05:42Why are you saying that it is not possible for the caravan to move forward?
05:46They made it possible.
05:48They had reached by 3 pm.
05:50But when all the lights were turned off,
05:53Bushra Bibi and Ali Ameen Gandapur sat in the same place for 3 hours.
05:58They were sitting in two different cars.
06:01The rangers insisted that the caravan should move forward.
06:05At one point, we saw that the caravan was very frustrated.
06:08They expressed their anger.
06:10They got into Ali Ameen Gandapur's car.
06:12I saw that the caravan was very emotional.
06:15They said that there is no point in staying here.
06:17Let's move forward.
06:18But Ali Ameen Gandapur was waiting for a green signal.
06:21I don't know if it was an instruction from Mr. Imran Khan.
06:25Or the party had to make a decision.
06:27But the caravan of Ali Ameen Gandapur and Bushra Bibi
06:30stayed in the same place for 2-2.5 hours and could not move forward.
06:33After that, the caravans were very frustrated.
06:37Then the lights were turned off.
06:38Then it was found that there could be a grand operation.
06:40After that, the cold has also increased.
06:43After a small operation, the caravans are now on their back foot.
06:50So, has the caravan stopped at one point
06:53or is it slowly moving towards D-Chowk?
06:55I am talking to you now.
06:57Look, Karkunan is present right now.
06:59If I tell you that the caravan is present somewhere,
07:02then it may not be correct.
07:04I see Karkunan everywhere.
07:07Even now, I am in the field.
07:08There is a large number of Karkunan near Tendoris.
07:11There is not much strength near D-Chowk.
07:16Sir, the container is also standing at the same place.
07:18It is not moving right now.
07:20Yes, absolutely.
07:21The container is at its place near Tendoris.
07:24And the whole location of Jinnah Avenue,
07:27a large number of Karkunan is still present here.
07:30It is not that all the caravans are returning or are returning.
07:34But it is certain that at this time,
07:36the situation is such that the leadership is not able to guide Karkunan properly.
07:41They do not have a roadmap of what to do next.
07:44So, you can understand the situation of ignorance.
07:47So, this is not the situation that we saw a few hours ago
07:50that keep moving, keep moving.
07:51We have to reach D-Chowk. Keep moving.
07:52This is not happening right now.
07:54No, the situation is quite diffused right now.
07:57The situation that was 5-6 hours ago is not the same now.
08:01But Karkunan has not left the field yet.
08:03Badastur is present at its place.
08:05And he is waiting for some other caravans from Punjab to join him.
08:09And then the matter will start again.
08:11Or go at night.
08:12Look, tonight is the night of decision.
08:15If the one who plans better from both sides,
08:19will be the one tomorrow.
08:20Okay, I am cutting you off.
08:21He was giving the latest update on this matter.
08:23The summary of which is that he is continuously showing the footage
08:26which he is saying was done an hour ago.
08:28And he is saying, look, people have weapons in their hands.
08:30New weapons.
08:31With which he is proving that these are extremists.
08:33He has said at least three times,
08:35No talks.
08:37No talks.
08:38There will be no talks.
08:39And in whatever words,
08:41he has also given the indication of an operation.
08:43That he is saying that Islamabad is full of extremists.
08:45We will not allow this.
08:47We will push back further.
08:49I will immediately respond to Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
08:52Secretary Tilaat PTI, Sheikh Waqas is with us.
08:54Huzoor, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
08:56Yes, Waalaikum-as-Salam, Mr. Masood.
08:58Sir, thank you for your time.
08:59First of all, please give me a straight response to this.
09:01By the way, Mr. Mohsin Naqvi has also said two and a half hours ago.
09:03In the 6-minute press conference of the deputy minister of Tatar,
09:07he has said three times,
09:09Talks will be zero.
09:11Talks will not be out of question.
09:13Your response to this?
09:15My response to this is that
09:17it is not right for him to say this.
09:19Because when these jails are opened to have talks,
09:25then it means that
09:27it is their intent to have talks.
09:29And they want talks to happen.
09:31The talks that Mr. Imran Khan refused,
09:35and could not happen.
09:37They are trying to put up a brave face
09:39that talks will not happen.
09:41If talks will not happen,
09:43then who is going to talk to you?
09:45Since the assembly has been held,
09:47you and your ministers
09:49have been talking to us in talk shows.
09:51If you sit down and have talks with us,
09:53what is our answer?
09:55Our answer has always been that
09:57talks will not happen with thieves and robbers.
09:59Who is talking to you?
10:01Nobody is talking to you.
10:03So, don't try to, you know,
10:05talk to thieves and robbers.
10:07The people you want to talk to,
10:09they are also saying that they will not talk to you.
10:11You call Mohsin Naqviq as their representative,
10:13they are also saying that they will not talk to you.
10:15I don't call him their representative.
10:17I don't call him their representative.
10:19He is their minister.
10:21You have seen his tone,
10:23how he kept on threatening
10:25the children of his own community,
10:27his own Pakistanis,
10:29in response to bullets.
10:31And at the same time,
10:33three of our men were martyred.
10:35Today, four to five of our men were martyred.
10:37It is confirmed that
10:39four and six were martyred,
10:41but four of them have been confirmed.
10:43The hospital, PIMS, and polyclinic
10:45have sent us the report.
10:47So, the point is...
10:49I would like to ask you about this as well,
10:51because I have challenged you on this as well,
10:53but you are saying that you don't even consider
10:55Mohsin Naqviq as the representative of the establishment.
10:57So, you tell us, who do you want to talk to,
10:59the establishment?
11:01No.
11:03No, we have never talked to him.
11:05Never?
11:07In the last two or three days, I mean.
11:09Look, you know what,
11:11these people, I don't know what they are,
11:13may God give them some sense.
11:15They consider engagement to be a dialogue.
11:17They consider contacts to be a conversation.
11:19They say from their side that
11:21okay, you don't have a Jalsa here,
11:23you have a Jalsa in Sanjani.
11:25That engagement,
11:27which they say before every Jalsa,
11:29before this mega mobilization,
11:31before all the Jalsas,
11:33they say from here to there.
11:35They consider that to be a dialogue as well.
11:37What can I say to them?
11:39Correct. So, you are saying that
11:41this is just an engagement, a conversation,
11:43there is no real conversation.
11:45You have been informed,
11:47they have given you a hint again,
11:49in whatever words,
11:51that you never know,
11:53at any moment,
11:55if there is an operation,
11:57hundreds of our people have been shot,
11:59and they are lying on Jena Avenue,
12:01injured,
12:03and I don't know how many of them
12:05have lost their lives.
12:07Two young men from Balochistan
12:09have been confirmed.
12:11I got a call from Daul Shah,
12:13who is the President of Balochistan,
12:15that two of his young men have been martyred.
12:17I will share their names with you.
12:19Yes, tell us, because when a journalist
12:21told Mohsin Naqvi that six people
12:23have lost their lives,
12:25tell us their names,
12:27we will share their videos,
12:29we will share their details,
12:31we have already shared it
12:33on our social media platforms,
12:35but somehow, no channel is bothered.
12:37They can see something there,
12:39but our martyrs,
12:41our Pakistani children,
12:43our children are not visible,
12:45we will share everything.
12:47You said that it has been four days,
12:49there is news of five,
12:51so tell us their names.
12:53I will share it with you.
12:55Okay.
12:57And the live press conference
12:59that they have done,
13:01according to their claims,
13:03CCTV footage was running,
13:05they say it was done an hour ago,
13:07in which weapons are clearly visible.
13:09If this is true,
13:11if this is today's footage,
13:13what will you say in defense of this?
13:15I have not seen it.
13:17As you know, I am on the phone,
13:19so I could not see what they showed,
13:21none of our people
13:23had any weapons.
13:25The guards who came with our CM,
13:27they were also unarmed,
13:29weapons were also taken from them.
13:31From some Peshawar to here,
13:33your DSNG was with them,
13:35YouTubers were with them,
13:37each and every young man
13:39who had a phone in his hand,
13:41they would have shown at least one video
13:43which would have come from the whole caravan to here.
13:45These were their own people,
13:47these were their own planted people.
13:49Didn't the Mujahideen have a shell?
13:51A tear gas gun, whatever you call it.
13:53No.
13:55The Mujahideen have not
13:57fired a shell anywhere.
13:59No, it is not in my knowledge,
14:01why would I talk to you wrongly?
14:03I know what I know,
14:05I know the instructions,
14:07if there is such a thing,
14:09obviously,
14:11in today's time,
14:13who can hide it?
14:15There are footages, mobiles, cameras,
14:17all of them are present there.
14:19You know all the cases of your channel.
14:21Of course, you are a secretary of information,
14:23so you have frequent contact with the media.
14:25People have entered
14:27different TV channels.
14:29It has happened a lot.
14:31I strongly condemn this in all strong words.
14:33I gave a reaction at that time.
14:35I tried to ensure announcements
14:37above the containers from there as well.
14:39I was not getting in touch.
14:41I sent people with great difficulty.
14:43I gave a statement there myself.
14:45I spoke to the Bureau Chiefs,
14:47Director News,
14:49I spoke to many of them myself.
14:51In some places, my media team spoke to them.
14:53We are sure that these people
14:55were also planted,
14:57they were not our people,
14:59who were sent to create
15:01discord between us and the media.
15:03The media is our voice.
15:05We do not care about the owner's policy,
15:07or the channel's policy.
15:09These are children who
15:11walk with us for so many miles
15:13and are very shy.
15:15If a worker comes to them,
15:17that is highly condemnable,
15:19not acceptable.
15:21If our worker,
15:23I have told them
15:25to give us anything,
15:27we will identify him,
15:29because there were thousands of people,
15:31and we will take action against him.
15:33This is wrong.
15:35I apologized to many friends.
15:37I said, I don't know who they were,
15:39but my brother,
15:41I apologize.
15:43I apologized to many friends.
15:45Okay.
15:47As we speak,
15:49is the caravan moving
15:51towards D-Chowk,
15:53or is the caravan still lying there?
15:55Sir, the thing is that
15:57a very heavy live ammunition
15:59has been fired at the caravan.
16:01Many people are injured.
16:03I said, two young men from Balochistan,
16:05Dawood Shah told me,
16:07you asked me the name,
16:09there are some funerals there.
16:11Some people were saying
16:13that they should be held at D-Chowk,
16:15because they were taking them to Balochistan.
16:17There was a discussion about that.
16:19He told me, there are two from Balochistan,
16:21I will send you the names of the others.
16:23They were martyred there
16:25a while ago,
16:27and hundreds of people have been shot.
16:29So the caravan is a little behind
16:31from that area,
16:33because obviously there are unarmed civilians.
16:35When direct bullets will be fired at them,
16:37they will be shot.
16:39Okay, but are they still there,
16:41or are they trying to go to D-Chowk?
16:43No, as you know,
16:45they are standing there.
16:47So maybe in the next few hours,
16:49the caravan will reach D-Chowk again.
16:51Obviously,
16:53they are committed people,
16:55determined people,
16:57but they are unarmed.
16:59They are civilians, unarmed.
17:01The kind of story Mr. Tarar was telling,
17:03that they are Afghans,
17:05they are criminals.
17:07The problem is that all his life,
17:09he has been in alliance
17:11with the Qaladam Safai Sahaba
17:13and the Qaladam Jama'ats.
17:15So he thinks that every political
17:17Jama'at works on this kind of mischief.
17:19The political Jama'at with which
17:211.25 lakh people are coming from there,
17:23and he has sweeped in that province,
17:25he does not need to hire
17:27Afghans or criminals
17:29or this kind of people.
17:31When the sea of the people is together,
17:33then this kind of people are not needed.
17:35Some Afghan citizens,
17:37obviously,
17:39there is a whole background.
17:41You are saying that there is no Afghanshari.
17:43You are saying that
17:45if there is someone, how do we know?
17:47Look,
17:49if someone came 30 years ago,
17:51and after that
17:53his children, great-grandchildren,
17:55great-grandchildren are present here,
17:57he is a Pakistani national,
17:59or
18:01if there is something in his documents
18:03and he is living with us,
18:05then he should take out his documents
18:07and tell us that he is an Afghan
18:09and you have kept Afghani statements.
18:11That is nonsense.
18:13He also tells Kashmiris that
18:15he is not a Pakistani.
18:17The whole case of Pakistan,
18:19where the UN wasted money for so many years,
18:21the Kashmir committee wasted money,
18:23Mr. Naqvi said,
18:25we cannot declare him as a Pakistani.
18:27He is asking for Kashmir.
18:29You should understand that
18:31we have been carrying this narrative for years.
18:33You have only
18:35disrespected Kashmir
18:37in the case of Nawaz Sharif and PTI.
18:39You do not consider Kashmiris as Pakistanis.
18:41But you are saying that
18:43if there is an actual Afghan citizen,
18:45then he should not be a part of this process.
18:47If there is an actual Afghan citizen,
18:49then first answer
18:51why he is here.
18:53He himself made the policy.
18:55If there is,
18:57it is a federal subject.
18:59It is a federal subject.
19:01It is a federal subject.
19:03Sir, it is a federal subject.
19:05Sir, it is a federal subject.
19:07It is a federal subject.
19:09It is not a public subject.
19:11He will answer.
19:13I am not asking you why he is in Pakistan.
19:15Because it is a federal and state subject.
19:17If he is in your rally, then he should be.
19:21Sir, where there are
19:231.25 lakh people coming
19:25from three sides,
19:27if a young man,
19:29I think that
19:31an Afghan should not be involved
19:33in such an activity.
19:35But if someone comes,
19:37can Ali Ameen remove him from 1.25 lakh people?
19:39It is written on his face that he is an Afghan.
19:41If someone comes from 1.25 lakh people,
19:43then why should he be slapped?
19:45Arrest him if he is an illegal immigrant.
19:47Sir, because
19:49in all this,
19:51more precious than anything else,
19:53so many people have been martyred.
19:55What you said just now,
19:57repeatedly in the last few minutes,
19:59you are making a big claim that
20:01just a while ago,
20:03near D-Chowk,
20:05two young men were killed
20:07in Balochistan.
20:09I know that because
20:11Dawood Shah spoke to me.
20:13Tell me their details.
20:15If you give me a minute
20:17during the break,
20:19I will take their exact names
20:21and tell you right now.
20:23Okay, I will talk to you for 3-4 minutes.
20:25You can tell me after the break.
20:27Till then, you can arrange.
20:29Absolutely.
20:31No, no, it is arranged.
20:33But obviously,
20:35you know that the list is coming.
20:37When the President of Baloch called me,
20:39he told me the number.
20:41I will just give you the name.
20:43This drama will not work.
20:45Give me the name.
20:47I will give you the name.
20:49I will give you the videos.
20:51I will give you the complete footage.
20:53How you people
20:55shot the children of the Pakistani community
20:57because they came to D-Chowk.
20:59You are telling that
21:01there are shoot-to-kill orders.
21:03What crime have we committed?
21:05Is it a crime to sit in D-Chowk?
21:07Your new law has come.
21:09You have been punished for 3 years.
21:11Send them to the courts.
21:13What is shoot-to-kill?
21:15We are soldiers of India.
21:17All the people who have been shot,
21:19their father is in the police.
21:21Someone's brother is in the army.
21:23Someone's uncle is in the Rangers.
21:25All of them are patriots.
21:27All of them love Pakistan.
21:29Didn't you see
21:31how the soldiers of the Pak army
21:33hugged and took selfies?
21:35Yes, but sir, you also saw
21:37that the police officer was martyred.
21:39He was shot to death.
21:41He was shot to death.
21:43He was shot to death.
21:45He was shot to death
21:47because of the gas shelling.
21:49He was an elderly man.
21:51Last time, on 4th,
21:53he lost his life because of his own shelling.
21:55If you watch his video,
21:57we will give you that video as well.
21:59The youth of Tariq-e-Insaf
22:01are bringing him water,
22:03trying to give him CPR.
22:05What happened to you?
22:07Sir, it can also be said
22:09that a person
22:11lost his life
22:13because of the gas shelling.
22:15He died of suffocation.
22:17He died of heart disease.
22:19He was shot to death.
22:21Sir, our people were shot to death.
22:23I will play a few shots
22:25so that Meena can tell
22:27the details
22:29of how he lost his life.
22:31In the meantime,
22:33I will play the video.
22:35Then we will meet Mr. Shikhbhakaar.
22:37Very interestingly,
22:39it is very interesting
22:41that Mr. Barrister Sahib,
22:43who is more in touch
22:45with Bani PTI
22:47than anyone else,
22:49is agreeing
22:51that Mr. Khan
22:53had also agreed
22:55that the protest should not
22:57go to D-Chowk,
22:59but should be held in Sangjani.
23:01Before this, PTI used to say
23:03that you are Mr. Khan,
23:05so we will listen to you.
23:07Mr. Barrister Sahib himself
23:09agreed that the protest should be
23:11held in Sangjani.
23:13But the protest was not held in Sangjani.
23:15The caravan moved ahead.
23:17What did he say and why?
23:19He suggested that
23:21we should hold the protest
23:23in Islamabad.
23:25We can give you permission.
23:27We took that suggestion
23:29to Mr. Khan.
23:31After discussing with Mr. Khan,
23:33he said that we are ready
23:35to do it there.
23:37But when we discussed
23:39the issue with our colleagues,
23:41the PTI refused to
23:43accept it.
23:45They insisted
23:47that we have to go
23:49to D-Chowk.
23:51Basically, Bujra Bibi
23:53said that she will not
23:55go to D-Chowk.
23:57She said that people
23:59have to sit there.
24:01Alright.
24:03Shishir Bhagat, are you with us?
24:05Sir, let me tell you the names
24:07of the martyrs.
24:09One is Abdul Wali.
24:11The other is Arshad.
24:13One is from Saifullah Fort.
24:15The other is from Pashin.
24:17Abdul Wali's dead body
24:19was sent by Dawood Shah.
24:21Arshad's dead body
24:23is being sent by
24:25Salar Kakar to Quetta.
24:27The rest of the deaths
24:29are not known.
24:31What is the exact reason
24:33for the deaths?
24:35Bullets were fired.
24:37Bullets?
24:39Yes.
24:41And you have enough evidence
24:43to prove that the bullets
24:45were fired from the other side.
24:47Sir, you are
24:49asking me to investigate
24:51the police station.
24:53This is a burning issue
24:55and a big claim.
24:57You are making such a big claim.
24:59Obviously,
25:01the bullets were fired
25:03by the government.
25:05Okay.
25:07Alright.
25:09Shishir Bhagat, are you with us?
25:11I will send you
25:13the names and footage
25:15of the people
25:17who died yesterday.
25:19We will take a short break.
25:21Stay with us.
25:23We will be back after a short break.
25:31Welcome back,
25:33Sheikh Bhagat Saqib.
25:35Before we go,
25:37can you tell us
25:39whether you can guarantee
25:41that the D-Chowk
25:43will not go further ahead
25:45if the caravan reaches D-Chowk?
25:47There is no danger
25:49that the caravan will reach D-Chowk.
25:51I don't think
25:53the caravan will go further ahead
25:55because no one has talked about it.
25:57Ali Amin
25:59and the loudspeaker
26:01told everyone
26:03that they don't want to go further
26:05because it is the Constitution Avenue.
26:07They don't want to go further.
26:09There were some young people
26:11who ignored their directions
26:13and tried to go further.
26:15But he showed complete discipline
26:17that they should not go further.
26:19Why would they go?
26:21They will go where they were announced.
26:23Sir, tell me
26:25this has become a record.
26:27Mr. Khan said
26:29that they will go back.
26:31Mr. Khan said
26:33that they will stay in Sangjani.
26:35But that didn't happen.
26:37What is the reason for this?
26:39I guess there was a communication gap.
26:41I heard what you said
26:43about Mr. Saif.
26:45But there was a communication gap
26:47and the people
26:49who were leading it
26:51couldn't reach there.
26:53So, I think they went with the original plan.
26:55They have been telling this
26:57in your talk show for the past 20 days.
26:59So, Mr. Saif's message
27:01couldn't reach there.
27:03I guess.
27:05Otherwise, I don't understand
27:07any other reason
27:09to override
27:11Mr. Imran Khan's message.
27:13I don't know.
27:15As far as I know,
27:17they went with the original plan.
27:19Sir, towards the end,
27:21we have talked about this repeatedly
27:23in the program.
27:25If a statement is made,
27:27the temperature, which is already
27:29vulnerable and sensitive,
27:31goes to the next level.
27:33As I said,
27:35when a journalist
27:37asked Mohsin Naqvi
27:39to tell his name,
27:41he was asked to tell his number.
27:43Secondly,
27:45as you said,
27:47I will not interrupt you.
27:49As you said,
27:51a police officer lost his life
27:53but not from our side.
27:55Someone died.
27:57So, you don't know the cause of death.
27:59So, if you claim that
28:01the bullet was fired from the front,
28:03then you will have to prove it.
28:05Otherwise, you will be fined.
28:07So, you have to be responsible.
28:09If a statement is made,
28:11the temperature will go to the next level.
28:13Forget about the temperature.
28:15Let me tell you.
28:17I wanted to talk about Rangers.
28:19You interrupted me.
28:21I have already said in two programs
28:23that this is disappointing.
28:25This is not acceptable
28:27in any way.
28:29These people are doing their duty.
28:31They are killing us.
28:33Despite this,
28:35this is not acceptable.
28:37But we think that no one of us was involved.
28:39You can investigate it.
28:41You can investigate it.
28:43You can do it according to the
28:45rules and regulations in Pakistan.
28:47You can punish anyone
28:49who is involved.
28:51You can punish anyone
28:53who is involved.
28:55Why not?
28:57If a person died
28:59because of someone,
29:01it doesn't matter
29:03who he is.
29:05No one has the right
29:07to kill anyone.
29:09No one has the right
29:11to kill a citizen,
29:13a police officer,
29:15or anyone else.
29:17I think this is disappointing.
29:19We have already
29:21condemned this.
29:23We think that if this is
29:25properly investigated,
29:27things will be revealed.
29:29On the other hand,
29:31the things that we have,
29:33let me tell you,
29:35the chaos that is going on right now,
29:37things are coming from here and there.
29:39Someone is calling from here and there.
29:41Once it is compiled,
29:43once it is authentic,
29:45then we will share
29:47the details with you.
29:49Like I said,
29:51I have called from there.
29:53They will definitely share the details with you.
29:55But the situation on the ground right now,
29:57you know what is happening there.
29:59We are just getting the news right now.
30:01Okay.
30:03It is better to confirm one thing
30:05and then prove it.
30:07After that, you will say that
30:09we will give a statement
30:11about what has happened.
30:13We have to sit and investigate.
30:15I don't want to do it.
30:17The court has to hear the case.
30:19I don't want to hear it.
30:21If you want to investigate,
30:23then don't put an allegation before that.
30:25No, if the defendants come and say something,
30:27on your TV or with me,
30:29then obviously,
30:31if someone's father or son or brother
30:33says something, then we have to do it.
30:35We cannot make a statement.
30:37But the court and the police
30:39will investigate it.
30:41Okay.
30:43Thank you, Sheikh Waqas Akram.
30:45This was Secretary Tilak
30:47from Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf.
30:49In the meantime,
30:51we are getting news from Islamabad
30:53that an operation has been launched
30:55against PTI protesters.
30:57I am talking to you right now,
30:59and we are getting news
31:01that Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf's central convoy