Video Information: 30.08.22, Interview Session, Greater Noida
Context:
What is the solution to climate change?
How spirituality can stop the climate change?
Climate change have no scientific solution
How veganism is related to compassion?
Why veganism is necessary for today's generation?
What is the relation between veganism and climate change?
How could veganism change the world?
Music Credits: Milind Date
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#acharyaprashant #climatechange #veganism #populationexplosion
Context:
What is the solution to climate change?
How spirituality can stop the climate change?
Climate change have no scientific solution
How veganism is related to compassion?
Why veganism is necessary for today's generation?
What is the relation between veganism and climate change?
How could veganism change the world?
Music Credits: Milind Date
~~~~~
#acharyaprashant #climatechange #veganism #populationexplosion
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00:00Dear Guruji, we are so honored to be here today.
00:08I'm glad.
00:10Can you tell us the truth about the dairy industry?
00:15A lot of Indians might not know what's going on, and for the ones that do know that's going
00:21on, they usually respond by saying, well, Lord Krishna had milk or it's our tradition
00:28or we have to do abhishek, it's in the culture, things like that.
00:33Could you explain?
00:35See, even if one is not in possession of facts, there are a few basic rules of thumb.
00:46Let's say, let's say I have this, right?
00:51And it yields me money.
00:53And who am I?
00:55I am the usual, normal, average, greedy person.
01:03That's how we all are since birth.
01:06And if this is yielding me money and comforts and whatever, first thing, secondly, what
01:19all will I do to extract more money from it?
01:22Thirdly, will I not want more and more of such money spinners?
01:29So I may not know what we do with the buffalo or the cow, in the factual sense, I might
01:36not know what is happening exactly inside that dairy or that farm.
01:40But don't I know how man is?
01:43I may not know the facts of the dairy industry, but do I not know the facts of our inner self?
01:51We are greedy people.
01:53And if an animal can give me something that gives me money, I'll do anything to extract
02:03more and more of that stuff from that animal, which happens to be a female mammal.
02:13So I'll do everything to get more milk, which means I have to keep her constantly pregnant,
02:24which means I have to artificially inseminate her, and I don't need to have video evidence
02:30for that.
02:31I probably don't even need to visit the dairy to see whether it is actually happening.
02:36It is bound to happen because that's the way we are.
02:40And we are the ones who run that dairy.
02:43So how is it possible that when we are corrupt and greedy and exploitative in all aspects,
02:49all walks of life, at all times, we'll just spare the poor animal?
02:54We don't spare our relatives, we don't spare our own family, we don't spare our own selves.
02:59Why will we spare the animal?
03:01So you can just, using your own example, extrapolate what we would be doing to the
03:11cow or the buffalo or the goat or to the hen, and you won't be wrong, provided you are extrapolating
03:19with some honesty.
03:25Why will you want to show, forget compassion, even basic mercy to the animal, if extending
03:34mercy reduces the productivity of that animal resource?
03:44Even at the time of slaughter, you will slaughter the animal in the worst possible way, provided
03:52that worst possible way is financially beneficial to you.
03:56Is that not so?
03:57And I don't even need evidence to corroborate what I am saying, though plenty of evidence
04:02is already available, and it's not confidential.
04:06You just have to Google or search for videos and you will get it.
04:11So if giving an animal painless death requires an additional two minutes, why will I spend
04:21even those additional two minutes, even in the moment of slaughter?
04:28So it's obvious what we are doing to the animal and they don't have a voice, so they won't
04:32never come out on their own to narrate their story.
04:38A lot of people think we have a cow in the backyard or these cows are being respected
04:45or it's a goshala, the calf is getting some milk, it's okay.
04:52A lot of people are talking about this A2 milk.
04:55Can you elaborate a little bit on that?
04:57You see, it does not matter what the name of that particular species is.
05:03It's obvious it's not the human species, right?
05:08Is there any other species that consumes the milk of anybody other than its own mother
05:15and that too for a limited period of time?
05:18First question, a very basic question.
05:21Any species that consumes, any mammalian species that consumes the milk of anybody other than
05:29its own mother, that too for a very limited period of time.
05:33Secondly, is goat milk useful to, let's say, a tiger cub?
05:43Can you raise a tiger cub on goat milk?
05:47And the tiger, being the tiger, has all the prowess to subdue the goat and consume her
05:55milk.
05:56Does the tiger do that?
05:57Even the tiger knows that it's nonsensical to even attempt.
06:03And how can the milk of one species be useful to the kids of another species?
06:12The buffalo milk is constituted to bring up a huge, mindless buffalo weighing 500 or 800
06:26kilograms.
06:27It is not a fluid designed by Prakriti to be useful to a human kid, it's obvious.
06:37That's the reason why buffalo milk is not the same as human milk, else the two would
06:43have been the same, which means human milk is for human babies and buffalo milk or cow
06:50milk is for their own calves.
06:54You exchange the two, it won't be suitable.
06:56In fact, you take, you just flip the example.
07:02If you give human milk to a tiger cub or to a goat kid, it won't be beneficial.
07:13Now that was as far as kids go, but the thing is we consume milk, we continue to consume
07:20milk long after we have ceased to be kids.
07:25What does a 40 or 60 year old mean by consuming so much dairy?
07:31And I watched your well made movie yesterday, there was this figure that Indians are consuming
07:38what 350-370 grams of milk per day, which is the highest in the world or way above the
07:43global average.
07:46What is a 50 year old doing, consuming so much dairy?
07:50You are not even a kid.
07:51First thing, you are not a kid.
07:53You don't even have the right enzymes in your body to process, to digest the milk protein
08:00and then again that milk that you are taking in is not coming from your own species, it's
08:05coming from somewhere else.
08:07So just a little application of mind tells that it means nothing, it does not matter
08:13whether it's the milk of a two or a goat or a yak or a camel or it doesn't matter.
08:25And I don't think I have answered all parts of your question, there was something else
08:29you added to the question.
08:31I think you covered it.
08:35You said something about Lord Krishna?
08:37Yes.
08:38I think people will make excuses for the ones that do know there is cruelty in milk, but
08:44they will say Lord Krishna had it or it's tradition or Abhishek.
08:49Lord Krishna consuming milk in his childhood, in his childhood, only in his childhood.
08:56Do you hear or read of him consuming milk after he was grown up?
09:01First question.
09:02When you have an avatar, that avatar is constrained by the limits and conditions and conventions
09:18of his time and age.
09:23So he was brought up in a clan of cow keepers, cattle rearers.
09:38That was the profession that entire neighborhood was following, right?
09:46And Balkrishna is just a little baby, he will do what the entire surrounding is doing and
09:53he will wear what everybody else is wearing.
09:58So saying that little Krishna used to drink milk is just like saying that little Krishna
10:08used to wear the costumes of his time.
10:12Just as he is bound to wear the costumes of his time, similarly as long as he is little,
10:20he is bound to follow the customs of his time.
10:24We are talking about avatar, we are not talking about Atma or Brahm or Satya here and all
10:31the avatars are definitely limited by the conditions of their time.
10:40It is believed that you take birth, sambhavami yuge yuge, you take birth in a particular
10:49milieu and if you are taking birth in a particular milieu, of course you don't expect Krishna
10:54to walk around in western formals.
10:56He will wear what they did, his parents and relatives and the entire area and he'll speak
11:03the language that they spoke.
11:06Just as he would speak the language as was spoken by the people of his time, similarly
11:13as long as he is young, he will follow the customs of the people of his time because
11:21the avatar is not supposed to be perfect in the first place.
11:26The avatar is not purna satya, the avatar is not even supposed to be the perfect truth.
11:36Since the avatar is embodied, the avatar has come to be born, so he is supposed to
11:42have the bearings, attributes, characteristics of his particular time and age.
11:50Now that is the reason, now does he play the violin?
11:55He plays the flute.
11:57Why the flute and why not the violin?
12:00Does he speak French?
12:03He speaks the language of that place and time.
12:05Now why doesn't he speak French?
12:07Because he was born at a place where there was no French.
12:11He was born at a place where there was no violin.
12:16If an avatar today takes birth in France, he will probably play the piano and speak French.
12:27So these are time bound attributes.
12:31These are not to be taken as timeless.
12:33These depend on the time in which the avatar was born.
12:38That's the reason why different avatars show different characteristics.
12:41Now truth is one, then why are the characteristics of the different avatars so much at variance
12:47with each other?
12:49Somebody is very composed, somebody talks in one way, somebody wears one kind of attire,
12:54somebody is carrying around in another way.
12:58Why are such variations seen?
13:00Because those are the variations of the time and place of their birth, Desh-Kaal.
13:07They are not variations in the truth.
13:10Now what depended on a certain time and place must be left to that time and place.
13:18What is it that must be carried forward, that which is timeless?
13:24Learning habits, sartorial habits, linguistic preferences, where do all these come from?
13:32They come from that geography and that age.
13:38And geography and age are not timeless, they are limited.
13:45Such habits, such characteristics belong only to that period and must not be carried forward
13:51to the coming centuries.
13:54What is it then that must be carried forward to the coming centuries up to time eternity?
14:02The Bhagavad Gita.
14:03Because in that you have something which time can never besmear or blemish.
14:13The Bhagavad Gita alone is timeless in the entire narrative of Shri Krishna.
14:19All else is time bound and that which is time bound has very little utility.
14:25When we go to the scriptures, when we look at our honored avatars, so when we look at
14:31our avatars, we look at them to have a glimpse of that which time can never touch.
14:41We do not look at them in a historical sense.
14:46We do not look at them to follow the things that they did at that point in history, in time.
15:00We do not look at them because we want to emulate what was happening in the 10th century BC.
15:07The 10th century BC is gone, however the Bhagavad Gita shall never turn stale and it is to
15:15Gita that we offer our love, our respect, our salutations.
15:21All else is just time and place and what is there at one point in time shall be turned
15:34useless by another point in time.
15:39Time is just the flow of Prakriti and that exactly is the message of Bhagavad Gita.
15:46Now at what place is it mentioned in Bhagavad Gita that to follow the teachings of Krishan
15:54you have to be a dairy consumer.
15:58So Arjun is unwilling to fight, Arjun does not know his dharm and Krishan tells him Arjun
16:05have some Lassi.
16:07Is that how the Bhagavad Gita proceeds?
16:10Is there any mention of dairy in the Gita?
16:14So when you look at Krishan, please look for the essential.
16:18That would be the only respect that you can offer to Shri Krishan.
16:26All else is just time bound Bramitics.
16:30It fades away very quickly, no point trying to hold on to it.
16:35You cannot stop the flow of time but definitely you can bow your head down in front of that
16:42which is timeless and that should be our attempt.
16:47Can you explain what a mother is going through with her calf is the same thing as what we are going through.
16:57Obviously, very obviously.
16:59But then first of all we have to first admit that the human mother too in her attachment
17:07to the child is very much an animal.
17:12We don't admit that.
17:14We believe that the human mother and the cow are separate beings, they are not.
17:22Because attachment is very much an animalistic quality.
17:29What happens is we treat the mother's relationship with the kid as love, don't we say that?
17:36The mother's love for the child.
17:39The moment you say mother's love for the child, you have artificially raised that animalistic
17:47relationship to a conscious level.
17:51Because attachment is animalistic, love is conscious.
17:55The fact is that even the human mother is just attached to the child.
18:01Why?
18:02Because even the human mother is an animal and similarly the cow or the buffalo or the
18:07goat is attached to her child.
18:11Now when you admit that human beings too are just animals, now you see that the human mother
18:22is just the same as the cow.
18:26And if you treat with great respect the relation between the human mother and her baby, then
18:34how can you treat with disrespect the relationship between the cow and the calf?
18:38Are you getting it?
18:40As long as you do not see that the woman equals the animal equals the cow.
18:47How are the woman and the cow same?
18:51How are the woman and the cow same?
18:52Because they both are animals, right?
18:55But if you admit that they both are animals, you will have to substitute the word love
18:59with attachment.
19:02Because animals can have attachment but no love.
19:06Instead we want to call the relationship between the human mother and the child as love.
19:12You want to call that love, therefore you will not admit that the human mother too is
19:17an animal.
19:18Therefore you will be forced to declare that the human mother and the cow are different.
19:24The cow is an animal, the human mother is divine.
19:27Now this is a bad, false and artificial division.
19:32It is imaginary, it does not exist.
19:36Man and animal are normally one, they become different only when man walks on the spiritual
19:44path and raises his consciousness, otherwise man and animal are just one.
19:52Even if man and animal are just one, my argument is, have the same standards for them.
19:59If you treat the relationship between a human mother and her kid with so much respect, we
20:06have so many songs in adulation of Maa's Vamta, then why separate the poor cow from
20:17her calf and milk her and make fancy statements like the calf cannot digest so much milk and
20:23therefore we are doing the cow a favor by taking away the extra milk.
20:27All kinds of extraordinary arguments are made.
20:32By milking the cow, we are doing her a favor.
20:34Because the calf will die if it takes so much of milk.
20:39So Prakriti has gone totally wrong.
20:42Prakriti has filled up the cow's udders with extra milk for the benefit of mankind.
20:56Even the greatest poets will be belittled by such imaginative heights.
21:01Prakriti decided that man is my favorite kid, so for the sake of man, let me bless the cow
21:07with extra milk, otherwise how will man survive?
21:12Man is such a little baby that he needs to have milk even if he is 80 years of age.
21:19Even at age 80, what you are doing is milk, milk, milk.
21:24And that is so symbolically powerful, no?
21:28The fact is even at the age of 80, most of us are like 3 months old.
21:33Therefore we need milk.
21:35Mental age is not more than 3 months.
21:38So you need milk.
21:39Otherwise is it not so absurd, you are 80 years old and you are consuming a baby's
21:47diet, milk.
21:50What kind of, we could have laughed over it, it is just that it is very violent, we cannot
21:57laugh over it.
22:04Man is such a little baby that it must steal the food of actual babies.
22:10We are such babies that we must steal the food of actual babies.
22:19Perfect.
22:20Thank you so much.