" Agar PTI Ke Log Aur Qayadat Nahi Nikalti To Hukoomat .....Mohammad Zubair
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00:00BBC is giving the figures of 3-4 people, Godin's story, New York Times has mentioned 4 people,
00:07Pakistan's justice system has its own narrative, I was listening to Rana Sanalo, he is saying that it has happened,
00:15Khakhan Abbasi was present on a TV show last night, he has also confirmed that there have been deaths,
00:22and the government will have to suffer the consequences.
00:27What do you think, this has become an incident, now the responsibility of the government is to untie it,
00:37decipher it and tell people that it has happened.
00:41Because Mohsin Naqvi is saying that if there has been any such incident, or if there is a dead body,
00:46then bring it in front of us.
00:48Muhammad Zubair sir, your time.
00:50We don't know what happened.
00:53People were running to save their lives.
00:58Thousands of people were running to save their lives.
01:04The whole world saw it.
01:06We also know that the lights were switched off.
01:09We also know that very few people saw what happened after that.
01:13We also know that Mateeullah Jaan was picked up,
01:17because he is an investigative reporter,
01:19and he went to investigate PIMS hospital,
01:24that how many dead bodies or injured people are there.
01:27That's why he was picked up.
01:29So you were clearing the evidence.
01:31So when all this will happen, then everyone has their own numbers.
01:35And I have nothing to do with it, whether it is 2, 4 or 10.
01:38If it is 10 or 6, I will tell you only one historical incident.
01:43In November 1968, two students of Polytechnic Institute,
01:50Bhutto Sahib had reached Polytechnic Institute Pindi,
01:54and the police shot two students.
01:58And that was the beginning of the movement against Ayub Khan.
02:02Ayub Khan had left within four months.
02:05Because those two were not acceptable.
02:07That two were martyred.
02:09If there is a debate on the number, it means that you have no concern.
02:14Whether it is 4, 2 or 10, what difference does it make?
02:17PTI is our number, I am not representing PTI.
02:20But I don't know the reality.
02:22So until such a thing is not made,
02:25and they say that after an incident, it is cleaned up.
02:29Like after the martyrdom of Benazir Bhutto, everything was cleaned up.
02:33It was cleaned up because the evidence had to be removed.
02:35So when you remove the evidence in the dark,
02:38then what will the commission do?
02:41Now PTI will take its own narrative.
02:44PMLN will take its own narrative.
02:46And we will all question what happened.
02:50Shahid Khan Abbasi is one of the most honourable and decent politicians.
02:56And Hassan Ayub will also agree with this.
02:58When he says that he himself buried two in his area,
03:03who were shot.
03:04Now the bullets were fired, it means that the bullets were fired.
03:07What difference does it make whether two or ten people were martyred?
03:10The question is why were the bullets fired?
03:12That is the question.
03:13It is not a question of how many people were martyred.
03:16If people had not run there, it would have meant more martyrdom.
03:19This is it.
03:20The way people were running, they did not run like this in their lives.
03:23So the point is that the bullets were fired.
03:25That attack was carried out earlier.
03:27When a police officer was martyred there.
03:30If the life of a political worker is at stake,
03:35then our uniformed personnel are also our enemies.
03:40They are taking the line of duty.
03:42We have seen the first bullet shot on their chest.
03:45Police personnel in uniform.
03:48Who shot him?
03:49This is the first thing.
03:50The second thing is that in the police order,
03:53the police have this permission
03:55that when law and order has to be maintained
03:57and there are more dangers,
03:59they are allowed to use weapons.
04:02Okay, Chaudhary Ghulam Sahib.
04:03Where they have a claim that they did not have weapons.
04:05Chaudhary sahib, look, we have been talking from the first day.
04:08Viewers, three rangers were martyred in this program.
04:11Obviously, they are our brothers, our elders.
04:14Someone's brother, someone's relative, someone's family.
04:17Obviously, they were elders.
04:19The whole of Pakistan is sorry.
04:21Similarly, a policeman was also martyred.
04:24But the question arises here, Chaudhary sahib,
04:27that this is being politicized by you.
04:30Your final comment, Chaudhary sahib.
04:32The solution to this, in your opinion,
04:34obviously, you are the most experienced among us.
04:37What would you suggest?
04:38Judicial commission or what should be done
04:40so that the solution to this problem is found?
04:43No, no one has to do anything.
04:45What will happen to the judiciary?
04:47What will happen to the rest?
04:48This decision will be made on the streets.