Kamran Murtaza told inside story of Fazal ur Rehman and Bilawal Bhutto's meeting

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00:00Sir, first of all, tell us, if someone says or estimates that,

00:05because I have seen some such things,

00:07that Bilawal's meeting with Maulana,

00:11for the Noon League, the bell of danger, question mark, etc.

00:14So, is this estimation based on exaggeration,

00:17or is there a reason for the government to be worried about this?

00:21No, it is still based on exaggeration.

00:25Based on exaggeration, yes.

00:27So, this means that the bill regarding the registration of Madarif,

00:31the signature that has not yet been done by Mr. Dardari,

00:33this has been discussed in today's meeting only on that one point.

00:37Is it right to say this?

00:39There has been a lot of discussion.

00:43This was also a point.

00:45I mean, you can say that this was the main point.

00:48The rest of the discussion has been on other things as well.

00:51Now, those are the matters of the closed room.

00:55You had said in our program earlier as well,

00:59that this was a form of deceit against us,

01:01that the government had deceived us,

01:03and this bill had been assured that it would be done after the 26th amendment,

01:06but Mr. Dardari did not sign it.

01:08So, what does Mr. Bilawal say?

01:10What is the reason for signing it?

01:12Something like this had already been decided.

01:14What Mr. Bilawal had to say today,

01:18he had said that it is possible that tomorrow,

01:21let's say, if you had brought a bill like this,

01:27it is possible that we would have supported it,

01:29but it is also possible that we would not have supported it.

01:31But now we have voted for it,

01:33we have decided with you,

01:35now this bill is not yours,

01:37this is our bill as well.

01:39And in any case,

01:41it will be presented in the form of a law.

01:45So, if he is owning so much,

01:47then he should have signed it.

01:49I don't know about Mr. Dardari,

01:51he is helpless,

01:53but we discussed the path of helplessness.

01:57Mr. Bilawal said,

01:59okay, we will consider your suggestion,

02:03we will discuss it,

02:05and then we will talk about it after a couple of days.

02:09The couplet came to your mind,

02:11you talked about helplessness,

02:13there must be some helplessness,

02:15people are not disloyal like this,

02:17there must be some helplessness,

02:19people are not disloyal like this,

02:21there must be some helplessness,

02:23Mr. President, what do you think?

02:25Look, apparently,

02:27it seems that the President is of the People's Party,

02:29but when the President is the President,

02:31then he is of the state.

02:33Okay, then he has to take care

02:35of the interest of the state as well.

02:37You know, he is of the state,

02:39I did not say to take care of the interest,

02:41I said that the President is of the state as well.

02:43Sir, this is happening a lot,

02:45Mr. Modi, please confirm this impression,

02:47that on one hand,

02:49there is Mr. Wawda,

02:51who is considered to be close to the powerful boys,

02:53he has started firing on Noon League,

02:55he met Mr. Bilawal,

02:57Mr. Bilawal met him here,

02:59that is, people in Islamabad are saying

03:01that maybe, I don't know,

03:03for the next 4, 6, 8 months,

03:05I have heard this off the record from some people,

03:07these sinful ears,

03:09that maybe as a result of this,

03:11Noon League will be removed from the driving seat

03:13Is there any such matter?

03:15Well, when after this meeting,

03:17I had not reached my office yet,

03:19I was in the bus,

03:21so Wawda had spoken to me,

03:23he had called,

03:25and he was saying to Maulana,

03:27that I can meet Maulana,

03:29I said that I have just come out,

03:31and then we will see tomorrow,

03:33tomorrow after 2 or 3 o'clock,

03:35I have told him,

03:37and I have also conveyed the message,

03:39so whatever time I get,

03:41Inshallah,

03:43it is expected,

03:45tomorrow,

03:47and the other thing is,

03:49the driving seat of Pakistan,

03:51is a very low seat,

03:53on that at any time,

03:55anyone can sit,

03:57you can also sit,

03:59Me too?

04:01Everything is possible in Pakistan,

04:03you can come as a caretaker,

04:05and if I can come,

04:07who is standing from his area,

04:09and if he is standing from his area,

04:11then even a consular cannot be elected,

04:13so you are an elected MNA,

04:15and a group of Senators,

04:17then you can come,

04:19in the next set up,

04:21if the relationship changes,

04:23see, before this,

04:25the caretakers were not elected,

04:27my friend Anwaz,

04:29but they were not elected,

04:31when they can,

04:33why can't Badami sir?

04:35and when Badami sir comes,

04:37No, no, I am talking about a new relationship,

04:39that if something like this happens,

04:41Relationships can change at any time,

04:43see, this is an unacceptable government,

04:45you agree with this,

04:47whatever claims they make,

04:49they say that the psychological limit has been crossed,

04:51this has happened, that has happened,

04:53but it is an unacceptable government,

04:55despite this, no one is believing them,

04:59after them,

05:01they have no goodwill in the market,

05:03but if there is such a set up,

05:05that the Noon League is behind,

05:07and the People's Party is ahead,

05:09then will it be acceptable?

05:11I don't know,

05:13but Bilawal sir,

05:15I mean,

05:17Bilawal is a good man,

05:19there is nothing wrong in that,

05:23if the steering is in Bilawal sir's hands,

05:25then you can also be in the riders,

05:29I don't know,

05:31because I am not in the decision-making,

05:33of the party,

05:35and,

05:37with Bilawal,

05:39I mean,

05:41there is nothing wrong in coming to Bilawal,

05:43he is a sensible man,

05:45I have seen his depth,

05:47and it is very interesting,

05:49in the last few days,

05:51a lot of people have been convinced of Bilawal sir's loyalty,

05:53I have heard these words from Mr. Hora,

05:55Bilawal sir is a very good man,

05:57and tomorrow all parties are going,

05:59I think Maulana has given the permission,

06:03to the Subah-e-Jamaat,

06:05to go there,

06:07and they asked what to say,

06:09and he said,

06:11for now you have to listen,

06:13what they say,

06:15Right,

06:17and Maulana sir's statement is going on,

06:19that if we come to Islamabad,

06:21then we can do this and that,

06:23so is this the same tradition,

06:25that if there is no signature on it,

06:27this is the same thing,

06:29we told them 8 times,

06:31that you can think till 8,

06:33and we can think till 8,

06:35so both of you can think,

06:37we had a commitment,

06:39and after the commitment,

06:41not only the commitment,

06:43but you all voted on it,

06:45and after voting,

06:47it was accepted by both parties,

06:49and not only that,

06:51after that there was only one objection,

06:53and we addressed that objection,

06:55and when it was over,

06:57you put another objection,

06:59and when the objection was put,

07:01and it was accepted,

07:03then the matter was over,

07:05and after that,

07:07the deal was signed.

07:09Sir, the last question,

07:11is about Governor Raj,

07:13it was discussed in the Cabinet,

07:15in your opinion,

07:17is there a situation in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,

07:19that Governor Raj should be appointed,

07:21or not?

07:23Despite the fact that,

07:25it is a part of the constitution,

07:27that Governor Raj should be appointed,

07:29but despite that,

07:31I think it is wrong,

07:33and I reject it,

07:35and I think the Jamaat should not be in this situation.

07:37Right.

Kamran Murtaza told inside story of Fazal ur Rehman and Bilawal Bhutto's meeting

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