" 26 Aini Tarmeem Ke Waqt Maulana Fazal-ur-Rehman Ko Kaha Tha Ke Hukoomat Dhoka Day Gi " Hamid Raza
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00:00Earlier, there was a clear position that your party, I am talking about Tehreek-e-Insaaf because you are very close to it,
00:06wants to talk only to Muktadira, to the establishment.
00:10So, should we consider this as a shift in position, that you can be a political entity,
00:15on the other hand, you can be a political nominee, with whom you are talking.
00:18Now, you are ready to talk to PMLN, People's Party. Is this my fair assessment?
00:25Earlier, we used to say that those who have the power, they should be interviewed.
00:32During this time, the government, for the last 4-5 months, has been creating a ruckus,
00:38that we have the power, everything is happening as per our will,
00:42there were protests on TV, there were statements,
00:45everyone was proving themselves as Aristotle, as Sultan Rai, so let's go.
00:52We are ready to give them the chance now.
00:54They have to show their authority, they have to prove their authority,
00:57that yes, they do have the authority.
00:59If the government says that it can't make a judicial commission,
01:02then our narrative wins.
01:04We used to say that this government doesn't have the capacity.
01:07The power is somewhere else.
01:09But the narrative of the government also won.
01:11You were saying that we are talking to politicians,
01:14now you are saying that we make a political committee, we talk to the government.
01:17In between, you have brought that too.
01:19So, the narrative of the government has also won.
01:21Let me tell you one thing,
01:23the committee, out of the 5 candidates, 4 of them did not meet Mr. Khan.
01:29Mr. Asad Kaisar could not come because he did not have bail.
01:33After that, Mr. Umar Ayub was arrested.
01:35The day the committee was formed, 2-3 hours after that.
01:38After that, Mr. Umar Ayub came back yesterday.
01:40My case was in Faisalabad.
01:41Today, I was charged with an individual case.
01:43So, Mr. Khan has given all the direction to Mr. Umar Ayub.
01:47Now, Mr. Umar Ayub has to brief us.
01:49Now, I am moving back towards Islamabad.
01:51We are hoping that tomorrow at some time,
01:54if all the coordination is done by night,
01:57then we will sit and settle all these things.
01:59Then, any one of us will be able to pass a comment
02:03that what are the exact directions of Mr. Khan to Mr. Umar Ayub
02:08and how we have to negotiate on which grounds.
02:12So, I guess we should wait till tomorrow.
02:14Okay, you must be seeing the political activities in Maulana Fazl Rehman's house.
02:18Mr. Rana Sanaullah, Mr. Bilawal Bhutto,
02:23and the Prime Minister of the government call him.
02:25We have not seen any engagement of Tariq-e-Insaaf at least on the mainstream in these days.
02:32Maulana is upset with the government.
02:34This is the best opportunity to form an alliance and involve them in a movement.
02:39We are not seeing your Jamaat as active as it was earlier.
02:42Inshallah, they will come.
02:44They will come soon.
02:46This is not a problem.
02:47The problem is that when the 26th amendment was passed,
02:52the government had made a commitment to Maulana Saab regarding Madaras Reforms.
02:57We had told Maulana Saab that he will deceive us.
03:02How many times will you want to be deceived by a deceiver?
03:05And the government has proved with its Act that they have deceived JUIF and Maulana Fazl Rehman.
03:10So, now they are going there to beg for mercy.
03:14I think the deadline of 8th August has been given.
03:17If it is not done by then, they are also coming to Islamabad.
03:20I am saying that your goals are very aligned.
03:23You are upset, Maulana Saab is upset.
03:25They talk about coming to Islamabad.
03:27You talk about civil disobedience.
03:29So, I can't see that in between.
03:31That's why I asked you.
03:32Everyone is going.
03:33You are not visible there.
03:35Hopefully, in a day or two.
03:37We have seen that the situation has developed after 24th.
03:40We are still stuck in it.
03:43There are different FIRs.
03:45There is a rest bail.
03:47Then there are Omni bails.
03:49There are some trials.
03:51Inshallah, you will see everything in the next 24-48 hours.
03:56Faisal Wawda Saab is also talking.
03:58Then we are guessing from the statements of the government people.
04:01Talk to the interlocutors.
04:03Do you think that Shibaz Saab and some fight or some distance is going on?
04:08Do you think that the same page is a little weak?
04:12Or is it the same?
04:14Shibaz Sharif, Bilawal and the same page.
04:17Do you think it is intact?
04:19Or is there a problem in it?
04:21What can I say about Faisal Wawda?
04:24He is a non-serious person.
04:26We consider him a messenger.
04:28That's why we quote him.
04:30We consider him a messenger.
04:32No, no.
04:33What is that messenger?
04:35I think that the qualities that have been given in terms of service,
04:40in terms of obedience,
04:42in terms of boot-polishing,
04:44by the Prime Minister,
04:46no politician in Pakistan can reach that.
04:48I don't think so.
04:50They will set a new example of obedience.
04:52I don't think so.
04:54Faisal Wawda Saab may have been given something.
04:58Or he must have made a hobby himself.
05:00He met a few people and brought himself into the media.
05:05I wanted to talk about his message more than his personality.
05:09Do you feel that way?
05:11People's Party is also saying that if PTI talks to us,
05:14then we can see.
05:16Is there any collaboration in the future?
05:19If we have to talk,
05:21then the mandate of PTI is with Imran Khan.
05:24If we feel the need, then we will do it ourselves.
05:26We don't need Wawda Saab for that.
05:28Thank you very much.
05:30Thank you very much.
06:00We will talk to the politicians.
06:02There are a lot of questions.
06:04We will see in the coming days.
06:06There will be clarity.