2x SB Champ Rob Ninkovich joins! Does Ninko think Bill would really coach college? How does he think he'd do?
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00:00I was going to ask you about Bill, your former head coach,
00:04and the news this morning that he
00:06has interviewed for a college football coaching.
00:10You know when you go to school, you get your resume out there,
00:13you got to have a few practice runs of interviews?
00:17Yeah.
00:18It just feels like maybe this was just a practice
00:20go at it before he hits the open market in the NFL.
00:23And there's eight teams, 10 teams
00:25that are interviewing him on potentially him
00:28being the next head coach.
00:29Was it a Zoom interview, or did he do it in person?
00:32I mean, when you get a chance to go to Chapel Hill,
00:34you make the flight.
00:34I'm sure he was down there with the lady.
00:36I mean, he's checking out the campus.
00:40Do you think we've been debating it all morning,
00:42do you think he's just trying to send the signal that he wants
00:44to get back into coaching, or do you
00:46think he's legitimately considering college?
00:50I mean, I would avoid college at all costs
00:52if it was me in that position.
00:54First of all, the recruiting has just
00:55got to be terrible these days.
00:57And it's also not like a big-time school
01:00where you have the recruiting tools that
01:03say Clemson, Alabama, LSU, all these crazy schools
01:07where these kids are getting, what, Michigan quarterback?
01:10Like what, $12 million?
01:11$10 or $12 million.
01:13Oh, yeah, it'll be great with that.
01:14His tax guy will be really great with that money.
01:16Do you think Bill's personality would be good with college kids
01:19right now?
01:20Do you think he could soften it up for them?
01:22What's his class?
01:22What's sociology?
01:24I mean, give me a break.
01:25Because I don't even know.
01:27Coach is getting in trouble all the time
01:29right now when it comes to how being so hard on kids.
01:32Well, maybe he would lighten up a little bit.
01:37I don't know.
01:38Maybe he has a change in personality from his year off.
01:41Or his girlfriend.
01:44I mean, hey, Greg, I don't know.
01:47But I mean, you bring up recruiting,
01:48does Bill really want to be flying at 72 years old?
01:52But he went back.
01:54He loves the process of building something, or coming in
02:00and building his staff out, and how he recruits.
02:03And if Bill Belichick, if you're an 18-year-old kid
02:07and Bill Belichick is at your dinner table,
02:09aren't you like, oh my gosh.
02:10And he's got all his rings on.
02:12Well, Wiggy said that doesn't matter anymore.
02:14Probably not to some of these kids.
02:16I think the thing that the kids will buy, might jump into,
02:20is, oh, Bill, you can help me get to the NFL.
02:23Because that's what they all, these kids,
02:25when they go to schools, all these recruits,
02:27that's the first thing is, I know it's the NIL.
02:29But then it's like, OK, how can you
02:31help me to get to the NFL?
02:33And Bill wouldn't be out on the road recruiting anyways.
02:35He'd be like, the elite of the elite, five stars.
02:39He would kind of, you know, sweep it up.
02:40I don't know, Saban walked into Michael Orr's house
02:43in the blindside.
02:44I mean, I think there was a big problem with that movie.
02:46Isn't there some problem with that, like an issue there?
02:51But I have a, Wiggy.
02:53When you went to school, didn't you have a few guys
02:55that failed out of school?
02:56Yeah.
02:57We had a bunch fail out.
02:58I mean, maybe more than.
03:00I mean, we had a bunch.
03:01You don't hear about that anymore.
03:02Where'd you go, Purdue?
03:03Purdue, yeah.
03:04A lot of guys don't make it.
03:05So the first semester, they don't make it.
03:07So now with this NIL, you give a kid $500,000,
03:12and he doesn't go to class, like, you kick him out?
03:14Yeah, I don't think that.
03:15But you got to remember, they were a lot hotter on us
03:18when, you know, when we did have to go to class.
03:20Nowadays, you don't think they got to go to class?
03:23So you know what?
03:24That's when you have a professor who sits up there.
03:26He's sitting like, this guy thinks he's going to get an A.
03:29Yeah.
03:30F. You know, like, I always had a professor at Purdue
03:33that I felt like they hated me.
03:34So I would go sit in the front and be like, oh, Mr. Johnson,
03:37how are you?
03:37I'm Rob.
03:38Nice to meet you.
03:39If there's any opportunity for me to have extra credit,
03:41I would love to participate.
03:42That's smart.
03:43Yeah.
03:43And if they know you by your first name, I always got a B.
03:47Play the game.
03:49But we talked about it.
03:50It wasn't an A guy.
03:51It was a B guy.
03:52Specifically, we talked about it with Michigan.
03:55And this kid is going to, at 18 years old,
03:59he's going to have $10.5 million, $11 million, $12
04:02million.
04:02Oh, five.
04:03Five now.
04:04Five and a half.
04:05Five later.
04:05Taxes.
04:06Or taxes, yeah.
04:07Taxes.
04:08And so is that a good thing in your mind for college football?
04:11No.
04:11I think it's terrible.
04:12It's terrible.
04:13It's the demise.
04:14It's the downward trend of college football.
04:17I love it.
04:18He loves it.
04:18But guess what?
04:19I absolutely love it.
04:20He's a quarterback.
04:20He's going to be driving a, he might buy a Ferrari.
04:23So he's going to pull into the parking lot.
04:25And his starting tackle, who has to protect his blind side,
04:28is going to be in a used F-150 from like 2010.
04:31It's going to be on a bike.
04:32Or on a scooter.
04:34Yeah, but in today's game, you know,
04:36like his starting tackle might not be in that world.
04:39But I guarantee you his starting tackle, at Michigan,
04:42they're making $100,000.
04:44That ain't $10 million.
04:45Yeah, but that's $100,000.
04:47How do you coach an 18-year-old who's making $10 million?
04:49You don't.
04:50That's the issue.
04:51But you've got to understand, right?
04:53His mindset is, I got $10 million.
04:55But what do you think his ultimate goal is?
04:57NFL.
04:57Right.
04:58So I guess you're coaching him in that way.
05:011% of these guys have never had an opportunity to play in the league.
05:041%.
05:05But do you believe that?
05:06See, nowadays, I understand how difficult it is.
05:10But nowadays, every player who's being recruited at that level,
05:14that's their mindset.
05:15Like, I can get there.
05:17It was a lot different, maybe, when I played him.
05:20They're not going to get there, statistically.
05:22No, I know that.
05:23But that's what.
05:24Division I seniors.
05:25Right.
05:26And there's a very small.
05:27Right.
05:27There's 200, 150 rookies, make it.
05:31Right.
05:32But even when we talk to.
05:33Out of 17,000 in one year.
05:35Even when we talk to Billy O, what's
05:36one of the biggest recruiting tools that he tries to use?
05:40How his staff is NFL connected.
05:43And I get Rob's, what he's saying is that it's 1%.
05:47But every kid believes they're going to be that potted at 1%.
05:50There's a kid that's going to make $200,000, $300,000,
05:53$400,000, not make it in the NFL,
05:56have to rely on the, what, $200,000 that he made.
05:58And probably at 18, 19, 20, isn't the smartest
06:01with his money.
06:02We see NFL players that are in the club buying $20,000 rounds.
06:06Like, it's not smart.
06:07And then you're going to, what, go and get a job
06:09for your first job and make $50,000?
06:11And also, we have.
06:12It's going to have a lot more mental issues.
06:14We're going to have a lot more mental health problems
06:16than we already have.
06:16Because all these kids are going to be depressed.
06:18I didn't make it.
06:19I had a glimpse of what it was.
06:21And then I have nothing.
06:22It's going to be a problem.
06:23We've been told forever how stingy Bill is.
06:27Is Bill going to be willing to part with $10 million?
06:31It's not his money.
06:33But does he get the concept of giving an 18-year-old $10
06:39million has got to be, if Bill is what he.
06:42Well, if he's in Carolina.
06:43Or $2 million, whatever.
06:45He's not going to coach in college.
06:47He's not.
06:47Nick Stamon is his best friend.
06:49And he just ran away from it.
06:51This is like a warm-up.
06:52He's not coaching.
06:54I wouldn't assume.
06:55I would think that, what is he, 16 wins away from an old friend?
06:5814.
06:5914.
06:59Billy-O had that number on the top of his head.
07:01I don't know.
07:0214, 15, 16, whatever.
07:03It's like a 2007 season away.
07:07Craig, you're right, though.
07:08That would be the hottest thing, I
07:09think, for Bill, somebody who's coached Brady and some
07:13of the greatest players, to be like, all right,
07:15in order for us to get this kid, even if it is in North Carolina,
07:19we got to give this kid, what?
07:21A million bucks.
07:21Yeah, a million bucks.
07:22And it's like, and he's straight out of high school.
07:24Or a kid's coming from the transfer portal.
07:27And he was OK.
07:28Now we got to give him a million dollars.
07:30I think that would probably be the hottest.
07:32He would be snortling and snizzling
07:33the whole entire way through the process, believe me.
07:36There's something to going through hard times,
07:40progressing to try and make it, that gives you
07:43a certain mental toughness and the ability
07:45to go through college, do the right things, go in a class,
07:49being in the dorms, all those things.
07:51I mean, think about the military.
07:53You walk in, they shave your head.
07:54You go through camp, they give you a number.
07:56That's what it's supposed to be, because you're
07:58trying to lessen the individuality in a team sport.
08:03It's not an individual sport.
08:05So now that you're continuing to single out people and give them
08:09rewards for never doing a thing, they're
08:12going to walk in the building expecting
08:14things handed to them.
08:16That's not football.
08:17Football is a team sport that guys need to work together.
08:20And the great teams are good, and they're united,
08:23and they do stuff for each other.
08:25I just feel like you're making it more of an individual sport,
08:28and it doesn't work.
08:28It doesn't work that way.
08:29This isn't tennis.
08:30It's not something that it's not bowling, where it's all you.
08:33Yeah.
08:33You know what I'm saying?
08:34And I love bowling, because I'm on a bowling club.
08:36Oh.
08:37Oh, jeez.
08:38You want a plug for the?
08:40You know, the North Adobe, that's just plus 40.
08:43Over 40 bowling?
08:45It's over 40, yeah.
08:46Does it get very competitive?
08:47No, not really.
08:49The beer drinking does.
08:50From sacking Russell Wilson in the fourth quarter of Super Bowl
08:5349 to an over 40 bowling league.
08:55To a dad's bowling league.
08:56Hey, 41 soon.
08:57Oh, wow.
08:58Do you own your own bowling shoes, though?
09:00No, I don't.
09:01That's when you're legit.
09:02Yeah, I don't.
09:02I have my ball, though.
09:03I got my ball.
09:04That and a little glove?
09:05Yeah.
09:06Now, listen, I know you were frustrated listening
09:10to the show Monday when we were.
09:11I get frustrated with the negativity.
09:14But you turn on any radio show, and it's like,
09:16bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh.
09:17Right.
09:17You didn't like whoever was nose breathing during the males.
09:20There was a serious whistle.
09:22It was a serious whistle.
09:23I was sick.
09:23I've been sick.
09:25Who's eating the orange Lifesaver?
09:27Courtney and I.
09:28Yeah, they're delicious.
09:29That's weird.
09:30Putting that aside.
09:31You can't have a mint and orange juice.
09:32It doesn't work.
09:33It's like brushing your teeth, and then having orange juice.
09:35It's not as minty.
09:35It's just more orange.
09:36It doesn't work.
09:37Putting that aside, your thoughts
09:39on Mayo and his first year as a?
09:42Listen, I said this to start the whole year out.
09:45In the offseason, we have to have patience,
09:47and we have to have an understanding
09:49that when you walk into a building that had Bill
09:52Belichick as the head coach for years and years and years.
09:55So imagine, for me, I think about we're
09:57in a Ferrari dealership.
09:59You buy a Ferrari.
10:01Somebody else is driving that Ferrari for 20 years.
10:05You want to take it around the block a little bit.
10:07You want to feel a Ferrari.
10:10I feel like this first year, there's a learning curve here.
10:13There's people in different positions.
10:15There's a team that we already knew offensive line was
10:18kind of an issue.
10:19Receiver, they didn't have a true number one.
10:21Biggest question mark was what?
10:23Quarterback.
10:24That's why they had a hard time landing OCs,
10:26because an OC would walk in the door and say,
10:28well, I don't have a number one.
10:29I don't have a quarterback, and I don't have an offensive line.
10:32How am I supposed to put together an offense?
10:35So they go out.
10:36They get Drake in the three overall.
10:39He looks great.
10:40He's going to be the future.
10:41Very good game this past week.
10:43Now, would I have attempted a 68 yard field goal in 30 degree
10:48weather?
10:49I don't know.
10:49I would have maybe thrown it up.
10:50I don't know.
10:51But I would have tried.
10:52I don't know.
10:53But maybe I would have, if Sly was hitting 70s,
10:56maybe I say, give it a shot.
10:58I don't know.
10:58The dude's jacked up.
10:59He's like, he looks like a little elf.
11:00He's literally.
11:01I'm kidding.
11:02He was literally two yards.
11:03He was two yards away.
11:04So if it's September, he makes it.
11:07He breaks the all time record.
11:09Breaks it, because he can kick the heck out of the ball.
11:11I've seen him.
11:12Dude, when you walk in the locker room, you see that guy.
11:13You're like, why is that dude so jacked?
11:15And he's the kicker.
11:16So anyway, I think that Mayo's first year,
11:20there's an overreaction.
11:21And in the last 20 years, the media
11:24would ask Bill a question.
11:25He'd say, I'm preparing for next week.
11:29We're on to Cincinnati, blah, blah, blah.
11:31Now you have a guy that comes in, and he's like, yeah,
11:33this isn't what this is.
11:34We need to be better, and starts to elaborate on things.
11:38And then everyone's dissecting stuff down.
11:39Because, oh, well, Mayo says the team is soft.
11:42It's like, yeah, if you can't stop the run,
11:44and you can't run the football, and you can't cover kicks,
11:47football terminology, you're soft.
11:49But then why back off it?
11:51He said that he was trying to make
11:54it seem as the mentality is soft.
11:56The players, he knows that they can play better
11:59football and tougher football.
12:01But in that particular game, they
12:03were soft, which, as a football player, and me and Wiggy
12:05are on the field together.
12:06And I look at him and say, dude, that's soft.
12:08Step it up.
12:09When you're a football player, you
12:11talk to guys a different way.
12:12Players don't take it as like, oh, I'm so soft.
12:15I can't play this game.
12:17No, I know I can do that.
12:18That was not good enough.
12:19Set the damn edge.
12:21Do it.
12:21Do it.
12:21I've seen you do it.
12:22Show me.
12:23Can today's players take that?
12:25I think so.
12:26So I also think that there's a little bit
12:29of an over-exaggeration on this whole the generation is soft.
12:33I've seen plenty of kids that are tough as nails,
12:37that the parents, I mean, my kids,
12:40if Everett falls down, I'll just get up.
12:43I'm not like, oh, my baby, are you OK?
12:46I'm a little hard on my sons.
12:47But that's just the way it is.
12:48That's the way I was raised.
12:49So they're not going to be soft.
12:52I think the way that we might view the game because
12:55the rule changes or the practice.
12:58So people, it's soft.
12:59But if you're talking about a guy who, you know, I, listen,
13:05one of my award-winning leads was
13:06I was showing what coaches are in the first year
13:09and how there's going to be a lot of struggles.
13:11I'm on the bus of like, let's give Mayo obviously
13:14another year because it's very difficult.
13:15Greg is the guy you need to be talking to because he
13:18wants him fired yesterday.
13:20Listen, if you go and make that move,
13:23you take two steps back.
13:25You go backwards.
13:27You go backwards.
13:28And then you're a joke.
13:29If you fired Mayo in the first year,
13:31you're a team that has, you're like, oh,
13:33you don't know what you want.
13:35Mayo has been here a long, he's been here his whole career.
13:38He was a great football player.
13:39He understands the game.
13:41He understands the younger football player.
13:43So you need to be able to have a roster
13:45and build maybe even your coaching.
13:48Like, your roster and your staff still isn't established.
13:52There's still going to be movement.
13:54It's like just the way it is.
13:55I think he's done a good job.
13:57I mean, with the offensive line, now there's
14:01some times where I would be a little more aggressive.
14:03I mean, my mentality is a little bit,
14:06I mean, I'd probably be fired in the first two weeks
14:09because I'd go for it on fourth and one at midfield.
14:11Like, that's just the way I've been.
14:13It's an offensive mentality.
14:15You know, I'm just like, you've got to go for it.
14:17If it's a turnover and you're at midfield,
14:19my first play is a shot.
14:23I'm trying to take a shot.
14:24Like, my best play to beat you, I'm taking it right there.
14:27Because if you make it, game's over.
14:29But Shyam would call that coaching scared.
14:31Like, Shyam.
14:32No, it's because right now, too, you have all these analytics
14:35and you've got guys on the computers that are, well,
14:37if you run the ball and you burn five minutes off the clock,
14:39it reduces their opportunity to drive the ball 18 plays
14:43or whatever they did.
14:44Like, there's also a part of it that
14:46should just be like a gunslinging mentality, which
14:48would probably get me fired.
14:49And, you know, look at Detroit.
14:53Like, last year in the playoffs, didn't they go for it
14:56in their own territory and they didn't make it
14:58and everyone was, like, going crazy?
15:00Happened last night.
15:01I didn't watch the game last night.
15:03Yeah.
15:03So, like, he is opposite of kind of the traditional, well,
15:08you should punt this away.
15:09He's like, nah, screw it.
15:10We're going to go for it.
15:10Yeah.
15:11All right, Rob Ninkovich is here.
15:13Round of applause for Rob.
15:16But everyone needs to relax, by the way.
15:17I'm sorry about Mayo.
15:18Relax?
15:20Talk to that guy.
15:20Look at Greg.
15:21You can't.
15:22Greg, Greg, you're the guy.
15:24And listen, it's your opinion.
15:25Stand on business.
15:26I'm allowed to have an opinion.
15:27No, that's what I'm saying.
15:28I know why Ninkovich is talking about Mayo the way
15:33he is, because he wants a job.
15:36I don't know why you are.
15:38Because I look at it.
15:39I could be in Denver right now with him.
15:41It looks pretty good.
15:41All right.
15:42But I didn't go there.
15:42I always see you.
15:43What, you had a job offer in Denver?
15:44Mm-hmm.
15:45Outside linebackers.
15:46But I didn't want to move my family.
15:47Was that a make good by Peyton, because he screwed up so bad?
15:50Maybe.
15:51Maybe.
15:51But Greg, he's a great coach, too, though.
15:52Yeah.
15:53The only reason why I look at it is like,
15:54I always give a first year coach, whoever it is, a pass.
15:58Because it's really, and most guys
16:03that are first time head coaches, obviously,
16:05it's their first time doing it.
16:07You've got to give them a pass to kind of.
16:09What was Campbell's record his first year?
16:113 and?
16:113 wins.
16:123 and 13 and 1.
16:13You win.
16:13How many wins they have this year?
16:15Yeah, they are 11 and 1, or something like that.
16:17No, I'm saying for the Patriots.
16:18They have 3?
16:19Oh, yeah.
16:19They might be similar.
16:20Yeah.
16:20Yeah, well, that's what I always bring up.
16:21Belichick in his first year, he had 6 wins.
16:24Andy Reid had 5 wins.
16:27Kyle Shanahan had like 4 wins.
16:30I think with Mayo, he's going to, after the season,
16:34he's going to go, what do I need to do differently?
16:39And that's everything.
16:40How I handle the media players, and then he's
16:42going to learn.
16:43If this is something we see next year, Greg,
16:45then I might start to say, all right, you might be right.
16:48It might be time for him to go, because he can't.
16:51We are also over-influenced by our phones,
16:53and things that hit you in the eyeballs every single day.
16:56Back when they were coaching, you
16:58had to pick up a newspaper and read it,
17:01or listen to it on the radio.
17:03Yeah.
17:03All right.
17:04We got.