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00:00This program is brought to you by DAREGA KAITON NEN, the book that changed the world in just two days.
00:17So, where are we starting today?
00:19Today, we're at the Opera Buff in Shinjuku, Tokyo.
00:23It's got a certain vibe to it.
00:25The way the light is shining is very stylish.
00:27It's the right way to film, right?
00:29It's like a recital hall.
00:31What's outside?
00:33This isn't a regular bookstore.
00:35It's a piano.
00:37And there's a seat.
00:39As the name suggests, there's an opera practice room.
00:43It's a rare bookstore that also hosts opera performances.
00:47There's a bookshelf behind the practice room, right?
00:50Is that for sale?
00:52No, it's not.
00:53Oh, it's not for sale.
00:54There's also a section for selling books.
00:56There's a possibility that you can hear opera rehearsals.
00:59That's amazing.
01:00There's a possibility that Morikumi-san is in there.
01:04There's a section for selling books.
01:06There are more than 500 books related to opera.
01:09And the owner's hand-made costumes are stored at the Gunma factory.
01:15There are more than 1,000 of them.
01:17So that's how it used to be.
01:19Yes, that's how it used to be.
01:20But the bookstore is the main business.
01:23The bookstore is the main business.
01:25The owner's hand-made costumes are stored at the Gunma factory.
01:27Yes, the owner's hand-made costumes.
01:28I didn't know there was an opera practice room like this in Arashi.
01:32It's not Yakusho Kouji-san, is it?
01:33Which one?
01:34The one next to Arashi.
01:35Then the main business is here.
01:36What do you mean?
01:37The main business can't be the bookstore.
01:39Then the main business is here.
01:41It's a different bookstore.
01:42Yes.
01:43And this week, it's here.
01:44Yes.
01:45It's a village.
01:46You're good.
01:47It's Kouji-san's village.
01:49Yes, yes.
01:51Usually, we have a talk show.
01:54But today, we're going to move around.
01:56We're going to move around.
01:57We can't keep up with the camera.
01:58We're going to move around.
01:59I'd like to ask you to sit down.
02:02If that's the case.
02:03The other day, I was on a different show.
02:05This was already decided.
02:07I asked him to speak.
02:09And he said,
02:10Yes.
02:12It's amazing that he can speak.
02:15He's 36 years old.
02:17He's a very active actor in Yoshimoto Shinki.
02:20He's a writer who wrote a book about Tamayo Shimada's life.
02:24He's a writer who wrote a book about Tamayo Shimada's life.
02:29But he doesn't read much.
02:31Don't say that.
02:33There are a lot of pictures.
02:35He doesn't read much.
02:36He doesn't read much.
02:37He doesn't read much.
02:39That's good.
02:42I'm Tamayo.
02:44I don't know where I'm in the picture.
02:46I'm Tamayo.
02:47I'm Tamayo.
02:48I'm Tamayo.
02:57Like this.
02:58Like this.
02:59Like this.
03:00Like this.
03:03If you leave it for 20 minutes,
03:05If you leave it for 20 minutes,
03:07I think you can do it in the second half.
03:14Let's start with self-introduction.
03:17Are you ready?
03:18Yes.
03:19Hello.
03:20I'm Tamayo Shimada, the writer of Yoshimoto Shinki.
03:24I'm not in the picture.
03:26I'm not in the picture.
03:28Please leave it as it is.
03:30Please leave it as it is.
03:32You may not be in the picture at all.
03:36Please sit here.
03:38Where?
03:39From here?
03:40From here?
03:41My dance is not good.
03:45That's why you can do it!
03:50Sorry.
03:57I always ask this question.
03:59How old are you?
04:01I'm Yoshimoto Shin-Ki-Reki!
04:06I'm Yoshimoto Shin-Ki-Reki!
04:08She's worried about the camera angle.
04:11She wants to be in the frame.
04:16That's amazing.
04:19You know, there's a cute fairy called Sekirara.
04:27But this book is Sekirara!
04:30Why did you write it yourself?
04:32I'm sure I wrote it myself.
04:34It's impossible for an interviewer.
04:37It's impossible.
04:38You know, there's an interview book.
04:41It's impossible.
04:42She wrote it herself.
04:46So, you're 36 years old.
04:49How old were you?
04:51I was 17 years old.
04:53That's weird.
04:54High school?
04:55I was 4 years old in high school.
04:59I see.
05:01So, you're the same age as Kanako Yamada.
05:04Yes, I am.
05:05No, I'm not.
05:07You're totally different.
05:08But you haven't changed.
05:10No, I haven't.
05:11You're the opposite sex.
05:13I'm the opposite sex?
05:15What are you talking about?
05:17Did all the high school students at that time watch Yoji desu yo da?
05:21They all watched it.
05:23It became a hot topic.
05:26When I went to the nearest station,
05:28all the high school students were like Mosey's 10th floor.
05:34Were you always bright?
05:36When you were a student?
05:37Not at all.
05:39I became bright when I was in the 2nd grade of elementary school.
05:41I was a quiet girl in the 1st and 2nd grade of kindergarten.
05:45A quiet girl.
05:46You looked like a good girl.
05:48You looked like a good hostess in Ginza.
05:51You never talked.
05:53What made you change?
05:55I started calligraphy when I was 4 years old.
05:57My mom was also a calligrapher.
06:00It was amazing.
06:02My sister and I held a competition called Oni no Shimada Kyodai.
06:09Was it tough?
06:10It was tough before the competition.
06:12I had to write good characters to eat.
06:15I was writing with my back to the wall.
06:18I was hungry and got scolded.
06:20I cried a lot.
06:22My character for dream was Jua.
06:25Jua.
06:29It was a beautiful character.
06:30My dad said,
06:31Mom, it's about time.
06:33Let me eat.
06:35No, dad.
06:37What did your dad do?
06:38My dad ran a liquor store.
06:42Self-sustaining business.
06:44He was good at making jokes.
06:46Your dad?
06:47Was your dad bright?
06:49My dad was very bright.
06:50When I joined Yoshimoto,
06:52my dad was funny.
06:54There were many people at the liquor store.
06:58When I came to the location, my dad said,
07:01It's a bad joke.
07:03So, your dad made the BMA?
07:07That's right.
07:08My dad was beaten up.
07:11Your dad?
07:13To a comedian?
07:15Yes, to a young comedian.
07:17I thought it was okay.
07:19When I had a meal,
07:21my dad said,
07:22Are you okay?
07:25My dad was very delicious.
07:29He is a man of Osaka.
07:33Your mom was strict.
07:35Yes, she was.
07:36You've been doing BMA since you were 4.
07:38How did you face the weather?
07:40I couldn't speak.
07:43I started BMA when I was in the 2nd grade.
07:46At school?
07:47When I was writing,
07:49my grandfather, Nishioka sensei,
07:51who was a great teacher,
07:53turned my book 360 degrees.
07:59He said,
08:00This is it!
08:01This is my BMA!
08:02This is my life!
08:03I'm sorry.
08:04Let's do it again.
08:05I can't do it anymore.
08:06Did you feel confident after your BMA was announced?
08:10Yes.
08:11I felt confident.
08:13Was it quiet in class?
08:15Yes, it was very quiet.
08:17I couldn't speak.
08:19Then,
08:20Drift Daibakusho.
08:23What are you trying to do?
08:25The ending of Ken Shimura's movie,
08:28Daru-sa.
08:29Like a musical?
08:34I'm going down the stairs.
08:36I'm going down the stairs.
08:42I know what you're doing.
08:43I know what you're doing.
08:44You did something.
08:45I used it in the opening,
08:47but I recorded it a lot.
08:49I fell into the water,
08:50put on the cream of the cake,
08:53and washed it a lot.
08:55I recorded it.
08:56Late at night.
08:57You imitated it?
08:58Yes.
08:59You did it at school.
09:00You suddenly started to do it.
09:01I did.
09:03You didn't look like an elementary school student.
09:06Ken Shimura, Ken Kenaru.
09:07Ken Kenaru.
09:08I did a lot of things like that.
09:10I did a parody of what was popular at that time.
09:13Did you get accepted?
09:14I got accepted.
09:15Since then, I've been popular.
09:18When I was in high school,
09:19I went to a girls' high school again.
09:21You were the most popular.
09:23You didn't care about the reputation of boys.
09:24Yes.
09:25I got accepted.
09:26There were 9 classes,
09:27but during the break,
09:29all 9 classes were closed.
09:32I went around.
09:33You didn't care about the reputation.
09:35You went to the girls' high school.
09:36Yes.
09:37There was a teacher who was a world-renowned doctor.
09:39Yes.
09:40You made a fool of yourself.
09:41Yes.
09:42You made a fool of yourself.
09:43Yes.
09:44I think my classmates at that time are laughing at me now.
09:46Yes.
09:52Wait a minute.
09:53Wait a minute.
09:54Wait a minute.
09:55Wait a minute.
09:56Wait a minute.
09:57Wait a minute.
09:58Wait a minute.
09:59Wait a minute.
10:00Yes.
10:01I want to ask you a lot of questions.
10:04You wrote about love.
10:06Yes.
10:07I remember it very much.
10:08How old were you when you first met a man?
10:14I was 26 years old.
10:1626 years old.
10:17Can I ask you?
10:19I was 26 years old.
10:2126 years old.
10:22It's a real age.
10:24I was 26 years old.
10:25It doesn't make sense.
10:26What happened at 26 years old?
10:28I entered a new theater.
10:30Yes.
10:31When Hanako Yamada came in,
10:36she was the third actress.
10:40But she was really natural.
10:43She was like Jimmy or Hanako.
10:46She couldn't win no matter what she did.
10:48At that time, I thought so.
10:51It was a comedy of subtraction.
10:54Can you do it?
10:55Yes.
10:56Please do it today.
11:00I'll do it today.
11:02I'll do it today.
11:04It's been a long time.
11:06I'll try to lose weight.
11:10I'll try to do it normally.
11:19I'll try to learn acting.
11:22There is a senior named Kazuo Kuwabara.
11:25She is my grandmother.
11:26I saw her from her sleeve.
11:29I decided to fall in love with her.
11:32You decided to fall in love with her.
11:37Hanako Yamada didn't have that feeling at that time.
11:41Who did you fall in love with?
11:43She was an AD.
11:45New theater?
11:46At that time, I went to a street stall with a police officer.
11:50I walked around the city and talked to the people in the city.
11:54I was an AD of that program.
11:56I ate rice for the third time.
11:59I was eaten.
12:01It's a story of living alone.
12:03It's a story of running.
12:05It was before it was popular.
12:06There was a thud on the wall.
12:09Is it Ishida Yasushi?
12:12It's not that.
12:16He did something strange.
12:19He kissed me for the first time.
12:26He asked me if I could go to his house.
12:35I can't go.
12:37I am now.
12:39I was beaten.
12:44I was beaten by his hair.
12:45Please tell me quietly.
12:47It's a story of 5 seconds.
12:48It's the first time for a woman.
12:53I can't go.
12:55I can't go.
12:56I can't say no.
12:57I can't say no.
12:59I opened the door of the auto lock.
13:02I tried to go in.
13:05I thought it was no good.
13:06I pressed the button.
13:09He came in slowly.
13:12I pressed the button.
13:14The auto lock became a fool.
13:16I pressed the button.
13:19I went to his house.
13:22I couldn't chase him.
13:26But maybe he said that his pride was hurt.
13:31I didn't have a cell phone at that time.
13:34I went to his house.
13:36I tried many times.
13:37But he didn't come out.
13:39I married a staff of Yoshimoto.
13:47I was in a bad relationship with him.
13:50I was in a bad relationship with the staff and the actor.
13:53I was in a bad relationship with him.
13:56I heard that he was close to someone who said that his pride was hurt.
14:02I told him that he could put on his shoulder.
14:05I asked him to call that person.
14:08He said, if he picks up the phone, he could lend it to me.
14:11He didn't answer my phone at all.
14:14I apologized to him.
14:16I asked him again.
14:18I asked him again.
14:20He's trying to call me.
14:23I tried many times.
14:25He is systematically attacking.
14:28Thank you for doing that.
14:30I said I love you but he didn't respond.
14:32So I just said to him I love you.
14:34And he said to me he loves me.
14:36I was so sad.
14:38So I didn't receive any love.
14:40He ignored you?
14:42Yes.
14:44I said sorry, thank you so much.
14:46He said he will treat me to dinner.
14:48Then, I really fell in love with him.
14:50How did you get married?
14:52You got married to his staff.
14:54Then you had Kusume.
14:56Yes.
14:58I was actually married to my second husband.
15:04How old is your daughter now?
15:06She's in the first year of high school.
15:09My second husband was diagnosed with rectal cancer when he was 8 months old.
15:19He was working in Nagoya.
15:24I used to go to Osaka from time to time.
15:28But I decided to go to Osaka.
15:31My husband couldn't go to Osaka either.
15:36We had a lot of problems.
15:38I couldn't get along with my mother-in-law.
15:41We had a hard time talking to each other.
15:45We had to separate.
15:47My daughter asked me to take care of her.
15:52I couldn't say anything to her.
15:56It was a storm of regret.
15:59I couldn't bear it.
16:02We were separated for about 9 years.
16:07With your daughter?
16:08Yes.
16:10I couldn't get along with my mother-in-law.
16:22I couldn't get along with my daughter at night.
16:26I had to go to the park and go back to Nagoya.
16:30So we were separated.
16:33I live in the first year of middle school.
16:36I was told to listen to my parents.
16:40But there was a person who I only met once in a while.
16:46He suddenly said something arrogant.
16:50I was surprised and exploded.
16:52I was surprised and exploded.
16:56I didn't know.
16:58He said a lot of cheeky things.
17:01We had a big fight.
17:03Did you have a big fight?
17:05Did you throw things at each other?
17:07I can't tell you.
17:09I can't tell you.
17:11I couldn't tell you.
17:13It was a big fight.
17:15It was a big fight.
17:16So you lived together for about 3 years.
17:20Yes.
17:213 years and 4 years.
17:23Yes.
17:25How about now?
17:26After a big fight,
17:30we got closer little by little.
17:33You are aware that your mother is in Shimada Tamayo.
17:36Yes.
17:37You are aware that you are on TV.
17:41But you are in the first year of middle school.
17:43Yes.
17:44I was very anxious.
17:47You said something.
17:49I was looking forward to the radio.
17:52I always listen to it on the futon.
17:55You are a modest girl.
17:57You must have a lot of DNA.
18:00Maybe.
18:01You are very modest.
18:03I'm glad.
18:04But I'm glad that you like comedy.
18:08I respect your mother.
18:11You may not be born yet.
18:13I'm not born yet.
18:15I'm not born yet.
18:16But you always laugh at the scene.
18:21You always laugh at the scene.
18:25You may think that your mother is funny.
18:31But there is something different.
18:34You know that.
18:35You make her worry.
18:37You make her worry.
18:38You can't do that.
18:40I was exposed.
18:41You were exposed.
18:42That's great.
18:43I was exposed.
18:44I was exposed.
18:45I was exposed.
18:46Have you ever thought about quitting comedy?
18:50I have.
18:52I have.
18:53Why?
18:54Because of your relationship with your children.
18:56I come to the studio once before the new season starts.
19:03I have no time.
19:05You have that in the script.
19:08You have that in the script.
19:09You have that in the script.
19:10It's good.
19:11It's good.
19:13I used to do that.
19:16I have that in the script.
19:17I see.
19:18When you have time, you act like a mother.
19:22It's all good things.
19:24Like you can play with him.
19:26Yes, yes, yes.
19:27And you can eat good food.
19:29Actually, we've been close since last night.
19:33Somehow, for your daughter.
19:36Yes.
19:37I'll give her a message.
19:39For your daughter.
19:40Daughter, mom.
19:42It's hard to do.
19:43Stop it.
19:44What do you want to tell her in this book?
19:47What do you want to tell her in this book?
19:50Well...
19:55I haven't thought about it.
19:59Let's skip it.
20:00Let's skip it.
20:02What do you want to tell her in this book?
20:04This book can't be interesting without movement.
20:10I said it can't be interesting.
20:13It can't be interesting.
20:14You don't think it's interesting because there's no movement.
20:18I didn't get it at all.
20:23I'm the opposite.
20:25I think letters are better.
20:28On the contrary.
20:29Yes, on the contrary.
20:30You can read it calmly.
20:32That's right.
20:33Is there anything you want to tell her?
20:35Anything I want to tell her?
20:42I should have gone to study English.
20:45What's that?
20:46What's that?
20:47What's going on?
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